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Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
 

Studio Photography Part #14


STUDIO PHOTOGRAPHY PART #14


WELCOMES ALL MEMBERS WHO LOVE STUDIO PHOTOGRAPHY AND PORTRAITURE .
WE ENJOY WORKING TOGETHER AND HAVING FUN!!
WE WORK THROUGH STUDIO SET UP , INTO THE OPERATIONS OF DOING THE BUSINESS OF STUDIO PHOTOGRAPHY
This is now part #12 of the on going Thread on Studio Photography,OVER 6 months long.Don't be affraid to jump in and ask away, if we've answered it we can tell you where to find the answer, or get a answer for you.
From start to finish we discuss Buying equipment,Setting up your Studio(home or moblie) and the Business of..

Grab a cup of coffee(or...) and catch up and join us, here are the other links:
PART1:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=17534
PART 2:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=18585
PART3:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=19127
PART 4:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=19665
PART 5: http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=20008

PART #6:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/qnaDetail.asp?threadID=20255

PART #7:http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/qnaDetail.asp?threadID=20455

PART # 8:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/qnaDetail.asp?threadID=20773

PART #9
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/qnaDetail.asp?threadID=21098

PART #10:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/qnaDetail.asp?threadID=21439

PART#11:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=21744

PART#12:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/qnaDetail.asp?threadID=21855

Part #13:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/qnaDetail.asp?threadID=21981


IT IS GREAT WE HAVE SO MANY NEW PEOPLE JOINING IN AND ADDING SO MUCH FUN!!!!
We have started a STUDIO GROUP MAP
For those intrested in sharing where they are and if they would like to be involved in extra get together type meetings:
http://www.frappr.com/studiogroup


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1/25/2006 8:43:46 PM

 
Melissa Farnsworth
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/5/2005
  YEAH!!!!!!!!


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1/25/2006 8:44:35 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  just gettin on the list!
congrats on your lights amber...I am jealous!


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1/25/2006 8:50:25 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Melissa- Well, he is turning 1 around the same time (next week). I could do some around a birthday theme. And yes I do have little stools and chairs.
I also bought a huge teddy bear today, hoping to use that. I guess I would have to have a consultation with the mom to see what she had in mind.


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1/25/2006 8:53:43 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  YEAH!!! AAHHHHHH!!
Dawn,
that is a cute shot, and at 1 he should be even cuter.
I always liked documenting what he /or he and dad are it to.
like it's close to superbowl-does Dad or Mom have a favorte team they will be cheering for?
how about him naked in a team jersy and a football.
* or is dad a businessman-baby in just a didiy and tie,in the brief case with a rolled up newspaper,cel phone etc.
* or a police or fireman- naked baby in their work shirt and hats
these are just some thoughts.
but plain baby on all white or add a blue blanket will be just as cute.
a year is just so cute .



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1/25/2006 8:56:47 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Great ideas! I guess there is alot of different ideas for boys when you think about it. I should know better since I have 2 small boys of my own.
Thanks guys for the suggestions. I'll have to write those down for when I talk to the mom.


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1/25/2006 9:00:47 PM

 
Melissa Farnsworth
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/5/2005
  A big teddy bear would be so cute!! Maybe you can even make some kind of collage with that first picture of him and one of him now.
I have seen alot of these 1 yr b-day pictures lately where the baby is in a diaper with a party hat and they have little cake in frot of them (use the white seamless paper for the mess) and the kid goes crazy with it! it makes for some really great shots. I can't wait to try that with my nephew when he turns one. I wish I would have done something like that with my son. he will be 2 in march. he did go crazy with his cake at his party. the icing was blue and he looked like mel gibson on bravehart!

good night guys!


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1/25/2006 9:01:41 PM

 
Sandra 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/31/2002
  Hey Amber,
Me too... I'm Jealous...
Congrats on your lights, can't wait to see your pictures.

Dawn,
If you have a white background try Max in diaper eating oreo cookies and some around him.
Max with diaper on sitting in a brief case with a tie on .


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1/25/2006 9:02:02 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Melissa- That's hilarious! Braveheart. LOL

Sandra- good idea with the oreo's! I did some of my first son (he's 5 now) but when he was about 1 I put him in my briefcase with glasses on, it was so funny but so cute. And I almost bought some ties for props today.


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1/25/2006 9:04:42 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  yeah, gotta love good will for :
Old mens and wemons hats, ties, JEWERY ( great for that, and cheap fur)
Old soup pots,
I also had a bridle vail. I had a mom come in with her vail and some perals, to take her daughters picture in-I have one of them, but th eone I did not get was her in the perals and vail, in front of a big ovel wedding picture of her folks.
and you know for boys you can do the same things.
I have the one of Bruce with his Great Grandfathers WWII uniform on.
That was taken for his Birthday that is the (was) the day before Veterens day.


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1/25/2006 9:12:29 PM

 
Sandra 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/31/2002
  Hey Debby,
I'm slow, posting at the same time (about the tie and brief case) But Hey I have a 3 year old that stops me every time I start to type, she needs CHOCALTE milk.


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1/25/2006 9:15:16 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Checking in.... and out. Good night all!


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1/25/2006 9:16:57 PM

 
Kristin Franke
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/7/2005
  Hello everyone...whoa, this is quite the series of threads! You gals do some awesome work! I have been skimming through your threads over the last few days, but there is SO much to absorb! I have some questions though and I hope someone can help! I have recently started doing portrait photography, usually using natural light, however I live in WI and the winters here provide very unpredictable indoor natural light opportunities and for outdoors...well, lets just say it gets a little cold! So, anyways, I was wanting to start a little home studio, but I have a rather limited budget right now. I use a Digital Rebel XT and I have a 430EX speedlight (which I use with an omnibounce sometimes) plus backgrounds and reflectors. What I want is an inexpensive strobe setup that will work with my camera and hopefully in conjunction with my flash. I know at least three lights is kinda the standard, but could I get away with one strobe in conjunction with my flash?

I know NOTHING about this stuff, not even how to work my flash besides what the camera decides for me! I've considered alien bees, but I don't know if I want the 400 or 800 or if I should get the ones on eBay that have been mentioned (and if so, which ones)? I don't necessarily want to do the traditional studio shots, I enjoy the candid style and black and whites, etc. But, I am very confused as to what to buy. I have like $300-400 to spend right now, but I can hopefully build as neccessary. So, any thoughts as to what I should get to start? Any advice would be SO appreciated. I can't believe how long informative these threads are and how much fun you ladies have! This is just what I've been needing and I am so excited to have found it!


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1/25/2006 9:18:09 PM

 
Sandra 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/31/2002
  Kristin F.
WELCOME, I Can't help you with the lights BUT your at the right place to get the BEST advise, Debby is the one...


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1/25/2006 9:23:16 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Sandra,your so cute,thanks I will try.
Welcome Kristin,
If you will email me, I will send you a "Studio Wish List" and help you in anyway I can.
One thing to consider is using you flah as a main and get a fill/ backlight.
then adding another until you have built the studio you want.
the lists I have made up are of 3 different companies and different prices.and based on quesions from others here.
I am so glad you can join in.


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1/25/2006 9:33:15 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
 
 
 
Krisin- Hi! I'm new here to and it's an awesome place to be. The ladies (I'm assuming there aren't many man if any) here are wonderful!! Everyone is so talented and helpful. I love it!
You sound a bit like me, I was using mainly natural light, then we moved, the weather got a bit grey and I had to buy a strobe. I bought one from ebay with a small softbox and stand. Very good price and it works great!! I also use a large softbox with light reflected off of it since I don't have the proper light to fit inside it. I tried one and it melted my universal ring. Anyway, I don't know if you saw the pics I took with it but here's a couple examples.


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1/25/2006 9:33:59 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
 
 
 
Krisin- Hi! I'm new here to and it's an awesome place to be. The ladies (I'm assuming there aren't many man if any) here are wonderful!! Everyone is so talented and helpful. I love it!
You sound a bit like me, I was using mainly natural light, then we moved, the weather got a bit grey and I had to buy a strobe. I bought one from ebay with a small softbox and stand. Very good price and it works great!! I also use a large softbox with light reflected off of it since I don't have the proper light to fit inside it. I tried one and it melted my universal ring. Anyway, I don't know if you saw the pics I took with it but here's a couple examples.


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1/25/2006 9:35:06 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Just a quick question that has nothing to do with photography....
what time is it right now where you guys are? It's 9:46pm here in B.C., Canada


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1/25/2006 9:45:33 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  lol,lol Dawn , It's the same here,in Ca. but I am just acting like a old broad and slown down,lol,lol.

as soon as Criminal Minds is over it's to bed with me to fall asleep in front of Law and Order.

Where did you move from to Canada?


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1/25/2006 9:49:04 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Born and raised in Canada. I think I've been out of Canada maybe twice. LOL Went to the states to play bingo (not by choice)lol And my husband and I took the kids across for part of a day just to tour and shop.
Born in Ontario actually.
I now live on Vancouver Island.
I'm really bad at time zones, etc. but it always seems at this time, it dies down in here. Just when I'm getting started. :)


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1/25/2006 9:52:15 PM

 
Amber Bigelow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/15/2004
 
 
 
Ok Everyone.... here it is... my first test shot. camera is on 200, f22, 200 just like Debby said and tada... it worked. :) My wonderful hubby was gracious enough to lay across the couch for me while I took a couple of shots. The kids are asleep so I'll have to wait to use them as models until tomorrow. I tried to borrow one of my daughters dolls for a model and she wouldn't let me. LOL She is so excited for me to do her pictures tomorrow (and said the doll could do pictures tomorrow, but was tired now) LOL

Debby - How did I do?


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1/25/2006 10:03:00 PM

 
Amber Bigelow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/15/2004
  Oh, and Dawn, it's 11:13pm here (I'm in Idaho, mtn time zone) I'm up for now, but am fading. It's been a long day and I want to be nice and rested for all of my pictures tomorrow! LOL


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1/25/2006 10:13:09 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  ohlol,lol you brat!!
I was on my way to bed and thought I would do that last checklol,lol
oh you all do it to,lol

ok but wait: Dawn, I tought by your post maybe you had live here or...
but you move from one side to the other in Canada,yeh.

Ok Amber,
you are so cute-I was wondeing if you HAD to put those lights up,lol.
I would have to!!
ok you did very well, I belive you had your lghts set as they should be.
but since he is on theground, you have to lower them. do that and shoot him again!lol,lol
soon he'll hate me like Tim.
No Tim can't hate me , I am a Ron White fan,lol,lol.


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1/25/2006 10:31:54 PM

 
Amber Bigelow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/15/2004
  Are you kidding? I couldn't get my daughter to eat fast enough and I read the shortest nighttime story she had! LOL Didn't do much good... she's like a jack in the box, always popping up out of bed every 5 minutes. Especially since she knew I was unpacking that box I'd been staring at all night! LOL

As for reposing, I'll have to wait. He went to bed. The nerve! Maybe I could sneek in and take my daughters doll that she wouldn't let me have earlier... LOL

OK, time for me to go to bed.


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1/25/2006 10:55:43 PM

 
Rebecca A. Steed
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/6/2005
  My goodness you guys get busy when I'm fast asleep here in Germany!
Kristin - I too. Great gallery and I love the collage of the little baby - Absolutly adorable and precious.
I too use natural light and I have to say, I love it. I mean, God made the best lighting!
Debby - I love Ron "Tater Salad" and Larry the Cable Guy - Git er' done!!!


