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Patrick R. McMullen
 

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Are photos with borders, such as matts, accepted in the photo contest?


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April 10, 2004

 

Isabel L
  Yes, I think so.


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October 16, 2004

 
- Gregory LaGrange

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  If you can find a way to upload it.


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October 16, 2004

 

Isabel L
  What do you mean?


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October 16, 2004

 
- Gregory LaGrange

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  I mean you enter the contest by uploading a picture.


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October 16, 2004

 

Diane Dupuis
  Yes, I'm sure that they are. Although I don't see very many with borders or frames making it through to the finals, so it may be something they accept but don't really like. Someone once said that a frame is usually used to help a bad picture. I personally like them.


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October 16, 2004

 

Nancy Grace Chen
  They're accepted. But I don't really see much of a reason for a border... I often see people using borders and gimmicky PS effects to enhance ok photos or to cover up mistakes. I think a photo should be able to stand by itself, in general. There are cases where the effects and borders can be used wisely to enhance, though. But I say, if there's no good reason for it, don't do it. Just my two cents.

Nancy


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October 17, 2004

 

Joanna Pecha
  Using a border, a simple matte like presentation, simply completes the images presentation. Seldom would you submit an unmatted print into any offline competition, it's a visual "completion" for the viewer. I personally use this technique at all times simply for the professional look to the piece. I'm not talking about weird and obnoxious framing, that's pretty sad, but strictly a complementary and non obtrusive matting that helps to showcase the art presented. That's my two cents...Cheers, Joanna


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October 19, 2004

 

Shauna Linde
  I was reading the guidelines/information for sending in photos for contests and they do mention the use of frames. It says you are welcome to, but it does note (as has already been mentioned) that the frame is often used to attempt to make a mediocre photo look better. They don't say they are frowned upon but they do say that the pictures should be exceptional. If that's the case then the picture shouldn't need anything to complement it- it would look amazing on it's own.


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October 19, 2004

 
- Gregory LaGrange

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  Live dangerously and try using a border to as part of making a good picture.
A matte around a picture is just a matte around a picture.
A steel girders around a picture of a welder, something complimentary.


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October 19, 2004

 

Diane Dupuis
  Direct quote from the BP contest rules page:

1) The judges have generally learned to dislike borders. Borders are all too often placed around mediocre photos in an attempt to "dress them up". If you are considering a border, do what the judges do: examine the photo itself, critically and exclusively. Hold up your hands and use your fingers to temporarily hide the borders. If the photo does not stand on its own - without borders, then don't add a border.


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October 19, 2004

 

Shauna Linde
  Well that outta take care of this question! Thanks Diane!:) You found just what I had read..although I didn't remember reading the part that they have "learned" to dislike them. Must of just missed that one! It's somewhat unfortunate though because Gregory gives a good example of when framing could really add something to the photo.


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October 19, 2004

 

Diane Dupuis
  Hi Shauna,
I don't think they are saying you should try to avoid composing your photo with interesting objects to frame it. I think they are talking about adding frames/border after the fact. Too bad I read that a year after joining BP! Oh well - live and learn!


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October 19, 2004

 

Patrick R. McMullen
  I'm learning to avoid frames more and more. Been doing it for a while, but now I think that frames of any type is an artificial attempt to add to the photographers original idea and highly generic. I think a VERY thin border is ok, but if it's something that makes the viewer become aware of right from the start, then it's not a good idea...that's my opinion now.


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October 19, 2004

 
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