 Anonymous |
Fastest way to get better equipment Does anyone the fastest way to earn some cash taking pictures, so that I can get better quality equipment? I know for a fact the I make better pictures with better stuff, because I have borrowed a friends 30D and 70-200 2.8 and I could see the difference in quality. Sharper and cleaner for sure.
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Bob Cammarata |
Get First Place in BP's Cash Contest. (...but then you would first need to be competant with your present equipment.) Depending upon what you own, it might have been only that 70-200 2.8 that gave you better results. If your present camera accepts interchangeable lenses, try upgrading to a better lens first then move on from there.
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John P. Sandstedt |
It's not the equipment that makes a good picture . . .
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Bob Cammarata |
I would usually agree with John's assessment, except that Paul disclosed having.."borrowed a friends 30D and 70-200 2.8 and could see the difference in quality. Sharper and cleaner for sure." This sounds to me that a better lens would help to improve upon the quality of technique he has already.
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W. |
Cameras don't create images. People do. Robert Capa, and Henri Cartier-Bresson – in the thirties, forties, fifties, and sixties – made photos that entered history. Yet the cameras they did it with were a 100 times less sophisticated and less capable, technically, than your average P&S today. The lens quality being the major exception. A 'good' camera won't make you a better photographer. Only a poorer photographer.
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Jerry Frazier |
Sharper and cleaner means nothing without more information. The settings on the JPEGs could have been set sharper and more contrast and gave the illusion of a better image. When in fact, it may not really be better at all. Just too many variables when shooting digitally. I know a pro photographer, very high end, who will only shoot jpegs because he says RAW images look horrible. But, what it is is that his camera is set up the way he likes it to get nice tastey jpegs right out of the camera. When he shoots RAW, he's seeing what the camera really produces, and then he has to further process the way he likes it. We've discussed this at length and he can't get it through his head. Digital shooting is complicated. Another shooter I know shoots at the motocross race tracks alot. He claims that all the photogpahers with Canon 1Ds cameras kick but all over his 20D. In some respects yes, but not to the level he thinks, and I keep trying to explain to him that they just have their cameras set to take images a certain way (contrast, sharpness, etc). He needs to make those adjustments in-camera, or shoot RAW and process later. He just wont listen and insists that he needs a better camera. The 20D is a fine camera for his hobby shooting, and it is frusrating for me. I've told him to give me a disc of images, and I'll process them and show him. But, he just thinks it's his camera. It's not. There was a photo that one the Pulitzer (SP?) that was shot on a Brownie. You don't need high-tech equipment to make compelling images. I know a lot of digital photogaphers that play with various films, holgas, and other low tech gadgets and turn out unbelieveable images. I'm talking award winning, jaw dropping, stuff. There's some photojournalist that is using a point and shoot camera, I forget which one, to make a point about all this. He's been doing this work now for a couple of years and winning awards and everything...all with a smalll point and shoot camera. When he came out with the fact that all his images were shot on a P&S, it kind of shocked the world, because he is producing amazing award-winning photojournalism with a small pocket camera. Funny.
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Anonymous |
Not one suggestion on how to make some money with photography? Only that the photographer makes the best picture not the camera. Well I kinda had to giggle because everyone is using better equipment then my 10D. I saw it on the gallerys 30D, 5D etc..of those that were listed. I'm not saying I will become a better photographer because of the camera, but I see the difference in sharpness and quality. Now back to the original question, what is the best way to rake in some dough in a small amount of time so that I can upgrade my stuff. Please no jokes this time, thanks :)
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Bob Cammarata |
Hey,..not everyone was quick to jump upon the "photographer's talent vs equipment" bandwagon. If you check out my initial post, you will see that I suggested that a lens upgrade might help you to get better quality. (...No joke!)
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Pete H |
Hello Paul, Well I had to as you put it "giggle" as well at your question. "what is the best way to rake in some dough in a small amount of time so that I can upgrade my stuff." Overtime at work maybe? Paul!..Please!..Take no offense, but allow me to say what I bet everyone who is reading your post is thinking.. Your question is ridiculous! If ANY of us here had a sure fire way to accomplish what you seek; we would probably not even be here answering such a inane question! Paul, anyone who knows me and have seen my posts know I harp on how to make money in photography. GET A BUSINESS DEGREE OR SOME BUSINESS SENSE! I hate to burst your bubble, but there is NO WAY to make money fast in photography unless you capture an image so compelling that a network will pay you a ga-zillion bucks for the rights. Making money in photography is 90% business and 10% photography! Don't believe it? Dive in and test the water. By the way; what is "a small amount of time?" Chill! Pete
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Anonymous |
Ridiculous! I don't see why. I was thinking more along the lines of nature, people, products, animals, stock etc.... Is there any line of photography that makes more money then the rest or do you have to be flexible, shoot it all and just wait for that big break. I'm confident with my knowledge of how to shoot and how to sell my work to clients, I'm just wondering what would get me the stuff I want to have quicker. I feel it is always better to concentrate in one area and excel at it instead of being a jack of all trades and a master of none. I was thinking within 2 years like to have all the equipment, at least the lenses. I know the bodies will always change so I'm flexible on that bit.
