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Sandi L. Olson
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Canon 24/70mm f2.8L lens


I have a Canon 60D and I am looking at buying anew lens. I have on my wish list the new Canon telephoto 70-200mm f2.8L with IS. This is very expensive but am determined to save the money to get it. I want to take some landscape pic, a moon pic, sporting events and some possible portraits with it. I am apprehensive of this lens mostly because I have the smaller frame camera and am worried a lens of that quality will be a waste on my 60D.

I also want a 24-70mm canon f2.8L lens just for carrying around. I would like to have it for portraits as well. I already have a Canon 50mm f1.4 lens. So do I really need the 24-70mm. I would really like to have some telephoto capabilities with the 24-70mm as opposed to the fixed 50mm. Would there be a large crop factor with this lens that would make this kind of purchase useless for my 60D?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Sandi Olson

6/25/2011 6:44:01 PM

 
Thomas W. Schoeller
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  Hi Sandi,

I'll start with the fact I'm actually a Nikon pro user, however if I am not mistaken I do believe the 60D is Canon's step up from the 50D. The 50D is one heckuva great camera body in it's own right. It wasnt the "flagship" SLR for Canon but it IS a professionals tool. I see the 60D is now @ 18mp, not that mp is the be all/end all to resolution.

I use full frame lenses on my Nikon D300. All professional grade glass, 80-200 f/2.8 and the Nikkor 24-70 f/2.8 which is full frame. The 60D is a high resolution body, and would benefit from the BEST glass you can afford. Between the 24-70 and the 70-200 lenses you pretty much have all the bases covered except for those Ultra wide landscapes. Your 24mm will be roughly an actual 36mm lens when at 24.

Your 50mm f/1.4 could be used for portraits, as it will be more like a 70mm lens on the 60D. Obviously would get some nice soft bokeh.

Some great equipment reviews to check out: google both Thom Hogan and Ken Rockwell if you haven't done so already.

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6/29/2011 8:22:25 AM

 
Peter K. Burian
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  Hi Sandi, Both of those lenses are fabulous. The 70-200mm may not be long enough for moon shots, however. That's often done with 500mm and longer lenses.

The EOS 60D produces superb! quality. Especially when you use the very best lenses.

Yeah, a 24-70mm lens is not ideal for a camera with the small sensor; it's roughly a 40mm to 110mm equivalent. I would not recommend that.

This one would make more sense (about $600) EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM

Cheers! Peter

6/29/2011 10:23:27 AM

 
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Hi Sandy,
I have an older 40D and a newer 5D Mk II (full frame) and the 3 lenses I carry with me everywhere are the 24-70mm f/2.8L, 70-200mm f/2.8L IS & the 100-400mm f/4.5L IS. These lenses will last you for many years to come.
You wont regret getting any of these lenses.
my .02,
Carlton

6/29/2011 9:43:34 PM

 
Thomas W. Schoeller
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  Agree. In the business, we use a term "welded to your camera". The 24-70 is a lens that fits the description. @ 24 mm with your sensor the lens will act as a 35mm on a 35mm film camera.

6/30/2011 4:45:12 AM

 
Sandi L. Olson
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  Thomas,
Is the 35mm good or bad? I know there will be some cropping but if the crop is too much then maybe purchasing that lens is not worth it. However, I am hard headed enough I will probably just jump into it. I think I am going to go with the 70-200mm f4 Lseries lens. What do you think about that. I am worrie that lens at an f/2.8 is going to be too heavy. What do you think?
sandi

6/30/2011 6:46:15 AM

 
Peter K. Burian
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  I'm sticking to my original recommendation.

I just do not see a 38-112 mm equivalent lens as the best bet for any camera. And that's what you would have with the 24-70mm zoom.

It's really intended for full-frame cameras like the EOS 5D Mk II.

The 17-85mm lens, however, would be a 27-136mm equivalent ... true wide angle to short telephoto.

P.

6/30/2011 6:51:35 AM

 
Thomas W. Schoeller
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  35mm Good or Bad????

