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Photography Question 
Christopher A. Walrath
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member since: 4/25/2006
  81 .  Pihole doodads and reciprocity thingys
OK. Quandry. I have been on the periphary of pinhole photography for sometime but, now that I am finally able to develop my own B&W I'm going for it. I took an old folder (6x6 Wirgin) and removed the bellows/lens assembly to make a 35mm perspective control lens and I was trying to come up with another fate for the folder body than the trash receptical. Then it dawned on me. Medium format pinhole. I reassembled the innards (roll film brackets, film tensioners) and then set about to building the front of the camera. I cut cardboard from the back of a Steno pad about 10mm larger than the old lens window and cut a hole in the center of that and then covered it with black electrical tape. I then cut a 5cm square piece of aluminum foil, rubbed it flat and taped it to the inside of the pinhole board. Then I mounted that to the front of the body and marked the center on the inside. Took a regular sewing needle and applied very light pressure while rolling it slightly in my fingers until the needle tip just pierced the foil. Then I cut out another square of cardboard, smaller this time and covered it, taped a hinge onto it and mounted it over the pinhole. I also fix a couple loops of thread so that I could more easily open the cover. Put a piece of tape over the tripod hole inside the camera body, loaded film, tied the lid closed with a thin black shoe string and christened it the Walra-Lux 2008.

Now I have made a couple of exposures. But I need to test this camera a little bit. I have TMX-120 loaded and the aperture is around f/256 (needle tip miked at about .2mm and the focal length is about 27mm). This would require any meter reading calling for an exposure at EV16 about one second exposure. Which means EV 10 would need a little over a minute mathematically. How would I figure reciprocity adjustments? Since Kodak publishes an additional 5 seconds if a meter reading requires ten seconds, I'm figuring that you should add about four seconds to a reading that would call for an 8 second exposure. And since that same publication says to adjust a 100 second required exposure by doubling it so probably about the same for a two minute exposure, expose for four minutes. But waht about in between? Do I do what Kodak did and just bracket it until I get the matching exposure and publish it or has anyone here already done pinhole and reciprocity with TMX and can shed some light on the subject (no pun intended)? Any comments would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you
Chris

3/20/2008 6:58:02 PM

Alan N. Marcus

member since: 3/4/2006
  Hi Chris,

Reciprocity law failure is a curve that can be grafted. However I think you will find this table adequate for the task.

1/10,000 sec. = + ˝ stop i.e. shutter speed times 1.5
1/1000 thru 1/10 second = none
1 sec. = + 1 stop i.e. shutter speed times 2
10 sec. = + 2 stops i.e. shutter speed times 4
100 sec. = +3 ˝ stops i.e. shutter speed times 12

Alan Marcus
ammarcus@earthlink.net

3/20/2008 10:14:42 PM

Alan N. Marcus

member since: 3/4/2006
  For theses who are curious:

The sensitivity of film to light (exposure) is rated by a method established by the International Standards Organization (ISO). Film is coated (emulsion) with a myriad of light sensitive silver crystals (salts of silver). A numerical value (speed) is assigned based on how much light energy is required to cause the average crystal in the emulsion to be rendered developable.

This value is a variable based on circumstances. While many factors cause this value to alter, shutter speed has the most pronounced effect.

ISO plummets for very short exposures, such as the type employed when recording super fast motion like bullets or humming birds in flight.

ISO also plummets when time exposure is employed. It begins to drop when the speed exceeds 1 second. Photographers must take this behavior into account and apply exposure compensation.

In a nut-shell, reciprocity failure is a disobedience to the published ISO. It occurs when the shutter speed is set outside the customary range. In other words, exceeding long or exceeding short exposure results is a plunge of the rated ISO speed.

Why? Silver salts react to light via an internal chemical change. If the exposure is exceptionally short the silver salt will not have sufficient time to wholly absorb and react. In other words, the sliver salt is under “chemical inertia” a force that tends to keep the crystal stable. Exceeding short exposure demands additional light energy to cause the crystal to be exposed.

