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Uploaded: November 16, 2007
Exif: F Number: 8, Exposure Bias Value: +0, Exposure Time: 1/60, Flash: flash fired, ISO: 100, White Balance: manual white balance, Focal Length: 50mm, Camera Model: NIKON D200
Fran Patterson November 19, 2007
I would love it if people would comment on photos more freely. I have made a few myself and they have not always been received so well. It seems people are very defensive at times. Is that why people are reluctant? I have learned this new word "lurkers" from sites like this, I am afraid we all do this too much. I would think the reason to post is to get criticisms so that we can improve. Any thoughts? #790342Sarah Lamb November 19, 2007
Hi Fran!I've been a little diappointed that people don't share more criticisms on this site. Obiously I wouldn't appreciate it if someone said all my stuff was garbage. But I know I have soooooo much to learn and sometimes another perspective is really appreciated. I know I'm not entering grand prize winners, and that's not really my goal-I want to learn & improve.
Personally, I have been really hesitant to post any sort of negative comment/criticism as nobody else does.
I've thought about adding something like "all comments & criticism welcome-no offense taken" on my photos so people might feel a little more free to comment? #5098589
Jodi M. Walsh November 19, 2007
i came across your discussion and thought I would just say that personally I feel like i'm the last person who should be giving criticism. i'm so new to this and I know what I like but don't really have the technical expertise to back it up.it would be nice though, if people were better about giving real critique. i've really appreciated the ones that i've had.
and as for this, I couldn't think of anything negative :-) I like the comp and the tones. it's a very emotional shot in my opinion #5099076
Holly J. Jackson November 20, 2007
I saw this when it was first posted and although I didn't leave a message, I did favorite it. It reminds me of the surgeon that operated on my son's heart when he was 18 mos old. He mentioned that as he proceeded, he cut the aeorta and everything kind of retracts. He is under very limited time to make the repair and put it all back together again. He always says a silent prayer and he has the feeling that his hands are guided by a higher power through the procedure. I think this is a beautiful image. I love the atmosphere you created with the lighting, too. The only thing it lacks is the details (aperture, shutter, ISO, lens, etc...) so that we all can learn from it. #5102305Fran Patterson November 20, 2007
See that's what I am talking about. I looke dat all your portfolios and there really is something to learn from everyone. Especially with all those little gold ovals all over the place. If we were all experts we wouldn't be posting pictures on this site, right? I'll include info next time, good point. Thanks for al the commentsLisa J. Boulden November 20, 2007
Hi Fran!Reynaldo D. Reyes November 23, 2007
Hi Fran.I share the same frustrations. In fact I've just posted a shot for some constructive critique but no bite yet. I guess people are hesitant to post some useful comments because they do not feel confident enough regarding a particular technique. With regards to your posted picture for example, I'm tempted to say that it possesses a lot of emotional impact but I feel that it is cropped too tightly and not enough lighting overall to make it stand out. Since I'm not a Portrait photographer I would really feel so uneasy to make this comment so I try to say only the good things. Maybe BP can do something about this and limit a particular forum only to those who are bold enough to offer some useful suggestions with the understanding that members should be open to all the comments whether they are right or wrong. Regards. #5115106
Fran Patterson November 24, 2007
I agree and appreciate you comment. I would rather have critiques than "Great shots" But I think the best way is to say what you like and then say what you don't like or would do differently. Not everyone likes the Mona Lisa. #5117045Peter W. Marks November 25, 2007
Amen to everything you and the others have said about the lack of critiques even when they are specifically invited by the photographer.Pete
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A C November 25, 2007
I love the comp, emotion, subject, and details! (the little things like the wedding ring make me wonder about his family at home)I would love to see this image in color because black and white [currently] isn't quite doing it for me. That perhaps may be because the lighting on the face looks a little flat -- not enough contrast.
How did you convert this to B&W? Did you desaturate it in PS? Trying a different method might make a huge difference. You might want to reference an old thread to give you some new options:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.php?threadID=23415
And if you don't want to read through it all ... try the free black and white plugin from this site:
http://www.photo-plugins.com/
I use it all the time because it is soooo easy and does a great job.
Other than the conversion, I really do like this photo. It tells a story (something I need to do more with my photos lately!) and everything else was Very Well Done.
And there you have it, my honest opinion. I have a hard time giving constructive criticism because I'm always afraid I'll upset someone.
If you do make any changes or try any other methods, I'd love to see 'em!
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Fran Patterson November 26, 2007
I have decided that I am too guilty of what I myself are complaining about and am going to start responding more to other photos. I am also going to go back and and rework this photo and repost eventually Thanks!!! I tried to do some fancy tritone conversion and I think at this size that was all lost. I'll retry!! #5126178I don't really care if someone just says "garbage", I take it as that person had no other ability to better explain their point of view, therefore is just that.
About the pic of the doctor. I love it. I like the color of it too, if it was in full color, then it would detract from the feeling is causing.
Now, is he a model? Or a real doctor? #5126256
Fran Patterson November 26, 2007
Real doc taken by a fake photographer #5127332Anna Lomas November 26, 2007
I only joined the site today so I haven't had a chance to see what the critique is like. I've been responding to some of the pictures and I try to give honest feedback without being too harsh!I love this picture because it's emotive and thought provoking. Sometimes it's difficult to be constructive when you can't find anything wrong with the picture and this is one of those cases! I'm no professional, but I know what I like ;) #5127356
Sarah Lamb November 26, 2007
Hello All!I must confess I'm a little embarassed - I was intrigued by the shot but when I clicked on it I got so into the discussion (as in "Right On!") that I neglected to comment on the photo!
What caught my attention was that I couldn't place his expression right away. Maybe he just made a mistake & lost a patient. Maybe he brought someone back from the edge & is exhausted, you really have to study it. I appreciate that kind of complexity in a photo.
Everyone on this post has some valid points and I've really enjoyed coming back to it. I've seen alot of clubs/groups on this site. This type of discussion could be one (Maybe something like this already exists, but I haven't seen it yet). I would be willing to put up my work for critique. I feel like the feedback and perspective is worth so much more than the occasional hurt feeling. Any thoughts? #5130756
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