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Beth W. DeBor
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  11 .  April EPs, Staff Favorites, & Finalists
The posts in this forum should only be related to EPs, SFs and Fs. Please start a new thread for anything else. Good luck!

3/30/2014 6:54:04 AM

  tag

4/3/2014 2:18:25 AM

  tag

4/3/2014 7:06:10 AM

  Add me to the list of lurkers... :-)

4/4/2014 7:42:43 AM

  Latched on ;)

UB.

4/6/2014 9:41:10 AM

  April 1 - From Paris with Love - Man-Made

UB.

4/8/2014 2:29:02 AM

  4/1..SKIPPED
4/2..EOD..Patterned Web

4/8/2014 4:11:59 AM

  Skipped the 1st...resub..apparently they don't like oob stuff...
Ep for the 2nd...

4/8/2014 7:00:36 AM

  I appreciate these posts as it lets me know where the judging is. April is a bust for me so far...

4/8/2014 5:12:37 PM

  4/3..Landscapes..Oh What A Night

4/10/2014 2:08:15 AM

  April 2 - Backlit Birdy - Digital Darkroom

UB.

4/10/2014 2:13:17 AM

  April 1 - Animals
Bird Dog

Nothing for the 2nd :(

4/10/2014 7:55:19 AM

Lola M.
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  Monarch and Zinnia
Monarch and Zinnia
 
 
4/2 Details and Macro

4/1 Skipped

4/10/2014 8:40:21 AM

  One for me at this point, April 2, EoD

Against the Wall

4/10/2014 10:25:52 AM

 
 
  Sempervivum
Sempervivum
Sempervivum, or "hens and chicks" succulent, "Kalinda" variety.
Minor adjustments in PS CC, converted to B&W with Topaz Black and White Effects 2.
 
 
4/1 Digital Darkroom

4/10/2014 10:46:42 AM

 
 
  Essence of Life
Essence of Life

Minor adjustments in PS CC.
 
 
4/2 Monthly Theme (Back to Basics)

4/10/2014 10:49:36 AM

Bob D. Hall
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  4/3 skipped
4/4 skipped

4/10/2014 3:42:41 PM

Ken Smith
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  Bob, don't give up on the 3rd or 4th just yet. From looking at the EP link (http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery-editors-current.asp), the latest EPs I've seen are from April 3rd. And no one has reported an EP for the 4th, on this thread.

A couple of days ago, folks were reporting EPs for the 2nd, but it took two more days before I got an EP for the 2nd. Meaning, you still might get an EP for third.

4/10/2014 4:43:24 PM

  Hope you're right, Ken. For now, I'm with Harriet -- 0 (for 10 in my case).

4/10/2014 5:04:30 PM

Bob D. Hall
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  Thanks, Ken!
I will not give up!

4/11/2014 7:53:32 AM

  I was looking at my entries for this month and realized that I don't know, with confidence, where to enter some of my shots. Elements of Design and Man Made are confusing to me. I still miss the Catch All category. It is like the junk drawer in the kitchen.....when in doubt, throw it into Catch All. This may have been a problem for BP,though.

4/11/2014 10:05:33 PM

  Just got one in the junk drawer - uhhh - Man Made category. Could have easily gone into T&P or, of course, C-A.

April 3
Door at Hacienda Martinez

But they skipped the 2nd which saddens but does not surprise me :)

4/13/2014 5:20:33 PM

  Got one for the 4th.....50% so far.. :-)

4/14/2014 5:03:39 PM

  Finally, on the boards. Elements of Design. 4-4-14 Happy dance! (not a pretty sight)

4/14/2014 5:47:48 PM

  4/4..Landscape..Early Morning Reflections

4/14/2014 6:06:04 PM

 
 
  Flirtation
Flirtation
Pink rose, in late day window light.
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4/3 Flowers

4/15/2014 6:53:05 PM

  Very flustered. Have entered 8 and not one EP. I thought I read form BB that they were going t be more generous again. I definately dont expect every shot that was the case a couple years ago but 0 for 8. thats aweful. Hopefully my photography isn't really that bad. Its of course just a hobby for me but still like to think I can occasionally take a photo that is ok.

4/17/2014 4:20:39 AM

  I think they are only up to the 4th, Jackie. Maybe yours were entered later than that.

4/17/2014 4:28:58 AM

Ken Smith
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  And hopefully they haven't finished with the 4th yet. :-)

4/17/2014 4:32:35 AM

  1st and 3rd for me, too, though a skip on the 4th wouldn't surprise me. I'm actually more interested in their going back for a second look at the March EP's :)

4/17/2014 7:08:14 AM

  Jackie, in my opinion you take more than the occasional photo that is better than ok. I wish we knew who does the judging and what they're judging on.

I haven't had an EP since the end of Feb. but in fairness to them, I stopped entering as a result of frustration and then entered two at the end of March which were both skipped. The one I entered so far in April is from the 4th.

4/17/2014 8:16:32 AM

Bob D. Hall
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  4/3 skipped
4/4 skipped
4/5 "Mating Season" Animals
4/6 "Bride In A Barn (Sepia)" People

4/17/2014 10:39:30 AM

  4/5..SKIPPED
4/6..Landscape..Winter Sunset On The Rocks
4/7..SKIPPED
4/8..Landscape..Snow And Ice And Some God Rays
4/9..Macro..Dew Tell

4/17/2014 12:01:21 PM

Lola M.
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  Yellow Sulphur
Yellow Sulphur
 
 
4/9 Details and Macro

6 skipped photos before this one

4/17/2014 12:15:52 PM

  Only two EP's so far this month. Discouraging. But, the month is not over yet!

4/17/2014 12:22:14 PM

 
 
  Radial
Radial

Echeveria "Sunburst", shot in late afternoon window light.
Minor adjustments in PS CC.
 
 
4/4 Elements of Design

4/17/2014 6:05:37 PM

  April 3 - Skipped
April 4 - Skipped
April 5 - Skipped
April 6 - Skipped
April 7 - A London Sunrise - T&P
April 8 - Skipped

And I have always loved the ones which are trend-breakers, April 7 in this case, lol!!!

UB.

4/17/2014 8:52:38 PM

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Donna R. Moratelli
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  12 .  photo size
Are the images on the site bigger now? They look huge!

3/22/2014 12:13:09 PM

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Jill Odice
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  13 .  Self Portraits
How fun! Jim sent out an email asking us to post Self Portraits! It is nice to see the faces behind the cameras :-)
http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/dynoGall2.asp?catID=444

3/20/2014 11:27:47 PM

  I didn't know, but I already see me there. Good idea BP, so we would be able to put a face behind the name too !!

UB.

3/21/2014 4:24:05 AM

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  Thanks Jill and Usman - fun to see your faces for sure!!!

3/22/2014 2:04:40 PM

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Arleen H. McDaniel
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  14 .  Aperture Priority mode
 
  living room chairs
living room chairs
aperture priority, 1/60 sec, 18-55mm, indoors, Arleen McDaniel, Mid day, etc.
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With the camera setting on Aperture Priority , I set the setting No problem but the camera does not seem to do its part and the pictures often turn out fairly dark. This in indoor shooting
Arleen McDaniel

3/19/2014 10:46:51 AM

Gregory LaGrange
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  It would've done that on shutter priority. The meter measures relative brightness of the different parts of what ever the metering area is reflecting back at it. A very bright spot like outside area will shift what it thinks the exposure needs to be to under exposed end.
Like being outside and suddenly looking at a white object that hurts your eyes. The sun didn't get brighter, you looked at an area that reflected more light than the overall scene.
If they're turning out dark all the time, like when you're outside, then you might have the exposure compensation accidentally set to under expose. You can check that to be sure.

3/19/2014 5:19:01 PM

Christopher J. Budny
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  You may also need to check what metering mode your camera is set to (if it has the ability to choose from different ones like Spot, Center-Weighted, Evaluative.)
For instance, if you were set to Spot, and the actual spot being metered was outside that window, then this shot is exposed accordingly -- notice how the outside is not blown out? The trees are all well defined/exposed... being so much brighter out there, than in the room, if the outside drove your metering, the inside ends up very underexposed as you have here. Conversely, if you had exposed for say, the chair, you likely would have blown out much of the detail in the yard outside.

3/20/2014 5:52:40 AM

  Thank you for the feedback, In your opinion what would be the best metering setting in this situation?

3/20/2014 6:07:51 AM

Christopher J. Budny
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  For a single photograph of this scene, you'd have to decide which elements mattered most. If the goal is to show the room & chairs, properly exposed, you will lose a bit (or much of) the exterior to blow-out. But given the big expanse of brightness in the center of your scene, I'd try Evaluative/Overall metering. Also, if you had sheers on those windows, closing them might help cut the light a bit, and balance out the overall lighting in the room.
Another option would be to take 2 identical shots on a tripod; one exposed for the yard, one exposed for the room, and blend those together (in software) for a composite result.

3/20/2014 6:59:46 AM

Gregory LaGrange
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  You also have spot metering or the exposure compensation. One may feel smoother to use than the other. The location of the spot meter button on my camera isn't as easy as using the dial on the back to use exposure compensation. It's easy to keep the camera up and use my thumb and keep looking at the info in the viewfinder.
So for me, I would use the evaluative with exposure comp when keeping it on an auto exposure setting. It's one choice, you may like another.

