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Stacy L. Robertson
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2006
 

Photoshop????????????


I hate to be the only one with a passion for digital photography to NOT use Photoshop. I have nothing against it, I have seen some georgeous images on this website that were put through PS but to tell you the truth...I couldn't figure it out! LOL Guess I'm just in it for the fun. Anyone else like me? Stacy


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6/29/2006 7:00:41 PM

 
Mike Rubin
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/15/2004
  You do not need PS to get great images, That starts with what you can do when you put a camera up to your eye. However, it is a fact that if you use a DSLR then your images are always a little softer than with a P&S. It has to do with a filter over the sensor and "in camera processing" All Jpeg files are processed in the camera to begin with,usually acording to parameters you set in your menus.JMO but editing software is used more by people with a DSLR than a P&S.And although PS is the most popular there are many others on the market that will more than satisfy many of us.


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6/29/2006 9:34:27 PM

 
Pat Worster
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/21/2004
  Stacey, I have a couple different photo editing programs including photoshop but I use the other programs the most. Photoshop, at least for me is not very user friendly, but I am learning thanks to the talented people here and someday soon I am going to take another course.


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6/30/2006 4:17:49 AM

 
Sharon  Day
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/27/2004
  Photoshop seems overwhelming at first but if you stick to it and read tutorials it gets easier. I have Photoshop for Dummies. This book comes in handy when I need to figure out how to do something specifically.


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6/30/2006 4:23:43 AM

 
Gunjan Karun
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/30/2006
  Hi Stacy,
I never needed photoshop until I got my dSLR.

After that, I cannot publish a single photo without processing with Photoshop first.

The benefit is that the colors, sharpness and compositions have improved.

The cost: now it takes longer to release my photos.

If you take photography seriously I suggest you get comfortable with Photoshop or any other image editing software.
It will add another level to your photos.

Just my 2c.
-Gunjan


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6/30/2006 4:30:21 AM

 
Scott H.   Try Picasa from Google (it's a free download). It is very simple to use and can do a lot of basic and some advanced editing. If you just want to enhance your colors, sharpen, crop, change to b&w, tint, etc., Picasa would be great for you. IMO, Photoshop is for advanced users, not for someone (I think) like you (and me).


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6/30/2006 7:54:38 AM

 
Slim Brady 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/1/2006
  PS is the best thing out there. Aparature got bad reviews from the pros. Its like everything, if you have the right tools, your work will stand out. If there were a better program than PS I'd use it.


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6/30/2006 8:26:01 AM

 
Jagadeesh Andrew Owens   Brady, I'm ready to see some of your work! Where is it?


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6/30/2006 8:55:54 AM

 
Slim Brady 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/1/2006
  UMB&ATC


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6/30/2006 8:56:38 PM

 
Oliver Anderson
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/16/2004
  Stacy, Do this and if you dont like it I'll buy it back, seriously. This book is like the cliff notes of photoshop, Scott Kelby the photoshop CS2 Book. I've bought 5 copies for professional photographer friends and shoplifted 7, no one watches the camera photoshop area because we're all dorks. Anyways because I'm so great with photoshop I was able to meet a lot of models and become cool(i couldn't sing or play guitar) You'll find it an amazing tool and the enjoyment never ends, there is nothing I love more than photoshop correcting 500 photos after a 10 hour shoot with a bitchy model. Its the best. There are other great books recommended by the members of this site and I'd buy them all.


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7/1/2006 2:19:21 AM

 
Oliver Anderson
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/16/2004
  What up Brady, I would have expected at least a little laugh on those comments, they were some of my better BP comments. I'm trying to become the wisea$$ of this site since we already have very knowledgable photographers...you know to keep the mood lite.


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7/1/2006 2:22:40 AM

 
Pete H
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/9/2005
  Hi Stacey,

without going into all the benefits of Adobe PS, or other image editing programs, here is an area when you will want to use it....Cloning out dust spots. LOL Serious. Sooner or later, if you are using a DSLR, you will have to clean the sensor, (or have a pro do it)..

