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Steve McCroskey
 

How to shoot red ball sunsets


How can I shoot red ball sunsets with a NikonD70s,using either a Nikkor 18-55 lens or a Nikkor 55-200 lens?


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7/18/2007 2:05:45 PM

 
Mark Feldstein
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/17/2005
  First, you need a "red ball" type of sunset which is pretty much dependent on atmospheric conditions including particulate matter, cloud formations and where you are positioned in relation to the horizon at sunset. Los Angeles, given all it's atmospheric pollution, gets some great sunsets for that reason. Once you have those elements, just wait for the right second, point, meter and click.
take it light.
Mark


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7/18/2007 7:44:41 PM

 
Samuel Smith
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/21/2004
  hey steve,
marks right.and with a bit more patience i'll offer this.at least 300mm.if you want a good red ball ya need to pull it even closer.500 to 6oomm.under good conditions.
at the right times and conditions you can meter off the sun.under the wrong conditions you could damage your eyes.
seems ya been here quite a while.
merci.


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7/18/2007 10:02:16 PM

 
Gregory LaGrange
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/11/2003
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  Are people calling a red ball sunset something different than the way the sun looks right above the horizon?
With clear skies, you always get the red, round sun right before it goes below the horizon. Without particulates, you get a clearer view of the sun.


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7/18/2007 11:02:11 PM

 
John P. Sandstedt
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  Place a red ball on a piece of black velvet. Take picture.

Scan resulting print or transfer digital image to computer. USe Photoshop to bring up image. Use selection tool to copy the red ball.

Then paste it into a picture you've taken of a clea, deep blue sky.

Or, set your camera for auto-bracketting, if you have the capability. Take meter reading of the sky nearthe sun, but don't include the sun. Re-compose your picture and shoot. You'll get three images, one over- and one under-exposed from the metered values.

Check LCD to see if you like the results. If not, try again.


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7/19/2007 8:13:09 AM

 
Samuel Smith
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/21/2004
  i must have missed something steve,gallery says minolta 5d,yet nikon d70.well,not my call.
conditions need to be right.i don't care where you live,what camera you have,but you need to pull up the sun.
at 600mm the da.. thing will; be huge.
humidity and dew points need to be learned.
you can show up 6 nites in a row and nothing,but the 10th nite,math might be off here.
or dare I say create your own as suggested?
i know some patience may be involved,months.ya can't just walk out and get one,but I guess through deception and editing it may be created.
bracketing will distract you from your goal,it did me.
f8 to f11 and about 1/2 sec.but put it off to the side a wee bit,sam


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7/19/2007 9:14:01 PM

 
Gregory LaGrange
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  All you need is no cloud cover at the horizon during sunset.

And a respite from paranoia .


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7/20/2007 2:58:28 AM

 
Samuel Smith
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/21/2004
  ok,so I agree with greg on the paranoyance thing.sp.
but you can also catch it drifting down through the clouds,which will be few because of the conditions.
high humidity and haze or dust,otherwise it will still be yellow.there will be no wind,nare a trace.you may sweat just waiting.the best times are mid to late august in my area.crickets are um,busy,hence the noise.frogs are,i guess, mimicking crickets.maybe,if your lucky,or unlucky,perspective,the hawk will enjoy bugs bunny for supper.like the commercial says,ya gotta eat.
or go ahead and use the clea blue skies or wait for no clouds at sunset.
with a red ball,it's pretty straight metering.on a tripod just move the camera right or left a few degrees.then follow with a few with the sun way to one side .
ah well,sam


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7/20/2007 7:12:14 PM

 
Gregory LaGrange
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/11/2003
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  Sun is yellow higher in the sky. Sunset, it gets orange. Right above the horizon, it gets red. Dust will get the rest of the sky to look red.


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7/21/2007 11:50:42 AM

 
Sharon  Day
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/27/2004
  "First, you need a "red ball" type of sunset which is pretty much dependent on atmospheric conditions including particulate matter, cloud formations and where you are positioned in relation to the horizon at sunset. Los Angeles, given all it's atmospheric pollution, gets some great sunsets for that reason. Once you have those elements, just wait for the right second, point, meter and click.

OR wait until Yellowstone is on fire again. We had some awesome red ball sunsets here in 1988 :D.


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7/21/2007 12:16:33 PM

 
Samuel Smith
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/21/2004
  minus the tragic event smoke and ash would give some nice ones.
you can also get some great sillhouettes if you look.somebody's maybe not wrong,but a bit misinformed.
good luck steve.


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7/21/2007 7:17:58 PM

 
Mark Feldstein
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/17/2005
  ". . .and I think the worst is over now. Yes it's gonna be alright. The morning sun is shining like a red (rubber) ball."

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7/21/2007 7:24:40 PM

 
Gregory LaGrange
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/11/2003
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  So are you calling a red ball sunset something that looks different than the round shape you see of the sun at sun set?


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7/21/2007 7:52:21 PM

 
Samuel Smith
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/21/2004
  not the dave clark 5.oh geeez.
not the typical orange sunset greg.red,redd,red.bigger.with pollutants or humidity/dust/smoke/ash.kinda rare.
um,jay and the americans.


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7/21/2007 8:53:38 PM

 
Mark Feldstein
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/17/2005
  Maybe he means a "Robyn Ball" sunset?
Sorry, I just HAD to get that one in.
I think I'm going to stick to train problems. :<0( M.


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7/22/2007 10:47:56 AM

 
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