3/20/2014 7:17:11 AM

  I will do some playing with both of these, I seem to have better luck with Manual setting, I will send the results I really appreciate the imformation

3/20/2014 12:14:13 PM

  This is a challenging exposure situation, for sure! I agree with those who discussed using spot or center-weighted metering if you wanted to get proper exposure on the furniture in the room. The outdoors would appear blown-out by comparison, but that's not always a bad thing. Another alternative is to utilize HDR software to get the best exposure in all areas. You must shoot several exposures of the scene and combine them with the HDR software, PhotoMatix is one.

3/27/2014 6:47:09 PM

 
 
 
I have played around some with the different aspects and think the forum has been helpful and appreciate the feed back
Arleen

3/28/2014 8:55:11 AM

 
 
  14421808  forum picture
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AP 1 sec f/16 100
18-55mm at 35
 
  14421809 forum picture
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AP 10 sec f/16 200 +2 exp
18-55mm at 35mm
 
 
Having trouble getting the pictures in exposure +2 and HDR
arleen

3/28/2014 9:35:11 AM

 
 
 
Here are a couple of the play around learning pictures
Arleen

3/28/2014 9:38:09 AM

 
 
 
Here are a couple of the play around learning pictures
Arleen

3/28/2014 9:38:09 AM

  Hi Arleen, The image at the bottom is the better of the two in terms of exposure on the furniture. The outdoor area is a little blown out. Your comment suggests that you have HDR software. If so, just keep experimenting with it. For best results, you'll need to shoot some exposures over, at your camera's recommended exposure, and several under.

3/28/2014 9:48:40 AM

Gregory LaGrange
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  You could use that situation as an opportunity to learn about using flash to get a better balance of light between the inside and outside.
Bounce flash off the ceiling to bring the lighting ratios closer together.

3/29/2014 10:01:35 AM

  I HAVEN'T DEALT MUCH WITH LIGHTING YET, I HAVE THE EXTRA LIGHT, BUT HAVE NOT USED IT MUCH BUT AM TRYING TO WORK EACH DAY ON SOME ASPECT, THE CLASS THAT I HAVE SIGNED US I THINK WILL BE COVERING SOME ON LIGHTING, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR FEEDBACK & REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF THE OF THE FEED BACK I HAVE RECEIVED .
ARLEEN

3/31/2014 1:29:01 PM

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Jessica Jenney
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  15 .  Man Made category
I see the "Catch-all" category has been replaced with "Man Made". I see many images that are not man made just to let you know.

3/18/2014 3:23:46 PM

  HELLO BP!! Shouldn't you let us know when you are changing a category? When was this effective? Next month's contest, I have to assume. What does this mean?? Wouldn't man made apply to some of the same stuff that goes in EOD, or what about DD? I know I'm baffled. Please let us know!!

3/18/2014 3:55:33 PM

  Holy Cow!!!
Yet another change!
I just noticed! Sheesh!
I have also seen things that are obviously NOT man-made. I guess I've missed the memo regarding this change!
I might have entered differently had I known this was going to take place.
Perhaps BP should just put the catch-all category back, and ADD this as a new category.....I dunno!

Signed,
Flabbergasted & Frustrated !!

3/18/2014 7:24:53 PM

Ken Smith
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  I think we need to see how this pans out. I've already put several photos into the "Catch All" category, and when I check my Contest Entries, they're still listed as "Catch All." And there are tons of Catch All photos that aren't applicable for Man-Made category.

This could be a simple mistake, or perhaps meant for next month. If BP does make the change from Catch All to Man Made, I hope they make it effective next month, and put out some guidance on what this category is...or isn't. Otherwise, half of the contest submissions will be mis-categorized.

3/18/2014 8:03:33 PM

  Here's the current definition of "Catch-All". "Man-made" seems to apply to the first type ("transportation") only, leaving the rest without a home. I can see that they might want to refine if the category were overrun, but it actually has fewer entries than N&L.

Plus while I've used the term myself on a recent image, I do object to the term MAN-made. :)

Catch-All
This is the place for any image that doesn't fit into one of the other nine categories. Examples include still-life, motion-blur, black and white. If you have an photo that you love (that doesn't seem to fit into the other categories), enter it into this category. Please do not put photos into this category that could fit into another category. This category is for:
Transportation - trains, planes, cars, etc.
Motion blur and long-exposure zoomed images
Painting with light
Black and white images.
Still-life
Bokeh and other special effects

3/18/2014 8:19:57 PM

  Thanks Jessica for letting us all know. You keep a close eye on the contest mecanics:)

Sure would have loved had BP informed us on the change of name with some specific details as to what kind of images are suitable in this new category. I would say a lot of architecture and transportation images would fall under this.

Looking forward to Team BP's elaboration/explanation on this new category.

UB.

3/19/2014 12:12:46 AM

  I hope they add Catch All back, because frankly, most of what I shoot only fits in this category... Where are tabletop/still life shots suppose to go now? This seems like a weird choice for a category... I don't shoot in b/w but I have always thought that would make a great one...

3/19/2014 4:59:33 AM

  LOLOL I was just thinking the other day in connection with another competition what a good idea it was when BP switched, years ago, to Catch-All as a final category since it broadened rather than narrowing.

I'm with others who say there are many subjects that will now be left without a home. If the problem is people putting a flower or a bird picture, for example, in C-A rather than Flowers or Animals, it can be solved much more simply. Just don't give it an EP or, if you do because you really don't pay that much attention to category on the first round (quite acceptable, IMO), make sure it does not go on.

3/19/2014 6:29:33 AM

  Martha, I'm with you - MAN-made doesn't cut it for me, either. Last time I checked I wasn't one, so guess I won't be using that category any more!

3/19/2014 6:30:39 AM

  Yes indeed, we really need BP's definition of what the new category means and a list of which types of photography are no longer welcome (see Kara's post). Do they mean what other sites call Digital Art (in camera or by PP)? Architecture? A bird on a telephone pole? A flower garden? Anything human? All require the intervention of "Man". For that matter, what if the subject was made by ((shudder)) a Woman?

And I agree with Martha: you'd think by 2014 it'd be routine to use inclusionary vocabulary. Why an insensitive title which ignores over half the membership even if that wasn't the intent? Since only BP knows what the category includes, it's pointless to suggest alternatives until they share that information with us.

Finally, what the heck was wrong with "Catch All"?

3/19/2014 6:42:39 AM

 
Perhaps their intention is/was to
INCLUDE a category of Man Made
and not take Catch All away at all....maybe it's just a glitch.

3/19/2014 7:07:55 AM

  To me it sounds like a great title for the Monthly Theme category. Man Made - infinite choice of images. I think its just a simple mistake. And, by the way, everywhere else on the website there is still Catch All category. But until this issue is cleared I won't put anything into Catch All. Too bad. I did not submit anything yesterday because of that.

3/19/2014 7:14:57 AM

  Must be a mistake. Yes, sounds as though it's really meant as a theme? Makes absolutely no sense as a category. And, of course, not "man" made but "human" made is the obvious term that reflects reality.

3/19/2014 10:21:04 AM

  Maybe it is a mistake and 'Man Made' is supposed to be a future monthly theme. This month's theme was 'Creativity' but has reverted back to February's theme, 'Wild Color'.

3/19/2014 12:17:12 PM

James Miotke
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  Hello awesome friends,

Man-made will be the new category starting in April, replacing Catch-all. It will be:

* Architecture
* Transportation (planes, trains and automobiles)
* Industry

Still-life photography should go into Details & Macro. Motion blur will likely go into Elements of Design.

Don't worry about this change for the rest of February. And if you enter awesome pictures of architecture, industry, and transportation... that will be cool too. The judges will be flexible for this month.

We have so many improvements happening... I can't tell you how excited I am.

If there is dust from all the construction work, please excuse and forgive.

It's been a long time since we updated BetterPhoto to this extent.

Since it's BetterPhoto's 18th birthday next week, it's a great time for improvements.

Thanks,
Jim

P.S. Yes, the theme is "Creativity" (I've just fixed that bug).

And let me say, I've peeked at what is coming in and it's awesome.

More details as soon as I can...

3/19/2014 4:08:44 PM

Gregory LaGrange
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  "A bird on a telephone pole? A flower garden? Anything human? All require the intervention of "Man". For that matter, what if the subject was made by ((shudder)) a Woman?"

The poles would be crooked.

3/19/2014 5:03:00 PM

  Thanks Jim for your information/clarification on the new category.

Its great to know that BP is going to be 18 next week!!! WOW. I have been associated with it regularly since the last 5-6 years and have loved every second of it. Wishing BP and BPers many more years of success and growth and fun and learning.

UB.

3/19/2014 7:56:15 PM

James Miotke
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  Thank you so much, Usman!

And thanks, Gregory:

A) You're funny!

B) I realized as I was driving away after posting that previous comment that I forgot to mention:

This doesn't mean that you Nature & Landscape photos can't have any sign of humans in them. The other categories can of course have man-made stuff. It's just an umbrella term for those very popular subjects of architecture, transportation, industry.