Sandi, I believe on the 60D what you are looking at through the viewfinder is exactly what is being recorded. Check with your manual or a great Canon source. That is the MOST important factor here. The term "cropping" tends to be a scary proposition, often misunderstood in this case. The opposite scenario is what one needs to be more aware of, and that is a lens for the CMOS sensor mounted to a full frame body. You will get vignette. Not pretty :)

Rule of thumb, a 50mm lens on an old 35mm film body is a normal lens. While a 35mm lens on same body is considered a wide angle. Back in the day, it was common to carry a 24 or 28mm superwide fixed focal length lens. Nowadays Canon, Tokina and Nikon have professional ultra wide f/4 zoom lenses in the 12-24mm range if you need that perspective. And yes, ones that will work on full frame later on if necessary. Note* ANY single lens that meets all that criteria (focal length) from say 18mm to 250 or 270mm is generally of much lower quality optics. Purchasing a full frame lens now may save you $$ later should you invest in a Canon full frame body.**

Re: Intended use, the full frame lenses work awesome for both sensors. ZERO issue.


I can't answer "too heavy" for you. I can only use high end glass, and weight is of no consideration to me. Again, it's a spec that the tekkies fret over for writing reviews in Popular Photography magazine. You get what ya pay for with photographic equipment, and commercial grade equipment rarely comes ultra light weight. An f/2.8 zoom will definitely let you know it's there!

Again remember you invested in a professional tool (60D) In order to take advantage of the resolution capabilities you'll benefit from better glass. I would consider what Ken Rockwell or Thom Hogan have to say about the 70-200 f/4 S lens. Nobody but you can answer whats right, I don't know where your at or where you are going with photography. You may have purchased a body that far exceeds your needs for now, I don't know.

Re: Peters response above. It's hard for anyone to make judgement on that because the end use of a specific scene or portrait is what dictates what tool to use. Imaging beginning site excavation and as a contractor showing up to work with a 12" rake and a spade shovel. Or perhaps hiring someone for gardening and the guy shows up with a road grader? I have 27 yrs experience, and have instructed advanced techniques seminars the last 2 years. I can define exactly what my "best bet" is for the situation before me. Sometimes the scene call for a 12mm lens extension, or perhaps a Lensbaby. One needs to be able to understand what they plan to create before the photoshoot. I'm not familiar with the Canon lenses, but IMO a lens 17-85mm is not in Canons line of professional glass. Sandi, for general use a lower cost 17-85mm lens may indeed be a good option for you. I know, sounds confusing but it is difficult to walk in anothers shoes.

~best~

6/30/2011 8:15:40 AM

 
Doug Nelson
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  See the photozone articles at
http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos/184-canon-ef-24-70mm-f28-usm-l-test-report--review?start=2

I do not own a Canon L zoom yet, although a 70-200 L variant is in the plans. I offer the article because

1. the 24-70 seems excellent optically, better than the more widely used 16-35 and 24-105 in terms of distortion and overall sharpness.
2. A lot of pros, if you watch the news, use this lens. You can tell because the lens shade is not the toothed monstrosity of some other Canon L's.
3. You must be careful to test the one you buy, because bad samples do exist, IMO, inexcusable with such expensive lenses. Buy new, so you can return it if it isn't to your requirements. The seller of a used one may be trying to dump a clunker.

7/12/2011 9:49:15 AM

 
Doug Nelson
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  According to PZ's tests, the 24mm end is astoundingly good. On a crop sensor, you have a 38 equivalent.

I should have said that its hood is not the tulip thingee. Its distinctive shape is easily differentiated from other zooms.

7/12/2011 9:57:14 AM

 
Lynn R. Powers
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  The 24-70f2.8L weighs 2.1 pounds. That is about a half a pound heavier than my 70-200f4L IS. The people that use the 24-70 f2.8 lens the most are those with FF cameras and are taking wedding photos. For their second lens they use the 70-200 f2.8L IS. It is also a heavy lens to carry around all day, I had one and it gets very tiring and it doesn't balance well on a XXD camera. On the other hand the f4 version even with a 1.4X TE balances very well on a 20D and a 40D.

When measuring the difference between 28mm and 38mm the difference in the wide angle ranges is considerable. In telephoto lenses it is barely noticed. I do agree with Peter about the 17-85 for your 60D but if you can afford the price difference the 15-85 is supposed to be a better lens. For my 40D I use the 17-85 and it is very satisfactory on a cropped sensor camera.

7/13/2011 9:25:55 PM

 
Carolyn Vickers
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  Sandi,
Go to Amazon.com and you will find camera gear from cases to bodies, lenses, filters etc. Almost any accessory you could think of for any make or model camera. All of it is very nicely discounted! Canon was out of an item I wanted. The rep told me to shop Amazon.com. I recieved what I needed for $4.00 instead of $30.00. I am on a limited income, so this was a gold mine for me. Good Luck.

10/10/2011 9:39:17 PM

 

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