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Desiree C. Preckwinkle
 

Why cant I upload music to my show?


I am creating a slideshow for a client, however cannot get any of my music to work. I downloaded it from Itunes, and in my computer folder, it says the file is "protected" What does this mean? I hope there Is some other way to do this. I need a wav. or other file, but this seems to be a m4p file? Any inormation please. I even tried signing up for yahoo photos and downloaded the songs but that would not even download the songs for me. I am LOST!


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January 21, 2007

 

Gretchen J. Gilkey
  Desiree, I'm not sure what program you are using to make your slideshow, but I have run across this problem in the past when using PowerPoint. You will need to change the format of your music to a wav.........I have used Itunes downloader/player for this - Hope this helps! gretchen


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January 21, 2007

 
- Carlton Ward

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  Hi Desiree,
I use ProShow Gold to make my slideshows. It is a ram hog but it is really great in that you can set the times of each slide & transition and pick from a large selection of transition effects and place a soundtrack with it (which also shows you how long your slideshow & music is) so you can match them up. You can make an intro and type any message on any slide that you want. For the images you can zoom in/out, pan side to side or up/down and even rotate the image. I also ONLY use wav files for my music. After you finish, just burn yourself a DVD and then you can play it in any DVD player.
I think BP even has a course for using ProShow but I have used this for about 4 years now.
There are also wav converters but I am not sure they will convert MP3 to wav ?? I know they can convert wav to MP3 or FLAC to wave. wav is an uncompressed format and MP3 are compressed which may be why some programs don't like them.


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January 21, 2007

 

Desiree C. Preckwinkle
  Hi there. I do use Itunes for my music downloading. It seems to be put in the form of a M4p file (have no clue what it is) And I need a wav file. Also when using Itunes, after I go into Program Files: My Music: I-tunes: and then select the song, it says it is protected. Any other info??? Thanks for your help.
Desiree


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January 21, 2007

 

Desiree C. Preckwinkle
  Thanks Carlton. When I move my cursor over the song file, it says it is a MPEG-4 audtio file (protected) I have no clue why none of my music files are not in wav or mp3 form. I also tried using my slideshow gold program with the same results, no luck. Any idea how I can get them to the proper form?
Thanks
Desiree


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January 21, 2007

 
- Carlton Ward

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  You may also go to the folder where your music is stored and check the property settings. It may be the M4p file it doesn't recognize.? Maybe do a search for whichever program you are using and for M4p files.
check:
http://www.blazemp.com/convert_protected_aac.htm


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January 21, 2007

 

Christopher A. Vedros
  Desiree,
The files that you buy from iTunes are in a proprietary format that will play only in iTunes or on an iPod. This is to help slow down illegal copying of music (I say slow down because nothing can completely stop it).

I'm not saying that I approve of copying music for illegal purposes. I own lots & lots of music from many sources and I don't share any of it on Napster or Limewire or any of the other arenas that teenagers use to pirate music.

But I will share with you a way that I've worked around the same problem for something that I considered legal use of the music. My son has an iPod, and I have purchased lots of songs from iTunes for him. My younger kids got Fisher-Price FP3 music players for Christmas. You can only import music to these players from an audio CD. You can't import MP3 files or M4P files. But I could burn the purchased songs to an audio CD in iTunes, then import them to the Fisher-Price program.

In the same way, you could burn an audio CD in iTunes, then import the songs to MP3 files in Windows Media Player.

Of course, just because you can do something, doesn't necessarily mean that you are allowed to do something. I feel completely justified with the file copies that I made. If each of my kids had an iPod brand player, I could have easily put the purchased music on each of them, with Apple's approval. The younger kids just have a different brand of player and I don't think that should prevent me from using the music that I purchased.

Putting music on a slideshow is a different story, though, if you are selling this to a client. Paying 99 cents for a song on iTunes does not mean that you have unlimited rights to the song and can re-sell it as your product (or as part of your product).

Again, I know that this is done all the time, but that doesn't mean that it is legal to do it. You could do some research on music copyright laws to find out what you can legally do with music you purchase. Or you can look into "royalty-free" music for use in slideshows.