Should an exposure take place over a longer than normal interval, the photon hits, doing the job, come in serial fashion meaning there is a time lag between hits. During the dwell periods between hits, the crystal has time to restore itself somewhat. The net effect is more exposure than one would calculate is required to render the crystal developable.

Alan Marcus (marginal technical gobbledygook)
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3/21/2008 7:45:23 AM

Christopher A. Walrath
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member since: 4/25/2006
  Posted by Alan Marcus "Should an exposure take place over a longer than normal interval, the photon hits, doing the job, come in serial fashion meaning there is a time lag between hits. During the dwell periods between hits, the crystal has time to restore itself somewhat. The net effect is more exposure than one would calculate is required to render the crystal developable."

Ya know, there are questions that never occur to me until the great guru tells me something I didn't know I wanted to know. You rock, Alan. Thank you
Chris

3/22/2008 1:09:42 PM

Christopher A. Walrath
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member since: 4/25/2006
  I came up with these general numbers. As f/256 at one second is EV16, here is what I have.

EV - recommended time - adjusted for reciprocity
EV16 - 1 sec - 1 sec
EV15 - 2 sec - 2.5 sec
EV14 - 4 sec - 5.5 sec
EV13 - 8 sec - 12 sec
EV12 - 15 sec - 25 sec
EV11 - 30 sec - 50 sec
EV10 - 60 sec - 110 sec
EV9 - 120 sec - 240 sec
EV8 - 240 sec - 510 sec

This fits Kodak's recommendations for TMX in their literature which states 'expose TMX for 15 seconds when exposure calls for 10 and expose for 200 seconds when exposure calls for 100'. Works so far.

Thanks
Chris

3/31/2008 4:37:22 PM

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Photography Question 
Brett M
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member since: 1/22/2008
  82 .  Determining an Underexposed Negative
Hey

whenever I do a shoot, I usually shoot on 35mm and then get 4x6's at a crummy place like wal mart, just to see them before I have them enlarged, reprinted, etc.

I got my prints from wal mart and the quality was a crappy as usual, which consequently made me unable to judge the film exposure.

i had the prints enlarged (65 bucks later) and it turns out that the film was underexposed.

my question is:
How can I tell if a negative in underexposed before learning the hard, expensive way?

3/15/2008 6:43:59 PM

Pete H
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member since: 8/9/2005
  Brett,

Looking at the final result from a photo is not a indicator of proper exposure.

Even Walmart runs film thru standard processing..not pushed or pulled.

You should be able to "look" at the negatives for standard density and contrast values in determing under or over exposure.

If your eye is inexperienced in this, buy a densitometer.

all the best,

Pete

3/15/2008 7:02:47 PM

Christopher A. Walrath
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member since: 4/25/2006
  Pete is spot on on this one, well, kind of. Your eye is your best judge as to whether you got your exposure right. But I would move using your eye earlier than negative densities and put it to good use on your camera during exposure. You already use film which moves you WAY up in my book. Now study exposure. Buy a hand held off-camera light meter and learn it forwards and back. Go so far as to learn the math behind photography. Don't know why, but as much as I have studied photography over the years I can almost 'see' different relationships math-wise. It's like freakin' 'Rain Man' or something.

But what I'm trying to say here, Brett, is to acquaint yourself with photography SO MUCH that you know it second nature, you do without having it interfere with your creativity, and you will know it so well that you got your exposure right that it won't take Wal-Mart to tell you otherwise. STUDY. STUDY. STUDY. Make yourself better. Make yourself wiser. At some point you may wish to study sensitometry but you don't need to go right out and buy that equipment right now. It'd be like me going out and buying an airplane because I can't see into the next yard over the fence I built. There are easier paths to take and more logical ways to get us from point 'A' to point 'B'. And learning, even more than you already know, the how's and why's of photography are your first major steps to becoming a more complete photographer.