It's all about what is the primary value of the photo. The main concept or core essence. Bird on a pole... it's about the animal. Flower garden... it's about the flowers, even if a person made it.

And we're using "man" in the universal sense meaning man and woman...

...but children would still go in the people category (if that is the primary subject of the photo).

:)

Thanks,
Jim

3/20/2014 7:09:44 AM

  :( Jim, to you, "Man" may be universal, but in the 21st century "Man" feels exclusionary for many of us. You're celebrating BP's 18th birthday in what to me (and probably some others) is an unfortunately negative way even if that's not your personal perception.

You used "Industry" in your list, which would also cover "Architecture" and "Transportation". So why not use it instead?

Then again, there's always Catch-All ...

3/20/2014 9:06:46 AM

  Kay, I was of those "rabble-rousers" who worked hard to rid the planet of exclusionary language like this way back in the '60s, and happily, most of it (at least from public organizations, businesses and such) has gone by the boards. Truly sorry to see it here.

3/20/2014 9:48:18 AM

  Yes, I would agree with Kay in all regards here, Jim. And Monnie as well. The use of "man-made" is exclusionary and inappropriate. The change to this category, and the dumping of Catch-All, and, really, your explanation of where things would go, all simply do not make any sense to me at all no matter how I might try to twist them in my mind to make them somehow seem reasonable. I cannot fathom what the reason for such an incredibly strange category change would be, from anyone's point of view, BP's or ours. WHY???

3/20/2014 9:55:47 AM

Gregory LaGrange
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  Ahh, the imperative of the perpetual victim. Human has hu MAN in it. Can't say that.

3/20/2014 4:37:23 PM

  Mitch couldn't have spoken my ideas any better! A tiny flower should still be able to go into macro. Why? BECAUSE THEY DON'T WIN IN FLOWERS! Yet, still life is now supposed to go into macro? So how is macro going to defined now that larger things are to go in this category??? Jim - I mean no disrespect but this is one of the most incomprehensible decisions I've seen yet and makes no sense at all to me or to anyone I've talked to.

3/20/2014 9:18:18 PM

  LOL, you are too much, Gregory! On a lighter note, I see a Man in WoMAN too. Check this out, someone listed all the English words in the lexicon which had man somewhere inside it including roMANtic !!!

http://www.morewords.com/contains/man/

By the way, I agree with what Mitch said above, I also fail to understand the need to take away Catch-All category and replace it with a new category which caters to just some of the subject content covered by the new category, whatever we may finally call it? What will this intends to accomplish?

UB.

3/20/2014 9:18:44 PM

  It was so nice and easy. Now I am getting more and more confused about this change(not a good feeling): Where do the Black and White images go? They used to belong in the Catch-All category. I have a couple of B&W floral macro photos.Where should I submit them? May be in the Elements of Design? Would it be a good idea to have a B&W category as well? At least this would eliminate some confusion

3/21/2014 8:07:36 AM

  I have always put black and white images in whatever category suited their subject and they have done just fine: black and white flowers in Flowers; black and white animals in Animals. etc. I would not mind a separate bw category BUT I would NOT want that to mean a black and white of a person could not be put into People if I felt it was more competitive there.

I still want to cast a vote for no change.

3/21/2014 8:31:04 AM

  Amen to all the above. I agree with the no change idea.

3/21/2014 9:41:18 AM

  In the new categories, where do action/sports fit?

3/21/2014 10:01:46 AM

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  Jim, I agree with everyone too; let's keep Catch All. It's been one of your more popular categories over the years. And it keeps it simple for people who aren't sure what category to choose. No anguish on where to place their photos.

Perhaps "Man-Made" could be the next Monthly Theme and you can reevaluate based on the interest the theme may generate.

3/21/2014 10:20:03 AM

  I'd like to add my vote to keep "Catch-All" as a category as well. Man-Made can be a wonderful separate category that would be great to have. Or a monthly theme. But please don't replace Catch-all!

3/21/2014 10:53:14 AM

  I also vote for keeping the Catch-All category. If its not broken don't fix it.

3/21/2014 12:58:13 PM

  So where do abstracts go now?

3/21/2014 2:16:45 PM

James Miotke
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  I hear you and I'm going to stick with the new category definition. Yes, some people may like how Catch-all can be a place to put a photo when you're not sure how it goes. But the sad truth is that too many photos the judges see in Catch-all clearly belong in another category such as People or Nature/Landscapes.

To answer your questions:

Abstracts go into Elements of Design.

B&W go into Digital Darkroom (since 99% of us or more do our Black and White in software rather than by using film). Same thing with Infrared.

Bokeh will also go into Elements of Design.

Thank you,
Jim

3/21/2014 2:36:38 PM

  Thanks you very much and very sincerely for the input, Jim. I can only say that I hope that the "judges" will also expand their parameters. Many nature shots are not flashy, wide-angle landscapes or seascapes. Are they now going to stand a chance in N&L? I would love that :) And many floral images are not tight, fill-the-frame, close-ups of flowers. Will they now be given serious consideration in Flowers? That would be way cool as they say. As for b&w in Digital Darkroom, it's long been my feeling that if the digital work isn't in-your-face, an entry hardly has a chance there. Will this change, too? And are you saying that all black and white images must go in DD? What about sepia toned images - are they now unwelcome in other categories? Or what if the tones of choice are blue?

I don't want or mean to sound contentious, but if an image is, in the judges' opinion, mis-categorized, it's their prerogative to pass it by. Simple as that. Got an animal ion People? Skip it. There's no need to juggle the categories in what I am quite sure will be a vain attempt to simplify things for the judges while, at the same time, complicating them for the entrants.

3/21/2014 2:59:15 PM

  Amen Nikki! And Jim - if you are still reading this be aware that a lot of the changes being recently made here have driven good, competitive photographers away. I can't imagine that that is your goal. If it is your aim to restore BP to its former prestige, you might want to consider what we are all saying because we are the voice of those who financially support BP and the voice of those potential new BP'ers who may think the contest definitions are too confusing. They will move on just as many have already done.

I think most of BP would agree that an improperly entered image should just be skipped. Simple. No confusion. We want simplicity in our photos for maximum impact. Seems logical to me that that might be a good idea for business policy too.

I challenge you to send out a survey. You may or may not be surprised at he results, but acting on the consensus of the results just might prove to be a wise business move.

Thanks for listening.

3/21/2014 4:20:01 PM

Gregory LaGrange
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  Usman, check out this out. You might find it interesting

http://therationalmale.com/2013/05/06/remove-the-man/

Once the panic goes away people will see that it's not going to be such a hard thing. Like all the other times. Nobody's ended up in the hospital yet.
Sepia or periwinkle toned it's still a duo toned picture. Same as black and white. That's not confusing. A portrait can be done to fit into a monthly theme. There's always been an amount of flexibility in choosing a category.

3/21/2014 4:32:08 PM

  Again, where would sports/action fit?

3/21/2014 5:06:01 PM

  People?

3/21/2014 5:08:54 PM

  Gregory....were you born with a level on your head? :-)

3/21/2014 6:47:03 PM

  I always use the alternate image uploader, and when I tried to submit the image to the Man-Made category, it wasn't listed in the drop down box. However, it did still show the Catch-All category. I'm waiting for this to get straightened out.

3/22/2014 7:17:57 AM

  Brenda, As Jim wrote above the Man Made category will begin in April and then the drop down box will reflect that.

3/22/2014 7:01:07 PM

  Thanks, Jessica.

3/22/2014 10:40:38 PM

  A still-life which includes, for instance, china and silverware, sounds like it would fit in a category called "Man-Made".

But Jim, above, defined the new category as for:

* Architecture
* Transportation (planes, trains and automobiles)
* Industry

A clearer category name would help encourage the desired usage. I like Kay's idea of "Industry"; I would suggest further refining it to "Industry and Architecture".

Also if the usage of "Digital Darkroom" is changing, what about calling it "Special Effects" to include other techniques like motion blur and bokeh?

3/23/2014 8:56:23 AM

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  Martha, when I first joined BP in 2005, they had Special Effects category. It included things like motion-blur, nighttime photography, IR (and I'm referring to true IR, versus using software IR filters), etc. Basically, in-camera effects versus those created via digital effects. Then in Nov 2007, BP changed "Special Effects" to "Catch All."

I remember seeing a description of the 10 categories. I thought it was on the Contest page; e.g., "About our contest Categories", but didn't see it.

But even then, it's still subjective and we just need to give it our best shot when we categorize our contest photos. And have fun with it.

3/23/2014 9:32:40 AM

  Is this the description you were looking for, Ken?

http://www.betterphoto.com/contest/categories.asp

I'm not sure if many people know about this list, or if they have studied it thoroughly. That's why I think the category name itself should be as explicit as possible.

3/23/2014 9:43:49 AM

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  Yes, that's the one. Where on the Contest page did you find it?

3/23/2014 11:33:17 AM

  The only way I'm ever able to find it is to search on "contest categories" which leads to the forum question to which I posted this link, some time back. I can't remember how I found it originally.

3/23/2014 11:34:56 AM

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  Thanks, Martha. Hopefully BP can post something like this on the main contest page, when they start the new category.