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1/25/2006 11:11:39 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Okay, I'm going to bed now. I have to get up early to take my kindergartener to school in the morning. (I hate mornings!!)lol
Goodnight everyone, see ya tomorrow!


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1/25/2006 11:17:14 PM

 
Melissa Farnsworth
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/5/2005
  Way to go Amber! that looks really good.
Dawn- My late grandmother was originally from Canada. She lived in Newfoundland. She probably lived in Texas more than 50 years but was never an actual US citizen. Her house in Canada is now an historical landmark. I would love to go some day.

have a great day!


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1/26/2006 4:40:45 AM

 
Nicole E. Rappaport
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/4/2004
  good morning!

Brenda, I saw on #13 you asked about the buzz...here is a link, I think you can download a trial version for like 30 uses. I like that effect too, I just haven't tried it yet.

http://www.fo2pix.com/products/semiproproducts_more.php?id=287_0_17_0_C


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1/26/2006 4:46:38 AM

 
Nicole E. Rappaport
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/4/2004
  Amber, you sound like me with lights! :) it is like getting a new toy that you have to open right this minute! I think you did a good job!

btw, I set up an account with whcc and just recieved my 5 8x10 test shots yesterday and wow! I am pretty impressed with them. i've seen a few of you mention whcc so I decided to give them a try and I am glad I did. thank you again for all the great advice here! :)


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1/26/2006 4:59:08 AM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2006
  At the very end of the last thread somebody came on and asked about posing for teens, young teens, and tweens. Most of you probably didn't see it because it was after the post Debby made to move us over here. Either way... I thought I'd bring it up again because nobody answered and I'm also curious. I am going to be taking photos of a senior girl. She's actually doing it as just a favor for me so I have something to add to my portfolio (though it helps that she LOVES having her picture taken) but I could use some ideas on posing her. It will be outdoors once the weather improves a bit. Thanks!!


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1/26/2006 5:41:06 AM

 
Kristin Franke
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/7/2005
  Hi again everyone! Wow, you gals really keep busy on here! Dawn, I like what you do with the one light...kinda the look I'm after. Those are some adorable pictures...I love the cowboy in the underwear! And Becky, I agree totally about natural light...it's the best! However I realize just using God-given light is limiting me in the gray winter months so I'm going to have to help him ou a little with a studio light or two! Thanks for the compliments...and you have beautiful images in your gallery!


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1/26/2006 5:48:46 AM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/29/2004
  Thanks for the new thread Debby!

And Nicole, thanks for the link on the "buzz"... maybe now I can go get buzzed! haha

okay, gotta go Dora & boots are on and my little guy is doing his happy dance!

I'll close for now and rejoin 200 posts later as fast as these go! hahaha


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1/26/2006 5:59:47 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Cari Welcome-I know you will find us!!
and Kristin and Danielle,
I got your emails and will respond as soon as thefurl kicks in.
Ok for out side teens: both Laura and Michelle have very good ones in their galleries(boy, I have to get the scanner fixed, and get more stuff in my gallery) lol.
I have done : grad in cap an dgown reading under a tree,if it is a girl you can give a little leg there by pulling gown over and letting a little show.
* Running in to the front of the school, cap on, gown in hand.
like she is late ,one hand on cap.
* on football field,alone practising throwing cap the air.
* on the Bleachers, all alone laying dowm in gown cap pulled over eyes.
* all kinds of grads with cars.
*My favoriate was a Grad in cap and gown with baby picture in hand,looking into a stream (this is a close up, so you get a reflection of them looking at them selves in cap and gown, and have them hold the baby picture so it is caught in frame-A shot that brought MOM to tears-now and mommys baby that still is)
I know this sounds bad, but if you take a shot that makes mom cry you can bet it is some of your best work!!


Ok on the teens,tweens, inside or out.


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1/26/2006 6:14:10 AM

 
Debbie Vega
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/23/2005
  Hey Melissa, I love LOST too, I am so completely addicted.. my daughter doesn't nap anymore during the day, arghhh, but I am thankful for it on wednesdays when I know she will be in bed by 8pm and I can watch lost all by mydelf with no interuptions.. my husband goes to school on wednesdays, wasn't last nights episode great.. debbie


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1/26/2006 8:55:21 AM

 
Melissa Farnsworth
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/5/2005
  Debbie V. -Yes it was good. I think alot of little secrets are starting to come out! That Libby character is really up to something. I don't trust her! I bought me the first season for Xmas and I watch it all the time picking up on little things that I missed. LOVE IT!!!


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1/26/2006 9:04:00 AM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Goodmorning all!!
Just having my coffee, reading my emails and checking in before I take my son to kindergarten. He's late (as usual) waiting for our ride. :(
See ya in a bit.


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1/26/2006 9:04:55 AM

 
Donna Dunbar
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/6/2003
  Hi everyone, I just recently took the step up to a digital camera. I have done lots of work with my film camera and strobe's but is there a way to integrate the strobes with my digital camera? I have both a Nikon F-100 (film) and a Nikon D-70s. My problem is when I hook the strobes to my digital all I am getting is blank, nothing, nada. I have tried adjusting the strobes and adjusting what I can on the camera and nothing seems to work. Very frustrating.If anyone has an tips for me please let me know.All tutorials I have read for Nikon all they mention is using a nikon speedlight which currently I don't have. Anybody , anybody please help if you can.


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1/26/2006 9:16:35 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Donna,
try the settings on Manual 200/22 f22 and let me know what you get.
does the D70s now come with th esync port or do you still have to have the AS-15 adaptor?



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1/26/2006 9:19:00 AM

 
Denyse Clark
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/2/2002
 
 
 
Hey you guys, can you take a look at these & let me know what you think? I don't have studio lights :( So I'm doing my best with my digital rebel xt, a 420ex speedlite mounted up on a stroboframe bracket. (trying to overpower household lights in the room) How is the lighting?? I'm afraid of looking.... cheesy or hack, you know? You guys spend lots of time on studio work, so any comments are appreciated!!


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1/26/2006 9:21:58 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Denyse,
Pose one is PERFECT!!!!!
lighting and color is so good.
the second pose-just bring his nose around so you get rid of the eye cut.
but color is good-I think your doing a great job.


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1/26/2006 9:26:53 AM

 
Denyse Clark
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/2/2002
  YEAH!! Thanks sooo much debbie. I've been reading all of these threads and I tried tons of things from what you guys recommended. I was happy with these (yes, #1 was my FAV, it's my desktop wallpaper now :) and I couldn't figure out quite what was off in #2, so thank you so much!! I'll keep working!

(oh, and i'm using a black vellux blanket as my backdrop, works great! good suggestion by someone on BP)


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1/26/2006 9:34:27 AM

 
Donna Dunbar
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/6/2003
  No Debbie, you still need the hotshoe to attach strobes. I'll try that when I get back from work tonight and let you know how it goes, thanks. :-)


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1/26/2006 9:37:04 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Donna,
Do you have one or radio controllers?
the AS-15 is about 9-15 dollors on ebay.


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1/26/2006 9:41:19 AM

 
Rebecca A. Steed
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/6/2005
 
 
 
Hi everyone! just bought some props and decided to try shooting. Unfortunately I was shooting with cloudy skies around 5 p.m., so had to turn ISO way up. But, I used it to my advantage to make them look like old time photos. Please tell me what you think. I plan to do more this weekend when I don't have to work and I can fiddle around all day with good light. These were shot, as well as others, in about 10 minutes.


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1/26/2006 9:52:26 AM

 
Donna Dunbar
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/6/2003
  Hi Debby, I have the hotshoe and I also have a radio controler.


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1/26/2006 9:58:05 AM

 
Donna Dunbar
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/6/2003
  Becky I really like the one in sepia!!


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1/26/2006 10:01:00 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Ok, best of luck- hope to see you post back later.

Beck those are very cute,
Maybe try angling him a little,I think you will like it better then straight on.
But very cute,he is a doll.
the second one is my fav.


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1/26/2006 10:02:28 AM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Becky- I love the second one, what a cutie!!


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1/26/2006 10:02:56 AM

 
Christine Herr
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Hello all! I can't believe how much is on this thread already!!
Congrats on your lights Amber!!!
Becky, I love the second picture!


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1/26/2006 10:19:59 AM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  Denyse,
They look really good to me...lighting looks just right!
Becky...love #2...cutie pie!

Ok...all you LOST fans....I am hopeless and last night my recording stopped 30 min into the show and I was murderous trying to find out who messed with it!! LOL...so the last think I got was Herly and Libby in the laundry room....can someone PLEASE tell me what happened...>I am going nuts!


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1/26/2006 10:20:29 AM

 
Melissa Farnsworth
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/5/2005
  Tonya-
Charlie kept freaking out saying he needed to protect Claire's baby. Locke found Charlie's stash of the Mary statues and put them in the safe. Charlie set a fire to distract everyone so he could take the baby but Locke caught him and punched him a couple of times. Charlie believed the baby needed to be baptised but Claire was really freaked out by Charlie. But secertly she went to Echo and had him baptise her and the baby. Not much else really with the other cast. Next weekend will be another rerun. AGAIN!


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1/26/2006 10:40:18 AM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  Thanks Melissa!
Man I feel better!
That show has replaced my addiction to Friends (have them all on dvd now!)
I also love ghostwhisperer, criminal minds and csi
on a funny note, two and a half men and Freddie keep me rolling!

and hey ya'll, I am out here in Texas and speaking of Ron White...LOVE HIM!
The wind is blowing today something awfull...it's not THAT the wind is blowin...it's WHAT the wind is blowin!
hahaha


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1/26/2006 10:57:14 AM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/29/2004
  Two & a half men is awesome! We love Family Guy; Seinfeld (yes, all the reruns and we have it on DVD); and I'm so hooked on Project Runway on Bravo. The designer show. it's great.

Becky, I love the sepia picture. Denyse, I like the first shot too.

Happy Thursday everyone.


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1/26/2006 11:08:08 AM

 
Denyse Clark
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/2/2002
  Becky- I love the antique one. What is "smart blur", I LOVE that dreamy effect it gives your photo!!!!


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1/26/2006 11:13:36 AM

 
Amber Bigelow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/15/2004
 
 
  test shot 2
test shot 2
iso 200, 200/f22
main is at 7 w/ umbrella, camera at 6, backlight off to side. It's backwards because I don't have a backdrop stand yet and have to work around furniture.

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Ok, so I got my lights out for some more test shots...who am I kidding. I never took them down last night! LOL Tell me what you think.


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1/26/2006 11:15:08 AM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2006
  Becky - wow! What a difference between shot one and two! You did a fantastic job with it.

Does anybody have any non-grad ideas? Although all of those are great and I might make her do them anyway for my own amusement... they're not actually her senior photos. She did those already. About 20 times (she's a little photo happy). :)


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1/26/2006 11:30:50 AM

 
Amber Bigelow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/15/2004
 
 
 
hmmm... what happened to #1???? Let me try again.


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1/26/2006 11:38:44 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Amber,
did you get 2 or 3 light system?
but try the main at 4:00oclock
and back them up just a little.

do let me know what kit you went with,send me a link or something.
Thanks


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1/26/2006 11:39:15 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Amber, see if maybe somehow it got saved on psd files.
I have to go to a meeting in 2 hours- so I will be off and on-then gone for a while till evening.


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1/26/2006 11:42:44 AM

 
Amber Bigelow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/15/2004
 
 
  test shot #1 again....
test shot #1 again....
using 2 photogenic 320's main at 1/2 backlight full
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one last try...