Right now mine is ready to be cleaned as I am cloning out about 6 spots when there is a lot of sky in the photo.

All the best


Pete


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7/1/2006 4:23:15 AM

 
Stacy L. Robertson
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2006
  Thank-you everyone for your great advice. I use two different cameras one is a minolta dimage and the other is a fuji s9000. My first camera of course was a canon ae-1. I love the fact that I don't have to lug around all those extra lenses, and since my passion is portraits, the zoom levels on both cameras fill my needs perfectly. As far as editing goes..I try to keep it as natural as possible and I use HP image zone and Photo Explosion. They get the job done for me. If I ever do get into Photoshop...at least I know I have friendly photographers out there that will give me a hand. Thanks again to all.


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7/1/2006 11:46:11 AM

 
Oliver Anderson
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/16/2004
  Pete, I'm with you on cleaning he sensor it is a PITHA so I usually just tell people its a blurry bird in the background of the motorcycles or cars driving by and people believe it. JK I listed a great sensor cleaner brush on the product question area, I use it in between races and my sensor is in great shape.


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7/2/2006 11:21:45 PM

 
anonymous A.    I use PhotoShop, but only to keep my hand in so I understand what others are talking about in their calls for help. For me, PaintShopPro is the way to go. Compared with PS it's fast, logical, takes up less memory, and its cheap to boot... cheaper than some of the books written to explain how to get simple jobs done in PS!


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7/3/2006 5:38:59 AM

 
Pete H
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/9/2005
  David;
There is NOTHING "simple" in Adobe PS! LMAO!!!...and no kidding on the price of the books..Man!..I have 7 books on Adobe PS and still feel I'm learning; and it's a memory hog too! Poor utilization of memory by the programmers. But; I love it. Really enjoy sitting in front of my computer for hours on end getting that last little subtle ounce of RGB gamut. LOL

Pete


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7/3/2006 6:33:38 AM

 
Jagadeesh Andrew Owens   David - you're right! I purchased PSP X this weekend and I love it! I use it now and PSE 4. PSCS2 is just too much unless you want to edit the HELL out of your photos. I would recommend either PSP X or PSE 4 to the originator of the thread...


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7/3/2006 6:38:01 AM

 
Slim Brady 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/1/2006
  bitchy about 10hr shoot. As the model they don't understand. I have actually, while holding the reflector heard the model say "just press the f#(king button".

I just got back from a busy weekend Oliver, yes I found that funny ( a little too clean though)


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7/3/2006 9:18:29 AM

 
Gregory LaGrange
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/11/2003
gregorylagrange.org
  " Brady, I'm ready to see some of your work! Where is it?"


Either in his art gallery in Nigeria, or relocated to British Columbia. Not sure which.


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7/3/2006 11:22:53 AM

 
Jagadeesh Andrew Owens   You've lost me, Gregory. And LaShady - I didn't quite catch those letters up there......


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7/3/2006 11:26:24 AM

 
Jagadeesh Andrew Owens   You've lost me, Gregory. And LaShady - I didn't quite catch those letters up there......


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7/3/2006 11:26:25 AM

 
Slim Brady 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/1/2006
  do you actually think I want to drag my name through the mud (already done that verbally). And then to staple that to my work (bad idea). I could never show my photos as you know me. I can tell you that you are about 10% better than I am. Soon I will be quiting my day job to devote 80% of my time towards photography. I would have never done this without the in-person remarks from others nor would I charge high prices without seeing the others around me doing it. I charge by comparison.

Ok Big Brother


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7/3/2006 11:32:39 AM

 
Jagadeesh Andrew Owens   Who in the h*ll was that tirade against? If me, I was just curious and wanted to see some of your work. Smoke a joint or something, hothead.


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7/3/2006 11:38:33 AM

 
Slim Brady 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/1/2006
  Im all out of the s#!t right now. I must say that there is a part of my mind that is really creative when I light up. I become super creative, but then I can't hold still (laughing at everything).

I'd rather stay in the closet, hehe.


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7/3/2006 11:49:00 AM

 
Jagadeesh Andrew Owens   Come on out! I can tell you it's a lot brighter out of it!! LOL!


