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Group discussion and support I just wanted to start a discussion group of people who just want to chat about anything and everything to do with photography. And just support eachother!!
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Gregory LaGrange
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Would be nice if there were a website for that.
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Justin G.
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photosig, apug, photo.net
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Christopher A. Vedros
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How about Betterphoto.com??
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Debby A. Tabb
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There is plenty of web sites for that including betterphoto.com. the best thing to me is to browes through the different threads on the types of photography that intrest you.
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Christopher A. Vedros
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Dawn, Sorry if Gregory & I sounded a bit sarcastic. But seriously, chat & support about anything and everything to do with photography is pretty much why most of us are here. Feel free to start a thread about anything, and you're bound to find someone who'll join in. The categories that you have to choose from when you post are just guidelines, as far as I'm concerned. I think most of us "regular contributors" check all new questions, not just particular categories. At least that's what I do. Welcome aboard! Chris
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Dawn T. Palmerley
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Hi, Sorry, but I just wanted a place to chat where the "leader" isn't ragging about everything because she/he didn't start or intend for the conversation to change into something that she/he didn't start. Some people in here (not saying any names) seem to be like that and it's not fair to people who just want to have a conversation and discuss interests and talents and also once in a while get a "pat" on the back from others.
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Christopher A. Vedros
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Dawn, I know some of the discussions can get heated here at times, but it's usually on big topics that people have really strong feelings about. We can have lighthearted chats, too. Some people around here are even funny. Give it a shot. Start a topic and see what happens. Chris
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Dawn T. Palmerley
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Well Chris.... let's see if anyone wants to talk about......poses for portraits and set up. Any ideas? For example, I have a session coming up with a 2 yr old and 8 week old sisters. I don't have much for backdrops either. A huge light blue one and basic fabric here and there, whites, pinks, etc. I'm trying to figure out how to work this out. Any suggestions would be great!
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Brendan Knell
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Dawn, a good thread to ask that question on would be the "Studio Photographers #17"
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Dawn T. Palmerley
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Yeah, I'm part of that one too. But I'm finding that I'm not getting answers. So I figured I would try another place.
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Nobu Nagase
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I may be wrong on this but I thought there is a Yahoo Group of very close knit bunch of BP'ers here. I don't know who is moderating one... Someone posted a thread about it once. It would be good if there is a group like it but it has to be open to wider general audience. To be successful for this, however, it has to have a good moderator, the task sometimes may not be easy nor simple. BP does not facilitate a chat group, I believe you will have to start a Yahoo Group or something similar. As others stated above, this Q&A board works well most of the time for many people.
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Dawn T. Palmerley
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I don't understand why I can't start it here. (????) Just a place where someone can come in, mention somthing that happened to them, or whatever (photographically speaking of course) or stuff they're having difficulties with or need opinions on. I don't want to go into individual topics for that because it's too time consuming for one, and it's nice to get to know the same people as you're going along. Make sense?
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Christopher A. Vedros
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Dawn, I'll think about your photo shoot and try to post something tomorrow. It's time for bed. Hope everyone had a Happy Valentine's Day. Chris
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Dawn T. Palmerley
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Thanks Chris!! Goodnight and Happy Valentines Day!! HAPPY VALENTINES TO EVERYONE!!
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Amy JACKSON Contact Amy Amy's Gallery |
Hi Dawn, I don't have much of an idea as far as poses go, but I took a picture of my baby once and took the toy bar off of his bouncy chair and draped a velour throw it for something to sit him on. Hope this helps any! Amy
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Nobu Nagase
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I see now what you are getting at..., something like Studio-Photography thing... I am not a portrait person and I don't know what's going on there but, it seems to be very active. If there is enough interests in what you have in mind for discussion, it will work.
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Dawn T. Palmerley
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Amy- Thanks! That's a good idea. I did that for my oldest son (5) when he was a baby also. I totally forgot about that thing. I think I got rid of it, I'll have to find another one.
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Brenda D. 
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Dawn, I know how you feel ive ask too and havent gotten any response I would love to know more about posing but cant find a thread on JUST posing ideas. will your photos be for easter or are they just for photo sake ?
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Gregory LaGrange
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Get them big hats and just wait. Time to change the subject.
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Brenda D.
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we can have more than one subject :)
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Dawn T. Palmerley
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No, if I change the subject now, I won't get an answer will I!! lol That's the problem with other threads. Anyone here can start another subject. Go ahead! Brenda- it's just for pictures.