Some ideas. If you shoot color films bear in mind the these films can be very unforgiving. Exposure latitude is the amount of detail to either side of proper exposure that will still be recorded on a negative/slide (ie. highlights and shadows). Color films generally have only about a three stop range of exposure latitude if you are shooting color reversal films (slide films). Color negative films have a little more of a cushion, about 5. Black and white negative films can be much more forgiving but you still have to be close. They have an exposure latitude of 7-9 stops. Much more room to work with.

Exposure bracketting. I don't practice this except in extremely low light and long timed exposures because they can be difficult to get right, no matter how good you are. But exposure bracketting is kind of like laying down a good cover fire in hopes that your enemy will be distracted enough that you can get out alive. Well, maybe not that drastic. You shoot your subject at the indicated exposure from your reading. Now if you're still not sure, you decrease exposure by one stop and shoot again. Then move back to your original exposure setting and increase exposure by one stop and fire a third frame. This will ensure you get decent exposure for a tricky important shot.

Buy one book and all of your problems will be solved. (I just love the sound of that). Not really, but it is the book that showed me the most over the years. It was written by Ansel Adams and it is entitled 'The Negative'. Exposure, the Zone System, natural and artificial light, filters and even film processing. It's all here and is laid out in a concise and easy to learn manner. This is my photographic BIBLE.

Godd luck, Brett.

Thank you
Chris

3/16/2008 6:55:34 AM

Gregory LaGrange
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member since: 11/11/2003
  It's something you'll have to learn by doing until you get a feel for what you shot and how it should look on film.
Reading is important, but it still needs you to do the film so you can see what different types of shots should look like.
Like learning to judge a properly exposed night shot.

3/16/2008 7:08:29 AM

Mark Feldstein
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member since: 3/17/2005
  There's a lot of great stuff here that's been said. Film-based B&W photography can be incredibly artistic and versatile. Rather than trusting your film to Walmart or anyone else for that matter, you might consider processing your film yourself. All it takes is a film tank, a couple of chemicals and some water. Being able to control the process will help you control the final results. And you can take your self-processed film to any reasonably competent lab (Walmart not being one of them) for printing either prints or contact sheets.

Also, as Chris said, while practicing is important, experimenting is just as important. You'll find (and I hope pleasantly so) that controlling your exposure, learning how to visualize how the film sees the scene will help you produce top quality results. And to help you visualize that scene, having and knowing how to use a hand held light meter IMHO is equally important.

Then add knowledge of how contrast filters help in the process, how to expose for say shadows and process for highlights, seeing light and shadows and learning exposure latitude of particular films AND the right combination of developer to use with which films will also help you learn a lot.

As for bracketing, even when you really get a handle on the process itself, you may find yourself wanting to bracket exposures. Personally, I don't see anything wrong with that at all. I do it myself regardless of format I'm shooting in at the time. Film is the cheapest commodity we have I think, and a couple of extra frames here and there is a good investment in avoiding reshoots and if you keep accurate exposure notes while learning, can also help teach you the nuts and bolts of the process.

Enjoy the learning curve. Alot of people here at BP would disagree but IMO it's well worth the time and effort. Also check out APUG.org. Great info on shooting b&w, processing and equipment.
Mark

3/16/2008 12:53:05 PM

Alan N. Marcus

member since: 3/4/2006
  Hi Brett,

It will be most difficult to express in words, instructions that will help you improve your skills to make visual assessments of your negatives. However; the correct exposure is generally defined as the least exposure that produces an image with tonalities and or color intensities desired by the photographer while retaining adequate shadow detail.

I advise you to procure an inexpensive slide sorter (under $25). These are illumined viewers made of milk colored plastic with shelves to hold slides. While designed for slide sorting that will hold negative strips. You can make such a viewer by procuring milk glass or opal glass or plastic at the hardware store. Replacement diffusers for florescent light fixtures are inexpensive and excellent for this task. Cut a sheet of milk plastic and illuminate from behind. You are making a light table to lay-out your negatives. Once the negatives and prints are viewed simultaneously, you will soon get the hang of it. The best light will be a mixture of florescent and incandescent. Allow 60 watts incandescent to intermix with 40 watts florescent CW (cool white). This combination (ratio) yields a high color index needed for photo inspection.

