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Hand in Hand

© John H. Siskin

Hand in Hand

Uploaded: April 09, 2008

Description

This image was done with film in camera. There is no print manipulation.

Comments

Chris N. Sweet April 09, 2008

Great shot, I am assuming it is a double exposure of some desciption? Either way its a magnificent shot. #897278

John H. Siskin April 09, 2008

Hi Chris,
Yes it is a double exposure, however that doesn’t explain the glow around the images. I would be surprised if anyone here at BP could figure out the particular technique that I used in this shot.
Thanks! John Siskin
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Chris N. Sweet April 09, 2008

I dont suppose you did a bit of "painting with light" did you? #5767561

John H. Siskin April 09, 2008

Hi Chris,
Not in camera, John Siskin #5767572

Lisa J. Boulden level-classic April 13, 2008

Having a little time on your hands???
(Sorry, couldn't resist.)
Really a cool image!
~Lisa
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M.Christine Duncan April 13, 2008

So, just to be clear, you didn't add or subtract anything in the darkroom? Or while you were shooting...? #5783948

John H. Siskin April 13, 2008

Hi Christine,
I said that I didn’t do anything while printing, nor in camera. This relates to the glow, of course. Nor did I do this digitally. I did not say I didn’t do anything in the darkroom. And of course figuring out where is not as important as figuring out what, or perhaps most critically how. Thanks, John Siskin
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Laura E. Swan level-classic April 13, 2008

White "Spray Paint?" (That's my guess)

Ooo! I love guessing games! Do we win a Corvette? (OK OK, I'll settle for a toy Corvette. But I want it in white. Red interior.) -Laura Swan ~DRU~ #5784248

Dianna Hauf April 13, 2008

Hmmm, does it have to do with the processing chemicals, dealing with the emulsions in particular? I am a CDA and when dealing with taking dental xrays I can 'accidently' achieve this effect when processing dental films. ???? #5784294

Dianna Hauf April 13, 2008

BTW, GREAT abstract B&W image!!!! #5784296

John H. Siskin April 14, 2008

It did take place during film processing, but this is a controlled process. The glow only goes where I want it to. Please note that I am including a picture of a model car, sorry not a Covette #5784567

M.Christine Duncan April 14, 2008

In highschool, we did alot of dodging and burning in the darkroom.... similar effect? I'm out of guesses. lol
~DRU #5785430

Aimee C. Eisaman April 14, 2008

Well I know nothing of film photography, but I do appreciate the skill required to creat images like this with film! I love the subject and the creation! Nice JOb! "DRU" #5785936

Laura E. Swan level-classic April 14, 2008

So....I guess Dianna....won the Ferrari...? (boo hoooooooooo!)

Er- I MEAN "A BIG CONGRATS ON THE WIN DIANNA K. SO WELL DESERVED"!

Hee hee! -Laura

P.S. I took photography in HS. too. It was so much fun! STINKY CHEMICALS but FUN! #5788364

John H. Siskin April 14, 2008

Hi Laura,
Nobody won, but I had the Ferrari sitting around on the website. It is not dodging or burning. Any more suggestions? The smell of a darkroom is a truly fine thing.
Thanks, John
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Steve M. Harrington April 14, 2008

Well, you have me intrigued and stumped, John. I had my own darkroom and played with solarization, but I could never achieve this kind of control of the light. Assuming this is a single neg, I can only guess that you chemically altered the whitened area. However, my gut tells me you used light as your tool. :)
Steve #5789189

John H. Siskin April 15, 2008

Hi Steve,
No print manipulation, here, so, no solarization on the print. That leaves one place for solarization. If you want to control solarization with a print, try this. Expose paper under enlarger as normal, place in developer for 1/2 to 2/3 normal time remove from developer and rinse in water, DO NOT USE STOP! Squeegee print. Nor you can re-expose using the enlarger or various penlight tools. Using cine-foil on the end of a penlight is particularly useful. All work can be done under safelight, which means that you can see what you are doing. There is very little change after exposure, the real change happens after you put the print back in the developer. For the second developer it is better to use a developer without hydroquinone. Thanks for your interest, but how did I do this if I didn’t use do it on the print?
Thanks, John Siskin
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Steve M. Harrington April 15, 2008

Unless you are introducing a red herring, which I feel fairly confident you are not, then you must have done something akin to solarization to the film. But how could you have such control, given that film requires total darkness? Is there something about infrared light that would be useful here?
Thanks for the explanation for prints, John. #5793212

John H. Siskin April 15, 2008

Hi Steve,
No red herring. C. E K. Mees, one of the top five important people in photography, introduced a pan-chromatic plate near the end of the 19th century. Before this film was insensitive to red light, so development was by inspection. Ortho chromatic film was quite common into the fifties. It is still available from Ilford, and perhaps Kodak. By using the Ilford stock, ISO 80, in 4X5, I was able to use a penlight to create a film solarization. I used a standard RED safelight. I was inspired by the solarizations of Man Ray. I don’t believe he used this method, but it is an interesting method.
Thanks, John Siskin
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Steve M. Harrington April 15, 2008

Fascinating. Thank you, John. Unfortunately, I no longer have a darkroom. I was always intrigued by solarization. I experimented with some B&W images from Mother Theresa's Home for the Destitute and Dying in Calcutta and now I can't locate them. Aargh! #5793309

John H. Siskin April 15, 2008

Try starting with a black and white image, and take it into PS, Return the B&W image to an RGB color space. Open curves and you get a diagonal line with bottom on the left. Pull the left side of the image up to the top and the middle of the curve a little more than midway to the bottom. This looks a little like a solarization. If you add small amounts of color to the image, before you manipulate the curve, the image can be more interesting. Thanks, John Siskin #5793331

Steve M. Harrington April 15, 2008

Got it! I learn something new every day! It sure does create a weird histogram. :) Thanks, John
Steve #5793527

John H. Siskin April 15, 2008

Hi Steve,
It’s not a solarization, but it is interesting. Thanks! John
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Samantha L. Dean April 17, 2008

Wow!! Totally impressed with the image and the knowledge required to create it!!! Awesome! #5800153

John H. Siskin April 17, 2008

Hi Samantha,
Part of what makes photography so compelling is the interesting ways in which ideas can be realized. I was inspired by the work of Man Ray in creating this image. I can only hope that my work will help to inspire others to push the envelope. Thanks, John Siskin
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John H. Siskin April 17, 2008

One more! #5800432

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