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Christopher A. Vedros
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Gregory, that's the opposite of helping.
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Dawn, it's funny that you bring this up because I hate reading a discussion that goes all over the place. it drives me insane. I like a nice organized website where the content of each discussion is easily searchable and I can get to it. it's not about todays discussion, it's about being able to get to that content a year from now and being able to understand it and follow it. what you are describing is a blog or something similar. that's fine, but it doesn't work. just like the stream of conciousness crap that failed in the 60's when everyone was writing books with no puctuation, no real point, and no real thought. just a stream of random thoughts. while it seems neat, it sucks to read through all that crap and figure out what the point was. Jack Kerouak (SP?) did it about the best, I guess. at least he was interesting. but, it just can't work because someone jumping in has to read thru a bunch of useless stuff to get to the one tiny nugget they wanted. Where, had the discussions bee organized, it would have been found quickly. sorry I can't help with the photography question. I don't use pre-made backgrounds. I just use a fence, or wall, or tree, or grass, or meadow, or sand, or rocks, or air, or cars, or streets, or buildings, you get the idea. I used a background once, well, it was a sheet, and it turned out ok, but I dont dig that look. it usually looks contrived. very few photogrpahers can pull that off. why can't you take the kids out to a park and just have them play and photograph them playing. I also love to do things where I follow the kids down the street, like at a strip mall, or whatever, and photograph them getting an ice cream cone, and stuff like that. just natural everyday stuff. break the mold. check out my blog for some ideas on this http://frazierphotography.wordpress.com
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Brenda D.
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Dawn, I get stuck on posing ideas too so what I usually do is go to a JCPennys site or popular photo site and look at the poses and turn some of thier ideas into my own once I get an idea on some posing positions, I add my own touch to it.with the eight week old baby you could cover her baby carrier in a soft plush fabric , then have the older child next to her ,maybe kissing her on the head or maybe include a few of the girls own toys to make it easier on the children.
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Sharon Day
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I'm in several photography oriented Yahoo groups. If interested you can email me through my gallery and I'll give you a link to one I enjoy.
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Dawn T. Palmerley
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The mom wants the photos taken in studio setting. It's still very cold here so the outdoors is out of the question. But I got some good tips here so I'll just keep studying other photographs. Thanks guys!! Oh and I'm still going through galleries but so far I've see some great work here!!! Way to go!!!
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Melissa Farnsworth
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I have a bean bag chair that I like to use for infants. I just cover it up with differnt material that I get at walmart. I think the idea of the big sis giving the little sis a kiss is really cute. I am not real sure about what other poses you could try with the both of them together since the oldest is only two. My daughter had just turn 3 when my son was born and she was able to hold him during their first pictures together. But we also have one that is my all time favorite with my son laying down my daughter is leaning over him kissing his nose with no props at all just fabric that my son was laying on. And I like the idea Brenda had about looking at other photography websites to get posing ideas.
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Dawn T. Palmerley
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Melissa- That's a great idea about the bean bag chair. Thanks!!
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Michelle Ross
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Hi Dawn . . . I don't have many answers right now but will join in when I can . . . as far as Yahoo .. . I am a member of one thread there and it is great but I just don't like the format to read it all in ... I like BP format much better!
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Brenda D.
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Dawn , I hope you find what your looking for . I have a posing problem too but after all the sites i've loked in I can't find posing for 30ish couples , its a 20th high school reunion , i'll be doing a group shot plus couples and I dont want them to look "promish" any body got any ideas? thanks Dawn this is a good thread:)
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Debby A. Tabb
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I have seen you posting this before, what kind of poses are you looking for romantic (couples remembering thier love) or Fun and Trendy as if kids again? Here is a romantic example,(sorry it is a scan) it is not as complacated as it looks once you have the lights set. If you would like detailed info. on this pose just email me and I will return the instructions to you. (they will take me a bit to write out) so bare with me. I do have others that may help if I know a little more of what you would like to see.
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Dawn T. Palmerley
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Debby- This picture would look so nice if there was a bit of light on his eyes or lips or both.
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Debby A. Tabb
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This is a image and pose I have been doing for years and one of the reditions is actually in a museum in TN. But this is very close to the way it is intended to be shot. It is ment to be with her face lit and a dreamy shadowed image- as if to dream of that kiss. this is a type of story telling pose. and a lot of fun to do. People always have a hard time not busting up during it-but if you wait for them to get it all out,and let you get the pose-they can't belive what you have caught.
