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September 2015 EPs, SFs, Finalists


Ready for comments about the September 2015 contest.


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9/1/2015 3:49:25 AM

 
Joannie Bertucci
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  Wow Bill, you don't let any grass grow under your feet! :-)


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9/1/2015 2:35:23 PM

 
Bob Cournoyer
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  It's been 19 days, has the grass started growing yet???


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9/19/2015 12:36:33 PM

 
Joannie Bertucci
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  It's not growing in our yard! No rain, no growing grass! :-)


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9/19/2015 4:19:25 PM

 
Harriet Feagin
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  Are there any EP's yet for this month? I thought I saw one but it may be a resub.


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9/19/2015 9:17:18 PM

 
Carolyn  M. Fletcher
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  None yet that I've seen. Can't even upload this morning. It's all screwed up. Even my website is down. I guess it's glitch fix day.


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9/20/2015 5:54:12 AM

 
Cindy Koller   Nothing at a for September that I can see, but this morning I noticed yet another 3 EP's for August. Will they ever finish? I think I'm 19 of 25 now for August. I always put out some 'tester' photos, just to see the feedback they get. I just wish they would finally finish August already, so they can focus on Sept. and maybe start to get back under control.


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9/20/2015 12:39:32 PM

 
Harriet Feagin
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  I deleted most of my entries that did not have an EP for August. I was convinced they were through. In all honesty, I don't think they would have been picked up but....you never know. Rule: Never delete until winners are announced. I knew this.


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9/21/2015 12:45:45 PM

 
David L. Godwin
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  So far for the month of September I have submitted 9 photos to the monthly contest and have received 3 EP's . So I know there has been some reviews and picks made for September.

I have not seen any additional activity for August in a long time. I would expect to begin to see the August results (SF, etc.) pretty soon.


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9/21/2015 1:47:27 PM

 
Joannie Bertucci
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  The Potter House
9/3/2015
Man-Made


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9/22/2015 3:48:06 AM

 
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September 1


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9/22/2015 5:47:53 AM

 
Bob Cournoyer
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  I got one! I got an EP!! Yee Haw, Doggie Doggie.... :-)


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9/22/2015 6:34:11 AM

 
Lola M.
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Two for September so far!
9/1 Animals
and 9/2 Details and Macro


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9/22/2015 9:25:50 AM

 
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Two for September so far!
9/1 Animals
and 9/2 Details and Macro


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9/22/2015 9:26:45 AM

 
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2nd one


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9/22/2015 9:27:29 AM

 
Carolyn  M. Fletcher
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  I also picked up 2 for September.


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9/22/2015 12:29:28 PM

 
Cindy Koller   I've been doing some analysis and using the Animal category only. There are several things I've noticed that attracted my attention this month.

1. There were 11 pages of resubmits alone which I believe
to be significantly higher than usual. I understand that we are allowed to resubmit a photo. My question is that the majority of these photos being resubmitted already have EP or higher. Does that mean that as a resubmit, they will retain that standing in this competition. Example. A photo is entered that had previously received 'FINALIST'. Does that mean that the photo will automatically be a finalist in this months competition as well, or is it possible that in this competition the photo may not even be awarded an EP?

2. I noticed specifically that Kathy Salomi entered 19 resubmissions this month, including 10 prior EP's, 3 prior Semis, and 2 prior Finalists (one of which was also a POTD). There were also several others who's name I noticed multiple times for resubmits, it was insignificant in comparison, however it did cross my mind that perhaps BP may have made requests to some folks to repost good photos.

3. In Animal category, looks like voting has been done for 1st and 2nd and the results in my humble opinion have been odd.
1st EP Yes - 25
EP No - 2
2nd EP Yes - 8
EP No - 15, including several top notch photos.
Then on to the 3rd, where they gave out 1 EP, to the 5th photo, so either the first four were No and they had not finished, or they were all No, or possibly their head got stuck back up their buggy system.

Hope things are going better elsewhere.


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9/22/2015 11:48:11 PM

 
Ken Smith
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  Cindy, my 2 cents worth...I wouldn't read too much into BP's early round for awarding EPs. The last several months, they seem to put out some EPs sparingly thru the month, then go back in the 2nd round and double the number of EPs. As people noted recently, BP was awarding August EPs up until a few days ago.

