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Lisa Carpenter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/8/2004
 

What Photoshop to Buy?


I have recently purchased, and awaiting, the Canon 20D and am slowly getting a business going in mostly portraiture. Can anyone suggest what photo editing software I should buy? I want the Photoshop CS but I think it is around $600 and I don't want to spend that much right off the bat ... thanks!


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10/16/2004 8:49:35 AM

 
Jean-Sébastien Duchesne   You could try Photoshop Elements 3. It seems about the same as Photoshop CS but aimed at amateur photographers instead of professionals. It seems more user-friendly. Actually, you should probably be getting a copy with your 20D. If you don’t get it, it is only $86.99 USD at Softchoice.com ($44.21 USD if you’re a student).
Good luck with your new business.


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10/16/2004 2:50:16 PM

 
Diane Dupuis-Kallos
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/27/2003
  Photoshop Elements should be more than enough right now. It is usually under $100. And if one day you want to spend 7 times more and get the full Photoshop, you'll know the environment already.


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10/16/2004 7:02:26 PM

 
Lisa Carpenter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/8/2004
  Thanks guys. I appreciate it. Does the Photoshop Elements allow you to do many of the things that 7 does?


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10/17/2004 6:11:47 AM

 
Diane Dupuis-Kallos
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/27/2003
  I think it does about 75 or 80 percent of what the full version does. Check it out at the Adobe site.


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10/17/2004 6:14:57 AM

 
Lori Carpenter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/31/2004
  Lisa,
I have Elements 2 (received it with my Digital Rebel) and I use it at work quite a bit. I have CS at home. Elements does quite a bit but doesn't have the Healing Brush (this blends pixels), which is great for restoration and blemish corrections. I also can't figure out how, if at all, that Elements can take Actions. I use a lot of Actions with CS. Those are the two differences that I notice more than anything else. Photoshop is an incredible program. Diane has a good point, if you start with Elements then the transition to CS would be very smooth if you choose to do that.


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10/17/2004 7:22:30 AM

 
Lisa Carpenter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/8/2004
  Lori, does the new Elements 3.0 have anything close to the healing brush? Say I want to clear up a little facial imperctions ... is there anyway to do that with Elements?
Thanks!


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10/17/2004 8:24:12 AM

 
Lori Carpenter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/31/2004
  I have Elements 2, so I don't know what 3 has. I'm pretty sure you can still clean up blemishes with the paint brush and some blending modes. If I have something like that to do, I just bring it home and work on it in CS. Maybe some of the pros can answer this one to give you some good ideas of what you can do for those type of imperfections with Elements.


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10/17/2004 8:33:15 AM

 
Mary Bell   I bought a Canon 10D last year. It came with PS Elements 2.0 I found out that bacause of the purchase I was entitled, from Adobe, to a one time upgrade to PS CS for HALF the amount. I think I went to the Adobe website where I ordered CS for a total of $328 and change. If it's not on the site, just contact Adobe through email and inquire about this opportunity. Good luck!


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10/19/2004 3:08:01 AM

 
Lisa Carpenter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/8/2004
  Hey, thanks a bunch guys!!! great help.
Oh, I researched the new Elements 3.0 coming out and it will have the healing brush! woo hooo!!!


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10/19/2004 4:06:08 AM

 
diana barrett   I"ve been thinking about this alot and Elements also lacks Channels, which is pretty key if you're interested in B and W printing. there are some excellent books for elements though and it is 90% the same; I just keep finding small but key things that it lacks..but the price...I would agree; start with Elements...


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10/19/2004 5:13:41 AM

 
Patricia A. Cale
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/25/2002
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  You can learn all about Photoshop Elements 3 at www.photoshopelementsuser.com. This is a site for a new newsletter devoted to PS Elements 3 and Scott Kelbey is the editor. It has a lot of information and some audio streams to listen to. I pre-ordered Elements 3 on Amazon and it is supposed to ship this week.


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10/19/2004 6:41:49 AM

 
Jim Taylor   Another relative inexpensive alternative is JASC Paint Shop Pro. It seems to have most of the same features as CS but sells for less than $100.


