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Karim Abiali
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/8/2005
 

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I am not sure if this have been raised in another threat, but I thought I would bring up the issue since it is recurring every month.

I have noted that a lot of photo entered into the contest are out of category. For example I see flowers in element of design or nature, I see buildings in nature, I see people in nature or element of design...My understanding is that nature should only include pure nature and wildlife flowers as opposed to cultivated flowers and no work of man should be present(ie Tulips are cultivated therefore they don't fit the nature category) yet I notice fences, hydro poles, barns, people, etc..in the nature category. Lots of other things applies to other categories of the contest. I hope BP can amend the definitions of categories to be more specific. Any thoughts, especially from BP?

Thanks.


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5/10/2009 12:54:07 AM

 
Tiia Vissak
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/1/2007
  This issue has been discussed before in several threads, but without much effect: images are still being entered to categories which would not be the first or second logical choice and some even manage to get EFPs, Finalists or even Winners despite that. So, I'm not sure that anything will change in the near future.


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5/10/2009 12:15:41 PM

 
Marianne Fortin
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/23/2006
  If you check out the following you will see the BetterPhoto's category definitions:

http://www.betterphoto.com/contest/categories.asp


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5/11/2009 6:51:11 AM

 
Tiia Vissak
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/1/2007
  Unfortunately, not all thumbnails at that link can be opened: several photos have been removed (maybe their authors did not prolong their membership). Also, some categories should be illustrated by more photos: for example, in Catch-All, 2 images are of cars and 2 of the 3 should maybe fit better to Digital Darkroom. It also seems that it should be explained more clearly when a photo should be submitted to DD and when not: some obviously very strongly manipulated images that logically should be in DD are submitted to other categories.


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5/11/2009 9:19:13 AM

 
Marianne Fortin
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/23/2006
  I think the guidelines answer Karim's question regarding the nature category which is actually "Nature & Landscapes".

"These pictures include landscapes, outdoor scenics, nature images, sunsets, urban landscapes, seascapes, cityscapes, and farms - to name a few."


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5/11/2009 9:32:58 AM

 
Karim Abiali
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/8/2005
  Marrianne - I am aware of the definition. Still I notice fences, people, hydro poles, etc... entered in Nature and landscape, which is not correct (except it is a cityscape).


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5/11/2009 8:24:33 PM

 
Gregory LaGrange
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/11/2003
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  "...urban landscapes, seascapes, cityscapes, and farms - to name a few..."

Clear your mind of what you preconceived it should be, and go by what they're trying to spell out for you that it can be.


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5/12/2009 4:01:17 AM

 
Karim Abiali
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/8/2005
  URBAN LANDSCAPES WITHOUT INCLUDING THE WORK OF MAN OR ANYTHING THAT IS NOT PURE NATURE - GET OVER IT GREG IT IS ONLY A DISCUSSION. ANYWAY, WHAT THE HECK...


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5/12/2009 8:21:51 PM

 
Gregory LaGrange
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/11/2003
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  Check the title, and the guidelines. It's trying to tell you that the category is inclusive of several types of photos, as well as several subjects. It's Nature and Landscapes.
Ask yourself, if you just admitted that urban landscapes fit the category, how can you have urban landscapes without including any man made objects?


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5/13/2009 4:09:48 AM

 
Cary Rogers
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/30/2006
  A lot of the flower photos I shoot, could be entered into several categories, by the stated BP category guidelines....especially when I do some dramatic post-processing. I usually ask myself what stands out the most about the image, and enter it accordingly. My consternation with "Nature and Landscapes" is that it is one category instead of 2. Whenever I am unsure of which category a photo "fits" best in, I just enter it in the Catch All category---which is it's stated purpose.


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6/17/2009 10:22:33 AM

 
Colleen Farrell
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/13/2004
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  I agree with Cary. One of the first finalists I got was a flower photo that I entered into Elements of Design. That's because what was most striking about the image was not the subject itself, but how the subject depicted form, color, line, shape, etc.

As for DD manipulation--I always go by what the guidelines say: if the *main value* of the image is the DD work, then it goes in that category. Otherwise it can go in another.

Bottom line: there are times when we all (myself included) think a photo should have been entered in a different category, but it's the judges' determination in the final analysis.

And if the judges are awarding finalists or better to those images, they must feel they're in the correct category!


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6/22/2009 8:26:25 AM

 
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