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Craig Paulsen
 

researched out, decided on the MarkIIn over the 5D


I have checked and compared and talked to other pro's and I'm sold on the MarkIIn.
The MarkIIn is just better for business. One great thing of many is that I can record in Raw on 1 chip while I record on Jpeg on a another. What is this good for? When I go to make the slideshow that plays during the reception(highlights of the day)I don't have to seperate raw and jpeg and wait. I just pop in my JPEG card and Im off looking for 50 pics to show my work(great advertisment) and the bride and groom get a sneak peak at their special day.

One interesting thing is that the 20d is better in lowlight conditions than the MarkIIn or the 5D. So I'll hang on to those babies


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February 13, 2006

 

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  You don't need JPEG to do slide shows. I do them all the time straight from my RAW files.


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February 13, 2006

 

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  Also, have you thought about the weight? I know a few wedding guys who have the Mark II, Mark II N, DS Mark II, and 5D, and only now shoot with the 5D due to it's outstanding performance, and it's light weight body.


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February 13, 2006

 

Christopher A. Vedros
  I don't know, Craig. Don't you typically shoot several thousand pictures per wedding?

Do you think 8.5fps is fast enough for you??


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February 13, 2006

 

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  spray and pray, baby.


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February 13, 2006

 

Craig Paulsen
  Jerry,

I like the JPEG, it loads faster. And the faster I get the slide show up the more air time I get. Right after dinner I bring out the laptop. Do your self a favor and cover the keyboard with something. Sometimes people forget their drink on the table next to it.

Chris
Myself, I shoot an average of 750. My second shooter about 1000. Some are for insurance in case someone blinks or if the hug, tears,laughing etc... last longer than normal. I don't need the fast frames, but sometimes I get great sequence shots because of it (you know some things happen in a blink of an eye).

I spent almost the whole day and in the end the full sensor was the only bait on the 5D, the MarkIIn had so many more treats. The weight doesn't bother me, just have to go to the gym more. By the way, last time I was at the airport I checked the weight on my photobag with all the goodies(44pounds)! I feel like a Wedding Marine with all that on my back.

The price is more, but as I was told(you make it back quick).

A marketer told me that I should tac on an extra $1000 every year to my pakage.

Someone just told me that someone booked a $50,000 wedding(probably a movie or rock star)


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February 13, 2006

 
- Gregory LaGrange

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  Elvis?


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February 13, 2006

 

Craig Paulsen
  is he still dead?


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February 13, 2006

 

Samuel Smith
  just crying and tagging along.


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February 13, 2006

 

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  "I like the JPEG, it loads faster."

Craig, this is what I love about you, you're just full of facts.


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February 13, 2006

 

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  he's alive, I saw him in vegas recently.


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February 13, 2006

 

Craig Paulsen
  Jerry,

Are you saying you can download a Raw file faster than a JPEG?

Just what I know, no facts. Maybe I should call over geeks-on-wheels! Help me, Help me


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February 13, 2006

 

Craig Paulsen
  do you know Jerry, or are you just jerking my chain?


From my experience it takes about 3sec for a Raw file (which I shoot almost 200 per card). Thats 10 minutes I don't want to waste(JPEGs are instant). Now if you have a faster way please share.


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February 14, 2006

 
- Gregory LaGrange

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  Maybe that information requires i.d. to be shown first.


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February 14, 2006

 

David E. Anderson
  It seems that jpegs are just more manageble and if a mistake is made there is backup...Its always nice to have a jpeg for preview before you put in time processing as well, from my experience, although I dont shoot weddings I assist in both the studio and on location. What program Craig are you using to do your slide shows? Have you tried Adobe Lightroom Yet? I havent had time to mess with it...


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February 15, 2006

 

Craig Paulsen
  Jerry, are you being selfish? Or did you tell a fib?

David, I use proshowproducer


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February 16, 2006

 

Craig Paulsen
  Well, I guess I was right.

Anyway, about the 5D, a negative that I didn't like about the 5D was the slow flash-sync speed of just 1/200sec. Also , no weather sealing or second card slot. Not very rugged.
Judging by the natural progression of image quality, I bet the replacement of the 20D will be pretty darn close to the 5D and will presumably cost considerably less.


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February 21, 2006

 

Deborah Liperote
  hey Craig did you hear of any replacement for the 20d. I'm ready to purchase the 20d but am waiting for the pma 2006 to see what anouncements there may be. I like the 20 d but it is heavy! and I wish it had a little larger viewing screen.