3/23/2014 12:03:20 PM

Gregory LaGrange
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  Right bleow where Jim says what goes in "Man Made" he says where your still life of silverware goes. Details and macro.

3/23/2014 1:24:43 PM

  Yes Gregory. That's what I refer to above. My point is that not every member examines every forum thread in detail. The contest category name itself should clearly describe what topics the judges expect it to contain. The "Contest Categories" page clearly describes what kind of photos belong in "Catch-All", too, but according to Jim, the judges are bothered and confused by the fact that these guidelines are not being followed. To me, "Man-Made" is almost as vague as "Catch-All".

3/23/2014 2:03:41 PM

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  What's missing is on the page with the drop down menus, under the "contest" header there should be either a link that drops down for categories, or make it part of the guidelines page. That seems like it would be a routine thing.
However, you can't hold every hand if as Jim described that they were seeing far too many photos in a Catch All category that were clear to them belonged in another. I don't think the judges were confused, just seeing too many in the wrong place. If there's a person that has a macro of a flower and can't decide to put it in the flower category, then you'll have people who will have a fashion portrait and will be stymied by not being able to make a decision if industry includes the fashion industry, or is it just smokestacks and steel.
There's a small ice covered tree branch in Elements of design. I say it should be in nature. If that person made the choice based on the lines the branches make, more power to them. If there was some confusion, I don't think you can make it any clearer outside of telling them directly.

3/23/2014 3:50:34 PM

  How about:
1. Plants
2. Animals
3. People
4. Black and White
5. Bug and Butterflies
6. Landscapes with No People
7. Architecture
8. Macro
9. Cityscapes
10. Elements of Design
11. Catch All

3/23/2014 7:14:39 PM

  I find this information also very helpful and informative for the contest.

http://www.betterphoto.com/contest/guidelines.asp

UB.

3/23/2014 10:31:49 PM

  Maybe we don't need categories at all and BP could just give 1 grand prize, 10 1st place and 100 2nd place badges? It's not possible to explain all possibilities under categories, anyway, thus, people will still keep asking if a photo of a bug on a rose in a vase should go to animals, flowers, details & macro or elsewhere. Catch-all sounded universal for whatever kinds of photos, but now, if this category will be changed, confusion will only increase.

3/24/2014 1:22:59 AM

  I agree with Tiia :-) There are so many times when I just cannot decide where to put my images and now that we are not supposed to resubmit them it makes it tougher. In the past if I put something in one category and it did not get an EP I would put it in a different category at a later date. Usually it would get an EP sooner or later :-) I agree with what Nikki said earlier also. Sometimes I have an image that for example is a macro flower that I turned into a black and white, do I put in under flowers which has lots more entries,macro and detail, or DD because I made it B/W? If there were no categories images would be judged on their worthiness...The only other thing would be the monthly or weekly theme...? Just my 2 cents worth ...

3/24/2014 8:46:04 AM

  Not that anything we say will affect the final decision, but just thinking about the flip side of "no categories" . . . One thing a flower category (for example) does is assure a nice number of floral themed Finalists and Winners - even if the judge(s) don't happen to like flowers at all.

3/24/2014 8:51:42 AM

  Although I also don't think anything we say will make any difference at all in what's eventually done, I do want to make a point about black and white. I believe BP is suggesting that because we use software to convert to B&W, this somehow makes those images digital-darkroom-category appropriate, just because of the conversion. However, I feel, as Nikki has mentioned, that black and white images should go in whatever category their subject indicates is right, not the fact that they're monotone. The fact that software is used for the conversion doesn't really have to do with a digital-darkroom category; after all, software in the digital-photography age is used for absolutely everything, including taking the picture originally with the camera's software.

3/24/2014 9:46:22 AM

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  Good discussion, everyone. I'll take these ideas into consideration.

3/24/2014 10:18:28 AM

  Thanks for watching the discussion and keeping an open mind, Jim.

I had been thinking about something Jill mentioned ... resubs. I understand the reasoning behind discouraging resubs, but with categories changing, and increased scrutiny of whether the image was submitted in the correct category (which is confusing), it seems fair to allow participants to resub the image in another category. Not sure how BP could police that (of course, I'm not sure if/how it is currently policed), but again, it seems fair to allow at least limited resubs in another category.
Just my thoughts. Thanks for considering all of our opinions.

3/24/2014 10:48:22 AM

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  "It's not possible to explain all possibilities under categories..."

Yeah, they call that freedom. Run to it.

3/24/2014 10:52:09 AM

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  Since digital is new enough that most people have used a hour lab in their picture taking lives, I can understand where Jim would say put all black and white in Digital Darkroom. Anybody who did black and white before, good chance they had a darkroom while everybody else had a machine cranking out color pictures.
So I can see how he relates that to converting what comes out color in a digital camera to digital darkroom. But I do agree that the subject has as much weight as a color picture when a person makes their category choice. Not everything works as a black and white, just from converting it.

3/24/2014 11:23:49 AM

  How about having another listing under each category so there will be fewer questions as to where things should go.

I like to review the submissions and I wonder quite often why something was placed where it was.

Oh, well.....things will sort out!

3/26/2014 11:13:48 AM

  Some of you good folk make my depression feel better. Now as a Human-kind I can just ignore the sticky-outy-thingy I have in front and know that there are some fighting for every one of our rights. Let political correctness take over the whole world I say! :0) (thought I had better put the silly thing in as you might not recognize male-chauvanist sarcasm)

3/26/2014 12:38:09 PM

  I just noticed the change. I can understand having a Man Made category but I hardly think that a still life should be in details and macro. The old catch all was a great category. If it ain't broken, why fix it? I don't do many still life photos but I do have some that don't seem to fit anywhere so the Catch All was perfect for me. Oh well.... I only take the photos. What do I know?

3/28/2014 8:08:45 PM

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  The decision has been made:

1) I'm going to keep the new category... "man-made" really means "person-made" and refers to transportation, architecture, industry, etc.

And 2...

(good news coming...)

(you're going to like this...)

(ok you're going to love this...)

Resubmits are allowed.

3/31/2014 3:26:03 PM

  YAY! We need our resubmits..especially since some have been doing it anyway. Happy Happy Happy!

3/31/2014 3:33:48 PM

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  I thought I noticed that ;)

3/31/2014 3:35:46 PM

  It's my age folks; I don't think I will enter any more competitions. Too many changes for me to....um, 'person-age'.

3/31/2014 4:34:40 PM

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  Thanks, Jim on publicly saying that resubmits are now allowed. Contest judging is subjective and this will be a nice step "back to basics" for the contest.

3/31/2014 4:42:38 PM

  Terrific news about the resubs! Thanks, Jim!

3/31/2014 5:22:52 PM

  Some changes I like, some I don't and some I don't understand. I like the resubmit change but I don't understand the Man Made category replacing Catch All. Right now I can't think of a change I don't like so that's a good thing.

3/31/2014 7:01:16 PM

  Yay on allowing the resubs, Jim.

Is it possible to redo the page on the categories by listing subjects allowed under each one? This will be easier for all of the members and I am sure for the Judges too.

UB.

3/31/2014 9:36:31 PM

  When I uploaded my image this morning (using the basic uploader), some of the category names included qualifiers indicating what belonged there. Nice!

4/1/2014 6:39:29 AM

  Planning out my April entries (yes, though I swap out if I get one I can't wait to upload sometime during the month, I mostly plan a month in advance). I cannot tell you how much I miss Catch-All. Argggggg

4/1/2014 8:53:58 AM

  And since I've already entered today, I can't see the drop-down menu. Can someone else notice when entering whether there is an Abstract/Graphics category? If so, does it replace Elements of Design? I just read through the descriptions under categories and stumbled on mention of this category which is new to me.

4/1/2014 8:58:56 AM

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  Nikki, I've already uploaded and going off of memory, but I think "Elements" was still there. Elements is still one of the categories on the "Recently Entered" contest page. I don't recall reading anything about Elements being renamed to Abstract/Graphics. Earlier in this thread, Jim M did say that abstracts could go into Elements category.

4/1/2014 10:05:42 AM

  Here's the link from My Member Center - How to Categorize
http://www.betterphoto.com/contest/categories.asp

Note that
-cityscapes is still under N&L but is also specifically listed under Man Made
-EoD is still listed and says "extreme digital creations do not belong in this category" which would preclude many of the distortion abstracts people create, imo
-DD is still there but says it is NOT for "Photos that have such a subtle application of photo-editing techniques that one cannot tell any post-processing work has been done which was my point earlier - if it's not in your face, it won't fly there
-D&M still sounds as if it's for very close-ups but
-Man Made is NOT for

a. Bokeh, Painting with light, and motion blur photos belong in the "Abstract/Graphics" category
b. Black and white, and partially-colored photos belong in the "Digital Darkroom" category
c. Still-life photos, if they don't fit into any other category, belong in the "Details" category

Very confusing to me. And leaving me quite unhappy with the category choices I have to make on some images.

4/1/2014 10:21:39 AM

  And I really want to know if they seriously think all black and white photos should go in DD. Since I love black and white and think it's quite possible for a bw image to compete on an equal footing with color images, I do think the subject should determine the category. Which would mean a bw building or train that was not EoD or Graphics would go in Man Made, not in DD.