As for resubmits...if you resubmit a finalist, it may not necessarily get finalist the next time. But the badge remains. However, I've seen 2nd place golds become finalists. And then it didn't get gold again, so the badge reverted from gold to finalist. A risk. But there's no risk to resubmit a finalist. Assuming it goes tot the EP round, the silver badge doesn't turn into an EP badge. So, no risk there.

I'm unaware of BP contacting folks to repost good photos. That's always been something BP members do, because judging is subjective and BP management has said the same thing. But maybe someone reading this forum post can chime in, if they have been contacted by BP.


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9/23/2015 4:01:43 AM

 
Carolyn  M. Fletcher
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  Not likely that they contact anybody to resubmit. We have always done it, and have done pretty well by resubmitting...most of the time. I've had shots resubmitted several times get gold. You never know.


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9/23/2015 4:20:09 AM

 
Cindy Koller   I just thought it was in poor taste for someone to resubmit all of their EP's, Semi's and Finalists in a single category for reconsideration in one month (19 in total). Not my style.


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9/23/2015 11:41:50 PM

 
Carolyn  M. Fletcher
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  Then you shouldn't do it. It's also not cool to criticize somebody by name in the forum. Just sayin'.


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9/24/2015 3:28:13 AM

 
Kathy Salerni
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  Since my name was mentioned, I will address the comment. I have been ill and not able to go out and shoot and that is why I am re-submitting. The reason most are in animals is because that is what I mainly shoot.


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9/24/2015 5:36:54 AM

 
Cindy Koller   Fair enough. My bad.

The main point to my point had been to let folks know the strange trend which the judges had been taking for first 2 days, which was for first day they EP'd all but 2 (and one of those was where photographer submitted 2 similar). On Day 2, judge EP'd less than half, and specifically overlooked what were some of the very best photos. Looks like on day 3, forward judge has gone back to EPing just 1 for the 3rd, and 1 for the 4th.

I also was able to get many of my own questions regarding how resubmitting actually works answered.

I understand that there is no rule against resubmitting, and I apologize to Kathy. Best of luck to you, as your photos are always quite good.


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9/24/2015 3:55:57 PM

 
Joanne E. Bohenstengel
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  I have entered 14 photo's for September and not one EP. There must be at least ONE that is worthy of an EP.


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9/24/2015 5:18:50 PM

 
Harriet Feagin
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  I think we all need to take a deep breath. This EP and judging stuff will drive you crazy if you let it. I am not exactly scoring big either. In the grand scheme of things.... is this really worth the anxiety? Ah.....the answer to this is NO! If you want a reality check, I will share mine. I developed a macular hole in my right eye. Everything is twisted and surgery most likely will not make it any better. I have always had 20/20 vision and I am going on 67. If I get one in my left eye, then I am done with reading, photographing, sewing ...you name it. Now, is an EP going to make or break my day...I think not. Keep things relative folks and be grateful for your blessings.


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9/25/2015 8:38:26 AM

 
Mary  L. Olson   Harriet, thanks for the wake-up call and my best wishes and prayers for you and your eye problems. You are so right -- there are so many things in this world that are more important than badges. To me, this contest is like a penny ante poker game -- if I win great, if I lose, I'm not hurt too much -- and I have had the fun of "hanging out" with some fun, like-minded people. It's the last that is most important.


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9/25/2015 9:58:19 AM

 
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9/10 Details and Macro


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9/25/2015 12:10:30 PM

 
Lola M.
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9/12 Animals


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9/25/2015 12:11:06 PM

 
Cindy Koller   Harriet, so sorry to here that.

Joanne, if you want to understand and see how screwed up and unpredictable the voting has become, go through a category such as Animals, and look at every photo from about page 10 on (as prior to that are all resubmits and you cannot tell if they have been judged or not), and look at the bottom and you will see if the judges have awarded EP or not. A day or so ago, They had done 2 days worth and then started just choosing 1 EP per day, but at that time it looked like only through a couple of days. I do not know if perhaps they may be continuing that trend of 1 per day.