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7/3/2006 11:55:42 AM

 
Slim Brady 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/1/2006
  but I like the shadows, more mysterious


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7/3/2006 12:21:39 PM

 
Jagadeesh Andrew Owens   You're right, I don't know why I said that, I am a pretty dark and dreary homo...LOL


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7/3/2006 12:23:26 PM

 
Slim Brady 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/1/2006
  I'm into curves and I love mysterious women (just would never marry one). I'll probably marry a women that has a good job so I can keep buying more equipment.

People love my images because of the shadows which I look for when shooting. They look more real shot that way.


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7/3/2006 12:36:22 PM

 
Jagadeesh Andrew Owens   Yeah, sounds like a sugar mama is the way to go. Wish I could see your shots, as I love shadows too, and strive for them..If you look at my gallery you can see this (though there are some brightly lit ones, as the judges here love BRIGHTNESS). Check out my barbie chronicles series at www.siphoeish.photoreflect.com.


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7/3/2006 12:40:22 PM

 
Stacy L. Robertson
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2006
  Wow what a conversation this has become..Shadows are great, I don't light up (unless it's a ciggarette), and I hope someday I will understand Photoshop.


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7/3/2006 3:30:31 PM

 
Gregory LaGrange
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/11/2003
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  A lot of those were good


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7/3/2006 9:51:18 PM

 
Oliver Anderson
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/16/2004
  This site is the best...Brady and Sipho can now report to the IN CROWD group as long as they continue the banter for us to read. Oh yeah and Brady you're better off staying single and buying the equipment on your own...its cheaper Trust Me


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7/3/2006 10:48:04 PM

 
Gregory LaGrange
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/11/2003
gregorylagrange.org
  What in crowd?
What mud?
10% of what?
A T and T & U S C?


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7/3/2006 11:03:27 PM

 
Jagadeesh Andrew Owens   Thank you, Gregory, if that was directed at me. If not, it should have been. LOLOL


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7/4/2006 11:25:49 AM

 
Gregory LaGrange
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/11/2003
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  The house/church wasn't as clear as I thought it would be from the thumbnail,(maybe from the web site) but the high contrast fit well with the shapes and look of it. The black and white leaves and the darker green monotone version I liked. The toad, piano and some others.

Nigeria is where Shady La Paulsen said he had his art gallery, but when I later asked him what city, he said British Columbia area.


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7/4/2006 9:32:10 PM

 
Slim Brady 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/1/2006
  UMB & ATC UpMyButAndAroundTheCorner,
thought you'd get that one. BC is correct inspector.


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7/5/2006 2:43:47 AM

 
Jagadeesh Andrew Owens   Got the UMB part but the around the corner threw me!


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7/5/2006 5:05:15 AM

 
Gregory LaGrange
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/11/2003
gregorylagrange.org
  I'm not inspector because you're the one saying stuff like you have a gallery in Nigeria, that's now in British Columbia. Like if somebody announced they bought a big house in France, they'd get asked which city you'd buy it in?
Northern Nebraska
What happened to France?
Whatcha' gettin' upset about if you're the one who brought it up?


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7/5/2006 10:31:29 AM

 
Slim Brady 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/1/2006
  Nigeria was the joke, you know, where all the money order scams are coming from.


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7/5/2006 11:46:44 AM

 
Gregory LaGrange
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/11/2003
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  Ooohh. So what city in British Columbia is your art gallery in?


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7/5/2006 12:02:29 PM

 
Jagadeesh Andrew Owens   Not to beat a man in the ground, but to quote Rodney King "Why can't we all just get along?".....LOLOL


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7/5/2006 12:07:48 PM

 
Slim Brady 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/1/2006
  I told you I ain't gonna staple that to my polaroid


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7/5/2006 12:14:04 PM

 
Gregory LaGrange
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/11/2003
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  Aaaahhh, so the circus is coming to town, but they just can't say which towns. Oh well, guess that's how it goes sometimes.


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7/5/2006 12:45:47 PM

 
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