 Kathleen Rinker |
Spyder2 Express software I bought the Spyder2 Express package to calibrate my monitor. I wanted to know how to disable the adobe gamma in the start up folder. I typed in msconfig and went to the start up folder but I could not find the folder that contained the adobe gamma. My monitor is a Compaq FS740 with Coloreal. Any help would be appreciated.
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John Rhodes |
Kathleen , log on to the following url and scrol down to learn how to disable gamma. Most questions like this can be easily answered by "googling." I searched on "disable adobe gamma." http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=321608&sliceId=2
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Kathleen Rinker |
Thank you for the response John.
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Richard Lynch |
From ColorVision's materials: "Remove the Adobe Gamma icon from your Startup folder. This can be done by right-clicking on the Start button > go to Open or Open All Users > double-click PROGRAMS > double-click STARTUP. Right-click on Adobe Gamma or Adobe Gamma Loader.exe, and delete." I hope that helps! Richard
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Kathleen Rinker |
Thank you Richard that helps alot!!!
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Kathleen Rinker |
Richard, I did what you suggested only there was no Adobe Gamma folder. I don't get it, it should have been there right?
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Richard Lynch |
You want to remove Adobe Gamma from the startup -- it may not be a folder. You want to also uninstall it. This will make sure the program is not available and that it has been removed from startup activities. Richard
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Kathleen Rinker |
Richard-I am sorry to keep bugging you about this but I want to make sure I disable the right thing. I could not find the adobe gamma file so I did a search and found it in Programs, Adobe, Common Files, Calibration. In that file was Adobe Gamma (control panel), Adobe Gamma Loader and Adobe Gamma Readme. Which file do I delete, so as to not mess my computer all up? Or should I just not bother to calibrate my monitor since it seems to be a complicated process?
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Richard Lynch |
Not bother? One of the most critical things you need to do in all of image editing is calibrate your monitor. Calibration normalizes your screen so that what you see is a best view of the image. It also helps you set up an ICC profile which is used behind the scenes to enhance that view. Should you not calibrate, you are taking your chances that the monitor is correct and optimized out of the box all on its own, which is a situation I have NEVER found in all the years I have been working in digital imaging (about 16). You are taking a dice-roll on your finished product. If complexity is going to be a reason to not do something, photography may prove to be a difficult hobby. Things like lighting can be complex, exposure can be complex, image editing can be complex...Even getting images off your camera can be complex. However, the perception of complexity is usually amplified the first time you do something. It seems complex because you've not done it before. Once you do it, things seem a lot less complex. The reason I have a 4-week course in color management (From Monitor to Print: Photoshop Color Workflow) is because it isn't easy to figure out on your own. Calibration one of the first things I suggest in the course. But your issue here isn't even calibration, it is a nuisance with maintaining your system. Regretfully these maintenance issues are necessary, and you will encounter them for various issues throughout your life using computers -- so best to deal with them than sweep them under the rug. They don't go away on their own. I would do three things: a. remove the utility from your system To remove a program and check it is gone: It is likely that even if you were sloppier about this than what I just described that you would still not really ruin anything. Just install the Spyder software and run, and it will take care of changes behind the scenes. OK? Richard
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Kathleen Rinker |
Okay, I did all that, calibrated my monitor and when all was said and done it said "Sorry no calibration data was found in profile "Display 1_Monitor 0_4" for monitor "Compaq FS740 Color Monitor." Please select a different profile unsing "Profile Chooser." I assume that I have to go find the Coloreal files and delete them also as they are used on start up and then recalibrate. Am I correct?
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Richard Lynch |
I would suggest calling ColorVision technical support to be sure. I did not have a lot of issues after installing ColorVision -- it just took over. I don't think you'll do any harm in what you suggest, but it sounds like you are not completing calibration. Richard
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Kathleen Rinker |
Thank you Richard for all your help. I called ColorVision and was on hold forever so I hung up, but I will try again.
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Pam Kliment |
I installed spyder 2 express and calibrated my monitor. I usually use three light settings and set it for the most common. I wanted to start calibrating everything on my computer and read that this was the first step. I had hoped to eventually create three profiles for the different lights I work in; natural, overhead and spot, but to no avail. A couple weeks later, it said that I needed to recalibrate-I did so. The prints were really washed out and green. If I printed through my printer software, everything was fine. I got so frustrated with it that I uninstalled spyder. My photos are still green and washed out. I couldn't find my registration number to try to reinstall it and play around with it. All I want is to go back to the pre-calibration days where I made very nice prints. So, my question is-is the monitor ruined forever? Thanks.
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Richard Lynch |
"going back to pre-calibration" is not the right solution. If you don't calibrate your monitor, you simply can't trust what you see on screen. Calibration is imperative for accuracy. You are going to complicate the issue by calibrating for different lighting -- I wouldn't do it. However, I also wouldn't blame it all on the calibration. There are other issues that can easily be causing the problem -- for example, what color space are you working in? What profile do you embed if any? Calibration is only the first step...I teach a whole 4-week course dedicated to getting results (From Monitor to Print: Photoshop Color Workflow Your license comes with tech support. I would give them a call to be sure you are using the device correctly! Then take the steps you need to set up a logical color management scheme. When everything is in place you will be better able to judge color and assure the best results. Color management can be frustrating and it isn't easy -- and regretfully one step doesn't accomplish all of it. Richard Lynch
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Pam Kliment |
ok, thanks-I am going to do it again. The instructions about how to set it up were kind of confusing. That's why I thought I had to set it up for different lighting. However, I read earlier in this thread that I could just do it in a pitch (?) dark room and be done with it. Is that true? Thanks for your help pam
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Richard Lynch |
I wouldn't do that either. Set up the room lighting as you will be working in it. My room usually has minimal lighting set up so that I can see the keyboard and reading materials, but with no light pointing at or even near the screen (for me a single 100W bulb pointed at a white ceiling). Read your monitor manual, and follow instructions for calibration usually by setting the monitor to factory defaults. The calibration itself should be fairly simple. That is just the start of the color process! Richard Lynch
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Pam Kliment |
does it wear off? Two weeks after I calibrated it, I was getting meesages to do so again. Thanks for all of this, by the way.
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Richard Lynch |
Pam, It doesn't exactly 'wear off' as much as conditions may change. That is, monitors age, seasons change (which can affect lighting), and other factors may vary (e.g., painting your work room a different color). Every 2 weeks may be more frequent than you really need, and you can change the reminder frequency in the preferences. 2-weeks is thee default. Every 2 months is probably fine--unless you have a reason to calibrate again. Hope that helps! Richard Lynch
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Richard Lynch |
Pam, It doesn't exactly 'wear off' as much as conditions may change. That is, monitors age, seasons change (which can affect lighting), and other factors may vary (e.g., painting your work room a different color). Every 2 weeks may be more frequent than you really need, and you can change the reminder frequency in the preferences. 2-weeks is thee default. Every 2 months is probably fine--unless you have a reason to calibrate again. Hope that helps! Richard Lynch
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