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1/26/2006 11:43:44 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  OH AND DONNA!!!!
I have been in such a panic this morning-I told you 200/22 f22lol,lol

200/200f22 sorry!!
thank God Amber posted her settings -she's such a GOOD girl,lol,lol

something went"Wait did I type wrong?"
and I went back and checked.
THANK YOU AMBER!!


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1/26/2006 11:45:50 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Hey Amber,
I think the color is very good, if you want a little more, just try the light at 4 oclock .
and/or back it up a bit.
but it looks real good


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1/26/2006 11:50:20 AM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  Amber...
Looking good girl!
I think the lighting is best on #2, but #1 is a good start. Of course I am no expert, just starting to understand this lighting thing myslef and no lights yet....but it looks balanced to me


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1/26/2006 11:50:49 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Actually, Amber will you try turning the Main Light down just a tiny bit.
and test.

thank you, just curious,man those look pressty powerful for just the 320's
Iam Happy!!!!


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1/26/2006 11:52:41 AM

 
Amber Bigelow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/15/2004
  Thanks! I'll practice on my other daughter in a bit. She wants to eat.... I want to play! LOL

BTW, welcome to all the newcomers. Sorry, in all my excitement I forgot to welcome you! LOL Great shot!


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1/26/2006 11:55:40 AM

 
Amber Bigelow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/15/2004
  Debby, I'll give it a try. They are powerful, AND I can't back up as far as I should because of unmovable furiture.


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1/26/2006 11:59:41 AM

 
Rebecca A. Steed
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/6/2005
 
 
  hi butterfly1
hi butterfly1
smart blur added for intentional softness, converted to sepia, natural light
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Nikon D70 Digital ...
 
 
Oops! I posted the wrong one. they were both supposed to be my antique ones. Here is the one that is in color earlier that I converted.
Amber, great job, especially for being a studio light newbie! I can't wait to join your ranks.


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1/26/2006 12:06:58 PM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
 
 
  Economy Class Travel
Economy Class Travel
Add lots of little props for these kind of shots. Her suitcase should have had some pearls hanging out. Some train tickets would have been cute too.
© Liza M. Franco
Sony Cyber-shot DS...
 
  Bridal Portrait
Bridal Portrait
Today she played a bride for a while.
© Liza M. Franco
Sony Cyber-shot DS...
 
  Sepia Bride
Sepia Bride
© Liza M. Franco
Sony Cyber-shot DS...
 
  Closup
Closup
Just liked her eyes and thought I'd share.
© Liza M. Franco
Sony Cyber-shot DS...
 
 
Becky I'm so glad you did post the wrong one. This a great example to show how sometimes switching to black and white or sepia can really pull the attention in to the subject. Great shot to show that boys can have fun shoots too. I find it a lot easier to come up with girl ideas and sometimes have a hard time with boys.

I wanted to post an old photo that I had to scan in. This shows what was mentioned way earlier on with a briefcase. I like that old time look so these two are sitting in old luggage. I look at my daughter now and can't believe she could sit in a train case. She has that look on her face because she thought the fur was a cat. I usually buy clothes that are a little too big so they look like they're playing dress up in older clothes. Thrift stores and garage sales are great for this.

The photos of Lena in the white dress show a great thrift store find. It must have been a flower girl dress, very poofed out. I bought it for three dollars with food stains all down the front of it. I soaked it in OxyClean and it is gorgeous. This was Malena's 1st dress up outfit of the day.

I'm really enjoying everyone's photos. Welcome to the new folks, I think you'll have a lot of fun on here.

Ok, I have to raise my hand too, big LOST fan.


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1/26/2006 1:00:39 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
 
 
 
Beautiful pictures guys!!
Amber- They look so good!! Very nice lighting.
I've finally found others who share my passion for the older style of photography. Here's a couple I did of my neice and my youngest son.


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1/26/2006 1:28:03 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
 
 
  From my Moments In Time Collection
From my Moments In Time Collection
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Beautiful pictures guys!!
Amber- They look so good!! Very nice lighting.
I've finally found others who share my passion for the older style of photography. Here's a couple I did of my neice and my youngest son.


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1/26/2006 1:28:20 PM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Dawn, these are adorable. There is something really special about the one of your neice, I really like that one.

I have a huge passion when it comes to old time photos. I also really like the old western photos. I'm really in a sewing mood so I think I'm going to try to work on some costumes tonight after the little one goes to sleep. I need to focus on some little people western outfits, I just can't dress little girls up in saloon girl outfits as I've seen. So, I'm going for the little house on the prairie look. One of the hardest things for me is finding period-looking shoes. I go for the barefoot look if I can't find something appropriate. Who can resist cute little toes?


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1/26/2006 1:41:30 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Bare feet is the best! But I want to do some of my neice with little black boots (she just got some from Payless) that would be perfect for that look. If you remember Little House on the Prairie, they wore the boots.
After I took the one of my son as a cowboy in his underwear, I found a brown leather vest (adults) that would have looked perfect! I always find stuff after I've done the shoot. lol

I've sold cards with these two prints on them. They are from my "Moments In Time Collection".
If you look in my gallery, I have more there but I also have some in b&w of my boys in overalls and that is from my "Friends Forever Collection". (also on cards)


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1/26/2006 1:52:42 PM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
  Becky, nice. Can you move your subject farther away from the BG?
Dawn, I like your style! :-)

Amber, way to go... the fun is just beginning.


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1/26/2006 2:26:48 PM

 
Rebecca A. Steed
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/6/2005
  Thank you liza. I love the first one of your kids when they were little. really classic. And yours too Dawn, my favorite is the one of your niece.
Erinn, I'm going to try this whole setup again on Saturday, but tonight I wanted to try out my new props. I had about 15 minutes of light left before the sun went down, so he is sitting on a table right next to the window. I want to move him farther from the backdrop Sat. when I can put him on the floor. Thank you for the suggestion! I'm heading to bed guys. Great stuff, can't wait to wake up and see what ya'll have posted while I've been sleeping


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1/26/2006 2:41:10 PM

 
Liz Hincka   Good job Amber!! Ladies, your classic sepia photos are really beautiful!! Liza, I am always amazed at your photoshop abilities with those templates. Really amazing! Danielle, about your shoot with the high school girl. You know, sometimes to me, the simplest of portraits with no prop, etc of certain people is very powerful. To capture the moment and personality is stunning in and of itself. Just use your imagination, you have great work to build from!! I am sure they will be great!!


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1/26/2006 3:04:46 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Thanks! Yeah, my favorite is the one of neice also. It was just a last minute idea that I put together in my sisters livingroom and used natural light.
The one of my son is cute because if you look closely, his tongue is out. It's hilarious!!
I have both of these pictures mounted on plaques and put up in a second hand kids clothing boutique.


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1/26/2006 3:18:43 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  He reminds me of one of the Little Rascals!


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1/26/2006 3:20:05 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  Those are all really good photos...everyone is doing so good!
I have been bad and not welcomed the newcomers either...so spank my hand...So sorry and welcome!

Can anyone tell me how to make those photo collages where it is their name- like cutout- and the photos are in the letters?
Love that and cannot figure it out! I want to do it so bad!


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1/26/2006 3:25:20 PM

 
Sandi DeBondt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/12/2006
  Good evening everyone. Great photos from all!!! I can only hope to get that good.

I have my first paying customer on Saturday!!! Two sisters, ages 6 mos and 2 years. Any suggestions for posing? I have been going through everyones gallery looking for ideas to steal. They are so great! I am, however, right now limited on props. I have a white and black background. It seems everyone prefers the white with kids? Thanks so much for your help.


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1/26/2006 4:16:45 PM

 
Liz Hincka   Does anyone have any preferred internet site to shop for muslin backdrops? I recall Michelle saying she had a heck of a time with Backdrop outlet.


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1/26/2006 4:22:38 PM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2006
  Tonya - I can help you with that. Hopefully you have photoshop and I won't be writing all this up for no reason. :)

This is how I do it anyway...

First write out whatever word you want and I always recommend that you choose one of those big bulky fonts and maybe even make it bulkier (which you can do in the text menu.. it's the T with the arrow underneath it). Then flatten your image (Layer>Flatten Image).

Next you'll want to find your photo that you want to insert. Open it up. Select the part that you want to put in the letter and copy it. Then go back to your text document and using the magic wand, highlight the first letter. Then go to edit>paste into. And from there you can use your move tool to move around your image to where you want it and you can resize it and all of that.

I hope it works for you! Good luck!


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1/26/2006 4:25:50 PM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/29/2004
  THanks for sharing that Danielle! I've often wondered how that was done too! I may be having to try that out this weekend. :)
I LOVE those old time looking ;photos. I need to spend more time taking pictures and less time cleaning house!


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1/26/2006 4:50:51 PM

 
Melissa Farnsworth
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/5/2005
  Liz-
I have bought 2 muslin backdrops from Owen's Originals and I love them.


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1/26/2006 5:06:39 PM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Thanks Becky. I can only claim the little girl. The little boy is a friend's little guy. I do have a boy too, but he is 20 now.

Liz thanks for the compliment on the templates, I really appreciate it. I can't stop, I'm working on a bunch more already and spreading out to the digital scrapbooking world too. I'm addicted to templates too. Gosh between BP, Templates, LOST and Chocolate, what's a girl to do? Now those are some heavy duty addictions.

Brenda, the old time ones are so much fun. They are really one of my favorites as far as themes. I'm eyeing an old broken down barn and just trying to get up the nerve to go ask if I can take some of the wood. They won't do anything with it after it falls, nobody here ever does. You'll just see heaps of wood that used to be a structure. There are so many fun ways to do the old fashioned photos though depending on what period you like. I'm just kind of eclectic with it. I have tons of ideas for those if you ever need any.

Danielle, thanks for filling Tonya in on the name collages. My instructions are always really detailed and take forever to type out.


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1/26/2006 5:23:10 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  Danielle,
THANKS! I knew it had to be rather simple, but I could not get it figured out, ...yeah I have photoshop, and I was trying to "cut out" the letters, and then I could not wrap my blonde brain around any other idea! I will be working on that soon!

Congrats Sandi!!! For posing ideas...hmmmm... I would try laying the baby down and get a series of the 2 yr old kissing the baby. Maybe a rocker where she can hold the baby? A cradle with her looking in "checking" on the baby. Maybe lay her on her side and have her kind of "spoon" the baby...or have her sit indian style with baby sitting up in her lap. Laying on their tummies looking at each other....that is all my brain can do with a sinus headache...debby will be on later, I am sure she can help.


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1/26/2006 5:53:40 PM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/29/2004
  LIza, that sounds like a great plan.. at first I though you were going to say you wanted to buy the entire barn! hahaha

Do you have a studio? Right now I don't have time, space or money for an actual studio although that is a long term goal of mine. I have a ton of ideas rolling in my brain for when that happens.

Every store I'm in I think "props".. haha Even tonight at Bed, Bath & Boyond, my 13yr old was like "Mom, this would be a cool prop for you!"

I have her brainwashed already. And she is now using a digital camera and loving it.

Hopefully she'll be even better than me!


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1/26/2006 6:44:44 PM

 
Donna Dunbar
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/6/2003
  Hi Liz, I really like B&H photo for just about everything, I have ordered from Backdrop outlet before without problems however I have never ordered backdrops from them I think they are a little pricey. B&H is about the best source for about anything and they are very fast, reasonable and helpful.


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1/26/2006 6:46:27 PM

 
Sandi DeBondt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/12/2006
  Thank you Tonya I appreciate the imput. I think I can make some of those things work. I think like Brenda, when I go shopping I'm thinking props, but the budget says no at this time. I do have a few that I have never used and I'll try using them. I hope I enjoy this experience as much as the rest of you do. I have been mostly a nature photographer so this is pretty new. Again, thanks for your imput.