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Mark Feldstein |
Ok, "seriously" Paul: Sell your present equipment and use the dough to (1) buy newer, more expensive equipment and (2) take lessons on how to use it better than the older equipment. BTW, I earn a living with film camera gear that's about 30-35 years old(er). Meanwhile, don't quit your day job just yet.
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Pete H |
".... Is there any line of photography that makes more money then the rest or do you have to be flexible, shoot it all and just wait for that big break." Now you're asking an entirely different question from your 1st post. Paul; unless you are well connected with people who can launch you and/or your biz, it just ain't gonna happen. "I'm confident with my knowledge of how to shoot and how to sell my work to clients" Well if that's the case; then what are you waiting for? How many photographers Paul does it take to screw in a light bulb? Answer: 50....1 who can do it and 49 who said "I could have done that" "Is there any line of photography that makes more money then the rest or do you have to be flexible.." Paul..Paul..really; we are trying to help..Some call this (reality therapy.) LOL There are no "big breaks" as you call them..might as well play the lottery with that way of thinking. Are you not hearing well Paul? GET A BUSINESS PLAN..WORK HARD! If you do that; ANY area of photography can be profitable.
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Anonymous |
Are there any nice people on this website? Maybe with some postitive feedback?
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- Gregory LaGrange Contact Gregory LaGrange Gregory LaGrange's Gallery |
They've been nice, since they haven't called you any names like hard headed. If you want quick money, Las Vegas and hope you're lucky, or the lottery. Otherwise you're not going to get quick money thru photography. You're confident in knowing how to sell pictures, then go ahead and sell them, then see how quick money comes in. And come back and tell us if it's small quick, or big quick. It doesn't even sound like you have a job. If you want a lens, a full time job can get you a good lens within a few months. And that still depends on what other expenses you have.
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BetterPhoto Member |
Hi Paul; The question that you need to address is this. What are the demographics of my area? Sometimes, The demographics are such that you would have no trouble selling an all black frame. Othertimes, the highest quality, best framed print will never move. I suggest adjusting your W-4's on your day job and using your tax check to buy better gear. I'll bet that I'm not the only one on this site that has done this. Have fun and keep shooting,
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Anonymous |
Ahhh.... how refreshing, thanks Mark. I have made friends on forums that shoot stills and some that shoot people and every once in a while a wedding. But none of them make an exceptional amount of money. So I'm not really sure whats out there thats big. The biggest market I can think of is shooting Seniors in my area.
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- Gregory LaGrange Contact Gregory LaGrange Gregory LaGrange's Gallery |
You want refreshing, don't use grossly generic and vague questions. Because otherwise, go land an international ad campaign. That's big, and that will give you a lot of money quickly.
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Tareq M. Alhamrani |
Cameras are like the cars. You can't use the small economy car for deserts where the sand dunes are so huge then stuck, and you can't use it in sports racing if it is not fast and vise versa, so who will tell you that the car does nothing but the driver? I know what you mean about better equipments, in fact I started with 350D and in less or say about 1 year I got 4 more cameras including 5D and 1-series, and now I don't use 350D or 30D, why? because those pro cameras did more what my entry-level cameras can do, I know all cameras take photos whether good or bad and will not make you better photographer, but with new models or higher level cameras you can get many keepers and more chance to learn fast, many people forget about cameras limitations, and I really ask myself: if pros know how to use any camera mostly, why they don't use those point and shoot or cheap entry-level cameras in their works? even if someone will say the do I am sure they are very rarely in the world and sure they just will upgrade when they can afford pro or higher equipments. all what I want to say is that if you want to use better equipments to use it in learning and helping you why not, all humans like to get the best tools to work with, and it is not a rule that you have always to start with small or cheap simple equipment, buy whatever and work with it whether you want to be better or become expert or just do it as hobby. Good luck!
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Jennifer L. Ash |
okay, on the equipment issue, I must say that I definitely see a difference in clarity and crispness in a lot of the photos taken with cameras other than my own sony dsc-h1, and I have a couple of filters for it and no education, but I feel I have some natural talent and a good eye for photography. Does raw processing make a really big difference, i've never tried it and know nothing about it honestly. sorry for sounding a bit amateur...
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Anonymous |
Tareq "if pros know how to use any camera mostly, why they don't use those point and shoot or cheap entry-level cameras in their works? even if someone will say the do I am sure they are very rarely in the world and sure they just will upgrade when they can afford pro or higher equipments." Thats what I'm thinking. I love it when people say you don't need better tools, when then use top of the line stuff themselves. Or the ones still using film because they say it looks better, which is hard to tell these days.
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Tareq M. Alhamrani |
So Paul, don't let people lay you down. Buy a good or pro tools and learn how to use it, and sure you will have fun and you will never regret that you went with pro equipment rather than entry-level. I am happy with my 1DsMKII and MKIIN and 5D even I have 350D and 30D which is less than 1 year ago I bought.
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Oliver Anderson |
Paul, I think Jerry nailed the best way to earn money quickly... There was a photo that one the Pulitzer (SP?) that was shot on a Brownie. Bake brownies and sell them...it works for the Girl Scouts and some guy got a Pulitzer taking pictures while standing on a brownie...I use footstools mostly but might try standing on the brownies I just baked during my shoot Saturday... Oh wait I might have miss understood Jerry...nevermind.
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