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Erin I with Flash


 
  Erin I with Flash
Erin I with Flash
ISO 400, 26mm, f/9, 1/60 sec.

Elaine Hessler

 
  Erin I without Flash
Erin I without Flash

Elaine Hessler

 
  Erin II with Flash
Erin II with Flash

Elaine Hessler

 
  Erin II without Flash
Erin II without Flash

Elaine Hessler

 
  Diagram-BTW I used my SB 600
Diagram-BTW I used my SB 600

Elaine Hessler

 
 
 

Elaine Hessler
 

Hi-I FINALLY got these done and posted... I don't know which pose is best, so I've posted two poses, one with and one without the flash for the monthly challenge. The diagram is last. I held the flash off to the right and a bit above, I think...

This type of photography is very difficult for me and it is something I need to work on. Feel free to be very honest in your critiques so I can learn how to do this better.

Looking back at Mike's beautiful photos, I think I would use my telephoto lens (100-300mm) to give a nice DOF, but I don't know how that would work with the flash. I did try to open up the aperture, but everything was overexposed. Maybe I should have lowered the ISO to 100. Ugh it is so hard to think and take pics at the same time...


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October 25, 2013

 

Dale Hardin
  You did a wonderful job on both shots, Elaine. On the first shot, it is obvious that you changed your camera settings between the before and after, as noted by the ambient lighting.

The second series seems to have the same setting but with added fill flash.

As far as the DOF settings, it would be no different with or without the flash. And if you shoot in manual mode and set your exposure for how you want the ambient light to look, you can then set your flash to TTL and the subject will not change exposure regardless what you then do to change ambient light.


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October 25, 2013

 

Dale Hardin
  By the way, here something to look out for when doing this. On the second shot you placed the flash on the wrong side, thus creating conflicting shadows. You should place your fill light on the same side as the light source for your ambient light.


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October 25, 2013

 

Beth Spencer
  Elaine, I think you did wonderful! Erin is Beautiful!
I like the first one the best, the light looks the best to me. The second one with the flash, looks a bit bright to me.
I think you did great, I rarely use my flash, because I need to learn more about using it, but this exercise helped. I really struggle with using it on anything but an auto setting with the camera, but that might be a good winter project.


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October 25, 2013

 

Jeff E Jensen
  Yup, you did great!


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October 25, 2013

 

Peter W. Marks
  I'm with you Elaine on not getting my head around some of the concepts of doing stuff to images that I haven't seen when I first shot it. So well done! It is even worse now that I have this early stage dementia thing but I am just pleased that I get great pleasure in shooting what I do see and don't care too much about what perhaps I might have seen.
By the way, and this will get old Dale going- didn't you see that cigarette butt back there by the last fence post? lol


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October 26, 2013

 
- Michael Kelly

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  These are great and show off the fill light capability well. I like them both and such a wonderful model.


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October 26, 2013

 

Susan Williams
  Wow, this is a great example of proper lighting for outdoor portrait work. It takes a little extra work and patience, but the results are worth it. Erin is a lovely young lady, Elaine, and I love the setting you chose for these shots. Beautiful work!


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October 26, 2013

 

Susan Williams
  Wow, this is a great example of proper lighting for outdoor portrait work. It takes a little extra work and patience, but the results are worth it. Erin is a lovely young lady, Elaine, and I love the setting you chose for these shots. Beautiful work!


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October 26, 2013

 

Elaine Hessler
  Yep Dale-I believe you are right about that ambient light and the change in settings... I don't get your statement, "And if you shoot in manual mode and set your exposure for how you want the ambient light to look, you can then set your flash to TTL and the subject will not change exposure regardless what you then do to change ambient light." My flash is of camera on manual, so it isn't TTL, right? But I get what you mean about measuring for ambient light using aperture. But if Erin still is overexposed, changing the shutter speed won't work, will it? So I then have to go back to aperture, right?

Peter-I didn't see the butt-where is it??? Ugh.

Thanks everyone for the comments!!!


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October 28, 2013

 

Dale Hardin
  Elaine, what I meant was that if the flash is on TTL then the light on you subject is always going to be correct.

So if you want the ambient to be darker, or lighter, all you have to do is change the shutter speed, and/or aperture on the manual settings of your camera. The light on your subject will stay the same because of the flash TTL.


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October 28, 2013

 

Elaine Hessler
  Hmmm. Maybe I am not remembering what I read, but I thought ambient light is controlled through aperture only. I have to go back and read because I thought the shutter speed is limited to less than 1/250 sec. due to the curtain getting in the way. I see that my shutter speed was 1/60 sec., so I could have decreased the shutter speed. For some reason, I thought the shutter speed was less flexible.

Gotta go back and read-again...


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October 28, 2013

 

Dale Hardin
  You only have to be concerned with shutter speed limits when attempting High speed sync, which in this case was probably not necessary. But even so, slowing the shutter speed would brighten up the ambient light and using aperture or ISO could be used to darken the ambient. Any of which would not effect the flash TTL.


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October 28, 2013

 
- Rita K. Connell

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  Elaine, great job...both are very nicely done. I really like the second one she looks more relaxed. I think you did a great job with the flash


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October 29, 2013

 
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