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1/26/2006 7:05:58 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  Sandi,
also..what about them looking at a book together?

I have two backdrops, white and black muslin and a back drop stand that I got from Steve kaeser...he is on ebay and has his own site.
I think it was all about $200 and I am loving it. I got the big backdrops, just so I would have room to work, but peple are using all sorts of things.


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1/26/2006 7:23:26 PM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Careful ladies, before you know it props can take over your home :) I really am at the point where I don't think I can get too many more props without getting rid of some. I have really eclectic taste, so many of my props are things that I just fell in love with and incorporate into portraits.

That's how I ended up with the all girl room that my husband refers to as the Bordello. It is just filled with antiques, hats, boas, velvet all really girlie old stuff. I guess it reminds him of what an old bordello would look like. But every girl who goes in there reverts back to playing girlhood dressup. Nobody can resist the hats.

Brenda I am in the process of moving all of my studio stuff back home right now. I did share a space with my husband's business, but he is getting ready to move into a smaller building. He's promising to clear out the garage and make it presentable as a studio, I'll beleive it when I see it. It is plenty big enough and separate from the house, but it is also loaded with stuff. I so badly want a place to have permanent little scenes set up instead of constantly having to move stuff out of the way.

Ok, here is one of my crazy ideas. I have a stretch of backyard that is the only part without trees for privacy. I wanted to build a little stretch of structures in a row that could be used by my daughter and her friends as playhouses and by me for photography. I want a victorian looking house, a rugged looking western type and maybe a woodland cottage. Gee, I wonder where my daughter gets her wild imagination???

Oh well, one can dream.


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1/26/2006 7:36:00 PM

 
Debbie Nelson
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/19/2001
  Whew!! Found ya'll. I've been so busy, I guess I missed the post for the new link.
My college classes sure do interfere with my camera obsessions. LOL I will be reading more than commenting for the next few months. I will drop in when I can.
Deb


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1/26/2006 7:53:39 PM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/29/2004
 
 
 
Okay, this is very ROUGH! I had Danielle's directions in one window and PS open in another, but I tried it. It took some trial & error, a few gripes & groans... but I did it. This is absolutely the most creative thing I've accomplished in PS outside of auto contrast & auto color! hahaha

Please tell me what you think. I did it in about 45 minutes, so I just grabbed photos trying to catch onto the concept of how to do it. If this looks somewhat right, I'm going to keep practicing. One day soon I'll be brave enough to try a template!!!!


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1/26/2006 7:57:16 PM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/29/2004
  I didn't quite get the best font, I couldn't find one "fat" enough. I'm just tickled I finally figured out something in PS. Danielle, when we have our Northeast workshop, I'm going to bake you a cake or something! You're awesome! Thank you!!!!!


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1/26/2006 8:01:07 PM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2006
  Brenda - It's cute! The font seems appropriate to me. I usually use Impact (I think it comes standard) because it's so big and then I make it even fatter. Something else I often do is fill in the holes in the O and sometimes the A. That's personal preferance but I've always found that it doesn't really make it any less readable but it makes the photos more visible. Your choice! :)

Speaking of that northeast workshop... has anybody decided when we're having it? I haven't checked the map thread in awhile.


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1/26/2006 8:04:31 PM

 
Donna Dunbar
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/6/2003
  I have been thinking on an idea that a friend of mine in Denmark says they do a lot. It's called a photographer's co-op. Many photographer's share the same building using maybe a few of the same studio's and maybe lighting eqipment. However they have their own camera's and the jobs they have are their own. My friend suggested maybe having a little gallery with images for sale also. In this way some people who may not want to do photography full time could only work or take jobs when they want to and since all are sharing expences doing jobs when you want to wouldn't be such a finacial burden and presure to take on tons of jobs to make ends meet, that is as long as you could all agree that all expences must be shared equally. What do you all think, do you think something like that would work??


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1/26/2006 8:06:29 PM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/29/2004
  Well, I'm hoping to host it, but so far we only have two that have said they would want to attend. Yourself and Denyse. Nikki & I will be there too obviously, we live in the same town.

So hopefully we'll get more who want to attend!


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1/26/2006 8:06:54 PM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/29/2004
  That sounds like a good idea Donna... I'll have to catch up later, hubby just got home from working late and I want to spend some time with him.


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1/26/2006 8:08:20 PM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/29/2004
  Donna.... how far are you from Western Maryland? I'm trying to get enough attendees to host a workshop that Debby & Liza do. THink you'd be interested?

We're gonna have FUN!!!!


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1/26/2006 8:13:59 PM

 
Denyse Clark
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/2/2002
  Hi guys, I'm here... I usually just read thru your threads & not comment much as I'm trying to learn more & more about studio work to one day get one going. I'm doing the impromptu studio at the moment- I rearranged my furniture tonight to accomodate more actually :)

I am somewhat interested in the workshop, cost dependant! This thread overwhelms me, but I check in when I can, haha. Keep me posted, brenda you have my email. Goodnight everyone!


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1/26/2006 8:22:09 PM

 
Sandra 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/31/2002
  Liza,
You and I seem to be much a like...
I Have 2 boys 24 and 17 and a girl 3.
I love old fashion Photos, and wow your CRAZY ideas I don't think are crazy Because thats just what I want to do. My Mama owns the old house that she was born in, I want to tair it down use the lumber to build Ashley a playhouse (for me to use as a backdrop) I want a old looking barn, old looking tree swing in a flower garden. I love garage sales. Have you ever went to the longest garage sale it like500 miles long?
You said you had tons of ideas (old fashion photo) when you have time I'm always looking for new ideas.


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1/26/2006 8:23:33 PM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2006
  Hey have any of you ever actually taken classes on this site? If I could ever afford it I think I'd be interested... I just wanted to get some first hand opinions.

Although this thread is much like a class in itself... maybe we should be handing out homework assignments. :)


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1/26/2006 8:30:12 PM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Hey Sandra,

Yes we are alike. I love doing the whole little girl thing. I'm already teaching Malena how to work with tools so that she can help me with all the projects we'll have ahead of us. You know, I'm planning on building some just because I have certain ideas in mind. But, a lot of times people are more than happy to let you take a few shots of people in front of their existing old buildings. When I ask, most people just look at me like, "why on earth would you want a picture in front of that old thing."

I think it would be really special for your daughter to have a playhouse built out of her granny's house, recycled wood is great and that would be a nice way to pass it on.

I've never been to the longest garage sale, sounds like something I'd have to save up for. Things are kinda tight with my husband and I both opening up our own businesses. But at least we're doing what we enjoy, we just have to remind each other of that when the bills come around. As I think of good ideas or do photos of them, I'll try to pass them your way. You do the same though because mine usually come in spurts. Have a great night.


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1/26/2006 8:40:22 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Hey everyone! Wow, it sure gets busy at this time.
Brenda- Awesome job with the lettering!
Danielle- I think that is an awesome idea. I can't afford to take any of the classes/workshops on here either. I think if we had assignments to give eachother we could still get the practice and skills that we need to improve our work. I'm all for it!!


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1/26/2006 8:46:21 PM

 
Nicole E. Rappaport
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/4/2004
  wow!! this place was jumping while I was out! :)

i LOVE the old time photos Dawn and Liza...they look great! :)

and Brenda, very cool lettering!!


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1/26/2006 8:49:36 PM

 
Pat Wimpee   Hey Donna, I tried your idea and so far it hasn't worked out very good. I placed an ad a few times but only got one person to respond. He's rented space for a few times, but he doesn't really have enough clients to justify it. But I keep looking for a few people. It would sure help to cover the rent:)


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1/26/2006 8:50:50 PM

 
Sandra 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/31/2002
  Brenda,
Great Job on your name collage.
Dawn,
It's 11:00 here , what time is it there?


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1/26/2006 8:54:49 PM

 
Nancy C. Cassell   This is my first time getting into this, so I hope I'm responding in the right place. Someone asked about posing pre-teens. Good comments and ideas already. Some young girls are very confident and natural. I prefer people of any age doing things that they like to do rather than posed. Have them bring their own props - things they love from home or school - sports gear, books, their photo album, old snuggly toy, hobby/craft. Have them tell you about it while you are setting up. See how they look naturally. If things don't fall into place, have some ideas to share. Print out pictures that you like, clip some from teen mags, or clothing catalogs. That might help you see a style that you like and would work for you.

Nancy


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1/26/2006 9:08:16 PM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Whew, its midnight here and I just can't seem to get off of here, have to keep checkin' it one more time. For Dawn and anyone else, Debby and I don't do our workshops through BP, we are independant. We both enjoy this group so much that we try to help and give as much information to everyone as possible, but sometimes its hard via internet. Hands on learning in person is great and we do the traveling. If you would like more information on how to recieve a class for free, let me know.

I completely understand about the money issue, I think it is tight for everyone. Photography is art right? I think we can fall into the starving artist category :)

Donna, I like your idea too, but I wonder if maybe instead of having actual competition in the same space, what about other types of artists. Kind of a gallery where people can sell their work and also have small studio spaces from which to do their work. Maybe one big room that would be the gallery where everyone's work gets displayed together.

My husband and I have talked about this a lot over the years, but its hard in a small town like ours. Pat, I can't remember, are you in a small town too?

Nicole, its always hard playing catchup, these threads are really fast these days. Thanks for the comliment on the photos. I'm so glad to see others interested in those kind of portraits.

Brenda, the name collages are a great seller, wait until your friends see them.


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1/26/2006 9:12:10 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Sandra- It's 9:20 here. Just as it starts getting busy in here, within mins, it starts to die down a bit. :(
Oh well, I think I'm getting too addicted to this. lol It's so interesting viewing everyone's work and sharing ideas and then it even gets a bit thrilling when it starts to get a bit catty in here. LOL (not mentioning any names) jk


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1/26/2006 9:21:53 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Seriously though, I do love the idea of the assignments for everyone to try, or at least who ever wants to participate in each one. I'm not so much into free classes but having a picture to do is a bit more hands on for me.


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1/26/2006 9:24:06 PM

 
Sandra 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/31/2002
  Dawn,
I saw where you were asking about the time (time zone). I'm in Louisiana, 2 hours ahead of you.


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1/26/2006 9:31:49 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  It seems that most people are either the same time or 2hours ahead.
Is anyone else here right now?


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1/26/2006 10:00:57 PM

 
Amber Bigelow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/15/2004
 
 
  testing 1
testing 1
iso 200 200/f22 unedited
lights at 7 and 4, both on full power

© Amber Bigelow
Canon EOS Digital ...
 
  testing 2
testing 2
same settings as above, but with lights at 1/2 power
I like the color on this one the best.

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Canon EOS Digital ...
 
  testing 3
testing 3
same settings as above, but with lights at 1/4 power.
© Amber Bigelow
Canon EOS Digital ...
 
 
Brenda - nice job on the collages. I haven't tackled that yet...

Dawn & Liza - I love the vintage looking photos too.