4/1/2014 12:09:13 PM

  After reading your posts, Nikki, my first thought about black and white being in the Digital Darkroom category is, where would Ansel Adams put his photos if he was a member of BP? Infrared, yes. Black and white, no. I think we have gotten too complicated. Again, if it is not broken, why the fix?

4/1/2014 12:46:36 PM

James Miotke
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  Harriet, it is broken from our perspective.

One note about black and white: as before, you can continue to enter them into ANY category. If it's an amazing photo of a person or an cat or a cityscape, feel free to enter it into the People, Animals, or Man-made categories.

OR you can enter it in Digital Darkroom, if you really zipped around Nik or Photoshop etc to create it.

Have fun.

4/1/2014 5:00:15 PM

  I can see where, as judges, it can be frustrating when photos are obviously in the wrong category. I can see where the
catch all could have gotten huge because it was an easy place if one could not decide. We will just have to do the best we can to put entries in the correct categories and hope for the best. Thanks for the clarification. I like the contest. First of all, it is free for members. Secondly, it is digital so no printing and framing and thirdly, it does help us improve. I have enjoyed the few years I have participated.

4/1/2014 6:30:41 PM

  Part of life these days! Changes!

4/1/2014 6:56:38 PM

  Thank you, especially for the clarification on the black and white images, Jim. That was a big question for me and I'm pleased to know they can go in any category.

4/1/2014 7:22:34 PM

  Yeah Linda, the only CONSTANT in life they say is CHANGE!!!

UB.

4/1/2014 8:40:19 PM

  I was keen to know the final word on the category choices for the Black and White images, great to know it remains as flexible as it was – Thanks, Jim for the clarification!!

4/1/2014 10:30:00 PM

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  16 .  Sizing for upload to Better Photo
I have noticed that my images loaded to Better Photo do not appear sharp. What settings should I be using when I export them from Lightroom?

3/17/2014 7:04:45 PM

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  Speaking from my own experience, after I make all my edits in my full-size file, I make another file just for my BP upload. In my BP file, I re-size it down to 800 pixels on the long edge (sometimes adding additional sharpening at this stage, if the image needs it.) That is the file I then use to upload (never the full-size file) and I've never encountered a perceived softening when I view the uploaded image.

3/20/2014 5:56:12 AM

James Miotke
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  That is a great procedure, Chris.

I will tell you that I recommend trying it at 1600 px on the long end.

Please, if you have chance, try that out and let me know if it works well for you.

The 1600 will come in very handy in the near future.

Thanks,
Jim

3/20/2014 7:03:06 AM

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  Hi Jim, I do the same as Chris; always resize to 800. That's because I thought the BP process would take any uploaded image greater than 800 pixels, and downsize them to 800 for display. For example, if I upload an image at 1600 x 1066, the BP process would downsize to 800 x 533. Rather than having the BP process downsize, we just do it ourselves, sharpen, then upload.

Your comment about "1600 will come in very handy in the near future". Reading between the lines, I'm hoping you're saying that soon, BP will allow for the display of images up to 1600 pixels. That would be super! I've seen many great pano shots that lose impact, because of the 800 pixel limitation.

Thanks for chiming in on the forum. Great dialogue!

3/20/2014 7:57:30 AM

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  Nudge, nudge, wink, wink... wonderful things are in the works :)

3/20/2014 8:04:06 AM

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  Excellent! Thanks, Jim!

3/20/2014 8:30:38 AM

  I know BP images are right click protected, but of course there is no way any site can protect against screen captures. Is a screen capture of an image that was resized to 1600 on the long side any more or less vulnerable to being "borrowed" and used without permission than one that was resized to 800 on the long side?

3/20/2014 9:07:35 AM

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  You'd get a screenshot with 4x the pixels... so someone looking to use/print your images without your consent, from a screengrab, has more data to play with now.
ie, an 800x533 display today, could become a 1600 x 1066 display, if this is one of the new features coming at BP... The 800 grab would yield (at assumed 300dpi printing) 2.6" x 1.8" print. The 1600 grab would yield a 5.3" x 3.5" print. Of course, printing those on a lower-than-300 dpi printer one could end up with potentially even larger, workable print sizes.
I'd guess that if we get to an enhancement allowing say, 1600 pixel display, then many folks will probably want to expand their use of watermark signatures, and run them through the center of the image.

3/20/2014 9:24:59 AM

  My rule of thumb has been to upload photos at 900 on the long side (and about half that on Facebook) simply because should they be "stolen" the best anybody could get would be a 4 x 6 print, if that. Just for grins I just captured a friend's photo from today (which I've already deleted, of course) that shows at 875 x 579. I resized it to twice that and I'm able to get a decent-sized print. Imagine how good it would be if I'd been able to download it at 1600. Think I'll stick with smaller sizing here just to be on the safe side.

3/20/2014 9:41:58 AM

  I also do the same as Chris and Ken explained above, Virginia. I have a question .... will be actual size we see on our monitors will be any different than what we see now? If the size doubles, lets just assume, does it mean we have to scroll each entry to see the complete image, which sometimes is tedious to do and takes the fun out of seeing the image as a whole!

UB.

3/20/2014 9:09:08 PM

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  Usman, when I first joined BP in 2005, we could display images in their full resolution. Or at least up to 2000 pixels, because I have some that large in my gallery. But the thumbnail was the same size as today, 210 pixels on the large side. So, I don't think BP will change the default size of the thumbnails.

3/21/2014 3:51:04 AM

  Sorry for not being very clear, Ken. But my query was actually relating to the full blown image itself and not the thumbnail.

UB.

3/21/2014 3:58:26 AM

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  Usman, I don't know. I guess we'll just have to see, if/when BP makes the size change. I don't recall it being a big deal when I first joined.

3/21/2014 6:32:12 AM

  I haven't seen resolution mentioned. Should it be 72 ppi?

3/21/2014 7:45:27 AM

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  Usman, if the display size is 1600, if you have a wide format monitor than it should fit.

3/21/2014 5:07:59 PM

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  Hi awesome BetterPhoto members,

The largest images on display will likely be around 1000 px on the long end.

The decision as to how much you do to protect images is up to you. I can only tell you want I do... I size my images to 1600px in case we ever develop the functionality that would allow me to print my images (on paper or in books or on coffee mugs, etc)... or sell such images. I doubt BetterPhoto will do the latter but it may do the former.

If you are concerned about image sizes being so big that thieves will steal your photos, you may opt to downsize the image to 800px on the long end before uploading (or whatever size you want).

The choice is totally up to you.

And yes, Virginia, I still change my image resolution to 72ppi before rechecking the resize checkbox and then set the width or height to what I prefer. In Photoshop, you can use the Fit Image automation (or a few other methods) to get this done while you're making yourself a cup of tea.

Usman, I'm thinking about making the image thumbnails on the gallery index pages a little bigger. I'm talking about pages like: http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/dynoGall2.asp?catID=296&cn=Cute-Babies-and-Baby-Pictures

The overall width is now something like 940px and it might get to be around 1240px.

However, the wonderful news is that, with modern programming, the images will automatically downsize to fit the width of your display.

Ken, for you this means that you'll want to use the highest resolution display and have it full screen, if you want to see as much of those amazing panorama photos as you can.

You will use the scroll to move down a page but not to the right.

The other nice thing about this is that the site is going to look and function much better on iPads, mobile devices, your new Apple watch :) etc.

Thanks!
Jim

3/22/2014 2:03:39 PM

  Thank you for all the information. My questions were answered! Virginia

3/22/2014 3:42:28 PM

  Thanks Jim for the notes. Much appreciated ;)

UB.

3/22/2014 10:36:37 PM

  I, too, use the 800 on the long side for my uploads, in the Tiff format. I know they will change to Jpg, but they just look better in Tiff, to me. Maybe Jim could weigh in on the Tiff/Jpg thing?

3/27/2014 5:06:13 AM

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  I would actually love to hear from each of you on this. I myself upload high-quality JPEGs and am very satisfied with the quality and the upload speed is good. But TIFF has worked well for me too.

Reader, what do you do? :)

Any other tips for optimal image quality, anyone?

3/27/2014 4:12:31 PM

  I have been fine with mine. I convert tiffs to jpgs when I resize. I resize to 800 on the long side, 72 dpi, in FastStone Image Viewer (free download). Then I sharpen slightly (FS, too). And finally I save as jpg. So as far as I know, the BP software does nothing to my images when I upload.

3/27/2014 4:15:57 PM

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  Jim, I remember the tips BP gave several years ago...resize to 800 on long side, sharpen, saturate a tad, and convert to TIF.

But I have done experiments comparing images uploaded as TIF and JPG, and can't discern a difference. But years ago, I could. Or maybe it was my imagination.

And I've done experiments uploading an image at 800 pixels and comparing to another image uploaded at 1600 pixels (arbitrary size), and downsized to 800 by BP process. The downsized image was a little degraded visually which I think was the main reason someone at BP recommended that we resize to 800 and sharpen before uploading.

I do look forward to the option of viewing images at a larger pixel count.