If you look on the EP site, stranger yet, you will see some groups of photos 9 photos from Cuba, from one person, all with Eps, and another group of photos of someone cutting hair, perhaps 5 as a series, all with Eps and I think others too. I'd never seen that before. but other than that, there were not too many EP's yet.

I'd say, until we at least see the results from August, it will be difficult to know what these initial EP's mean over later EP's.

Unfortunately, I do not think that the grass is any greener elsewhere. By and large, I've found quality of photos better here. :-)


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9/25/2015 2:04:35 PM

 
Lindley Johnson
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  Thank you for putting this into perspective, Harriet. There are definitely more important things in life. Take care.


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9/25/2015 4:33:05 PM

 
Usman M. Bajwa
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  Just renewed my Gallery and see two EP's appear for the 10th & 11th September.

UB.


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9/26/2015 12:24:24 AM

 
Usman M. Bajwa
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  And one more today for Sept 15.

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9/28/2015 5:33:29 AM

 
Joanne E. Bohenstengel
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Received a second SF and 2 EP's . Pretty excited about that.


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9/28/2015 5:52:22 AM

 
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9/13 Animals

9/14 Animals
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9/15 Details and Macro
Cloudless Sulphur Butterfly Phoebis sennae

9/16 Animals
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9/30/2015 11:13:53 AM

 
Beth W. DeBor
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  Harriet, thanks for the wake-up call. I am grateful for the vision I have. For a long time, I have given little credence to the judging here. I've never been able to figure it out and I can't help but wonder if Jim is the sole judge. Anyway, since all the classes but Jim's are gone, I have had my suspicions about the future of BP. I hope it doesn't go under but it could be hanging on by a thread.


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9/30/2015 2:36:29 PM

 
Carolyn  M. Fletcher
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  Looks like a bonanza of EPs this afternoon. Now they can go back and pick up the ones that got skipped the first half of the month. I am thrilled with the ones I got today.


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10/1/2015 2:40:11 PM

 
Bob Cournoyer
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  Wow! I picked up 4 September EPs while I was grocery shopping..... 6 out of 10 for September.. :-)
How's the Brat doing??


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10/1/2015 3:08:24 PM

 
Joannie Bertucci
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  The Brat is doing great! :-) Picked up 5 more EP's for Sept. That's 6 in all for now!


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10/1/2015 7:50:22 PM

 
Usman M. Bajwa
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  Picked up 6 more EPs last night and have a total of 9 EPs to show for September till now.

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10/1/2015 8:33:11 PM

 
Dayna Cain
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  Picked up eight EP's yesterday so for now that leaves me with 9 EP's out of 13 entries. I'll take it and darn glad to have it! lol


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10/2/2015 5:34:14 AM

 
Usman M. Bajwa
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  Just saw another pop up on the 14th Sep :)

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10/2/2015 10:44:14 PM

 
Patrick Rouzes
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  It's nice to win, but I am not too distraught when I don't. I enjoy viewing the photos and the great friends I've met here. Thanks for putting things in perspective, Harriet. Best of luck with the eye concerns!


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10/10/2015 3:31:40 PM

 
Harriet Feagin
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  Thanks, Patrick. You are so kind. I have surgery in November but I doubt that my full sight will be restored. Thank goodness I have 20/25 vision in my left eye.


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10/10/2015 6:21:39 PM

 
Lola M.
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  After many quiet days, Staff Favorites are out - I am excited to get 5!!!


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10/15/2015 12:32:54 PM

 
Bob Cournoyer
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  Yay, Lola!!!
I got one.
Luck to all in future rounds, to include The Brat.... :-)


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10/15/2015 12:43:17 PM

 
Dayna Cain
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  Managed to snag two SF's. I am way excited and good luck to all in the next round!!!


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10/15/2015 1:21:34 PM

 
Beth W. DeBor
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  I picked up one SF.


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10/15/2015 1:23:42 PM

 
Peggy Pfister
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  Wow, this is early, yay! One for me ... :)


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10/15/2015 2:29:58 PM

 
David L. Godwin
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  I am having a great month so far ! Today I picked up 6 SF's from my September submissions. These shots represent some of my best work from my trip to Iceland in July. Can't wait to see how these selections perform in the next round !