Well, I did get to play a little bit today. I had some trouble when I tried to move one of my lights as a backlight. It wouldn't sync up with my other light, so I guess I'm going to have to get a hotshoe for my camera so I can attach the sync cords. They work fine when they are on each side of the camera, but when I start moving them around, I run into problems. I tried soooo many different positions and settings on the lights. I should of had my daughter hold a dry erase board that said what settings I was using for that shot, because I can't remember! LOL Anway, I'll post a few shots because Debby was curious about the different powers on the lights. Do keep in mind that I have a very small room, and so the lights are closer than they should be and I'm using a shoot thru umbrella, which I've heard lessens the light a bit. Until I get a backdrop stand and some refelctor umbrellas, this will be a problem.
But I had sooo fun playing. My daughter was so excited about modeling for me. I had my camera hooked up to my tv so I could see better what the lighting looked like. I couldn't figure out why I kept having to move my camera over to the side again and again until I realized that my daughter was shifting trying to see herself on the tv. LOL She's such a ham.

Anyway, here are the test shots at different powers. Wasn't concerned about posing yet, just playing around trying to figure out what I can do with the lights. So far I love them! I will definitely want a backlight very soon, but until I get some $$$ coming in, I'll have to wait. *sigh*

NIght everyone!


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1/26/2006 11:32:27 PM

 
Nancy C. Cassell   Hi Dawn - I'll be the late one. I'm in WA, so PST. I have a 4 yr old who stays up until 10. So, my computer time is usually late.

Anyone else in Washington?

Hi Sandra - where in Louisiana? I'm originally from Covington and my parents are there. I'll be going back lots because my dad has cancer. Let me know if you live in the New Orleans area.

I look forward to getting to know everyone and their work.

Nancy


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1/27/2006 12:27:34 AM

 
Melissa Farnsworth
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/5/2005
  Good morning everyone! Yall sure where busy last night!!! I love the idea of having assignments. I try to give myself assignments but I usually don't have time. On my lunch break yesterday I went to Garden Ridge (huge store that has just about everything) I found one of those bushel barrels for 3.00 and some fake red apples for about .50 each. I only bought a few. I would like to get one of those large cooking pots with a chef hat because they had alot of there veggies on clearance too. Anyway have a happy Friday and will check in later!


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1/27/2006 4:52:22 AM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2006
  I actually would love to be given assignments as well... even though I was kind of joking when I said it in the first place. The only problem is that we'd have to find somebody willing to make them and grade them.

I love the angel pics. I don't really have a trained eye but I don't see the difference in lighting between the first two. Maybe I would if I could really put them up side by side, though.


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1/27/2006 5:27:07 AM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
 
Hello everyone, it has taken me a long time to read (and absorb) all the information going on in here. I love the baby pictures they are wonderful. The green fairy is just lovely, I love taking pictures of little girls but my entire neighborhood is full of testerones!!!! Anyway, I need your opinions of a picture that I took over the holidays and am going to print a copy and give it to the mother which is also my step daughter. I need to know which photo looks best if the color or the one with the softer tones. I am also waiting for my lights (Alien bees) that should be here by next week. However, I have no softboxes just umbrellas and I do not know if the effect is going to be similar or am I going to end up with uneven lighting.

Thank you for your help,
Suzy


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1/27/2006 5:33:10 AM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
 
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1/27/2006 5:37:52 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Amber,
I am sorry, I had some meetings yesterday and ended up out till late.
The second one is perfect. the dry Erease board it a nice idea, but reat assured I can usually tell if I know to start you are on the 200/200 f22 settings.
Now what concerns me is theone light should be slaving .
Check to make sure there is no plastic or anything over the sleve cell.
I will be calling Photoogenic today to follow up on this problem and get some workshop materials needed.
but Great Job!!!!!!
email me your address,I believe I have a extra umbrella I can send you.


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1/27/2006 5:38:16 AM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
  Question: I just posted two images and although I re-sized them to 500w x 750 h
72 dpi they do not look sharp. All other images here look sharp and nice. My original images are sharp but looking at them here (not so nice). What am I doing wrong?

Thanks
Suzy


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1/27/2006 5:51:00 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Suzy, I have noticed there was something going on,lol
now that you post the settings ,try resizing using 4x6 and 300dpi and see if you like this better.
I have the computer side of things,lol.
but this I do know the 300dpi setting is the BEST to save on-at that you can print to all sizes your pixal ratio will allow with the highest quality.
i hope this helps,


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1/27/2006 6:01:16 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  oh yes and I like #2 best.

Also you will find you can do more with the Umbrellas.
I use 1 umbrella and 1 softbox.
Or 2 umbrellas .
or 1 umbrells 1 parobolic reflector.


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1/27/2006 6:03:55 AM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
  Deb, if I resize in PS using the crop tool using the 4x6 at 300 dpi I still end up with a very larg file 6.18m which I will not be able to post here. Okay, so am a little slow!!! :) Also, are you using the soft box as your main source of light?

Suzy


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1/27/2006 6:12:09 AM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
 
Trying to resize the photo to looker sharper. Sorry guys, promise to learn ASAP.

Suzy


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1/27/2006 6:14:39 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Suzy,
those are the settings I use all the time, has been workin' for me.
I don't use the crop tool, I go to : image, image size, and change to 4x6 300 dpi.

No not always, as I have stated in thread 12(loved #12,lol,lol)
the softbox will flood the area with a diffused light.
the umbrellas can act like a parobolic reflector and is easier to see where the light is going.


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1/27/2006 6:16:24 AM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
 
Any sharper???


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1/27/2006 6:18:47 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Oh Suzy,
I like it alot better at that crop.
I like seeing her closer like that-thats the one I would send!
good job!!!!:-)


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1/27/2006 6:26:07 AM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
  Oh thank you so much Deb!
I cannot wait for my lights to get here since I do have umbrellas but like I say no soft boxes. My only problem is going to be surching for victims to pose for me :) I like little girls dress up like ballerinas sooo I am going to approach one of the ballet schools in the area for some possible models (freebies). Thank you so much for all the help you give everyone here! Right now I am going to wear my other hat and go to work :( All I want to do is play with my camera ALL DAY LONG! Have a nice day,
Suzy


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1/27/2006 6:36:23 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  you Have a great day as well and try to remember that other hat helps you afford new toys, it's a good thing for now,
Debby :-)


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1/27/2006 6:39:38 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  LOVE IT, SUZY! Great crop!

WOW, ALL!!! Are we going on 1 thread per day, here, or what!?!?!? LOL!

Everyone is doing great work! Amber, I like #2 best, too!

Brenda great job on the name collage!

Dawn, ADORABLE portraits!

Becky, adorable! GREAT conversion to sepia & s/c! It's always fun to see the before and after on those!!!

I know I've missed a bunch, but I saw and read everything, my brain is spinning right now! LOL!

Welcome newcommers to "the thread"!!!

I have a newborn/family shoot today at 1:30. I have a ton to do to get my house and me ready, (plus try to spend some time with the kids!!!) so I won't be around much again today. Have fun! I'll check in later!


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1/27/2006 6:40:04 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Hey Laura!!

ok anyone looking for lights:
this is a full 3 light kit of photogenics on a one day sale:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Like-brand-new-3-photogenic-mono-light-kit-and-extras_W0QQitemZ7585331407QQcategoryZ30087QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


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1/27/2006 6:46:58 AM

 
Sandra 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/31/2002
  Hi Nancy,
I live in Jonesville, it across the bridge from natchez ms. Between Ferriday and Alexandria. If your this way Maybe will have lunch together.
I'm out for the day.


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1/27/2006 8:15:03 AM

 
Sandra 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/31/2002
  Debby,
Are these strong enough and would you need anythhing to go with them ? Are these the one that you told me you can always update or add to them?
Thanks Sandra


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1/27/2006 8:29:10 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Sandra,
these are Studio Max II's (witch I have never seen operate before) they are the generation before Amber's she has Studio Max III.
A friend of Lauras and BP member Connie Turnner has these and Laura told me she loves them.
I do know this they are Photogenic and all accessories will go with you as you upgrade in the future.
also it looks like all is there and I don't think you would need a thing.
But, I will say this: look at this kit it is the same (but the III series) at $799(?) SO I WOULD NOT PAY MUCH OVER HIS OPENING BID!! he told me already he's would take $600.00 so that is what he has been after, to get close to that.
here's the link: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=245820&is=REG&addedTroughType=categoryNavigation

good luck.


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1/27/2006 8:46:01 AM

 
Denyse Clark
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/2/2002
  Danielle-

I've taken 3 classes on this site & loved them! Jims Beginner class, Bryans Exposure class, and Jim Z.'s Mastering Light class. That one I took and didn't get much out of it at time b/c it was over my head, but NOW i'm going thru the printed lessons and learning alot!!


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1/27/2006 8:50:21 AM

 
Cari F. Minnamon   Phew!! I finally found all of you! Again!! This is going to be a very long post so I may have to split it up. These threads move at the speed of light I'm telling you. Anyway, hello everyone. My name is Cari and I have been trying to catch up with these threads for the past two weeks, but they have been very helpful. Here is my story. I have been doing photography pretty much forever. I worked in a portrait studio for over a year doing school and senior portraits so I'm not a total novice when it comes to portrait photography, but when I worked at the studio our cameras and lights were fixed so there was no creative control on my part what so ever. I have gone to Europe and London twice over the past 3 years and so have done alot of landscape, architecture, and fine art photography, but I have not done alot of portraits on my own with my own camera and lighting set up and can use all the advice I can get. I just purchased a Canon Digital Rebel XT the beginning of January. As soon as I purchased the camera my boss, who is running for congress asked me to do all of his congressional pictures. (Events, headshots etc. etc.) Quite the undertaking. So I need some advice on event photography. I also have the 430ex speedlight for my camera and purchased a stroboframe camera flip and an omnibounce for these events. I have the 18-55mm lens that came with the camera and I also purchased a 70-300mm telephoto lens as well. By stepping out in faith and purchasing the camera, as well as agreeing to do the congressional pictures this has swung the door wide open for doing family and child portraits as well. This is the line up for this month and I could use advice on all of them. Tommorrow I am doing some commercial work taking pictures of a crystal "Lambs Book" This book is about 5"x8" and my client wants me to take pictures of it in places in her home. For example on a grand piano etc. This is an item that she is selling and needs photos for her web site. Oh, I didn't tell you my lighting situation. Besides the 430ex speedlight, I have just recieved my two B800 Alien bees. One has a white shoot thru umbrella, the other has a silver/white reversable umbrella. As far as backgrounds go I am purchasing a 10x24 white muslin today. And hopefully I will get a black one the same size for my birthday. I have a posing bench, a 32" 5 in 1 reflector with stand and boom, a 22" 5 in 1 reflector. And ummmm I think thats it. Next Friday I am doing an event for my boss (Congressman in the running) for a Lincoln day Gala. He wants pictures of him (Candid not posed) with different people around the event. I am basically going to trail him with the camera using my telephoto, so I don't need to get in his face. But other than that I am clueless about these kind of events. The following week I am doing Valentine's Day portraits at the College where I work and go to school to raise money for the Student Government Assoc. I was going to use a purple velvet background but after testing out some shots using my lights on it last night, the velvet is so rich a purple that it just looks black. HELP!! I think that I am going to go with plan B here and use a white background, a column, ummm maybe a rose or two. Any suggestions here would be helpful also. The following week, I am doing family portraits with a family that have an 8 year old, 6 year old, and 2mo. old baby. at their home. Posing and lighting suggesitons here would be greatly appreciated. The week after that I am doing a Mother and Daughter shoot. The Daughter is 9 (This is where I asked about any poses for tweens) They just bought a house and Mom wants some pics to hang up. She likes very close ups, and more modern poses opposed to traditional. So any posing suggestions, cropping suggestions, and lighting suggestions would be more than welcome. Whew, I think that's about it. Oh, Also someone that was in one of the threads also has a Canon Rebel XT and has no lights at the moment but only uses her speedlight set on a tripod and her pics are beautiful. It is exactly the look I am going for. So if you could give me some info on how you set that up. (Camera settings as well as how you link your speedlight up with your camera when its on the tripod and what your flash settings are) I would love to talk with you becuase I want to experiment with it. If you want to see some of my photos that I have done so far go to http://imagesofeurope.shutterfly.com (I'm at work so I can't upload any of the photos I did last night right now.) HELP ME!! Thanks, Cari


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1/27/2006 9:08:27 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Amber, I like #2 and Suzy, the crop makes a world of difference, wow.

