Inspiring Photo: The Tram Stop #2 #4984009

The Tram Stop #2

Uploaded: October 28, 2007 14:09:14

Description

Another shot of the tram stop. This old guy just happened to walk into the image. How does this compare to the previous version? (People)
Nikon D50 18-200mm VR lens

Comments

October 28, 2007

Excellent! Did not see the previous version, but I like the effects! #772960

Peter R. Hammer October 28, 2007

Thanks Steve. The earlier one is on the first page in my gallery as I only posted it a few days ago. #4995903

Alexis Yobbagy October 28, 2007

I love this tram shot too!!! This city street scenes really turn my crank!!! #4996160

Holly Hitchcock October 28, 2007

This is great, Peter. The motion vs. still is right on target. The B/W is perfect as well. #4996207

Peter R. Hammer October 28, 2007

Thanks Alexis and Holly. #4996211

Mike D. Perez October 28, 2007

Great motion blurs, Peter! I didn't see the previous version but this one is great. #4996439

Peter R. Hammer October 28, 2007

Thanks Mike. #4996454

Lester A. Garcia October 28, 2007

Hi Peter! This is a powerful image. The different expressions of the people on the bench is just terrific.
The old man with the cane compliments the image. GREAT! #4996534

Peter R. Hammer October 28, 2007

Thanks Lester. #4996613

Amanda M. Freese October 28, 2007

how did you actually make this one happen? Can a take a guess? high shutter speed, and a lower AV setting to catch just those on the bench? #4997483

Peter R. Hammer October 28, 2007

Thanks for the comment Amanda. Actually quite the reverse. The shutter speed was 1/20sec to allow the people in the background to blur due to their motion while keeping the subjects on the bench sharp. I added a bit of help in that in post-processing. A very slow shutter speed would have achieved the result I was after but I couldn't then have maintained sharpness of the people. #4997509

Amanda M. Freese October 28, 2007

oh darn, I knew that. I mixed it up. Thanks for the info.. Im trying to remember it and keep it straight.

:) #4997563

Amanda M. Freese October 28, 2007

did you have to change the AV at all? or just the TV? Does it automatically keep those sitting still sharp even at a slow shutter speed? #4997573

Peter R. Hammer October 28, 2007

It did sound like that Amanda :-) There's a lot to learn when you are starting out in photography. #4997574

Peter R. Hammer October 28, 2007

Amanda I leave the camera on aperture priority and then adjust the aperture to get the shutter speed (A mode) I want although you could do that the other way around using shutter priority mode (S mode). (Note that Canon and a few other manufacturers like the use of Av and Tv which is bizarre and redundant as the v is pointless and S would be much better as S stands for shutter or speed while I presume T stands for time. Not to mention terms which I find quite confusing as a result of them not being logical.) Whether it keeps those sitting sharp depends on whether they move around at all and how much of the frame they fill. Even at 1/20sec you can get a fair bit of motion in a person. It really amounts to how many pixels they move in a given time. As long as the motion is less that a few pixels during the exposure they will appear sharp. Does that make sense to you? #4997617

Amanda M. Freese October 29, 2007

I know what you're saying with the Canon TV and AV, that's exactly what makes it hard to remember. . . the terms aren't logical....

it does, I'll have to read over it a couple times, but so very helpful. . .

#4997770

Peter R. Hammer October 29, 2007

Glad to help out Amanda. You could even do the arithmetic if you wanted to get some more exact values of shutter speed and motion. #4997824

Rhonda Burger October 29, 2007

I totally agree with the Canon TV and AV comment.
I think the people in the background of the first picture look more like reflections...then of course in the 2nd they are moving.
I thought it was funny how you spoke of the first guy being alone...the second photo is still alone. Look at all their body language. No commaraderie there.
Nice image Peter. Rhonda #4999584

Amanda M. Freese October 29, 2007

no arithmetic Peter, that's ok... :) it's enough to try to figure out the AV and TV. . . lol.. .

thank you though :) #5000133

Peter R. Hammer October 29, 2007

Thanks Rhonda and Amanda. Rhonda the body language here is interesting even more so when you know that the guy at the end and the woman next to him are apparently a couple although you wouldn't guess that from the photo. #5000379

Susan M. Campbell October 29, 2007

I like both versions. The first one had a feeling of loneliness as the man sat by himself waiting for the tram. I love the feeling of motion in this one. That man on the left had perfect timing and didn't even know it. Nice work!!! #5001794

Peter R. Hammer October 29, 2007

Thanks Susan. I agree with you. The images are different and I can't decide which one is better. You have to be lucky sometimes when people get into the right position by themselves. #5001816

Lisa J. Boulden November 03, 2007

Such a cool and wonderful scene!
Powerful!
--Lisa #5023216

Peter R. Hammer November 03, 2007

Thanks Lisa. #5023890

Kay E. Mahoney November 26, 2007

Congratulations on your finalist, Peter. #5128107

anonymous November 26, 2007

Congratulations Peter on your finalist! B- #5128214

Peter R. Hammer November 26, 2007

Thanks Kay and Barbara. #5128596

Steve M. Harrington November 26, 2007

Good on you, Peter! :)
Steve #5128960

Peter R. Hammer November 26, 2007

Thanks Steve. #5129407

Donna La Mattino Pagakis November 26, 2007

Congratulations Peter, excellent work. Creative and cool sense of motion, great tones too! #5130262

Peter R. Hammer November 26, 2007

Thanks Donna. #5132170

Erin Tyler November 27, 2007

Congratulations on your finalist! #5134533

Dennis Flanagan November 27, 2007

I think your choice of Black and White is what made this shot. In colour there would have been a lot of distractions. Now we are drawn to the people. Good job and Congratulations. #5136485

Peter R. Hammer November 27, 2007

Thanks Erin and Dennis. #5136724

Esther Smith November 27, 2007

Very creative! Congratulations on your Finalist Peter! #5140077

Peter R. Hammer November 28, 2007

Thanks Esther. #5140890

Alexandra Hankova December 01, 2007

Very interesting. I like the "movement" in the background. #5155920

Peter R. Hammer December 01, 2007

Thanks Alexandra. #5156660

To discuss, first log in or sign up (buttons are at top center of page).

Get Constructive Critiques

Did You Know?

Discussions by Category: You can view photo discussions on various themes in the Community > Photo Discussions section of the site.

BetterPhoto Websites: If you see an orange website link directly under the photographer's name, it's totally okay. It's not spam. The reason: BetterPhoto is the one that offers these personal photography websites. We are supporting our clients with those links.

Unavailable EXIF: If there is no other information but 'Unavailable' in the EXIF (meaning no EXIF data exists with the photo), the 'Unavailable' blurb is not displayed. If there is any info, it shows. Many photos have the EXIF stripped out when people modify the image and resave it, before uploading.

The following truth is one of the core philosophies of BetterPhoto:

I hear, I forget.
I see, I remember.
I do, I understand.

You learn by doing. Take your next online photography class.

You & 1

Love It!

Copyright for this photo belongs solely to Peter R. Hammer.
Images may not be copied, downloaded, or used in any way without the expressed, written permission of the photographer.
Log in to follow or message this photographer or report this photo.

My Profile

My Photo Shows

My Photos

My BetterPholio

My Messages

My Courses

Description

Comments

Get Constructive Critiques

Did You Know?