A word about quality: I speak with more that 50 years experience evaluating all categories of photo lab work. All labs, even the high-status pro labs, have good and bad days. Without question, all of the mass merchandising photo labs invest enormous resources into their quality control effort. Their employee training is first rate; their equipment is top of the line. Generally they never falter as to the quality of their product. In all likelihood a mass merchandising photo lab will out perform all but a handful of their entrepreneurial counterparts.

Alan Marcus
ammarcus@earthlink.net

3/17/2008 8:02:29 AM

Christopher A. Walrath
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member since: 4/25/2006
  Yeah, dude, I just started eveloping my own film about a month ago. And why the h-e-double-hockey-sticks didn't I do it sonner. I love it. I got started for about $350. And that included the lion's share of my film for the year, chems, small gear, S/S tanks and reels for 35mm and 120. You just don't know what you're missing until you catch that first whiff of fixer.

Thanks
Chris

3/17/2008 7:47:49 PM


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  If you are going to use wally world (sic) to process your film, Write color correct on your envelopes in the special instructions section. This even goes for black and white film. If you would like cepia tones, write add cepia. They may not like it, but will usually honor your requests.

Have fun and keep shooting,
Mark H.

4/1/2008 10:57:27 PM

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Paul Brewer

member since: 3/13/2008
  83 .  maxxum 4000 flash compatibiltiy
Is the maxxum 4000af flash compatible with x700 body?I'm assuming that since it is dedicated,it shoulld work,just no af of course.Thanks for your time.Paul

3/13/2008 12:27:54 PM

Jon Close
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member since: 5/18/2000
  Don't know for sure, it might work in TTL. The x700 had TTL flash control with the PX line of speedlights, and the hotshoe pins mostly match up. AF assist will not work, and neither will the auto zoom to match the focal length.

3/13/2008 1:47:53 PM


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  Hi Paul,

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but no, a Maxxum flash is not compatible with your X700. The X700 has a standard hot shoe with the addition of two ttl contacts. The Maxxums use a completely different system. There are many flashes on the market that use a module system that is easily modified to be used on both cameras.

Have fun and keep shooting,
Mark H.

3/13/2008 6:39:25 PM

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Jim Braden

member since: 6/30/2003
  84 .  Hexanon lenses and Nikon/Canon bodies
I have Konica Hexanon lenses for my FT-1 bodies. The bodies are giving me trouble and I'm considering newer SLR bodies to use with my old lenses.

Will Hexanon lenses fit onto a Nikon F100 or Canon EOS 3, and if I need a mount, what would it be called?

The lenses are manual focus. Are there any SLR bodies (film or digital) on the market (new or used) that have autofocus drives that can basically turn MF into AF?


I know the lenses are good, but the lack of AF is an annoyance and if my bodies fail I need to decide on a future system that is preferably film-based, but may be digital.

3/11/2008 2:45:26 PM

Jon Close
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member since: 5/18/2000
  Short answer, no. There have never benn any autofocus SLRs, film or digital, that can mount and use the Konica lenses. Konica quit the SLR business at the dawn of autofocus, adn their unique mount was not used by any other line. While there are adapters to fit many other old manual focus lenses to modern SLRs and DSLRs (especially Nikon, Pentax, Olympus, Leica R, and Contax/Zeiss lenses to EOS), I have never seen any for adapting the Konica lenses. Due to the Konica lens flange to film plane distance being much shorter than for other brands, such an adapter would require optical elements to maintain infinity focus - but would necessarily also act as a teleconverter with some image degradation. Good as they are, Konica lenses never sold in numbers great enough to make a commercial adapter worthwhile.