I want to share with everyone for a minute. Today is big excitement for a local musician and myself. His cds just came in and he's having a "just released" party tonight. He said that there are at least 7 of my photos on it. He is a very nice guy and I'm so happy to see his dream of putting out a cd come to fruition. I'm really happy to be a part of it and can't wait to see the cover. I feel like a little kid who just hit a homerun. I'm all giddy right now, you guys would get a good laugh if you could see me in person being all silly.

This is one of those situations where it is really hard to know what to charge. I don't know how many cds he's ordered even. He already paid for the session and I charged him $75.00 per photo and he seemed fine with that. He said he's going to use them on his website too and pay me for that, so that's great. I really have no idea what the standard pricing is for this, anyone else have any idea? I don't know if I'm high or low with that amount. I've done a few cds now, got taken on the first couple so I'm trying to learn by my mistakes. I really enjoy this type of photography though and would love to do more. Any suggestions?


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1/27/2006 9:19:03 AM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Amber- I also love the second one.
Suzy- Love the second one also and the crop does make a huge difference.

I just had to throw this in:
In all my photography books and also from other professional photographers I have learned that using umbrellas isn't as good as softboxes or bounced light. The umbrellas create a very unrealistic catch light in the eyes (octagon). Whereas the softbox leaves a shape that could pass for a window, a more natural look.
Just had to get my thoughts out.


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1/27/2006 9:26:21 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Cari, congratulations, what a cool opportunity. I love doing portraits, but there is something really exhilerating about photojournalistic work that I just can't get enough of. Oh, have fun with it, I am so excited for you. Sounds like you have a good set up for the event shots.

Debby is the one who will be of help to you on posing. I'm sure she'll pop in and give you some suggestions. I have to go help my sister pack so she can move across town, but when I get back in I will post a photo suggestion for the mom and daughter that may work.

Have a great day.


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1/27/2006 9:27:57 AM

 
Christine Herr
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Great pics everyone!

Liza - Congrats...that is awesome!!! Unfortunately I cannot offer any advice on pricing...I would have no idea what to charge either. As you would be selling him the rights to the picture, you should charge probably a bit higher than $75 I would think.


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1/27/2006 9:30:38 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Ok Cari,
I will try to give some ideas for one at a time.
the Lamb book:
Piano: from the front of the piano, so keys show, all white behind it, lite up the background, the glass book should not need a lot of light, portrait setting on camera to blur the background. Crystal vase with white lillys and book on a art easel. this is all stuff she mostlikely has.

a shot near bed: in the bedroom, turn down the bed and dent the pillow as if someone has been there, clear night stand of everything but the book,maybe a light if there is one an da pair of reading glasses: raise your light shooting through a umbrella for soft light as high as you can shooting down on to part of the pillow andmore on the night stand-again on portrait setting take the shot from the other side of noghtstand looking accross the it an dthe bed.

A Garden Shot: A lounge chair, table with the garden in the back, on the table, the book and maybe a cup of coffee or iced tea.
maybe a garden hat in the lounge.
take the shot looking over hte table on to the launge.
ok,I'll look at the next and get to it in a bit.
these are just some thoughts,don't really know if they are what you are looking for.
Debby


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1/27/2006 9:35:31 AM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/29/2004
  Liza, that is way too cool! My husband just released his newest CD and I did his cover photo & back photo as well. Although it wasn't of him! haha Anyway, he's pretty familiar with what other musicians are paying for that sort of thing, I'll check with him tonight to see if he has any thoughts.

I would think that if you gave a "one-time" use fee for each photo he wants to use on the website that would probably work. And then I would even ask that he puts a referral link to your site you know "photos taken by" sort of thing. That way you'll get all that extra publicity!

I probably won't have an answer for you before the big celebration but I'll get it too you as soon as I can. :)

Haha, I just realized I don't have the file of the finished cover! DUH! If you're interested in seeing it check out www.fevertech.com and click on "Free Music" you'll see the cd cover as well as what the cd looks like.


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1/27/2006 9:38:31 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Dawn,
when it comes to what you might want to use it will depend on the look you want . Being in this business SSSOOOO long you see a lot of trends come and go(as in anything)
I was just talking about this to that older photographer, he to has been doing this a tad longer then I and we both were taking about how it is startig to come around again to the Parobolic look we loved so much after years spent where softboxes and high key were the rage.
So it all depends on the look you are after and thats why I keep so many different types of diffusion around.
I did post some examples of useing some on thread #12.
Actually, I was just talking to Liza . telling her I was concidering making another CD on studio set up and diffusion and studio equiptment.
I just think you should not worry what comes with a kit , or what you have at the moment-make it work.
you will end up collecting and adding to your studio as you go along.


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1/27/2006 9:45:57 AM

 
Cari F. Minnamon   Thanks Debbie, I will try some of those ideas out. Any advise on the others? Also the person that has the Canon XT that only uses her speedlight is Natalie Howe from Thread #1. Natalie if your out there HELP TOO PLEASE!!


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1/27/2006 9:53:40 AM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Brenda- Love the cd cover, awesome job!

Debby- yeah, I know that it's personal preference, that's why I had to add the effect it can give so others know as well. Personally I don't use one but my sister in law does and I don't like the look it can give. (but that's just me) :)


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1/27/2006 10:01:58 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Natalie,
is in Austlaia, so I notice there is a time difference- so I rearly see here on line at the same time. I belive she works a company job as well.
she also has recently got herself a light kit.
so if I were you I would maybe cut an dpaste her your post and send it through her contact, so she knows you would like her input as well.
just a thought.
I will look at the others-I have to go make Matt breakfast-he's home from school


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1/27/2006 10:04:50 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Oh I understand Dawn, but at some point you will mostlikely own them all as well.Because they are all good for different times and looks.
you can see the differentce in even the head shots the different and soft to dramtic looks you get from the different ones.

It SUCKS there is just so much to own.


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1/27/2006 10:08:39 AM

 
Cari F. Minnamon   Thanks Liza, it is a very cool opportunity. I am very excited to be his official campaign photographer, but at the same time it is a huge responsibility and it has me freaking out a bit!! That's why I'm getting all the advice I can get. And then I just pray and shoot!!


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1/27/2006 10:22:00 AM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
  Gone Fishing
Gone Fishing
© Suzy Betancourt
Canon EOS 1Ds Digi...
 
 
Just showing off a pic of my pride and joy
my little boy Jov.

Suzy


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1/27/2006 10:22:59 AM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Suzy- What an awesome portrait, love the location. Where's that at?
Your son is adorable!


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1/27/2006 10:31:34 AM

 
Amber Bigelow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/15/2004
  Hi Everyone! Ok, I actually had to get a pen and paper to keep track of who I needed to comment on. LOL I haven't had all of my coffee yet, so my memory isn't quite functioning yet so bare with me.

Suzy, I like #3 the best. Great job!

Danielle, there isn't much difference between my 1&2 but if you look closer (and it's easier to see on my computer) her face is warmer in the 2nd one.

Sandra, I love the photogenics so far (it has only been 2 days) but I like the color they give as well as the many power settings they have. I liked the alien bees, but got two photogenic lights for what one alien bee would have cost me.

Cari, welcome! Good luck with you jobs. Sounds like you'll get great exposure from the congressman job.

Liza, Congrats!!! That is so awesome!!!!

Dawn, I actually like the shoot thru umbrellas. I'm sure I'll like the reflectors better, but like Debby said, you work with what you have. I could have upgraded my set to include the reflectors, but it was another $100 and the reflectors aren't worth that. I think it will be nice to have both kinds of umbrellas and a softbox....someday! LOL


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1/27/2006 10:32:33 AM

 
Amber Bigelow
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ahhhh... I've had my coffee. I feel sooo much better! (late night at my in-laws :P )

Debby, Here is an example of my lights not working right. When I'd look at the lights I'd swear that they went off but they kept coming back dark. The room was pretty dark, just a little bit of light coming in from a back door window. It was weird. It was like the one was too far in front of the other and as I'd slowly move it back, eventually I'd get it back far enough that it would work.


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1/27/2006 10:44:39 AM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
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Okay, I tried another collage... I didn't get it quite how I wanted but I thought it was a neat concept... and then you could do one for each birthday...

I was trying to figure out how to get another image of the birthday cake or even a few smaller pics from the day in that open space between the name & the text.... I'll keep working on it!!!!


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1/27/2006 11:59:06 AM

 
Rebecca A. Steed
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  Cari, I've been a military journalist and photographer since I was 17, and my first assignment was in South Korea. I had to follow a 4-star general around on a few occasions and take pictures of him giving tours to several congressman. I did this a few times, and I was a private in the military! talk about opposite ends of the todem pole. I was so intimidated, but I had no choice to just do it. but here are a few things I have learned along the way since then.
1. Action shots are best. With your job, you may have to take several "grip and grins" people posing with him, shaking hands and looking dead at you. But most of the shots should be action - him holding babies and kissing their cheek, him giving speeches, waving at crowds, whathavyou.

2. You should talk over the terms with him, find out what he's looking for most and if possible, try to get pictures of the people he wants shots with ahead of time so you know what they look like. The congresspeople, about 5 at one time, were each accompanied by several assistants, so at first, I didn't know who was the congressman and who was assisting him! That first time, I ended up with some good shots of the general with an aid.
3. to get good journalistic shots, you will have to be aggressive as in standing in front of a crowd while everyone else is sitting but you, running in front of him while he is walking and talking to people to snap the shot you want. I recommend talking with him and discussing these, but chances are he won't have a problem and those are the shots he wants.

4. Just keep snapping away. Take as many pictures as you can at one time or one event. Most events I walk away with at least 150 images on my card. In cases where you can't set up your shots, tell people how to pose and you're looking for things that would make a good picture, you get maybe 1 out of 10 good pictures on average.
5. take as many different angles as possible - horizontal, verticle, subject leading to the left, leading to the right, etc.

That first general/congressman one I did, I was timid and tried to stay out of their way and snap here and there and I had a protocol officer chew me out. She said, "What the ____ are you doing? get in there and take some pictures!" so, I did.
Hope this helps, let me know if you have other questions on the subject.
Becky


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1/27/2006 1:40:32 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
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  Man...i am feeling stupid!
I need some photoshop help...maybe the wind blowing 50 outside blew my brain off with it, but I can't for the life of me remember how to "fade" the edges of a photograph. I don't want to vigenette it-not in a circle...I want to keep the rectangle shape and just "fade out" the edges....I have done this before, but I can't do it now..gues I need to create an action for it..lol
any help out there?


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1/27/2006 1:56:42 PM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
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okay, I had to step away and didn't realize my pic didn't come up... one more attempt.....


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1/27/2006 2:14:53 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
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  Brenda...that is a cute idea...what if you spelled out the one instead of using the letter?


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1/27/2006 2:18:06 PM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
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  I have that one started to try too Tonya! I started that one after I couldn't figure out how to get more images on this one.

i was concerned for getting to
"seven" and "eleven" etc... for spacing and getting all those pics... but then again, I have a few years for those! haha

I just thought it would be a cute idea for offering clients. I don't remember seeing that style here before, so if it was and I missed it... sorry!


