 Susan |
Printing in Black and White with Digital Camera I am having trouble printing black and white photos from a digital camera. The pictures are consistently blue toned, and I can't get the deep rich blacks I am seeking. I am using the Canon Digital Rebel camera and the Canon S820 printer. Also, I have been using color photos and converting them in PhotoShop using the greyscale command. Any hints?
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John Wright |
Have you tried desaturating the photos? I've had better luck doing that rather than going to greyscale.
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- Gregory LaGrange Contact Gregory LaGrange Gregory LaGrange's Gallery |
There's a box to click for greyscale printing when you look under the printer properties - the page set-up stuff when you're about to print, not the "my computer" icon stuff.
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Susan |
I tried desaturating after I received your answer, and it didn't really improve the printed picture. I have already been clicking the greyscale printing option under printer properties. Neither have given me the results I want. Things look fine on my screen but bluish on the printed paper. Any other ideas to try?
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- Gregory LaGrange Contact Gregory LaGrange Gregory LaGrange's Gallery |
I have an i850 that will print the first copy with off color if I haven't used it in a while. Printing the first try on draft will take care of it. So if several tries are always blue, if you go to greyscale, then go back to RGB, the photo will still be black and white, but you can adjust the color. Maybe you can take some blue out with curves, levels, or color balance and get what you want. Hopefully, it won't go to brown, though. But I didn't have problems with going to greyscale and clicking the greyscale box on print properties.
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John Wright |
One other question... Are you using canon ink and paper in the i850?
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- Gregory LaGrange Contact Gregory LaGrange Gregory LaGrange's Gallery |
canon ink. first choice for paper is olympus pictorico. But not all stores have it so a close second is canon photo paper pro. I just bought some graphica to see how that turns out.
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John Wright |
I'm wondering if Susan is using Canon ink and/or paper. I've seen prints from Canon printers (as well as others - mainly HP) that tend to have a blue cast to them when printing black and white and not using the manufacturer's ink and paper. Canon usually does very well at printing black and white, but it wouldn't surprise me to see a blue cast.
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Susan |
Thanks for all your advice! I am using Canon Photo Paper Plus Glossy and Canon ink in the printer. What's next?
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Bob Ashby |
Hi Susan, you have entered the world of color management and it is not simple. There is a color profile that you camera uses, another profile for the software and hardware that you use to process and a profile that the software uses to talk to the printer. And in some cases a profile that display's the color on your monitor. The profile that is currently casueing you the most grief is for the printer. First desaturate you image, do not just do greyscale. THe system likes dealing with the idea of color even though you have removed most of it. Now you must create a custom profile in the Adobe printer control just for black and white. When you do this reduce the amount of blue. Save it and call the profile black and white or something like that. Also make sure that with in print preview you select color management and your printer. Now print a image that has not work correctly for you. A 4 X 6 should work. Review the results, go back and make adjustments to your saved profile resave and try again. If you happen to have the finds to spend get your self a color calibration system. For the money spent it is well worth the effort if you are going to be printing for customers and don't have the time to go through the above procedure.
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Irv |
I have been plagued with the same problem. I have scanned 4x5 b/w negatives into Photoshop and had this problem in many cases. Sometimes the color cast can be blue,or purple, almost like a selenium tone!. I went to the Photo Show last November and made prints on several brands of printers and none gave me a pure crisp b/w effect to equal that obtained by silver chemistry in the darkroom. The only consistent solution I have found in Photoshop is to use Dutones. Irv
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Ray Sweeney |
Hi Susan, Just a thought but maybe it has somthing to do with the white balance setting on the camera.As a color picture does it have a blue tint to it?I also have a digital Rebel & canon i850.Give this a try(I use psp8).Bring up your image in color,go to image-split channel,split to hsl.x out saturation & hue (do not save)keep the lightness channel.Go to layers and adjust curves etc.flaten all images and your ready to print.Print in color not grey scale.Hope this helps you.check out my gallery Ray Sweeney
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Steve Mescha |
I agree with Gregory that you might try converting to grayscale, back to RGB and then experimenting with adjustments. Another option is to go to hue&saturation, check the colorize box and adjust your saturation sliders. A little more contrast might give you the black you're looking for also. Keep notes on your adjustments and once you find something that works you should be able to use the method consistantly.
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Deb Booth |
Just a quick thought: have you tried using a matte, heavyweight (watercolor) paper? Epson makes a great watercolor paper that does a really wonderful job of making black a dark, velvety-looking thing with life and vibrance. I use an Epson PhotoStylus 825, and it works best when using the "matte paper, heavyweight" choice in the printer set-up box.
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Steve Mescha |
different papers definately make a huge difference in print color. My absolute favorite paper for printing photos, either color or B&W is Epson Matte Heavyweight. It works fine in my HP printer set at "other photo paper". The only problem is that the prints MUST be kept under glass or they will fade.
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Michelle B. Prince |
Have you tried to click... Image, adust, channel mixer. Then click monochrome and adust the top three sliding bars to get the color you want.
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- Gregory LaGrange Contact Gregory LaGrange Gregory LaGrange's Gallery |
Many ways to a destination.
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