3/27/2014 5:16:57 PM

Christopher J. Budny
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  800px TIF upload here; although I've never once paid any mind to whatever the DPI setting is. It has no real bearing on web-displayed files; whether you save as 800 pixels wide (at 300dpi), or 800 pixels wide (at 72dpi) or 800 pixels wide (at 10,000dpi), your file still has just 800 pixels across, and that is what will display online. (Try opening a file, resize it to 800 however you normally would, and save it as a TIF. Then go change just the DPI value to a totally different value (with "resample = off") and save it as a differently-named TIF again... the 2 files are both 800 pixels wide, and the same MB in size.)

3/27/2014 5:45:23 PM

James Miotke
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  Yeah, Ken... JPEGs have become much better than they were in the old days. That's why they might be just as good as TIFF now. Worth a try for anyone who likes testing things out.

And you are totally right, Chris. I just change that ppi to 72 out of mindless habit. :)

It's not really necessary if you are always looking at your image dimensions in the units of pixels (which I always do because I rarely print anymore).

We have such a wonderful BP right around the corner. I am going to see how much the team can get done on it this weekend.

Cra-crack (the sound of whipping).

Have a great weekend.

3/28/2014 8:49:53 AM

  Ignorance speaking here and I probably should be embarrassed to be asking, but doesn't reducing to 72 dpi make it harder to get a good or larger print from a screen shot should one be inclined to do that?

3/28/2014 9:02:36 AM

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  Nope. The DPI value within your file is completely ignored by all web browsers displaying your file. Assuming your gallery had 800 pixel-wide images on display, any screen grab will always produce an 800 pixel-wide result. The screen grab has no 'knowledge' of what you put into the file (DPI setting) when you first uploaded it to BP.

3/28/2014 9:07:38 AM

  I hope one of the changes being implemented will be elimination of whatever saturation changes the upload process currently applies. Today I often detect stronger yellows after upload. I attempt to reduce the saturation of yellows in my image before upload, but it's hard to get a good color match this way.

:)

4/12/2014 9:33:00 AM

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  17 .  Which is the best for me?
Hello! everyone, I have Nikon DSLR D3200 kit, and 18-200mm Nikon Len, 70-300 mm Sigma Len, 10-20mm wide Sigma Len. Now I'm upgrade to my camera to Full Frame format camera. But I can't choice which is the best for me. Canon 5D MarkIII or Nikon D800E or Nikon D610. Could you please suggest for me? Thanks.

3/16/2014 3:25:42 AM

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  Nobody will be able to tell you the answer to that question; you'll have to arrive at the decision yourself, after research into each camera, evaluating how each one feels when you hold it, determining whether you want to stay with Nikon to keep your lenses or switch to Canon and buy all new lenses...

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  18 .  Countdown to February Contest Results
Hello Everyone! It's the 15th of March and time to share our favorite contest image(s) from February. If it makes Staff Fav/Finalist/Winner, all the better. So give your favorites a showcase here, tell us why you picked them, and join us in the countdown!

Going off memory, I think February had nearly 6,800 images which is more than January, even with only 28 days. So, that’s a good thing…more photos. But we are nearly halfway thru March, and the rate is lower than in Feb.

BP has already gone thru the Feb EPs, and they may take another pass before they announce Staff Favs. And hopefully this month, we’ll see Staff Favs by March 21st.

So, upload your Fav photo(s) then join us as we await the contest results. Good luck everyone!

3/15/2014 5:46:02 AM

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  Some helpful hints for attaching photos into a BP Forum Thread, if you're unfamiliar with the process:

1) Sign into BP. IF YOU HAVEN'T entered the Contest for today, you can use the "Photo ID" method to pull an existing image (from your Member Center) into your Reply here. This avoids a duplicate image upload to your Member Center. Note the Photo ID# of the image you wish to include here (visible in your Member Center) then return to this thread, click Respond, enter the text of your reply, and choose "1" from the images-to-attach drop-down (even though you won't actually be uploading a file.) Click Submit; at the next screen, populate the "Photo ID" field shown over at the right. Skip the other text fields on that screen, check the boxes at the bottom, and Submit.

2) IF YOU HAVE ALREADY entered the Contest for today, you can't use the Photo ID method *today*. Either wait until tomorrow to reply here first, or upload a copy of the image (from your PC) and attach to this thread. This produces a duplicate image in your Member Center; however, you don't have to make that duplicate visible in your Gallery.

If you're uploading a duplicate, I suggest titling it "For Forum" so it stands out in your Member Center, for easier housecleaning later on. This can also help nudge BP viewers to go find the original image in your gallery, if they want to leave a comment. Likewise, if you want to add a comment to a photo seen here, first try to tell if it is a duplicate upload. As a courtesy, try to find the original image in the member's gallery and leave your comment there instead of on the duplicate... which may one day be deleted.

3/15/2014 5:47:42 AM

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Portal
Portal
From the traveling "Architects of Air" exhibit that was in Omaha, NE for a couple of weeks. There are many tunnels and domes inside, with lots of hues and colors. The sunlight bounces around, giving it a surreal feeling. across the curved walls.

F7, 1/125th sec, ISO 3200, 19mm focal length

 
 
Here's my fav...

3/15/2014 5:49:07 AM

 
 
  Added Beauty
Added Beauty
 
 
I'm picking this one, as much of a fave as any of them, I guess.

3/15/2014 7:30:46 AM

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  Hi Carolyn, you get the prize for being the first to join! :-) You've really excelled with your macros and this one is no exception. I hope we see the SF emblem on it shortly!

3/15/2014 9:16:49 AM

 
 
  Low Tech
Low Tech

Staff Favorite - Digital Darkroom - February 2014

Antique Royal typewriter, shot in morning window light.
This is a teaching typewriter; the keys have caps (a few of which are missing), so that
when removed, the student must learn what the keys are and type by touch.
Textures by Shadowhouse and Flypaper, black and white conversion and other adjustments in PS CC.
 
 
Hi, Ken! Thanks for hosting the thread again!

My fave for February ... Digital Darkroom.

3/15/2014 9:54:24 AM

  Tag - already entered today, so will have to pick a favorite tomorrow.

3/15/2014 9:55:21 AM

 
 
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Yellow
Yellow
Selective application of Oil Paint filter in PS CS6 and other adjustments in NIK Color EFX.
 
 
My favorite of the month did not even get an EP :(So, I am picking the next in line which did get an EP.

Good luck to us all ;-)

UB.

3/15/2014 11:51:48 AM

 
 
  The Red Suit
The Red Suit
Submitted for the PG 101 RED theme.
I spotted this handsomely dressed gentleman coming out of a shop in our Old Market area and couldn't resist asking him whether I could take his photograph. As you can see, he obliged. Such a very nice person! And yes, even his shoes were red :)
Category: People
 
 
My favorite is from the 15th, so I don't know whether it will make the first cut or not - but I do like it a lot so here we go.

Thanks for getting us off to another good start, Ken. Good luck, all.

3/15/2014 12:25:45 PM

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  Welcome Peggy, Michelle, Usman, and Nikki!

Peggy, I'm so glad I took a typing class in high-school. It's such a skill to have, versus keyboarding with one finger on each hand. Very nice tones on your photo.

Usman, a mesmerizing photo. And I've used the oil paint filter too; it's pretty cool. After this cold winter, I'm ready for a little sun and your flower is step 1!

Nikki, a fantastic portrait. I sure hope we see this one again. And what a beautiful day it was today in Omaha..but all things end as the cold front just went thru and a chance of snow/rain tonight. Lovely!

3/15/2014 2:13:51 PM

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Vacant Niches
Vacant Niches
A beautiful, cloudless February afternoon cast strong, late sun on the west facade of the cathedral; the empty statuary niches of the main portal always grab my eye, with strong clean lines in the absence of traditional standing gothic figures that may one day occupy them.
2/14 Finalist - EOD
 
 
Another lite month for me---7 entries. But I really like this one! Good kuck to everyone!

3/15/2014 8:11:25 PM

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  Hey Chris, welcome aboard. What a super shot...nice lighting and strong patterns. And it's not how many you enter; it's the quality of the ones entered. I hope we see this one again!

3/15/2014 8:29:47 PM

 
 
  Forum image
Forum image
 
 
Cape Cod Dawn is my favorite image for Feb 2014. I got an EP so that is the first step :-)

3/16/2014 9:30:18 AM

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  Hey Jill, welcome aboard! :-) I've never been to Cape Cod but I remember a lot of great photos from your gallery, plus this one's pretty special too. Love the lighting on this. Good luck in the next round!!

3/16/2014 1:29:44 PM

 
 
 
Here's my Feb fave. Good luck to all!

3/17/2014 8:04:07 AM

 
 
  Downtime
Downtime
A woman relaxing at the Bellagio in Las Vegas.

f/5.6, 1/320, ISO400, 163mm (equiv)

** People **

 
 
Hmm, not sure why the image didn't attach...trying again.

3/17/2014 8:05:05 AM

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  Hi Martha, thanks for joining our group. And after my busy work morning, I can certainly relate to the lady in the photo...relaxation! Good luck in the next round; fingers crossed!