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1/27/2006 2:21:07 PM

 
Pat Wimpee   Hey Liza- Just got back on the thread and saw you asked if I lived in a small town. I live in a small town, but they all run together and within 5 miles of my town is the third largest city in Utah. So it's not really like a typical small town. There's tons of photographers around here, so I would have thought I would have had more inquiries about renting out my studio. Guess people view it as too competitive.


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1/27/2006 2:33:32 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
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  Pat...I love the idea, I wish it could happen around here....it sure would help, but alas, I guess it is seen as helping the competition...:(


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1/27/2006 2:44:48 PM

 
Kerby Pfrangle
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Brenda I have three of my photoballs I thought would be really cool on CD or album covers. Kerby


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1/27/2006 2:45:32 PM

 
Kerby Pfrangle
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Have to post them I was not check totally in.


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1/27/2006 2:46:49 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
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  Cari,
Ok, for the Boss, I think Becky gave you great advise.
as far as the family, I will go through some work and get you some thought for the family and the MOm and daughter.
Please tell me though do they want posed studio or out doors or both?

when it comes to little girls and close ups, Play with some dramatic lighting. if you have a white piller, sit her close,white background. no back or fill light. sither with her face against the pillar, hand resting by her face on hte pillar. main light at the3:30 hour: by doing this low light youu are lighting up the back of thehair and side of face,leaving the shadows to run down the pillar, if you have a sofe focas, use it looks great!
may take playing with the light a little . crop it as a head and a bit of her shoulder shot.
I will get back to you.


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1/27/2006 2:59:34 PM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
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Hi Kerby!!! Your photoballs are so cool. and you're right, they would be an awesome cd cover as well as a screensaver!

I took Tonya's advice and finished up the collage with "one"... any thoughts? I'm still trying to figure it all out, but welcome any thoughts!


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1/27/2006 3:28:24 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
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  Brenda, I like that better, allot...but maybe try making the ONE bigger and fatter?


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1/27/2006 3:32:54 PM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
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  Thanks Tonya... here's a dumb question... can you go back and change a pic in PS that has been flattened? Otherwise, I'm guessing that I just try that again from scratch?

I'm actually working on a different one for my 13yr old... just playing around, I'll post it when I'm done.

Thanks for your help & input Tonya.


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1/27/2006 3:44:19 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
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  WOW those are great Kirby!!
did you ever try my BMXer.
they may not work- How about the shot" Common' cameron" of my son and his reptiel in my gallery?
would that make a good one? they are so neat.


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1/27/2006 4:04:52 PM

 
Amber Bigelow
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  Case #2
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here is the bottom of the case. The top part velco's in. You could potentially fit 5 or 6 lights, depending on your cords, OR you can fit backdrops & your camera in there. I really like it. I can stash quite a bit in there.
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Debby, sorry we got cut off! Who thought of 30 min phone cards anyway??? I can't keep a conversation under 30 min! LOL

Here are the pictures of my light bag that you were curious about.


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1/27/2006 4:14:39 PM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
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Okay.... after almost 90 minutes, I have this collage done... and it's really just for fun for my daughter to use as a screensaver in her room (which she is working on putting all her new pink bedding into!)

Any thoughts?


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1/27/2006 4:52:09 PM

 
Kerby Pfrangle
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  Brenda
Jackie should be pleased this is very nice. Love the colors and her pictures in the letters. Darling for childs room.

Kerby


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1/27/2006 5:10:25 PM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
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  Hey everyone.. I just thought I'd share this with you... My husband met this man online through their music & art, his name is Wolfgang Karl. We love his work and have several pieces in our office as well as a piece I commissioned him to do of Jim & Aaron. Anyway... through the year or so that he was working on my commission piece he and I sent several emails back & forth. Well, through those emails he asked if he could use some of my photos and turn them into art.

Well, here are a few links for what he came up with... it's pretty neat. I have a couple of them that he sent me that I am going to frame along with my original that was the inspiration for his art. He has a unique style but we love it!

http://www.artprintcollection.com/detailPage.php?printID=78210 (this was taken from one of my las vegas pictures)

http://www.artprintcollection.com/detailPage.php?printID=28182 (this one hangs above my desk)

http://www.artprintcollection.com/detailPage.php?printID=78183 (this was from my grand canyon shots)

Anyway... thought I'd share that with you.

Um... I'll also share a "don't do this" story with it... I was happy to have him ask to do this... and was trying to keep him happy to hurry up my commission that I paid hardly anything for... that I didn't ask for any compensation for him to use my images. I will say that on one of his sites (he has several) he does provide a link to my website for those that he copied from my photos. I guess that's something?


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1/27/2006 5:12:08 PM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
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  Thanks Kerby, she just came down to my desk and I showed it to her. She got all excited, it's been emailed to her so I'm sure it won't be long before it's on her screen. :)

How have things been with you Kerby?


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1/27/2006 5:16:26 PM

 
Kerby Pfrangle
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  Debby I looked through your gallery and the two I came up with that might work the best are yellow and red your tulip one and solar flowers.

I can not promise anything because I get about one in ten that comes out that I really like.

One with lots of color and textures seem to work good, interesting building with designs in them, bright colored floral that fill the frame these tend to work good.

Send me the two I mentioned and I try them.

People do not tend to work well it makes them look fat and distorts.

Two peoples galleries I really like for the balls would be Donna with all her interesting buildings and Stan with all his flowers. LOL...Kerby

I also got several balls made up when I made them I thought of CD or album covers and that is why I posted them.

I also have several keyboard balls that are awesome for like someone that would have a piano or organ CD or album.

Kerby


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1/27/2006 5:22:02 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
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  Brenda,
To my knowlege you cant re-do a flattened image...but there are ppl on here that know much more than I about PS....
the jackie one is wonderful! LOVE IT!


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1/27/2006 5:23:54 PM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
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  Tonya - I think you're looking for the feather option. It's under select. I'm sure once you see it it'll all come rushing back. :)

I have to make a recommendation. I just got a book from the library called The Photoshop CS2 Book for Digital Photographers by Scott Kelby(maybe this has been discusse before? I don't know... I haven't read all the threads). It covers SO much. I opened up a photograph of my family (six adults and a baby) and with the help of this book I: fixed the lighting, eliminated the roots in my hair, whitened our teeth, made us all look a bit thinner, removed acne, removed wrinkles (to a believeable degree), and took care of hot spots. And then using the knowledge I got from all that, I removed the glare from my mom's glasses. I LOVE this book. You should all go get it. :)

And this is only skimming the surface of the stuff it teaches you.


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1/27/2006 6:27:56 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
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  Wow, I come back home from a very long day and there's so much to read. You guys have been busy in here today.
I went to the thrift store to do some "prop shopping". found some great stuff.
I love those ball pictures. They would make awesome cd covers. Hey, my husband manages a store called Campbell River Musicians Trading Post. Music instruments, etc. I sell my cards in there, and they're going pretty fast. I have to make more tonight. I made a bunch with instruments from the store and they really sell.
Anyway, I'm playing now, gotta make more cards.


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1/27/2006 6:51:27 PM

 
Kerby Pfrangle
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Hi Dawn I got a few that look like instrument balls.


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1/27/2006 6:56:43 PM

 
Kerby Pfrangle
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  Dawn no. one and two are the same one I goofed up. I have another music keyboard one in my gallery that is different.

Kerby


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1/27/2006 7:11:14 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
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  Those look so good! I should try to do that with some of the cards I take in. I also want to sell prints in the store. It looks very creative.


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1/27/2006 7:13:35 PM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
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Okay I need your guys opinion on something. I have these four photos... obviously they are all the same plus some altering in photoshop. I want to know which you guys think looks best. This is my favorite photo of my nephew. Thanks!


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1/27/2006 7:44:57 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
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  Danielle,
Thanks! I was just about to pull my hair out when I remembered it...arg!

do ya'll think it is cool that we are always on top of the new questions?


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1/27/2006 7:45:24 PM

 
Kerby Pfrangle
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  Danielle I like the orginal and the one where you turned the eye's blue.

Kerby


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1/27/2006 7:52:17 PM

 
Christine Herr
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  Danielle, those pictures are gorgeous!! I like the first and second one.


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1/27/2006 8:10:32 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
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Danielle- I really like the original (in color) and the first b&w one (without the blue added).
Hey, can you guys tell me if you think this would be a nice picture on a card. (I thought for family)


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1/27/2006 8:12:23 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
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  Family
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This mama deer and her twins always came into the in laws yard. The whole family often travels through.
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oops! :)


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1/27/2006 8:14:44 PM

 
Christine Herr
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  Dawn - that's an excellent picture. I think it would make a great card.


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1/27/2006 8:19:15 PM

 
Kristy  L. Hargis  
 
 
Hi Everyone!
It has taken me a while to catch up!! You gals will keep a womens eyes busy LOL!! I have to tell everyone what wonderul pictures! Oh yeah Danielle those picture so cute!! I like the one in B & W with blue eyes.
Well guess what!! LOL!! I got my first sitting with a baby today she is 3 months old & her name is kaylee!! Here are some pictures! They are so wonderful!! Let me know what you guys think!!
Keep up the wonderful work everyone!
Kristy


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1/27/2006 10:04:56 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  kristi...
Great job! I really like the happy valentines one and the happy baby!
too cute!
they are all adorable...I would love to see that precious one dressed a little more "girly"though...but that is just me. I dolled my daughter up till she would not let me anymore...i still try and she is turing 12 in feb!!!
lol
be proud...those are great.


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1/27/2006 10:23:13 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
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  Kristy- Very cute! I love the valentines ones, and the first angel one is cute also.


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1/27/2006 10:39:34 PM

 

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  (entering room panting and breathing hard as if I've ran a race & it's only the BP THREAD!!) You all have been busy!! I only took off a few days!

I have a few comments and a few questions from the last two threads. So this might be lengthy.

#1 LAURA - Hope your knee is better and DALLAS is a better location. I don't want to travel that far, but it would be a greater possibility. Altho I'd love to have a KS one (big grin!)

#2 CHRISTY - your maternity shots great and where did you find the verse or wording? I have a maternity twin shot I'm struggling finding soemthing to place on it.

#3 BOPPY PILLOWS - I use one ANd I've found if I take two regular bed pillows and place them in a "V" shape with boppy on top it elevates the front of the boppy even more and gets those poses that DEBBY likes a bit easier!

#4 BABY SHOTS - I spent some time awhile back making a list of baby shots to take and I've misplaced it. After looking at some of these recent shots I'm curious if anyone keeps a list of "must have" newborn shots? If so - willing to share?

#5 - my LIGHTSPHERE came in and I love it. Still playing with it, but great results for $48!

Will continue this post so I don't get cut off.


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1/27/2006 11:17:49 PM

 

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  Part #2 : ))))

#6 DAWN- WHERE did you find your clothing for your Moments in Time shots? Im not a seamstress, so please don't say you made it all yourself!! HA

#7 LIZ - backdrops...I had a hard time cutting loose for backdrops so I gave a hand at making my own and had a great result. If you want the links to all the info I have and illustrations... email me!

#8 - ELEMENTS VS PS CS2 - Has anyone who made the leap from ELEMENTS to PS glad they spent that much money? I am currently using PSP X and finding many tuts, filters, etc are not always compatible as well as shared info on effects. Any input there?

