© Beth Spencer


Uploaded: April 07, 2014


Canon 7D, Tamron 18-270mm lens, 1/125, f/7.1, ISO 250,

Exif: F Number: 7.1, Exposure Bias Value: -0.67, ExposureTime: 1/125 seconds, Flash: did not fire, compulsory flash mode, ISO: 250, White balance: Auto white balance, FocalLength: 18.00 mm, Model: Canon EOS 7D


Beth Spencer April 07, 2014

Sunset in Tucker County, I shot from a low position and I think it is straight, but it is on the side of the hill, not sure how to fix it or just leave it?
Here is another view but horizontal. Any suggestions? #1569354

Dale Hardin April 07, 2014

Beth, I think both are fine level wise and composition wise.

However, even though this was sunset, the colors do not appear correct. The objects in the scene would certainly be affected by the low sun, but the sky does not reflect that light and is the give away.

I'd suggest, using these images as your source, apply a levels adjustment layer and lower the white slider on the green channel to about 230. This should give you an indication of where I believe the color should be. #11019555

Anthony L. Mancuso April 08, 2014

I agree with Dale about the color being off but I would address the issue by adjusting the temperature and tint sliders in ACR. Start by using the eyedropper tool and clicking on a a white area like the snow or clouds and tweak to your taste from there. #11019944

Dale Hardin April 08, 2014

I agree with Tony's method. I just wanted a reference so you could see where I thought you'd see the desired result.

The problem is, that in this case the snow is not white, so we as a viewer have no way of knowing how much to correct the WB. #11019987

Debbie E. Payne April 08, 2014

I agree with Tony on the method. Dale, are you suggesting that there should be less pink and lavender in the snow? Beth, if you try adjusting the luminance slider to the right for both the magenta and the blue in the Hue/Sat Sliders, it might seem less colored and more light.

I think you live in a great place for sunsets. These are awesome. #11020139

Dale Hardin April 08, 2014

Debbie, I agreed with Tony's method also but my aim was to show an easy way for her to see what I'd envisioned.

Yes, I was interested in less pink and lavender in the snow but not a loss of it. Using the hue/saturation method reduces the deep blue of the sky, so didn't go that way. #11020144

Beth Spencer April 08, 2014

Dale, you are right, there was too much of the pink and lavender in the sky. I used suggestions from you, Debbie and Tony and redid it. I think I am closer to what is should be. Then I thought about putting the before and after together and masking out what I didn't like but that didn't come close to looking right.
So let me know what you think of the edits. #11020172

Dale Hardin April 08, 2014

The vertical looks very good, Beth. On the horizontal, the colors look good but you've lost lot of details in the shadows. I've sent you an email that shows what my suggestion would have looked like. #11020205

Jeff E Jensen April 08, 2014

Please stop posting pictures of snow. The end. :o) #11020241

Stephen Shoff April 08, 2014

Your edits went a long ways in dealing with the color cast, and I won't get involved in that conversation.

Your last post also came out way over sharpened. I suppose BP did that to you.

As to your question about the verticals, I'll refine my opinion from Dale's. Yes, the "verticals are straight", but it seems pretty clear that you were shooting uphill, probably somewhat wide angle. So you have a lot of convergence as evidenced by the trees along the border. Whether or not you correct that is often a matter of personal preference. For me, that is something I almost always correct. The way you fix it in Photoshop is under the Edit/transform menu with the "distort" option. You can "grab" each corner and shift them out and up or down until your reference lines, like the tree trunks, align with a grid. You can also stretch the image in either direction to correct proportions. In doing so, though, you often lose a large portion of the image, and that would be true in this case.

There are also controls on the camera adjustments tab in ACR (where you can set the lens used for automatic lens distortion correction and remove chromatic aberration) but I find them harder to use and less flexible than the CS6 controls.

In this image, I don't think you can correct it because there isn't enough room in the frame and you will lose the tops of the trees and the tree trunks will be right up against the edge of the image. #11020246

Beth Spencer April 09, 2014

Dale, Thanks I redid it and used your suggestions and do like it better. Stephen, you are right about trying to correct the convergence. I tried and did lose half the trees and the one crooked one on the left stayed crooked!
Jefgf, As soon as we get rid of all snow I will quit posting snow pictures!! Just make the snow stop!! #11020365

Anthony L. Mancuso April 09, 2014

The edits look great Beth, but I have to say I strongly agree with Jeff's recommendation. I just raked leaves around the last foothold the snow had on my yard the other and it has finally succumbed to the above freezing temps today...I have no desire to see anymore of the stuff til Santa is due around again! #11020373

Dale Hardin April 09, 2014

It was 97 degrees here yesterday. Sorry. :o) #11020430

Michael Kelly level-deluxe April 09, 2014

Nothing left here to say but nice job getting the problems sorted out. The last edits look great. #11020469

Elaine Hessler April 10, 2014

Beautiful edits! I don't mind the converging trees at all-I like how they draw your eyes up to the tippy top. Beautiful colors and nice job on the tricky edits. WB can be a toughie.

How long ago was this shot? We just got rid of the last bit of snow-yeah! #11020991

Rita K. Connell level-classic April 10, 2014

no snow please.... we have had a couple days with sunshine and no rain. Yea!

I think you nailed the edit Beth they both look really great. I love the hint of the of the sunset behind the trees #11021063

Peter W. Marks April 10, 2014

Yes a beautiful sky is a beauitiful sky Beth, and I partcularly like the edits. #11021236

Teresa H. Hunt April 11, 2014

Beautiful Beth!! #11021833

Beth Spencer April 13, 2014

Thanks everyone! I am done with the snow for now! It actually got up to 70 today! I think it is the hottest it has been this year! I am hoping for more days like it!

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