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Brenda D.
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i like the romantic look in this photo, I know its dark because of the scan how would I get both couples to show up ? my lighting isnt pro lighting I use the ones from wal-mart that guys use to work in the garage and use sheer fabric to drape over them to add different color effects. I know that sounds so unprofessional to all you pros but I use what I have.
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Debby A. Tabb
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Actually Brenda it is to your credit that you are out there working and using what you have to do so! GOOD FOR YOU!!!! We have all been there. This pose may not work though with those-they may just be to hot. I am going to write the dirrections down for you and reply back to your email as soon as possible. the background you have is very nice and will look great with different colored gels. You can find these heavey grade gels in hte camera store or on line I have tried other materals and Prastic wraps and they do not give thesame rich effect. but theway that background is it will give you some really nice results. also do tey dying your own- It does wory wonderfully. Lowes and Home depot sell Painters cloth muslin(heavey duty) you can get that and dye it any color you want and that is the cheapest way to get a LARGE Black background.
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Brenda D.
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thankds Debby , ive been looking into those painters drop cloths I may just try my hand at dying them , that will be a hoot ! I myself may end up looking like an easter egg !
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Debby A. Tabb
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LOL,LOL,lol I just died,lol You said that and I can really appreciate that-belive me. ok,I am going through disks to find poses for you-may take some time-I have some CD orders that have to go today. But I will not forget you. :-)
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Robyn Gwilt
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Melissa, the beanbag idea is great - that way they don't fall out - and you can shape it anyway for them! I don't have a studio or lights :( ,so my mom/kids shots are done outdoors, rolling around ! Ok, I haven't been paid for them, as they've been friends and family, but they're all going in the portfolio - I'd love to to do this full-time, just plucking up the courage!!
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Dawn T. Palmerley
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HOORAY!!! My son's kindergarten teacher asked me if I'll do her 2 sons pictures. And she loves the old style that I love to do. Her boys are 9 and 5. I have to bring her my pamplet tomorrow morning. And more of my note cards sold in my husband's store. Gotta make more now. I'm really appreciating everyone here with their ideas for posing, and I love the suggestion from Debby about the drop clothes at Home Depot. (I never thought of that). I've been trying to get huge chunks of fabric at Fabricland but they don't come that wide.
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Dawn T. Palmerley
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Robyn- You take great pictures! You could make money no problem!! Even with those bubble/balls as cards. That's what I've been doing, making art cards and selling them. I also have a studio for portraits. I say you should just go for it!
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Robyn Gwilt
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Thanks Dawn :) Do you print the bubble/balls on photo paper, or have someone print them up (like real greeting cards?) Are they post-card style, or double/flap? I find that my every waking hour is spent taking pix, thinking about pix, dreaming of my studio, with an endless flow of moms/babies/money.... the other spare time I have is spent on BP, getting the most amasing idea's, crits, feedback, support - this really is a great forum - Thanks EVERYONE who's held my hand and guided my mouse over the past few months :)
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Dawn T. Palmerley
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Robyn- I've just been printing them out right now and they come out really nice. I made a bunch of smaller ones (note cards) and the regular sized. I've just been buying the packs of blank cards and then using a special tape called Photo Mount Squares. It's a pack, the little squares are double sided adhesive and you just stick the squares on the photo and put the photo on the card. Then I've made labels with my company name etc. and put the envelopes with them and I actually found card racks at a second hand store (lucky me) that have been working wonderfully. But they really look great and I've been gettin tons of compliments on them. A lady just bought 2 this morning when I was in my husbands work (a musicians store). The one's I have in there are music related although I have some ones with the old looking kid photos on them also. I hope this helps!
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Rebecca A. Steed
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OK Dawn, find out what makes the kid tick - for my son, he loves his guitar. Some kids love baseball, so have the mom bring a mit and ball and hat etc. It helps the kid be at ease if he has his favorite thing from home - a big bear, etc. Then, just keep snapping. It's probably easier to 'keep snapping' with natural light through a large window, because strobes would distract the child. My favorite shots are candid, especially with kids.
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Dawn T. Palmerley
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Well the mom wants stuff like the one I have in my gallery of my son with the old paper boy cap on, suspenders, leaning on the wood wall. She just loved it. But we have to do in studio cause it's so cold out. I really need a brown background or a fake wood panel or something. I also bought a really old brown suitcase to use in some photos. Got it at the second hand store for $1.50 Yippee!! It's been so quiet in the threads today. What's up?