3/12/2008 12:02:36 PM

Doug Nelson
DougNelsonPhoto.com

member since: 6/14/2001
  I read a lot of reviews of Konica optics in the manual focus SLR heyday. These lenses are too good to go to waste. Determine, from what you know about Konica, what the best, most relable body was, get one and have it CLA'd (clean, lubricate, adjust). You can scan your negs and slides to convert them to digital, or pay to have it done.

3/13/2008 8:52:45 AM

Christopher A. Walrath
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 4/25/2006
  Hi, Jim. I found this list of Konica cameras on wikipedia that accept AR mount lenses. Here goes.

Konica Auto-Reflex (1965-1968) Known as the Autorex in Japan.
Konica Auto-Reflex P (1966-1968) Known as the Autorex P in Japan.
Konica Autoreflex T (1968-1970)
Konica Autoreflex A (1968-1971)
Konica Autoreflex T2 (1970-1973)
Konica Autoreflex A2 (1971-1972)
Konica Autoreflex A1000 (1972-1973)
Konica Autoreflex T3 (1973-1975)
Konica Autoreflex A3 (1973-?)
Konica Autoreflex T3N (1975-1978)
Konica Autoreflex TC (1976-1982)
Konica Autoreflex T4 (1978-1979)
Konica FS-1 (1979-1983)
Konica FC-1 (1980-1983)
Konica FP-1 (1981-1983)
Konica FT-1 (1983-1987)
Konica TC-X (1985-1987) Built by Cosina.

Hope this helps if you can't get the FT-1 CLA'ed cheap.

Thank you
Chris

3/14/2008 3:17:01 PM

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Carissa Knapp

member since: 3/9/2008
  85 .  purposely exposing film
Hi. I am trying to purposely expose a roll of film. To get the best random colors, etc. should I open up the film to light in the beginning, middle or end of shooting the roll? Thanks!!

3/9/2008 7:48:14 PM

Alan N. Marcus

member since: 3/4/2006
  Hi Carissa,

Your question seems strange however; I know there are no norms when it comes to art so here goes.

Unexposed film requires light or other radiant energies to cause the sensitized silver salt crystals to become exposed and thus rendered developable. Each silver salt thus has a threshold requirement. In the camera, light from the scene streams through the camera’s optical system and bathes the film with light energy in proportion to the brightness distribution.

Should you pre-expose the film to light, and the light level (energy) you supply is below exposure threshold, then the film will be made more sensitive to light. You can do this uniformly or perhaps fabricate a way to add this exposure randomly as to both color and intensity. In any event those locations that receive this exposure will be artificially elevated as to ISO. This is known as hyper sensitization. It is a valid technique used to increase film’s sensitivity to light. Hyper sensitization is normally preformed via a uniform light exposure or exposure to chemical fumes prior to the camera exposure.

You can flash after the camera exposure. In graphic arts, a flash exposure is used to change the film’s characteristics. A bump exposure is a flash with the halftone screen removed; this is just another way to alter the film’s scale.

You can have lots of fun pre-exposing and post-exposing. You must figure out how to control these exposures, and you can use different color flashes. You are mostly on your own as this will be your experimentation. I envy you – go to it.

Alan Marcus
ammarcus@earthlink.net

3/9/2008 10:57:48 PM

Alan N. Marcus

member since: 3/4/2006
  Last night an idea hit me. No it wasn’t the wife or the dog; it was just a pure notion. Seems from your description you want to capture odd and strange colors and shapes by exposing film to non-imaging light bursts.

You might want to use the web to check out shadowgraphs. This is a method whereby objects like leaves and keys and watches or maybe lace are placed (in the dark) on top of film and then briefly exposed by turning on the lights or using odd light sources like sparks and the like. I was thinking you might try the new LED toys, you know the ones that have red – green – blue – spinning LEDs. Look at the works of William Henry Fox Talbot who did this in 1836. You could use sparking toys or use your imagination regarding other light sources. Maybe you would be better using an old junk 120 box camera, the film is bigger.