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February 21, 2006

 

Christopher A. Vedros
  "Well, I guess I was right."

Not usually.

The 30D was announced today, and looks to be the replacement for the 20D. It's body looks a little more like the 5D, but it uses the same sensor and processor as the 20D. It does have a larger viewing screen, though.

Craig -- How do you see a flash sync speed of 1/200 as slow, and a negative? What sync speed would make you happy?


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February 21, 2006

 

Justin G.
  #1 that's pretty fast and why does it matter. doesn't canon have the high speed flash sync enabling like the 580EX to sync at all speeds including 1/4000. I mean if you're in a studio with a full set of 4 or 5 lights are you really working with things faster than 1/200? even on water droplets the flash freezes the action anyways.


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February 21, 2006

 

Craig Paulsen
  "Well, I guess I was right." - For Jerry

NASCAR Baby! Its the need for speed

20D is a good buy, I have 2 of them. Just being patient :)
They didn't put a flash on the 5D to make it look more of a pro camera, I'm already used to cropping so I don't need to throw down the extra $2000

Yes Usually


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February 21, 2006

 
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  200th snyc speed is okay. 250 would be better.


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February 21, 2006

 

Christopher A. Vedros
  Craig, as usual, you avoid actually answering the question.

For all practical purposes, saying "Camera A is better than Camera B because it has a 1/250 sync speed instead of a 1/200 sync" is not much different than saying "Camera A is better than Camera B because it weighs only 1.7 pounds instead of 1.8 pounds."

"I'm already used to cropping so I don't need to throw down the extra $2000"

Wait a minute. You started this thread saying that you had chosen the Mark IIn over the 5D, now it sounds like you're choosing the 20D over the 5D. What gives?


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February 21, 2006

 

Christopher A. Vedros
  My questions are rhetorical, of course. I don't really expect to get an answer.

We all know what this thread is, don't we? It's another one of our little friend's attempts to spout off about which expensive camera he's going to get next.

Just like all of his other characters like to do.


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February 21, 2006

 

Justin G.
  well he's already got 2 1Ds Mk II's and 2 times every L lens ever made. what would make you grab a 20D over a 1Ds Mk II anyways?

and wait..hey chris, he needs the extra third stop in flash sync for nascar? now granted i've never shot nascar but I don't really see using flash unless at night for nascar? maybe i'd approach it different, how would you?


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February 21, 2006

 
- Gregory LaGrange

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  A camera with a 250 sync would be better. That's a 25% increase, which would be a nice amount of decrease in ghost images. That'd be a noticeable difference when you look at the pictures. Anything else he said, isn't he supposed to be the surfing carpenter?


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February 21, 2006

 

Craig Paulsen
  what in the world are you talking about?

I was comparing according to closeness in the prices between the two, but realized that the 5D wasn't worth the extra money so I started comparing it to the 20D and came to the conclusion that, because I'm so use to shooting a little extra on the sides for the purpose of croping that the full sensor didn't do it for me. Now if I had to I would buy the 30D, but I can wait a little longer. I think with digital it would almost be better to lease, which I'm checking into.

Now go do the right thing! Heard


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February 22, 2006

 

Craig Paulsen
  It's almost like you guys have a gang. If you don't like someone that is better than you, then you try to scare them off. It ain't workin, so give it up.


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February 23, 2006

 

Justin G.
  wow he's better than all of us. well i'm not saying i'm better than you but even if I was I wouldn't be boasting it. get your ego some ridillin.


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February 23, 2006

 

Craig Paulsen
  LOL


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February 23, 2006

 

Craig Paulsen
  Maybe I should pay someone to pat me on the back :)


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February 23, 2006

 

Justin G.
  LOL you don't need to you seem to do it yourself! lol haha you're too funny!


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February 23, 2006

 

Craig Paulsen
  Hey Chris and Gregory


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February 23, 2006

 

Craig Paulsen
  made ya look


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February 23, 2006

 

Christopher A. Vedros
  I can't compete. I only have one account . . . and one personality.


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February 23, 2006

 

Craig m. Zacarelli
  funny thread for sure. So? who like the 30D? I do!
but I still aint buying it.... cant afford it..lol
Craig-


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February 24, 2006

 

Craig m. Zacarelli
  funny thread for sure. So? who like the 30D? I do!
but I still aint buying it.... cant afford it..lol
Craig-


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