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Brenda D.
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Dawn I like the first photo in your gallery how did you get the horse head to show up a silloet ( my spelling is horrible).
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Dawn T. Palmerley
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Thanks Brenda, that's one of my favorites!! I just put a spotlight behind the horse and it came out looking like the sunset or sunrise was behind him.
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Denyse Clark
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Hi Dawn! So I guess I missed something in the studio thread, it seems to have ended for some differences... Anyways, I think this thread is a nice idea. I'm going to read the above posts & catch up, then I'll check back in.
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Denyse Clark
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I've heard the painters cloths work good- I opted for 120" wide muslin, my fabric store happened to have it and it's nice & light weight. Can you still buy brown wall paneling?? Once or two pieces might work nicely as a background. Ok, you got your suitcase for $1.50?? I've GOT to get to a 2nd hand store!! I'm about fainting when I try to buy props at retail stores, even discount ones, and it's $50 for a tiny little stool.
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Tonya Cozart
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Dawn, great idea here... don't have time to read and chat now, just wanted to get on the list!
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Robyn Gwilt
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I'm away for the weekend - will check Sun pm/Mon am - have fun all!
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Gregory LaGrange
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Anybody think those croc shoes belong in the 99cent store?
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Dawn T. Palmerley
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Denyse- Hi and welcome!! It was nice to see you in the other thread. Glad you came. Tonya- Thanks for coming in. It's nice that some people from the other thread are joining in. Robyn- Enjoy the weekend! We'll see you Sunday or Monday. Gregory- what??
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Brenda D.
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hi Dawn, have you come up with any posing ideas for your upcomming photoshoot?
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Dawn T. Palmerley
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Brenda- Well, I talked to the teacher again today, (the one who wants me to do her son's pics in old fashion style) and she wants me to do it during Spring Break. So I have a bit of time to think about it. I did buy another felt hat today, a really nice mens' grey fedora type hat like the one in my gallery called Be My Valentine. But at least this will allow me to do some pics outside cause it will be a bit warmer out by then. It's cold here right now. The mom with the 2yr old and 8wk old girls, hasn't called me yet, or she has but I'm never home and I've been leaving the cell at home. But that's ok, I'll see her at church on Sun. How's everyone here?? Any photo sessions, adventures or anything?
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Brenda D.
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im working on setting up some props now , ive got pictures to do for the varsity ball at the high school, im gonna use my backround ( mottled brown ) with weathered lattice and ivy with twinkle lights , cross your fingers for me please :)
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Dawn T. Palmerley
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Brenda- I'll be crossing them for you. But I'll think you'll do great!! Good luck!
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Brenda D.
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thanks its a freebie for some friends of my sons they have a lot of hard times going on with thier family right now , and I remember how hard it was to be a teenage girl and think its important for a girl to feel special and pretty , plus my son ask me to do it for him so i'm happy to (pretty proud of him for thinking of too :)
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Dawn T. Palmerley
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Wow, Brenda, you and your son sound pretty special!! I think that's great that you'd do something like that. YOU'RE AWESOME!!!
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Brenda D.
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thanks , both my boys are pretty great ( if I do say so myself) they get judged poorly for the way they look because of piercings and tattoos and regular punk stuff but they were brought up in church and after people get to know them they're kind of shocked, typical teenage stuff see how many people you can shock ya know ?
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I'm here but dealing with sick child again, arghhh.. sleeping now but no doubt will be awake at about midnight when I am about to hit the pillow.. will be back tomorrow..debbie
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Erinn Aloi
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Hi guys, so, i'm confused.. the begining of this thread it seemed as if you were telling Dawn that she couldn't have an "open" discussion. or that it wouldn't work? but I guess it's ok to try it anyway? so is that what's going on? lol Dawn I have a 2 month old and 2 year old coming up... My style is more simple, I don't use many props if at all. I do use the bean bag chair lot's. I find 2 year olds to be the hardest ever!! they just do their own thing, which is fine, if they are by themselves.. but when the parent wants them in the same shot as an infant? ughhh.. it's going to be tough...so i'd like ideas too! Erinn
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Michelle Ross
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Erinn ... we can have any kind of discussion that we want really ... some just don't like the idea of it being like a blog or without a specific topic .. .the way I see it is the ones of us that come to chat will do that and those that don't wish to participate in that kind of thread can either lurk or just not come here. .. sometimes it can be challenging to follow and some requests/questions might get lost among the chatter. .. but for the most part I think it will be fine . .. as for your shoot coming up . .. 2 years old/2 months . . . my suggestion .. .Patience. .. I agree . .. 2 years old usually have a very busy agenda. .. and unfortunately photography isn't always on it . .. maybe try having them laying flat with their heads going opposite directions . . . I am having a hard time coming up with suggestions as I have not had this combination before . . . did I say patience. .. you will figure something out i'm sure. . . maybe if you have a wicker basket of some type to lay the baby in and have the two year old sitting beside it holding the baby's fingers or something perhaps looking down . . any type of interactive rather than Posed shots is what I'd be looking at . .. but we all know parents can have their own agendas as well . . .