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10/19/2004 7:35:28 AM

 
Janis Herd
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/11/2004
  The website mentioned above by Pat B., www.photoshopelementsuser.com.
says Elements 3 does have Healing Brush! I am about to upgrade to E.3 right NOW!
Janis Herd


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10/19/2004 12:01:37 PM

 
Lisa Carpenter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/8/2004
  I get GREAT info. on this site. Thanks to everyone.


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10/19/2004 1:15:14 PM

 
Jerry Harkins   I have Elements and Jasc 9. I think JASC 9 offers more than Elements for the money. It isn't a lot more expensive than Elements.


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10/19/2004 2:09:15 PM

 
Michael Kaplan   There is a special available for Canon DSLR users to upgrade from the Elements 2 that comes with the 20D to PS CS for $299.00 USD. If you really want PS CS which is a great progam, that is the best way to buy it.SMichael Kaplan
Canon EOS-20D
http://www.pbase.com/mkaplan


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10/19/2004 4:31:33 PM

 
Greg McCroskery
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/27/2003
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  Lisa,
I operate a small studio doing portraits, wedding, and event photography mostly. I use PS Elements 2 right now, though I may upgrade to 3 if it offers enough added features. Elements 2 will do anything I need in terms of post processing portrait, etc. images. As far as facial touch up I use the cloning stamp with a soft edge brush style, and find it works perfectly. I also use the cloning tool for eyeglass glare touch up, stray hairs, etc. -- it's very simple once you've practiced some. Like you, I'm not ready to pay the cost of full blown CS when I'm getting the results I need with Elements.

God Bless,
Greg


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10/19/2004 6:20:04 PM

 
Janis Herd
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/11/2004
  After reading about it, I ordered Elements 3 today. Amazon.com is having a special through the end of the month where your final price is only 49.00, but that's after you wait for two rebates totaling 45.00 to come back to you. Shipping is free at the moment.


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10/19/2004 6:44:51 PM

 
Patricia A. Cale
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/25/2002
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  I pre-ordered it under the same rebates and they said I should expect delivery this week. I'm looking forward to getting it! It sounds like a small version of CS.

On Amazon, shipping is always free if your order is over $25.00.


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10/19/2004 6:52:05 PM

 
Ken R. Edwards   I suggest you go for Photoshop CS the full version. There are sooooo many books on how to use it. Any lots of DVD training materials. Here is a legal way to get it for about $300.
On Ebay there are lots of people selling a never before used version 7 along with a never used Upgarde to CS.
I did this and it worked out great!


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10/20/2004 6:21:19 PM

 
Janis Herd
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/11/2004
  I'm sticking with Elements for now at 49.95! I just bought a new lens and can't afford any more big expenses at the moment. If I ever master Elements then I will move up!


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10/20/2004 7:15:19 PM

 
Janet Kinney
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/15/2003
  I attended a class in S.F. yesterday by a very well known author and teacher and he highly praised the new Elements 3. It is a lot less expensive. I asked the same question you did. Hope this helps.


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10/24/2004 6:19:11 AM

 
Andrew Laverghetta
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/13/2004
  hi all, I was wondering, it's probably not a good idea to download a version of PS like 7.0 or CS and use it for a business is it? I was just thinking about that and thought I'd ask. The law...uhhhhg!


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11/12/2004 8:11:30 PM

 
Linda M. Walker
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/27/2004
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  I have Elements 3.0 and it is great. It does have the healing brush.


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11/19/2004 4:57:38 AM

 
Terry  R. Hatfield
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2003
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  Buy A New Version Of Ps 7 You Can Find It Cheap Upgrade To Cs (Its A Full Version Of Cs And Runs As A Seperate Program) But You Need A Lisensed Version Of Ps 7 To Use It 120.00 For ps7 200.00 Upgrade To Cs 320.00 Total For Cs:-)


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12/13/2004 7:18:08 PM

 
Monte Darland   I'm an Adobe Certified Instructor and I teach Photoshop CS as side job. I know PS Elements and it's a good all around beginner program. However, if you want to start learning to tweak color and tonal values accurately, Photoshop is the only program to do this effectively. You cannot see separate channels in Elements and it's good to know how to edit images through there individual channels to get better tonal values. Also, Photoshop does not upgrade from Elements. Good luck!

Monte Darland, ACI


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12/21/2004 7:49:03 AM

 
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