Sorry so long-winded.

Chris A. Vedros
www.cavphotos.com


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January 22, 2007

 

Jerry Frazier
  all you have to do is burn to a cd from itunes. make sure when you burn, you select mp3. then, copy that song back into itunes from the cd, and you will have an mp3 file.

it's a way that itunes tries to protect the artists copyright, by making it difficult to duplicate the songs and put them on other players and things. but, it doesn't really stop anyone, it just makes it a pain in the butt.

also, copyrighted music is illegal to sync to pictures. i'm not the law, so I don't give a crap. but, I am telling you because there is a slight risk, depending on how you plan on distributing this slideshow. if it's on the web, the music companies do sometimes scan the web for illegal use of their music.

IF YOU PUT PICTURES TO COPYRIGHTED MUSIC, IT IS ILLEGAL. No matter how you justify it, no matter what you THINK, no matter if you bought the right to use the music, if you have not purchased a specific license for syncing music to that specific song, you are breaking federal copyright law and can be prosecuted.

Now, the chances of getting caught are slim. But, why take the chance? I do realize that most people are so clueless about this, and the risk is so teeny tiny. I'm just letting you know the risks. As I say this, there will be 800 people that come on and say they do it all the time. You will find photographers websites who have illegal music on them. You will find all kind of businesses and people using music illegally. Practically every wedding I go to has a slideshow the DJ or video guy puts together that is sync'd to music. I live in Los Angeles, and just can't believe that people do that so blatently. But, they do.

So, take what I said with a complete grain of salt. All I'm saying is that it is illegal. And, just kind of warning you to the reality of this whole issue. I strongly feel that within the next 5 years, the music industry is going to attack a few unsuspecting people with some very serious jail time and fines for illegal use. I just feel it's in the air right now.

On the professional photographer side, there are lots of communications going on with the music industry about this issue, and the music industry is stamping their feet and saying "NO". So, with this, someone will get smart and start investigating how much illegal use is going on.

I think it will happen as the musicians continue to choke with all the downloading and illegal use going on.

Just my $.02

Off topic, but hopefully informative.

I told you how, and told you why you shouldn't. You choose.


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January 22, 2007

 

Christopher A. Vedros
  Hey Jerry,
Maybe I'm just missing something, but when I've tried to burn mp3 discs with songs purchased in iTunes (m4p files), it always tells me that the songs are protected and can't be converted to mp3. That's why I said that I had to burn them to an audio disc first.

Chris A. Vedros
www.cavphotos.com


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January 22, 2007

 

Gretchen J. Gilkey
  There is a site called freeplaymusic.com that allows downloads and has reasonable purchasing prices for what you want to do. Just read their licensing agreement - you can contact them if you have any questions.


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January 22, 2007

 

Jerry Frazier
  Hey Chris,

When you burn them to a disc from ITunes, not out of the library, but directly from ITunes by clicking on the "burn disc" icon, you can select, in preferences, that you want it to burn an MP3. It's a stupid thing. But, basically, you are creating a backup disc, and you can choose any format you want for that. Then, when you put it back into ITunes, it will be an MP3 file. I do it all the time.

But, you cannot just right click on the file and change it to an MP3 file, it wont let you do that. And, you cannot go the the folder and burn the tune, that wont work either. It has to be done within ITunes.


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January 22, 2007

 

Christopher A. Vedros
  Thanks Jerry. I thought I had tried to do it that way, but maybe I'll give it another shot.

Chris


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January 22, 2007

 

Desiree C. Preckwinkle
  Wow, thanks to all your input. I had NO idea that this was illegal. I am not trying to get in trouble at all, and with the slideshow program, I was able to manage to use the background tunes that came with that. As for me though, I do want to create my own slideshow for personal use only to capture my daughters 1st year in pictures. Not for sale at all. Just for good ol' me! I will debate if all this trouble is worth the outcome.
Thanks again for all the informative info.
Desiree


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January 22, 2007

 
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