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Dawn T. Palmerley
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How's everyone today?? Does anyone have a new question or problem we can all work together on?? In here, anything goes! I don't know if I put this one up, but let me know what you think. I played with it in PS.
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Dawn T. Palmerley
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How's everyone today?? Does anyone have a new question or problem we can all work together on?? In here, anything goes! I don't know if I put this one up, but let me know what you think. I played with it in PS.
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Amy JACKSON Contact Amy Amy's Gallery |
Dawn, Hey, I think it is very cute. Great shot and I like the seashell. My personal preference would be to see her feet and to lose the tulle. It seems to distract just a little. Amy
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Amy JACKSON Contact Amy Amy's Gallery |
Sorry Dawn, I meant to say His feet...
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Brenda- how did the shoot go? Looking forward to seeing some of your results...
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Michelle Ross
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I had a baby shoot today . . a 9 month boy .. . it went well ... he wasn't fussy or hungry but did get tired towards the end.. . but we were basically done by that point and i'm so proud of myself because I did a session in an hour LOL .. usually it's more like 2 but that's feeding and sometimes a little nap for the little ones... anyway . . . I did some with High Key ARGH I struggle with that. . . and then some with the darker background . . which are always my favorites.. . although I love the high key look . I just hate stressing over them ... anyway .. .here's one I just got edited . .. I have most of them in my gallery already if your bored and want to look!
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michelle, cute picture!
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Brenda D.
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Hi everyone all of these pics are great ! unfortunatly I had to cancle my photoshoot, it is our weekend with my step daughter and we noticed spots she has chicken pox! and Jasmine has a baby sister at home so we decided it would be best if we waited for a while, but as soon as we get the oppertunity she wants to get dressed up again just so we can do them shes a great young lady :)
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Denyse Clark
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Brenda- bummer on the pox!! Michelle- great shot, I love the overalls and the background/props and you got a cute little pose out of him. Ok I should know this by now, but what is "high key"??
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Dawn T. Palmerley
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Michelle- Awesome shot!! Love the ones in your gallery too. They came out so cute!!! Denyse- Gorgeous model! Very nice pictures! Brenda- Sorry to hear about your step daughter. Hope she feels well soon.
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Dawn T. Palmerley
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Michelle- Awesome shot!! Love the ones in your gallery too. They came out so cute!!! Denyse- Gorgeous model! Very nice pictures! Brenda- Sorry to hear about your step daughter. Hope she feels well soon.
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Brenda D.
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thanks she was still pretty itchy but we had to take her back to her moms today :( she was happy she gets to miss school for a few more days (typical) lol , Denise and Michelle I love your pictures!
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Ruben L. Wade
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Hi Dawn! I loved your work. Keep up the good work.
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Michelle Ross
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Hi all .. . did a 6mo baby shoot today ... am editing now and will be putting them in my gallery .. I will just post there so I don't have to log in LOL ... feel free to look! I was excited because I had good ideas for once LOL . .. and he was happy :-)
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Denyse Clark
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Michelle- 015 is my favorite! It just all seems to come together really well in that one. What is "high key"? Is that w/ a brightly lit background??
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Dawn T. Palmerley
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Okay, it's way too quiet here. Where did everyone go? Okay, who knows of a good suppier for backdrops and lighting. Someone who isn't expensive.
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Brenda D.
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Dawn im so glad you ask I couldnt find this thread , once they go to another page I somehow manage to pass over them, I haven't got to do jasmines pics yet but will soon she goes to school and works, plus with me working too its hard to get together . I have some questions about my camera I use a digital rebel xt and having some color troubles I need to learn to set my white balance any suggestions ?