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10/15/2015 2:46:00 PM

 
Joannie Bertucci
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  Wow David, that is excellent! I've picked up two SF and I appreciate the encouragement of Mr. Bob! :-)


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10/15/2015 3:22:21 PM

 
G. Margaret Hennes
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  2 SF's for me! I am delighted and wish everyone luck in the next round!
Can,t wait to checkout your Iceland images David!


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10/15/2015 3:57:23 PM

 
Philip B. Ludwig
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I have never posted on this forum before even though I've been around BP for quite a few years. Thought this would be a good time for my first post as I have just got my first Staff Favorite. Just had to share. Congrats to everyone and good luck in the next round.


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10/15/2015 5:50:35 PM

 
Mary  L. Olson   Congrats to all, especially to you, Philip, on your first SF award. Lovely image and I think deserving of an award or two. I am pleased to say I bagged a few myself, and I am grateful to the judges and to all who provided positive feedback.


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10/15/2015 5:54:56 PM

 
Debbie Bray
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  I don't generally come on the forum to speak much either, but I feel very excited to pick up that 10 out of the 810 SF's. My whole 18 entries earnt an EP, first time since the judging got stiffer. And I also earnt a POTD this week too! Wow, nothing that a good overseas holiday won't solve! :) Feeling a little tickled at the moment.....


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10/16/2015 12:19:11 AM

 
Usman M. Bajwa
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  Happy for all who got one or more SFs and good luck in the next rounds.

UB.


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10/16/2015 12:51:30 AM

 
Pat Harry
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  I'm so excited - 100% of my October entries received SF. (That sounds better than saying my one entry received SF, right?? :)

I really need to get back into being active. I miss it!


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10/16/2015 4:35:24 AM

 
Joanne E. Bohenstengel
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Received 4 SF's and am very happy about that. This is one of my favorite's. It's the caption that tells the story.


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10/16/2015 5:56:06 AM

 
Jill Odice
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I got 3 SFs this time around :-) It's funny how they always chose ones I would not have chosen ...Guess we all have different tastes :-)


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10/16/2015 6:42:44 AM

 
Dayna Cain
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  Finalists are out! I managed to snag one. Good luck in the next round everyone!!!!


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10/16/2015 12:37:22 PM

 
Carolyn  M. Fletcher
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  Two finalists for me this time. Yay~


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10/16/2015 12:56:43 PM

 
Lola M.
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  Two for me also! Congratulations and Good Luck in the next round everyone.


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10/16/2015 1:01:42 PM

 
Joanne E. Bohenstengel
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  Received my first finalist . I am very excited about that.


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10/16/2015 1:26:57 PM

 
Mary  L. Olson   Congrats, Joanne, on your first. And to other finalists as well.


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10/16/2015 1:42:15 PM

 
Mary  L. Olson   Congrats, Joanne, on your first. And to other finalists as well.


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10/16/2015 1:42:16 PM

 
Peggy Pfister
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  Big congrats to all who received Staff Favorites and Finalists, especially to Philip and Joanne for their exciting firsts!

Best of luck to all in the next round!


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10/16/2015 2:05:41 PM

 
Joanne E. Bohenstengel
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  Thanks for the congrats.


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10/16/2015 7:41:39 PM

 
Jill Odice
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  I got 2 Finalists out of 3 SFs :-) A big congrats to all the Finalists and best of luck in the next round! Lots of lovely images!!!


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10/17/2015 12:08:42 AM

 
Cindy Koller   Out of 19 Eps, managed just 1 SF and 1 Finalist, and the finalist was definitely not something I would ever have picked out of all those EP's. But at the same time, my best work did not even get EP's. ;-)


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10/17/2015 4:14:02 PM

 
Joannie Bertucci
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  I don't understand how the month of Oct. contest can be all caught up with the EP's but there is still no winners for Sept.!


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10/21/2015 3:50:31 PM

 
Lindley Johnson
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  Joannie - I think we should be happy that they're up to date on October and way ahead of the game for September. There is plenty of time for September winners.


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10/21/2015 6:32:01 PM

 
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