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Sherry L. Davis
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/4/2007
 

Business card portraits


I did portraits for a real estate company, for the paper and business cards. They want me to crop them for business cards and size them for business cards, I have no idea what size that should be, does anyone know what size I should have them? Thank you! Sherry


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1/4/2008 9:17:00 AM

 
lindsay king
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/13/2007
  This probably won't be helpful always, but it may work in a pinch this time if you don't mind ordering from a differnet lab. I order throught Nations Photo Lab on line, and through them, you have to download the ROES software which you will do your order placing through. In the software, you will see a template for regular sized wallets and die-cut wallets. There are alot of photo labs on line that make you order through ROES and its really easy, and ROES is free to download. Anyway, I hope you find what you're looking for. Good luck and I hope this was somewhat helpful in a pinch.
Lindsay


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1/4/2008 10:09:25 AM

 
Gregory LaGrange
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  Don't ask the customer.


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1/4/2008 10:26:58 AM

 
John P. Sandstedt
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  A standard business card is 2" X 3.5".

Go into Word and from the menu line, click Tools > Letters and Mailings > Envelopes and Labels. Choose the labels tab. Then select one of the standard busines card forms and click New Document. This will bring up a template for, usually, 10 business cards,

Use the Insert > From File feature and select one of the portraits you've shot. You'll have to adjust the size to satisfy the dimension of the business card. Do just one. Type in some typical business address info to simulate a business card. Print a page. Measure the photo.

You can use the copy feature and copy the card you created [Ctrl C] and paste in the remaining nine places on the sheet. Buy the appropriate Avery Label Stock from Staples or similar office supply store. Print your business cards [however, this will be expensive - the ink costs are prohibitive.]

Or, go to a print shop that does business cards and ask them what size and file format they'd like [you can use Staples, Kinko-FedEx, etc.]


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1/4/2008 10:32:18 AM

 
A C
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/6/2004
  are you kidding me? Aren't they using a graphic designer to create a business card??? Or do they just plan to slap some text on top of your picture?

Besides, do they want a bleed on the card??????? Do they want the image to go to the edges? That changes everything!

A graphic designer would take the full size image and handle this for them. Heck, a graphic design student could do this and properly prepare it for printing!


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1/4/2008 10:49:42 AM

 
W.   
John S's how-to could work if all business-cards-with-photos employed the same size and ratio. Alas, they don't! The size and ration of those photos is determined by the graphical layout of THAT particular company's business card. So ask your customer('s graphic designer) what size that is. YOU don't know that, THEY do.

Have fun!


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1/4/2008 10:52:44 AM

 
Sherry L. Davis
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/4/2007
  Thank you all so much for your answers. After reading them, I contacted the agency, asked them some of these questions, and they had me just put what I had on a CD and they will have them adjusted according to how they want their business cards. Each agent has a different style business card. They will have someone to design each agents business cards and crop and size the portraits accordingly. Thanks so much! I just thought since they asked me to make them business card size, there was a standard size photographers use! LOL! My first time at doing portraits for business cards like this. Again, thank you all so much! Sherry


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1/4/2008 11:01:27 AM

 
John P. Sandstedt
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  Sure wish all you wise guys would reread the question, which reflected what size a picture should be. The method I detailed allows this and, also, affords a way to make a limited number [price concerns] of cards.

My busines cards are made by cropping an image, as necessary, to reach the 2X3.5 dimensions. I use the type tool to add a small message.

But, I suggested the layout so that Sherry would get a feel for the size image she'd need.

But, I really don't need to apologize to anyone.

Just wish commenters on these threads could read . . .


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1/4/2008 11:03:53 AM

 
lindsay king
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/13/2007
  In regards to John's comment "But, I really don't need to aplogize to anyone. Just wish commenters on these threads could read..."

First of all, we are all at different points in our photography journeys and we don't all have the same expierence level as you. I myself am a beginner, and I offered up what ever practical advice I could. You never know what someone may find useful, so it doesn't hurt to throw in your two cents when it's asked for. What you may find too "novice" for the likes of yourself, someone else may find as very helpful. Being a beginner, I appreciate all the help I can get, even if sometimes it doesn't quite work, I may be able to apply the advice to another project in the future.
Secondly, although I don't expect an appology from you, nor does anyone else I'm sure, you may think twice next time about writing a comment to belittle other photographers, as we all know, you catch more flys with honey...


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1/4/2008 11:26:07 AM

 
John P. Sandstedt
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  Lindsay -

Sherry asked for help in "determining the size of an image for a business card" and, that's what I gave her.