3/17/2014 8:15:36 AM

 
 
  vogue
vogue
I love orangutans
 
 
this is my fave but I dont think it will be the one to go on to the second round if I get one. but it is my favorite

3/17/2014 2:01:48 PM

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  Hey Tony, welcome to the fun! And we're all about your fav here, regardless if it goes to the next round. But I have high hopes for your photo; I like the full frame look and the tilt in the comp. Time will tell on your fav! :-)

3/17/2014 5:22:37 PM

 
 
 
Here's my fave from February. Good luck everyone!

3/18/2014 1:44:57 AM

 
 
  Flying Colors
Flying Colors
 
 
Let me try again to get my fave uploaded....

3/18/2014 1:50:30 AM

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  Hi Dayna, what a super shot you have here. Very creative (hopefully you saved a few for this month's theme) and I like how you've tilted the perspective. I've never attempted water drop shots. You did great!

3/18/2014 3:45:56 AM

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  I just noticed on the February EP forum that folks are getting new EPs, including me. So, double-check your shots and you may have more photos in the running!

3/18/2014 3:51:53 AM

  Picked up a couple more EP's for Feb. too. Hope everyone did.

3/18/2014 9:29:06 AM

 
 
  Bow Bridge Crossing
Bow Bridge Crossing
*Catch-All*
 
 
Here's my fave for the month

3/20/2014 9:58:03 AM

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  Hi Jessica, welcome to March Madness...oh wait, that's basketball...never mind. :-)

What a beautiful photo. I've always admired your DD effects; no exception here. Good luck in the next round and hopefully we'll see Staff Favs this weekend!

3/20/2014 1:29:27 PM

 
 
  Colorful
Colorful
For Monthly Theme Feb. 2014 - Colorful
 
 
Finally remembering to share a pic before I enter for the day! Good luck everyone!

3/20/2014 3:57:09 PM

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  Hi Michelle, welcome aboard! Your photo jumps right off my monitor. Very beautiful...and super details. It should be printed and hanging on the wall, at your local botanical gardens!

3/20/2014 8:24:10 PM

  Lovely work everyone. Can't wait to see the SFs come out this weekend, Ken.

UB.

3/20/2014 9:20:31 PM

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  Love your optimism, Usman ;) Hopefully we'll see them by Wed.?

3/24/2014 12:37:43 PM

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  Chris, Usman was optimistic about my weekend optimism. Thankfully we didn't take any bets that Staff Favs would be released this weekend. So, maybe we should bet on Wednesday? :-)

Last month, Staff Favs were announced on the 23rd, or 5 days before the end of the month. If they announce on Wednesday (based on Chris' optimism), then that's 5 days before the end of March. So, Wednesday it is! :-)

3/24/2014 4:45:57 PM

  Being on a diet makes the wait for the SFs a bit harder since I am not eating anything with manufactured sugar in it. I guess now fruits and honey are the only other sweet options left for me, which isn't that bad either!!!

And I would love and welcome SFs coming out even earlier than Wednesday ;-)

UB.

3/24/2014 10:31:04 PM

 
 
  Father Time - Time Series
Father Time - Time Series
Weights for the chimes and time on my grandfather clock. Nikon D7000 24-85mm lens and PP in LR5.

2/7/2014

 
 
Hey, everyone! Here's one of my fab's for February!

3/25/2014 6:36:09 PM

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  Hi Kalena, you made it to the party in the nick of time, I think. :-) What a cool photo...very striking the colors and the design. I hope we see this one again!

3/25/2014 8:01:29 PM

  Staff Favorites are out!

Two for me, yipee!

Digital Darkroom Low Tech

Flowers Intimacy

3/26/2014 5:40:12 PM

  13 SFs for me. There is a God!

3/26/2014 5:54:35 PM

  Holy Toledo, Carolyn. WTG!! Four for me but not my favorite.

3/26/2014 5:59:07 PM

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  Fingers crossed for everyone going into the next round... Not to jinx it, but my favorite choice, above, is officially in the running!

3/26/2014 6:04:32 PM

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  Two for me.
WOW - 13 Carolyn!!!
Good Luck Everyone

3/26/2014 6:30:22 PM

  Got 6 this time. CONGRATZ to all SFs and good luck in the next rounds.

UB.

3/26/2014 6:46:05 PM

  Carolyn, you're on fire!!!
Congrats to all and best of luck going forward!

3/26/2014 7:08:53 PM

  Thanks all. I'll take all I can get. And much appreciated!

3/26/2014 7:12:13 PM

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  Hey guys, congrats to Peggy, Usman, Chris B, and Carolyn as your Favs made Staff Fav!! Fingers crossed for the Finalist round.

BP handed out 13% rate for Staff Favs, and I'm thinking they'll knock it down to 7 or 8% for finalists. So, good luck to everyone!

3/26/2014 7:30:40 PM

  And CONGRATZ and good luck to you too Ken on getting a SF on your pick above.

UB.

3/26/2014 8:30:27 PM

  Yep, what Usman said ... :)

3/26/2014 8:53:35 PM

 
 
  Dark Eyed Junco - N&L - 2/14/14
Dark Eyed Junco - N&L - 2/14/14
 
 
I had stopped checking by early March and haven't submitted an entry since the end of Feb. and when I checked today I had three Eps that weren't there when I last checked. A surprise but not terribly exciting since I've never gotten beyond three Finalists. My favorite for Feb. is the "dark-eyed" junco.

Good luck everyone.

3/26/2014 9:26:20 PM

  I entered three in February, had three EP's and now one staff favorite. Not the fave I uploaded here but I'll take it! lol
Good luck to everybody in the next round!

3/27/2014 3:27:02 AM

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  Thanks Usman and Peggy. :-)

Beth, for the last couple of months, BP has made another pass-thru on the photos and handed out more EPs. So, never be discouraged if the first pass-thru skips some photos.

I like your Junco photo. It's amazing that birds can handle snow and bitterly cold. We've had wind chills -30F and doesn't seem to impact them at all.

3/27/2014 3:42:49 AM

  Congrats everyone, and good luck in the next round!


Has anyone seen a link that shows all the SFs, like the one that was shared last month?

3/27/2014 7:20:57 AM

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  Martha, last month BP supplied the SF link. That was the first time they publically posted it. Perhaps they will publicize it this month, and/or permanently include on contest page, with links for Finalists and Winners.

3/27/2014 8:39:36 AM

  Finalists are out!
Congrats to all!

One for me ... Flowers Intimacy

3/28/2014 1:36:32 PM

  Congrats to Ken, I think he got about 15! (nobody likes a show off) LOL..
I got 7 and am happy as can be.

3/28/2014 1:41:51 PM

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  Congratulations to the Finalists! With only 7 entries in February, I was thrilled to receive 2 Finalists, including my "favorite choice" in this thread!
Best of luck in the Winner's round!

3/28/2014 1:55:45 PM

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  Hi everyone, congrats to those that got finalists! The selection rate was 9%, as compared to 6% last month.

And Carolyn, no I definitely didn't get 15 finalists. And your 7 finalists are certainly a good show, even if you aren't showing off either. :-)

And for those that participated in our Countdown thread but didn't get a finalist, I hope next month will be better. We are all gifted in our photography.

3/28/2014 3:07:38 PM

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  Just a reminder that tomorrow is the last day in March, so if you're in the habit of copying your contest submissions, don't forget.

And April 1st marks the transition from Catch All to Man Made. Per Jim's comments on the "Man Made" forum topic, the category includes Architecture,
Transportation (planes, trains and automobiles), and Industry.

Finally, next month's theme is "Back to Basics."

Good luck in April and we'll reconvene April 15th (American tax day) for the March countdown.

3/30/2014 4:38:24 PM

  CONGRATZ to All the Winners and to Ken for his First Place Gold which was picked in the thread too!!

I am at a loss interpreting "Back to Basics" for April's Monthly Theme, would love to hear from other members on their thoughts on the same.

UB.

3/30/2014 11:01:46 PM

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  Usman, like most BP themes, it's open to our interpretation. Here's a quick google search for "Back to Basics."

1. Stressing simplicity and adherence to fundamental principles: The movement suggests a back-to-basics approach to living for those whose lives have become complicated.

2. Emphasizing or based upon the teaching of such basic subjects as reading, arithmetic, grammar, or history in a traditional way.

3/31/2014 3:40:01 AM

  Thanks Ken, but I am afraid trying to figure out subject/(s) that would be a good fit for this theme still eludes me.
Maybe it will be one of the months when I won't enter any in MT!!!

UB.

3/31/2014 4:23:11 AM

  I'm also having trouble thinking up something that will work for this theme.
I'm probably going to skip it this month, too. So don't feel alone, Usman!

3/31/2014 5:21:18 AM

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  Thanks for the reminders, Ken, and for the thread itself!

Congratulations to all the gold winners, and best of luck to everyone in March's contest... seeya back in the Countdown in a few weeks...!

3/31/2014 8:40:00 AM

  Thanks very much for hosting, Ken!
Big congrats to all the Staff Favorites, Finalists, and Winners!
Best of luck in the March contest!

3/31/2014 9:55:20 AM

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  Thanks Usman, Peggy, and Chris.

