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Ash's High Jump

© Beth Spencer

Ash's High Jump

Uploaded: March 17, 2014

Description

Canon 7D, Tamron 18-270mm lens, 1/250, f/25 ISO 500,

Exif: F Number: 25, Exposure Bias Value: -0.67, ExposureTime: 1/250 seconds, Flash: did not fire, compulsory flash mode, ISO: 500, White balance: Auto white balance, FocalLength: 30.00 mm, Model: Canon EOS 7D

Comments

Kristin Duff March 19, 2014

how much fun is this! Is Ash your son? #1567314

Dale Hardin March 19, 2014

OOB images are fun aren't they, Beth? I like how you used a gradient on the background.

I do think this would have more effective if you'd used the correct perspective so that it appeared as if he was jumping out of a photograph. A drop shadow would add interest also. #11004222

Stephen Shoff March 19, 2014

I'll echo Kristin...what fun. I like how you matched the twist in his body with the twist in the frame. They complement each other, add tension, reinforce directionality. I don't think I would ever see that opportunity. #11004245

Jeff E Jensen March 20, 2014

Very cool, Beth! I've never tried this, but need to some day. #11004459

Beth Spencer March 20, 2014

Thanks Kristin, this is my middle grandson! We had a fun day! I was having him jump off things and shooting from below to make him look like he was jumping really high!
Stephen, I stated with trying to get a picture I thought would work. Jeff, there is a guided edit in elements 12 that walks you through this, so it was actually easy, I think I could do this if I had good directions, at least the layers are saved when you do it this way!
Dale can you explain more of what perspective I should have made and does the frame or his arm get the drop shadow? #11004825

Dale Hardin March 20, 2014

Beth, I'll send an email with a sample that makes it easier to explain. #11004867

Peter W. Marks March 21, 2014

I'm impressed too Beth. I receive the Elements Techniques magazine and I seem to remember this technique being explained in some issue quite recently but have never got around to making a suitable image to try it and like Stephen says would probably not have the imagination to portray the frame like you have.
And as usual I understand what Dale is saying but totally and completely disagree with his assertion that there has to be a "correct perspective" to make this a "more effective". It is every bit as effective as an image of Ash and of course it has a unusual background and probably has achieved exactly what Beth set out to do and that is to make us smile, make us think "how did she do that" and perhaps even feel how blessed she is to have a handsome young grandson who isn't just sat indoors with his thumbs glued to an x-box. We know he isn't actually jumping out of a photo or a window or
off the Empire State building but this is what artists do,; they make us think and when we have thought in the most obvious and conventional manner they encourage us to think again and in our own minds explore other possibilities.
Perfectly rectangular boxes are wonderful for storing books and rectangular stuff in but if one wanted to store a stuffed giraffe then a very strangely shaped box might well be better suited. I think that is a long winded way of saying "Think out of the box".

But Dale I am sure we would like to see what you have in mind so perhaps with Beth's permission you will share your sample with us all. #11005201

Beth Spencer March 21, 2014

Thank you Peter! Dale shared his examples with me and maybe he can with the club! Thanks Dale! I will see if I can do any changes but may take a few days! It is the work thing this weekend! #11005209

Dale Hardin March 21, 2014

Here are the images I shared with Beth. I also explained that I understood a desire to "twist" the frame but that it didn't work mainly because of the perspective issue and lack of shadows to reinforce the effect.

Peter, I have many that are "outside" the box, but they are more difficult to achieve and I was simply trying to point out what was needed to do so. :o)

Truth be told, I'd be hurt if you stopped giving me a jab here and there. Love it. #11005253

Kristin Duff March 21, 2014

Peter and Dale- you crack me up! #11005401

Peter W. Marks March 21, 2014

Dale, I am not at all keen on your two images. To puts it mildly, they are a bit nasty..... Oh, but wait a moment, I think that is because I am scared of those long slithery things. So if I try hard, grit my teeth and ignore those then they are very nice images. :0)
ps I so wish I could come on the Phellos trip; we could have such fun in the bar while I drank my pints of beer and you and Fifi sipped your Shirley temples. #11005486

Kalena Randall March 21, 2014

Love the photo, Beth. I like the twist matching like Steohen talked about. I think I compliments nicely.

WTG! Cute grandson, too! #11005523

Michael Kelly level-deluxe March 22, 2014

Well I think it is a fun shot and a great example of OOB work especilly for your first try. This is a very rare exercise on my part so each time I do it I have to go back to the books to learn it over.

Because it is so obviously contrived I am not sure there can be an absolute right or worng way to portray it. Thus if you like it it is good to go even though it does bend the conventions a bit. #11006096

Beth Spencer March 22, 2014

I actually tried another one tonight, I think this is more what Dale had in mind! I do think the drop shadows really helped. Thanks for all the fun comments! #11006302

Rita K. Connell level-classic March 22, 2014

Beth how fun I have never tried this. I do think both of your edits work better. I think the perspective on the last ones looks really good Good job! #11006316

Dale Hardin March 22, 2014

I like what you've done, Beth. But the details are what sets an image apart.

Not only would the frame be smaller as it was farther away, so would the width of the frame. In this case, your frame is larger where it should be smaller. A small issue but one that spoils the effect.

The easiest way is to make your frame on it's own layer and THEN apply the perspective distortion. #11006374

Jeff E Jensen March 23, 2014

I'm sorry Dale, is there a rule book about these?Who says the frame should be smaller? Isn't Beth the artist? Doesn't she get to make these decisions? :o) #11006651

Dale Hardin March 23, 2014

Jeff, I'm not saying she should make the frame smaller. I'm saying that if she is using perspective in the rendition, then that perspective is not correct if the foreground border of that frame is smaller than the background border.

I'm sure she wants the OOB to look real and if the eye detects unnatural dimensions then her vision is not realistic and doesn't hold the impact it deserves. #11006659

Peter W. Marks March 23, 2014

Dale, judging by the smiley-face I am thinking our Jeff is just paraphrasing (and taking the mickey) out of what I prattle on about regarding 'artist's intentions' lol

But now, as for Beth' revised image and your further critique it would perhaps be clearer if you had said the 'left hand end of the bottom border should appear wider than the right hand end for it to represent true single point perspective. Ah, life is such fun when a pixel-pedant meets a word-pedant!
#11006690

Elaine Hessler March 25, 2014

Hi Beth-sorry I am so late! I give you a lot of credit-I've never tried this before and it seems difficult. I think you did a good job on your second edit. It looks like he is coming out of the picture. These things are so hard to visualize. Dale posted some good examples. I'll keep my eye out in case you post another edit. Very fun shot! #11008310

Debbie E. Payne March 28, 2014

This was too cool, Beth. Such a unique image. I like the original but I also like your edit. I keep saying that I am going to try this one day. Now I have a few more pieces of the puzzle so I don't have any excuses anymore. #11010133

Beth Spencer March 30, 2014

Thanks everyone, I think this is all I am doing with this one. I am way behind, had a really busy week with work, so hope to catch up today! It is snowing to beat the band, probably 4 inches now! Would it Just Please Stop!! #11013013

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