 Kathy Owen |
posing 15 people How would I pose 15 people
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Samuel Smith |
nude
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LOL!
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gregbrileyphotography.com - Greg Briley Contact Greg Briley Greg Briley's Gallery |
Funny Funny all. This seems to be a subject that is hard to get a clear answer on. Can someone answer this question about posing people and not get off on tangents like lighting? I have a weekend gig with 11 people together. The main person is well known person with he and his family. Any serious answers would be appreciated.
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Samuel Smith |
inside,outside? flash allowed?family? coroporate? reunion?parts managers? zorro get together? pedifiles? book publishers? the simpsons and crustys family? president bush and his war monger group? hilarious ain't it? well known or the bum in the alley, get a grip there gumby. I have had a clue before,but at least I picked the pipe in the study,sam
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W. |
Vague questions sollicit vague answers.
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A C |
close. Put 'em close together ... especially if they are family. Put 'em closer together than they are used to. It will seem ackward to them, but at least the photo will look normal. And about the lighting (I know, I know, no tangents - but I have to say it), make sure there aren't terrible shadows on people faces. You wouldn't put a tall person in front of a short person, right? So make sure Aunt Ruth's shadow isn't covering Timmy's face. How do you do this? Well, that bit of information will have to be saved for a real tangent. If you're still at a loss, do a search in the forum with key words like Pose and Group. I'm sure we have had better answers before.
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gregbrileyphotography.com - Greg Briley Contact Greg Briley Greg Briley's Gallery |
Sorry, guys for the vagueness of my approach. It had been a long day, and in retrospect, I see your point that I was too lazy. Except, Sam, the "picked the pipe" part I didn't understand. But, I did enjoy the rest of your satire. No harm taken. Cherylann, thanks for your thoughtful input. I am okay with the lighting. I'll be bouncing two of my sb800s off the ceiling, which are controlled by settings in my nikon d200. That camera is awesome. The posing is what I have a hard time with. This is one of those things where my work in other arenas has been appreciated and I get asked to do something I am not as experienced in doing. I don't turn it down, but rather turn to BP and other resources to research as much as possible, go out and practice what I've learned, and then show up to the venue early to get comfortable with the gig. I haven't failed yet, but this posing thing just eludes me. I'll be looking at as many online group examples that I can find. Anyhoo, the photo gig will be for this person's family (about 11 in all with a couple of kids and the rest, adults) in between scheduled events back stage in a tight room (maybe 20' x 30') The photo will be sent as a Christmas card to fans with a Merry Christmas wish. Okay, Sam, W.S. et al, hope that is enough detail (maybe even tmi). Let's hear some answers ...
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W. |
OK, so you're cool with lighting. Background taken care of? Next: props. Two kinds. Xmas props (tree, Santa hats, snow, candles, glitter, starbursts), this is a Xmas card after all, and props relative to the family/central figure. Research! Who are they, what are their relationships, what is the pivotal figure's passion/hobby. Work something of that into the scene. Think about how to, technically, seat people. Got chairs? Stools? Crates? Tables? Benches? Couches? What? Once you've worked through all of that the poses will come to you.
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Samuel Smith |
hey greg,i was refering to the old clue game.a mystery.kinda. there was not,tmi.we know not these people. so you want to move into beliefs and political correctness.. seems fair. you will have to make the call on your assesment of your evaulation of the group.a call we all have to make. sometimes smiles are a camoflouge,and very fake, not 1,2,3. sam
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Raymond H. Kemp |
I think your lightning will still be a challenge considering the number of people in the shot. I too use the Nikon D-200 with several SB-800 strobes all controlled by the SU-800 commander attached to my camera. You’re right, its’ an awesome camera. With that many people depending on how you have them posed, shadows showing up under the chins may present themselves. Instead of using one of the SB-800’s as the master controller on your camera, move it off camera and use the D-200 built in flash to trip the two SB-800s. The built in flash will give you some fill to soften any chin shadows. You may also consider using the room ambient light as well. You can use the ambient light as primary and fill with the SB-800’s. Or vice versa. Be sure to adjust your white balance for the type of light for instance florescent lighting. Also remember to gel your SB-800’s with the green filters (the ones that come with the unit) if you’re white balancing to fluorescent lighting. Good luck! Sam, Miss Scarlet in the library with the rope.
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W. |
Well, here's a musing that popped up: It's not really original, but it's effective. And every execution is different. It can be a lively image anyhow: they all come doffed in their best festive Xmas garb. The idea is to have 'm toast the camera gaily. With glasses and wine or champagne and a bottle standing on the table or in someone's hand, Xmas party decorations and sparkles and specular highlights galore. Which you can, selectively, enhance into little starbursts (PP). If you're really good you can make the bubbles in the toasting glasses visible... On a sidenote: if you have anything to do with the actual layout of the Xmas card, try to make it not read 'Merry Xmas', but 'Season's Greetings', or something similarly neutral, instead. Staying away of any religious indications. Not everybody appreciates them.
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Samuel Smith |
it's never the butler. after a while,even cherylann seems to have a bit of the grinch.ehh. thanks ws..though others say your a moron,their is even hope for me.i actually thought yours was the best input.moron. I only entrust those I name call with an honor.that I believe their intent is the same as mine.no regret. mentor has no qualms.you will be better than i. an unjust word is just a misunderstanding or lack of knowledge. sam
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W. |
All your base are belong to us, Sam!
"[...] use the D-200 built in flash to trip the two SB-800s. The built in flash will give you some fill to soften any chin shadows." If you use the pop-up flash as trigger for the two SB-800's, it's effect will not be visible in the photo. To open up/fill in shadows, a (foamcore) reflector is your friend. Cheap and effective. For 15 people, use 2 BIG ones.
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Raymond H. Kemp |
W.S.: The D200 built in Command Mode will allow you to control two flash groups as well as the built in flash. Done it on mine many times until I purchased the SU-800 module. Ray
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