Alan Marcus

3/10/2008 7:03:03 AM

Christopher A. Walrath
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member since: 4/25/2006
  If you camera has a multiple exposure setting you might try making a random exposure with each individual frame before making your image? Just a thought.

Thank you
Chris

3/10/2008 2:55:14 PM

Carissa Knapp

member since: 3/9/2008
  Thank you so so much for all the help. I am so impressed with the answers and how helpful you all have been! Will let you know!! Thank you again.

3/10/2008 5:22:17 PM

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Corin Jones

member since: 3/1/2008
  86 .  Studio Lighting
I am photographing people with studio lights, with a white background. How do I make the background go completley white? I always seem to be able to see wrinkles on the backdrop or shadows from the wrinkles in the prints. I have been lighting with two lights on the background and one on the subject. Am I not moving the subject far enough away from the background, wrong exposure or lighting?

3/1/2008 11:10:00 AM

Alan N. Marcus

member since: 3/4/2006
  Hi Corin,

First shadow free background is difficult. A black background is least likely to show shadows. White is the most difficult. You must pour on the background light. The idea is to over-expose the background. Severe overexposure forces the background to go white and detail like wrinkles vanish.

If you were skilled with a light meter and you measured the background and set your aperture (and shutter for continuous lights), as the meter indicates, your background will reproduce middle gray regardless of its color. What I am trying to tell you is; you must light the background a minimum of three f/stops brighter than the subject, four would be better.

You say you are using one “main” or “key” light. I suggest you place it high to simulate afternoon sun. Because white backgrounds lend themselves to a category we call “high key”, you are better off if the “main” is brought closer in to the camera, (almost by not quite frontal lighting). So maybe it would be best to place the main at the seven O’clock or four O’clock position (subject in center of clock, background at twelve O’clock, and camera at six O’clock).

Now you second lamp should carry out the job of filling the shadows cast by the main. Set a lamp close to the camera at lens height. This will be the “fill”. This lamp is adjusted so the light arrives at the subject at 50% of the intensity of the “main”. Achieved either by power adjustment or setting the fill at a further distance than the main. If power is not adjustable and main and fill are equal fixtures. Measure main-to-subject distance and multiply by 1.4. This calculates the required fill-to-subject distance.

Now the background light must be brighter as measured at the background. Again you can accomplish by distance. Place the background light hidden behind subject. Shine it upwards at the background. If equal to the main as to wattage, measure main-to-subject distance and multiply by 0.08. (Example main is 10 feet x 0.2 = 2 feet). Note: this may be impossible to achieve as the background likely will become unevenly illuminated plus with continuous lights the background might overheat. This all means, you need more fixtures so you can more evenly and brightly light the background.

Maybe you should not attempt an even white background. You might want to practice your digital editing and enhancement skills.

Alan Marcus (marginal technical advice otherwise known as gobbledygook)
ammarcus@earthlink.net
Anaheim, CA

3/1/2008 12:14:51 PM

  Hi Corin,
Most, maybe all, of the advertising shots you see with the white background are actually clipped from the original background. While this is time consuming it is often better than trying to do this in camera. The problem is that you need to reduce the light on the subject to the point where the background is overexposed throughout the shot. If you do that the edges of the background often get “burnt” from the over exposure behind them. So the problem is with exposure, but the acceptable range of exposure for the background is very thin. What is your goal for these images?
Thanks, John Siskin

3/1/2008 4:18:39 PM

Diane Dupuis-Kallos
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 12/27/2003
  Our white background has to be very well lit... I actually use two 500 watt garage "hot" lights to light it... Then my two continuous studio lights on my subect who is about 4-5 feet away. You have to set your exposure a little towards overexposure to get the white bright enough - and sometimes you have to finish it off (i.e. clean it up) in PS...

