Passing Through
Uploaded: March 17, 2013
Canon 7D, Tamron 18-270mm lens, 1/500, f/11, ISO400
Exif: F Number: 11, Exposure Bias Value: 0.67, ExposureTime: 1/500 seconds, Flash: did not fire, compulsory flash mode, ISO: 400, White balance: Auto white balance, FocalLength: 270.00 mm, Model: Canon EOS 7D
Stephen Shoff March 17, 2013
Can you upload a crop of just the left 2/3rds of the picture (the tree and the vertical cluster of birds) so that we can get a better sense of how sharp the picture is and adjustments that might help the birds stand out more against the busy background? That crop also might get you to a much more effective composition as well.Three problems with image quality as it stands:
-- the background is too busy and the birds too small a component for them to command the center of attention
-- can't tell if they are clear
-- looks to me like there is chromatic aberration showing up (green borders on the right side of verical contours, particularly on the left side of the image. Lens and chromatic aberration correction in ACR might resolve much of that. #1519655
Beth Spencer March 17, 2013
Stephen, I think I got the crop and took care of the chromatic aberration. I shot this hanging out a window in the house, these guys were so skittish. The least amount of noise and they were gone. It felt like the movie The Birds, so background is busy but don't know what else to do with it. #10613732Dale Hardin March 17, 2013
Beth, there are a few ways you can effect your background on this shot and make the birds stand out more.Luckily the birds are solid black so selecting them is a breeze. Just use the magic wand tool set to contiguous and click on each one in turn while holding down the shift key. Then control + J to place them on another layer.
You can now apply a screen blend on the background at maybe 50% opacity or whatever it takes. You could also apply a blur to the background and mask out the foreground trees. #10613783
Stephen Shoff March 17, 2013
That's an impressive capture, Beth. thank you for allowing us to see it in better detail. I'm starting to learn that that may be one of the disadvantages of having to work in these browser windowsized views -- small elements lose their impact.Good job on correcting the lens defects, too. I'm sure Dale's suggestions will make make a difference. But the big thing to recognize is that now that you have the birds isolated from the background, you can do anything you want to either layer. As Dale said, you can make whatever generalized and/or localized changes to your background layer you want. But you can also make any change you want to the foreground layer that contains only the birds. I tend set adjustment layers to my foreground layer to clipping masks. I also group the foreground/background sets of layers in separate groups so I can tun them on and off as a set.
I like the composition of the original post. Since you see the entire flock and there are some birds trailing behind paired with the horizontal aspect ratio, you get the strong sense of movement from right to left of the birds flying through the trees. The downside that I see is that the birds end up pretty small, lose contrast with the background, and weaken their subject matter impact. I think the cropped image may be a stronger composition and hold one's attention better.
On the original, you might think about cloning out the one bird only halfway into the frame on the lower right border.
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Jeff E Jensen March 18, 2013
Well, you've gotten some good suggestions from the phellas. #10614906Elaine Hessler March 18, 2013
Where do you live Beth? These look like red winged blackbirds. We get these in the summer.I think this could be really neat after you fix the background. I am hoping their wing markings will really stand out once you do your edits.
I do think this has potential! #10614943
Debbie E. Payne March 18, 2013
We learn something new every time someone posts something. I never knew I could do that with the magic layer tool. Now I need to try something like it on my own. NO TIME FOR HOUSEWORK...I love that you have so much wildlife in your backyard, and I can hardly wait to see what you come up with on this one. #10614958
Beth Spencer March 18, 2013
Dale I didn't know that about the magic wand, thanks that was a big help. I tried to do the edits you suggested on one, but it didn't look quite right so I added a texture layer to it and I like it better.Dale Hardin March 18, 2013
Beth, the reason it didn't look right is because the change is too severe, and you didn't mask out the foreground. Those two things combined, make it look manipulated. Moderation is the key. #10615091Beth Spencer March 18, 2013
Can you send me a tutorial because now I am confused. thanks #10615099Stephen Shoff March 18, 2013
Sorry to confuse you Beth. So far nothing has been suggested that would use a clipping mask. That was just additional info about the flexibility you get when you've managed to separate elements of a composition into separate layers.I like your texture. I do think, though, that when you get Dale's suggestions worked out, you may not need it anymore. Then it becomes a option and something you can chose to do as part of your creativity rather than use it as salvage mechanism.
I think this is a great image that deserves all the effort you are putting into it. #10615156
Elaine Hessler March 19, 2013
I prefer the first one-good job on it! But I feel it is still a tad dark. Maybe if you brighten it up w screen like Dale suggested, it would set off the black birds more. Does anyone know if a levels adjustment would help here?I'm learning right along with you Beth! #10615265
Peter W. Marks March 19, 2013
We too are blessed with red-wing blackbirds although currently only a few have shown up. I can't add anything to what has been suggested by the others, Beth, so will just sit back and enjoy the view. Well done. #10615689Brandi K. Mills March 21, 2013
I really like edit one with Dale's suggestions! #10618919Beth Spencer March 21, 2013
Last 2 edits on these, I did them following a tutorial Dale sent, one with added snow one with out. Thanks Dale!Stephen Shoff March 21, 2013
Looks like good work on trying to follow Dale's edits.My comments:
-- I'm glad you were able to bring back the color in the blackbird's wings, but,
-- I think the selection method you used in Edit One was better than the method you used in Edit 3. In Edit 3, there is a white outline around most of the birds. But there are also a number of edits that can create that unintended effect so I don't know for sure where they came from.
-- I can't see what Dale's "snow" is. Personally, if you think you need a texture, I like your original texture. I don't manage to use them often, and don't pretend to use them effectively, but I normally want a texture to make the picture look like it is a medium other than a photograph. That's what your original texture accomplished for me. The original texture might have been too heavy. You could back off on it a little. When I use textures, I merge all the layers into a single layer on top ( -- it looks to me like in reworking the edits per Dale's tutorial, you lost the chromatic aberration correction. I think the green fringe on the trees is back. Lots of work, lots of learning going into this one, Beth. Hope you're enjoying working this hard.
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Rita K. Connell March 22, 2013
Beth I love your edit three, I think your edit and crop is exactly what it needed. its awesome you weren't afraid to hang out the window....LOL some shot are just worth it. I like it...but I love bird shot anyway. #10619520Anthony L. Mancuso March 22, 2013
I get some red winged black birds around here too but I have never seen this many together at once..When I first saw this image it reminded me of one of those optical illusion shots with the shape of the birds doubling as spaces between the branches of the trees, if that makes any sense.. #10619634
Beth Spencer March 25, 2013
Thanks Stephen, Rita and Anthony. I got all behind again, imagine that and never answered. Today is the 25th of March and the snow continues probably a foot now and I am really sick of it. Anyway, the redwinged black birds are back in force today and running out the cardinals and everything else. I was thinking the cardinals should have more authority! (well from a Catholic standpoint I guess!) LOL #10623603Sign up for an interactive online photography course to get critiques on your photos.
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