For those that aren't following the "Man-Made" forum thread, BP has publicly stated that Resubmits are now allowed.

Usman and Carolyn...ref the theme. I was thinking about this while driving home today. I don't submit many photos into the theme, because the themes are generally out of my comfort zone for outdoor landscapes. But, maybe we can all step out of our box for this.

One way of portraying "Back to Basics" is to contrast the simple ways of life to our fast-paced, techno driven environment. For example, how about a photo of a manual camera (now that's back to basics for understanding shutter speed and aperture for exposure), with some modern-day cameras (or cell phones) in the background, out of focus.

Or, an elementary student working on a math problem using a pencil and paper, while mom/dad are in background keying in the same problem on the computer monitor, pulling their hair out.

Or a rotary dial phone because the cell phone accidentally dropped into the small fish-bowl adjacent to grandmother's phone.

I know these ideas are rather silly, but hopefully they'll get you to thinking of something creative. So, I would encourage all of us to step out of our box and give it a creative shot!

3/31/2014 5:09:03 PM

  Thanks for pointing that out about the resubs, Ken ... I hadn't been following that thread. Great news!

3/31/2014 5:24:17 PM

  Thanks for some interesting ideas on the MT, Ken.

How about a hand shot holding a rose with a perfume in the background with focus on the rose, shot with a shallow dof.
I might eventually enter the MT this month ;)

UB.

3/31/2014 9:16:37 PM

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  Usman, that's the nice thing about theme; it's open to interpretation and many directions you can go. Sounds like you're onto something!

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  19 .  Facebook link problem!
I would just love to know why every image I have shared on Facebook no longer is visible? If you click on anything I have posted recently it goes to this page ...http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery.asp#.UxmBBbu2XMs.facebook
I have been accused of posting SPAM to sell BetterPhoto products by several people which is a bit upsetting! I love BP, but I would really rather have folks be able to see my images I have posted here instead of a page promoting BP! I do not like posting actual images on Facebook due to people who can just steal anything posted there. At least when you share from BP to FB, the link used to take you to your BP gallery image which cannot be copied.

3/14/2014 6:01:47 PM

  Another problem I am having is that even though I check the box to be notified if anybody comments on a image I have uploaded when I go to "Email Notifications" under the "Discussions You've Initiated" it is turned off. I have to physically go in and change it back to "Yes" and even then, I am only getting like one email for an image I have maybe 12 comments on...I also noticed that the Photo Flash and Digital Darkroom newsletters seem to have disappeared? What is going on with BP? If it isn't broken, why fix it?

3/15/2014 7:56:15 AM

  Good morning Jill.

I think the problem is because the link to access, recent entries, doesn't work.

I know there is some kind of glitch with POTD. Now there seem to be lots of glitches. I'm sure they are working on fixing the problems.

3/15/2014 8:05:03 AM

  Donna, I am not having any problem accessing the recent entries if I go to the contest link at the top of the page and click recent entries from the drop down list, but,,,after I just commented an about 2 dozen images I went back to check my email and had notifications about all the images I had just commented on! Something is really messed up at BP! It kind of takes the incentive to comment away if I have to physically go back and change the notification of every single image I comment on!

3/15/2014 8:51:26 AM

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  Jill, I wonder if your "default" setting for comments is turned on, by accident? Try turning it off and maybe that will do the trick. Just go to your Member Center then click "My Info." You'll see something like this:

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Your default is currently set to not receive favorites and discussion notifications.
Change your default.
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I'm hoping your default setting is set to "receive" and it's a simple matter to change it back to "not receive."

3/15/2014 4:40:22 PM

  Thanks ken, but I have already tried that. The thing that gets me is that I never touched anything and somehow I stopped getting any notifications about all the comments on my images. When I looked they were all set to Off. When I upload I always check the box to be notified, somehow it isn't going through. When I changed it to receive I started getting emails about everybody else's comments on the pictures that I commented on. This is not the first time this has happened over the years. It is somebody messing around on BP's end of it. At this point I am now magically getting my emails, so I am not touching anything...
The thing I am really upset about is that all the images I have shared since October on Facebook can no longer be seen. If you click on the link it takes you to : http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery.asp#.Utb_1oMMewo.facebook. As a result my professional page at Facebook is now useless unless I want to sell websites on BP!

3/15/2014 5:51:49 PM

  Jim wrote me a very nice email and I sent him links for my page on FaceBook and a couple of the images I had shared from BP to that page that when you click on them no longer go to my image here on BP. Hopefully he can help me restore all the broken links since October...Everything I have posted for the last couple of days works fine. Maybe I will just have to write off the older ones...It was so nice of him to take the time to personally address my problem. Thanks Jim :-)

3/16/2014 9:27:53 AM

  YES! Jim fixed the problem on BP's end and everything is working once again. Thank you Jim!You have restored my faith in BP :-)

3/16/2014 10:23:18 PM

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  YAY! :)

3/18/2014 3:57:04 PM

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  20 .  Accessing recent entries
I'm not sure if this is related to the same glitch as not getting POTD's, but I can't access anything on the contest page, that is recent entries, or any of the categories that photos have just been put into. I would like to check if my photos have been entered.
Many thanks for your help.

3/14/2014 1:37:26 PM

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  Debbie, I don't have a problem accessing them. I just now navigated to the page; here's the URL:

http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/dynoGall2.asp?catID=560

Maybe there are different ways to navigate to the Recent Entries. For me, I go to My Member Center, then, My Photos (link towards the top left), then "Enter our Monthly Contest." Scroll down on the LHS and click "View All Recent Entries."

3/15/2014 5:54:53 AM

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  I just realized there's an even easier method for finding the contest entries; was staring right at me and I just never saw it. From the main home page, you'll see the main tool bar with Home, Self-Paced Courses, etc etc, Contest, Websites. Mouse over Contest then select Recent Entries. It goes to the same URL I just posted. If this doesn't work, then maybe it's a browser issue. I use Safari at home, and Internet Explorer at the office.

3/15/2014 6:37:04 AM

  I can't access them either Debbie. I have tried with Safari and Firefox.

To check if your photos have been entered, there is a link in your members gallery- current contest entries.

I haven't been able to access the contest entries for a couple of days now. You are not alone.

3/15/2014 7:46:17 AM

Ken Smith
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member since: 6/11/2005
  That's weird that I can access with no problems, but you guys can't. And I can see Debbie's "Fallen Comrade" on Page 8 of the "Recent Entries."

3/15/2014 9:15:31 AM

  I know right, it has been 2 or three days. This is what I see when I click on Recent Entries-

Safari can’t open the page.
Too many redirects occurred trying to open “http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/dynoGall2.asp?pageID=1&catID=560&contestCatID=&camID=&zulu=&rows=&updaterAccess=”. This might occur if you open a page that is redirected to open another page which then is redirected to open the original page.

3/15/2014 10:59:44 AM

  I use Internet Explorer as well, and I have tried both links, but to no avail. It's just been the last 3 days now, like Donna says. I can open "Finalists" and "Winners" on the same contest page, just not the contest entries, in all categories.
Thanks for your help, Ken and Donna. I'm glad I'm not the only one having problems.

3/15/2014 2:57:43 PM

  Hi Ken, I pasted the link, and still can not access the page. Thanks for you time.

3/16/2014 4:47:55 AM

  Hi Ken, I pasted the link, and still can not access the page. Thanks for you time.

3/16/2014 4:48:20 AM

Ken Smith
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  Very strange, Debbie. Hopefully BP staff is monitoring this thread and can figure out what is going on. Have you tried the link on a different computer, or iPhone, or iPad, laptop, etc? Granted, that won't fix your current issue but maybe you can view "Recent Entries" from a different device.

3/16/2014 6:16:25 AM

  I tried yesterday on my laptop, just to be sure. It didn't work for me.

Happy Sunday,

Donna

3/16/2014 7:54:04 AM

  Very strange. I used Firefox and have had absolutely no problem...Still using Windows XP, maybe that is what the problem is?Hope they figure it out for you!

3/16/2014 9:24:48 AM

Jane E. Miller

member since: 11/16/2010
  Debbie,

I, too, am having problems with my Recent Entries. It does not work on my phone either. I have been gone for days and did not have access to my computer, so couldn't really check it out.
Is there any solution?

Thanks,

Jane

3/16/2014 2:13:00 PM

Karen E. Michaels
karenemichaels.com

member since: 8/24/2004
  I cannot access entries.

3/17/2014 7:19:11 AM

  For the folks having issues ... Is it possible you need to do Java updates? Sometimes that fixes seemingly random problems for me.

3/17/2014 7:43:49 AM

James Miotke
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BetterPhotoJim.com
Owner, BetterPhoto.com, Inc.
  Thank you for all the feedback, friends. I think this issue should be resolved now. If not, let me know.

We are making lots of improvements, in anticipation for a WAY better BetterPhoto coming soon... I'm really excited to share it with you. SUPER excited.

But it's a lot of work so I can only hope we have it ready for primetime soon.

Thanks to all of you.

3/18/2014 3:55:00 PM

  Thanks Jim, the issue has been resolved. Oooh, the new improvements sounds interesting!! Thanks for sharing with us first!

3/29/2014 2:48:32 AM

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