If you think that's a criticism of some lesser expewrienced person, you just proved my point. You didn't read [understand] my suggestion.

As to other comments about graphic designers with regard to finding needed photo dimensions, I just don't see the need. The combination of Microsoft Office and Photoshop provides all anyone reasonably needs to size a picture for use on a business card. And,

I'm not a certified administrative assistant that can type 120 words per minute, nor a degreed graphics designer. I'd like to believe I'm just a homey, down-to-earth retiree with a little common sense - who offers help to many of the folks who ask questions on these threads.

But, I do feel the obligation to respond to unwarranted and unprovoked attacks from people that don't seem to get it.


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1/4/2008 11:43:16 AM

 
A C
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/6/2004
  I think it's sad that someone would consider printing nice photographs with text thrown on at a place like kinkos or staples. But hey, we all have our priorities.

We have discusions in here all the time about how to take quality images or find quality printers ... all to have these images printed with crummy printers.

I do apologize. I assumed quality might be a concern. But that wasn't part of the question. The question had absolutely nothing to do with quality. I'm sorry I assumed that it might be important.


And congrats on your first time doing these kind of portraits for a business! You have great photos in your gallery. I'm hoping this opportunity leads to more!


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1/4/2008 11:57:39 AM

 
lindsay king
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/13/2007
  John,

I wasn't responding to the advice you gave, I was responding for the additional post where you refered to other responders as "wise guys." I felt that it was just a little rude to try and make the advice of others seem pointless and stupid.


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1/4/2008 12:09:20 PM

 
John P. Sandstedt
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  Cherylann -

My business cards are based on my photos. In fact, at least one of the photos in my gallery serves as the "face" of the business card itself. I use the Photoshop Type Tool [which allows me to select a font from the entire Microsoft Word collection] to add name, e-amil address and phone number in a location that doesn't despoil the image.

The business describes my avocation as a photographer. I print on glossy photo paper and also matte photo paper,, the latter being far superior to business card stock.

I think it's sad that you wouldn't consider using a great image as a business card.

The recommendation I made - insert an image onto a business card template for, say an Avery Label. The remaining space on the card is used to add business information using Microsoft Word, and any of its fonts. The resultant template can be printed on a home printer or taken to a print shop like those at Staples or Kinko's.

If one chooses, the template of the single image [with words imbedded] can be taken to a Minuteman or Speedy Printer, Kinko's, etc. where a more formal printing process can be used. But, the template [also called "camera ready copy"} would be needed in any respect.

Obviously, Sherry's pictures were of such quality that her customer wanted them for the business cards of its employees. Terrific. Now, the customer must specify what s/he wants - a simple photocard or a double pass printing process assuring the printed text is raised on the card. Or, anything in between.

Once, again, Shery's question was directed at sizing the pictures. My response provided one way to do that and, also, a suggestion as to how a card could be laid out.


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1/4/2008 12:59:00 PM

 
W.   
So your complaint is basically: "You guys don't read good".

It looks like you think adding more and more explanatory text will 'cure' that problem . . .

LOL!


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1/4/2008 1:37:56 PM

 
Sherry L. Davis
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/4/2007
  Wow, I appriciate everyone's input. I know when I print a wallet size image, it prints larger than MPIX prints their wallet size images. I designed my business cards myself, too, with an image on it I took, I just didn't know if there was a "standard size" for business card portraits. :) Thank you all for your input and suggestions!


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1/4/2008 1:45:02 PM

 
A C
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/6/2004
  oops, communication error ...

I think it is a terrific idea to use an image on a card!!! But I don't like it when people just slap text on that great photo and print it with a crummy printer. Poor typography and poor printing in combination with a great photograph is not ... ideal.


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1/4/2008 1:46:13 PM

 
Sherry L. Davis
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/4/2007
  Cherylann, I understand. I just started a studio a couple months ago, it's going really good, but at first I printed my own set of business cards, people were asking for them, so I printed a stack. I then designed and ordered them to be printed elsewhere, and wow, there is a big difference in quality! :) Thanks!


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1/4/2008 1:54:22 PM

 
Gregory LaGrange
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  Hey, don't get mad at the baby.
Everybody else did read the question. She doesn't know what size the picture should be, cause she doesn't know what size and structure the font is going to be. She just thought there was a standard size, which there isn't.
the baby would be flipping you the finger be it doesn't have the motor skills yet.


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1/4/2008 2:31:41 PM

 
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