3/2/2008 5:10:43 AM

Pete H
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 8/9/2005
  Hello Corin,

"I am photographing people with studio lights, with a white background. How do I make the background go completley white?"

There is not quite enough information in your question.

Are you shooting a group of people? One person full length? Head shot?

A head shot is quite easy if you want to "blow out" the backdrop. In this scenario you are not covering much backdrop real estate; so it's pretty easy.

One person shot full length is a little more technically challenging, as you must light from head to toe; it requires a white back drop AND a white material for them to stand on.

A group of people requires a lot of (even diffusd) powerful light.

With your two backdrop lights you can easily light a head shot or head & shoulders portrait with a pure white back drop.

Full length one person? Doubtful unless you have very strong strobes and the ability to diffuse the light properly.
It IS do-able with careful placement of the strobes behind your subject and enough distance between the backdrop and the subject. (8-10 ft.) The trick here is to have both strobes fire at the back drop EVENLY with no overlap of the 2 strobes.
The further you move your subject from the backdrop, the more difficult it becomes to light evenly.

Group? Forget it. Not with 2 strobes.

John S advice is excellent. Blowing out a white back drop is quite easy in post processing and also very forgiving. (i.e) little chance of edge halo's.

Black is do-able but MUCH more difficult unless you have a firm grasp on post processing techniques. Msking, clipping paths etc...

Simply select the background, feather the selection to about (2) and raise the "levels" slider until it's pure white.
The selection process requires a little skill but easily mastered.
Some people prefer to use the "mask" tool for a nice smooth transition.

The bonus to this method is you can now "Select inverse" and exposure & color adjust the subjects.

If you need more help, feel free to email me for a better step by step proceedure.

all the best,

Pete

3/2/2008 5:36:19 PM

Pete H
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Corin,

Here's an example of the technique.

3/2/2008 5:47:33 PM

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Robert F. Wilson
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  87 .  Mamiya RZ67 Lenses
I have a question about attaching a lens to the RZ67 body. In the manual it states that the lens shutter needs to be cocked. It also states that when a lens is removed from the camera body, it is already cocked. When I look at the lens, the shutter cocking "pins" are at the green dot. how do you know if the lens shutter is cocked? I tried moving the pins to the red dot, but they do not stay and go back to the green dot. So does that mean the lens shutter is cocked?

2/27/2008 7:50:22 PM

Jon Close
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member since: 5/18/2000
  I think so. The manual says that the lens will not come off unless it has been cocked. Also that when the lens is cocked the pins will return to the green dot position and the shutter/aperture blades of the lens will remain fully open.

2/28/2008 6:19:06 AM

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Theresa M. Harter

member since: 2/21/2008
  88 .  How do you use a Macro Focusing Auto Zoom Lens
I have a Nikon N2000 and a Vivitar Series 1 70-210 1:35 Macro Focusing Auto Zoom lens and I would like to know how to use it in both telephoto and macro mode. I do not have an instruction manual for the lens.

2/21/2008 7:31:18 PM

Jon Close
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member since: 5/18/2000
  some helpful links:
http://www.robertstech.com/vivitar.htm
http://photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00LV1N

2/22/2008 5:34:07 AM

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Bob 

member since: 2/16/2008
  89 .  Photo paper size and availability
I have some landscape photos that were taken back in 1997 with a camera that offered what they called 'Panoramic' image size. The originals are printed on paper that measures 3 1/2 inches x 10 inches. I need to reprint a couple of the photos now that I am able to improve them with software. I have not seen this size paper anywhere, nor do any of the photo print places offer that size. I have an Epson Stylus Photo 820 printer. Any suggestions?

2/16/2008 12:14:02 PM

Gregory LaGrange
BetterPhoto Member
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member since: 11/11/2003
  8 1/2 x 11 available at a store near you.