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Robyn Gwilt
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We need BP Viagra here - can't get them up! Sorry, need to rush to work, they're in my gallery, or I'll try to re-size and upload later. Brenda, most of the time I use Auto - also got the 350D - it you want to warm the pix use the Tungsten, cool it, I think its Flourescent. Set yr camera on a tripod, take a pic of the same scene, on each WB settiing and you'll see the different effects. The shade/cloudy is also helpful
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Brenda D.
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Robyn if I go into my white balance settings and set it to tungsten then turn it back to auto will my white balance stay on tungsten or does it go to a defult setting in auto ?
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Robyn Gwilt
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Brenda if you set it to Tungsten and shoot, then it will stay there. The minute you move it back to Auto, your camera then 'automatically' reads the light, so you might have a spot on the ceiling, a flourescent in the corner, and another tungsten side reading lamp (horrors what a mix!!), so what would you choose? Auto, coz then the camera sorts out all the different lights and automatically balances it. I know a lot of people prefer to shoot on Auto, as sometimes what happens you change to Tungsten or Cloudy, then move inside/outside/wherever, and forget to change your ISO and your white balance - I know I have :) In your camera menu, there is also your Custom Function Settings, where you can Customise your WB by using a White or Grey Card (another story this!!) If you type White Balance into the window at the top of the Q & A page, or Grey Card, it should throw out some threads. But basically this is when you want to get really fancy - I don't have a grey card yet, so I go between Auto / Tungsten/ Cloudy/Shade. But.... in your custom functions you can shoot straight BW or Sepia or Sepia with a Blue, pink..... tinge - best advice I got, is shoot colour and manipulate on PS afterwards, otherwise you'll once again forget to re-set back to colour and if its BW you can't put colour in if its not there to start with!
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Brenda D.
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Robyn , thank you . I dont have a grey card either and I always shoot in auto simply because my camera is smarter than I am !!!! LOL thank goodness it knows what kind if light to pick . plus im at the age where it can also see better than I can to tell whether my shot is in focus.
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Dawn T. Palmerley
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And now I played with a picture and would like to hear any thoughts on it.
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Katherine M. Warwick
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I just wanted to say thanks to Debby for the idea about Home Depot and the dropcloth, what a great money saving idea, and I need all those I can get, so, Thanks!
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Dawn T. Palmerley
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Katherine- I thought that was a great tip from Debby about the drop cloth. I didn't even think of it. Your gallery is beautiful! Great work!
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Brenda D.
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Hey i'm so glad to find this thread again !!! my photoshoot for the varsity ball will be on the 18th so I will post shots after that , plus a couple of newlyweds who didnt a lot of wedding photos just snapshots,will post those too :)
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Dawn T. Palmerley
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Brenda- Good luck with the photoshoot! Can't wait to see the results.
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Brenda D.
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Thanks Dawn, it doesnt matter how much I do this I still get a little nervous , but once I start it all goes away , thanks again
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Dawn T. Palmerley
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I know exactly what you mean! Although I noticed that I don't get nervous when I do maternity shots. But any other ones, I do.
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Brenda D.
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i'd love to do a maternity shot sometime!! that must be an awsome thing , now that I think about it , it does seem like it is calming to be around a pregnant woman , plus they are so beautiful you couldnt help but get beautiful shots.
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Dawn T. Palmerley
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that's exactly it! It's just so relaxed. I really enjoy doing them. The beauty that is captured in a pregnant woman is just amazing! They are so happy and they surprise me too. The ones I've done have been so willing to just remove their clothes, even if I didn't ask them too. It's kind of funny. But it shows that they do feel gorgeous even being pregnant.
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Brenda D.
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thats funny you should mention that I believe thats the only time I ever felt truely comfortable in my own body , I always told my husband that I wish he could feel just for one day how amazing it is to be pregnant . we women are so lucky ! :) and this is kinds funny all my cats always wanted to be around me or on my big ol belly when I was pregnant.
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Dawn T. Palmerley
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Wow Gregory- I've missed you!! Brenda- I had the same thing from my pets. They really do know when a woman is pregnant. LOL
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Brenda D.
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LOL, Gregory your funny ,quess I hadent thought if it that way either:o oh well quess the only maternity shots i'll get to take any time soon is if my own cat ! :)
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Brenda D.
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well that didnt work , i'll put them in my gallery :)
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