2/16/2008 1:09:27 PM

Alan N. Marcus

member since: 3/4/2006
  Hi Bob,
Back then 35mm was king, I mean “The King”. Our thinking was, The photo industry needed a shot in the arm. 35mm is a wasteful format. The film is 35mm wide but the image area is only 24mm by 36mm. The reduced image is due to 35% wasted available film width eaten up by the sprocket holes. We didn’t need sprocket holes any more to transport film. Besides film-making had progressed, a 24mm wide film could make pictures better than 35mm could only 3 years before. The industry was ready for a new and improved format.

We went to PMA (Photo Marketing Association), in Los Vegas with high hopes. We planned a system – camera –film 24mm wide. The camera has three image size modes.
a. H for high definition 16.7mm by 30.2mm for an aspect ratio of 16:9 the same as HD TV prints to be 4 by 7.1.
b. C for classic 16.7mm by 25.1mm aspect ratio for 4 by 6 print
c. P for panoramic 9.5mm by 30.2mm aspect ratio for 4 by 12 prints.

The system was named APS for advanced photo System.

Now you might need to know that the full image was always recorded on the film. The image on the film never changes away from 16.7mm by 30.2mm. Only the view through the viewfinder changed. The idea was to signal the photofinishing printer and tell it to print a or b or c above. This was accomplished by using a film that contained a magnetic layer that could be recorded upon. The camera did its talking to film like a tape recorder. Oh what possibilities!. This film was and is in use in the movie arena. The magnetic layer was transparent; it did not harm the chemistry and image quality was first rate. The sound is fantastic. Why not have the film talk to the developing and printing machines? Besides this was to be baby steps into digital world. Now we had a film and a format that recorded optically and digitally at the same time.

It was a dismal failure. No one anticipated the explosion of chip logic that was to be incorporated into the 35mm camera. No one anticipated the explosion of the pure digital camera. We should have. Look at what happened to the home movie business. Even then you weren’t able to find 8mm or 16mm movie stuff at the camera shop?

You need to know:
Always the negatives that printed a panoramic size print using the APS system are not identifiable as panoramic; they look like full frame negative. You can scan them and crop them when you print. Use your digital editing software. Once scanned, you can size the images to fit standard size print papers.


Alan Marcus (at it again with gobbledygook)
ammarcus@earthlink.net

2/16/2008 3:29:25 PM

Christopher A. Walrath
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member since: 4/25/2006
  I would call the closest store that offers photographic papers and ask for pricing on custom cut sheets. You're looking for 3.5" by 10". Now they might do this because, they cut two strips out of a sheet of 8x10 and probably charge more for the cut up sheet less on inch along one edge than for the intact sheet. If going bulk, they might be willing to do it. Definitely worth the call. If not, then get your fav 8x10 and a paper cutter. Do it yourself. ("I use seagull 8x10 but I cut the size myself . . .") Could be fun. And the 1" x 10" that's left over, don't throw it away. Test strips, wierd UBER-panoramic prints. You could do anything creative with them. Have fun.

Thanks
Chris

2/17/2008 10:55:47 AM

Bob 

member since: 2/16/2008
 
 
 
Thank you for the suggestions. I hadn't thought about using 8x10,duh. Anyway, it does print, but due to amount of trees in the scene my printer oversaturates that portion of the photo with green. I assume I need to turn down the color saturation?, even though when I view the image it is fine.

2/23/2008 9:48:08 AM

Bob 

member since: 2/16/2008
  Thank you for the suggestions. I hadn't thought about using 8x10,duh. Anyway, it does print, but due to amount of trees in the scene my printer oversaturates that portion of the photo with green. I assume I need to turn down the color saturation?, even though when I view the image it is fine.

2/23/2008 9:50:41 AM

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  90 .  How to submit Portfolio for galleries and or sales
Have the photos, now looking for advice to submit to galleries for a show. Have heard advice from a few people. Each tells a different version. Need guidance in the right direction. How to submit. How many to submit, how often, what to submit. What will make me stand out more than another. Type of medium to submit, digital vs actual photos. Basically the whole nine yards and more.

2/14/2008 4:46:01 PM

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