#9 - I have some minolta lenses from my film SLR - where can I find info on what adapters (if even possible) I'd need for the EOS systems? I'm really clueless on this type of thing.

oh and Debby..... since I have the whole new camera and light setup....you get to baby step me and make sure I get it all RIGHT this time!! LOL!!! Get your coffee!!


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1/27/2006 11:31:27 PM

 
Cari F. Minnamon   WOW!! I go to a party take some pictures, come home and the thread has gone crazy!! Becky S. you are an absolute lifesaver. What great advice. The event next week will hopefully be the first of many and your advice will carry me through all of them!! I may even get to attend the Republican National Convention depending on how far my boss goes in the primary and the election!! He's going to keep me hoppin' that's for sure! I'm very honored to do this for him becuase he is the best boss and just a good man! I really hope he wins! If so I am hanging onto his coatails! I have one question. Did you use a telephoto for most of the events?? I have a 70-300mm. I am also using a stroboframe camera frame and omnibounce. All of this on my camera gets very heavy after awhile. Any suggestions on this. As far as getting right in there to get the picture, I'm short! We're talkin 4'10" here!! I've had to push my way through life so I'm used to it. Besides being short means you don't get noticed as much so I am able to squeeze through people to get the shot I want. Man I really really appreciate your advice. Debbie, the idea with the pillar and white backdrop is one of the things that I was doing with my Mom and Girl. We are doing both inside and out. I was also thinking of using the column thing for my Valentines day portraits as well. Thank you guys so much, your the best.. This whole thread is the best!! Iron sharpens Iron right!!


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1/28/2006 12:10:30 AM

 
Nancy C. Cassell   Danielle - I like the unaltered original the best. There is nothing as pretty as that new baby skin. I wish mine looked so healthy!

Kristy - Congratulations on your new client. I love the second one with her expression. They are all very cute.

-Nancy


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1/28/2006 12:11:37 AM

 
Justin G.
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  Hey guys I know I'm not a regular member of this thread so I feel rude in asking for some advice in this photo. Does her forehead look overprocessed? She had some spots I had to clone, heal, and patch up but my cousin (who gives some blunt, but helpful critiques) said he could tell PS was used. any thoughts. and you'll probably notice to the left of her hair is the black area I had to paint in. Do you have any advice on how to get a blacker background? I know basically the way to do it is to move farther from the BG but our room ("studio") lol is only like 12' deep so I can't really move back. any other ideas? i'm using just a black sheet, do you think paper would help? or a thick, jet-black muslin would do the trick at short distances? Thanks so much. Here's the image (also can be found in my gallery for technical aspects):



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1/28/2006 12:47:58 AM

 
Cari F. Minnamon   Justin,
Have you tried copying this layer and on the new layer using either smart blur or the guacasion blur tool and then go back in and erase all of the areas (Hair, Eyes, Lips, Shirt, etc.) that you want sharp. This will give her skin a porcelin look, smooth over the areas that look overprocessed and add an artistic touch. I love this picture its gorgeous.


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1/28/2006 1:00:41 AM

 
Justin G.
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  yeah actually that's what I did. I did a really high res. scan b/c I wanted some crazy sharp hair, lips, and eyes. welp got the sharpness I wanted. a little too sharp. also shooting B&W film I should've had her cake on the makeup as you need to with B&W film. anyways her oversharpend skin caused me to do the guassian blur but i'm questioning myself, did I do it enough? I think from your response maybe a tad more would help. I personally don't want a "porcelin" look on this particular one but I will probably soften down a little more on her skin. Cari, do you know of any other ways to process skin? i'm really not too good at PP yet. (well glamour PP that is)


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1/28/2006 2:11:35 AM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
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  Justin - I honestly can't tell that photoshop was used. Maybe it's the difference between seeing it high res on your comp and 72dpi here but... it looks good to me!


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1/28/2006 5:14:30 AM

 
Melissa Farnsworth
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  Good morning-

It is pouring rain here! Finally!!
Kristy- The baby pictures are really cute. They do look a little dark to me, I am not sure how you have your lights positioned. What kind of lights do you have? She looks like a sweetie.

Justin- I love this! I personally do not think it looks over done. I really like the dramatic feel of it. It is like her eyes are really saying something. Great Job!


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1/28/2006 5:18:19 AM

 
Rebecca A. Steed
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Justin, I too like the photo and can't really tell there was work done. I'm guessing that people who know her, depending on what you did, may notice, but not here! As far as black backgrounds go, my blackest background is a black fleece blanket, but EVERYTHING sticks to it, so I usually still have to clone out some lint, etc. I underexpose the photo about 1 to 2 stops. That way, the black is really black and my subject is usually in good light. here's an example of one I took today.


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1/28/2006 5:34:49 AM

 
Melissa Farnsworth
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  How cute Becky, he does look like a little rocker!!


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1/28/2006 5:40:44 AM

 
Rebecca A. Steed
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  Thanks Melissa. He takes after his daddy, who as we speak is setting up a stage for a show tonight for soldiers who returned from deployment.


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1/28/2006 5:43:04 AM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
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  Becky - hey I used to live in Europe too! Well... for eight months I lived in France. I miss it SO much. How long have you lived in Germany?

I was looking through your website portfolio and you have really great work! I especially love the picture of the woman with incredibly long hair racing her horse. Did you do that with panning? It's an awesome photo.


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1/28/2006 5:47:28 AM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2006
  Melissa - I was just looking at your website and I LOVE the photo of the little boy in the basket looking at the bear. It's ridiculously cute. If that were my kid... it'd be a 16x20 on my wall.

Apparently I'm going to pass my time this morning looking through everybody's galleries...


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1/28/2006 5:51:54 AM

 
Melissa Farnsworth
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/5/2005
  Thanks Danielle, that is my nephew and he cracked me up when he did that I almost didn't get the picture because I couldn't stop laughing. He is coming over tomorrow to do his 6 mo pictures, even though he is almost 7 mo now.


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1/28/2006 5:57:24 AM

 
Rebecca A. Steed
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/6/2005
  Thanks Danielle! That shot was a panning shot (1 out of 100 attempted - it's harder than I thought!) I took it at a Renaissance Faire here in a town called Angelbachtal. It was very authentic. I've lived in Germany for about 2 years, and we're here at least one more, possible many more years. I love it, but I really miss my family in Kansas City. We haven't seen them in 2 years, which is killing my parents since my son is growing so much. They're coming this spring and I am so excited!
I love France, but it is pretty expensive there. Where did you live there?


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1/28/2006 6:00:57 AM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2006
  I lived in La Rochelle on the west coast. In my opinion... one of the best places in France. :) If you've never been there, you should go. So why are you guys living in Germany? Your lucky that you have the chance to teach your son two native languages. I love bilingual kids! Maybe cause I always wanted to be one...


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1/28/2006 6:21:31 AM

 
Rebecca A. Steed
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/6/2005
  We're here with the Army. We met in Korea when we were both Soldiers, lived in the states for a while, and now we're in Europe. I love it! Ahh to live on a coast. I bet that is a beautiful place. I've been to the east coast of France, along the cote de azure. it was beautiful.


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1/28/2006 6:49:21 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  MORNING! MAN can y'all fill up a thread! LOL! TONS to catch up on as usual!

Justin, welcome back! I like the drama of the image you posted. To me, her forehead and cheek look a little blotchy. Possibly from the cloning & healing tool? I only see it because I've been there a MILLION times, it seems. It takes A LOT of practice to get a nice smooth look. If there are just a couple of spots, the spot healer will help, If there is a lot of ruddy, uneveness you want to get rid of, it takes a while and A LOT of patience. Use a large enough healing brush so that you aren't getting little spots, and use decrease the hardness of it. SWEEP it in small strokes, not dots, from various angles to get a nice blending of tones. You may already know all of that, but that's how I do it when there's a large area.


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1/28/2006 6:59:45 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
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Justin, I copied your low-res post and played a little. This is what I have come up with...


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1/28/2006 7:18:13 AM

 
Justin G.
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/13/2004
  Wow thanks Laura, i'm really liking that. did you just smoot out with gaussian blur or a little trick of your own? I don't know why I wasn't getting what I wanted but you did! lol. I just got my 16x20 darkroom paper in the mail yesterday and i'm printing today right after I get off work so i'm excited. we'll have to see how this comes out. ayways I agree that healing and cloning can be a paint. but the irony, is that I just found an article while posting about proper healing and cloning techniques. they were talking about healing only on the green channel and stuff like that, just little advanced techniques that help I guess. if you guuys want me to link the article I can no prob!


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1/28/2006 7:31:52 AM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  morning everyone!
my daughter has a b-ball game today, so I will be out for a while...no telling what I will have to catch up on when I get back later today!

Bridgette- here is a list I made myself for my recent newborn shoot...it is kind od shorthand for me, but it is hard to put on paper what the pose is. It is also catered to a girl a bit, I have not done a boy yet but will adjust accordingly. ...Hands cupping feet
Add flower
Hands cupping head
Cradle in hands
Cradle in arms
Laying on arm
Rear and feet
Stomach tuck
Just hands
Just feet
Face over shoulder
Cuddle in blanket
Cuddle w/ tulle
On side w/ flowers
Kisses all over
Baby parts hand, foot, head and shoulder, ear, face, belly, hiney
Use blocks
From God

hope this helps some

Justin....the picture is great and dramatic...I too see a tiny bit of blotchiness on the forehead, but you really have to look for it...but I think the tone is great! My eye is getting more trained to see more and more, but there is still so much I miss that other people catch. Hope we can give you what you are looking for.
Well, see you all later this evening.!
probably on a new thread...LOL


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1/28/2006 7:36:39 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
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  Were you finally able to get the results you were looking for for your print, then? I'd love for you to use what I did, but it certainly won't blow up very big. It's a REALLY low-res quality image. I can send it you you if you want the file, but it's just a copy of your copied post. If you did get better results from the article you read, plese post the image! I'd love to see the difference!

No blur or filters. I just used the healing brush. I constantly take new starting samples to get a more even blend. If I get blotchy areas, I use a larger brush, go over it once to smooth it out. I'd LOVE that link. I'm completely self taught after MUCH trial and error, so if there is a better way, I'm completely open to it!


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1/28/2006 7:38:27 AM

 
Justin G.
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  actually guys i'll have to be honest what I did. she had a big patch of hair that came down over her foredhead she didn't like so I tried to clone other parts of her forehead to remove it. that's what's with the sharp hairline and the blotchiness (from trying to smooth it out). the negative is actually very nice and I personally didn't mind the hair, just she wanted me to try and remove it. hmmm won't be doing that for a while :-) well maybe for practice.


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1/28/2006 7:42:09 AM

 
Denyse Clark
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/2/2002
  Becky- LOVE LOVE LOVE "the little rocker"! And I like to see work w/ natural light since I'm only working with that or a speedlite. If you don't mind terribly, I'd love to try that w/ my 10yr old nephew tomorrow. (um, if I can find a guitar....)


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1/28/2006 7:42:57 AM

 
Rebecca A. Steed
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/6/2005
 
 
 
Thanks denyse! I don't mind if you try this with your nephew. Imitation is the greatest form of flattery! We have music stuff everywhere, so I stuck with what's available so far. here's another one I took today with the music stuff.


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1/28/2006 8:10:01 AM

 
Christine Herr
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Good morning everyone!!

Justin - I LOVE that picture. to me, it does not look over processed.

Becky - your little rocker picture is priceless! Where abouts in Germany are you? My husband is from Germany, he's been here only about 6 years so all of his family is still there.
We're taking our whole family out there in May this year. His family is close to Dortmund. We've actually toyed with the idea of moving out there for a year or so. Would be a great experience for the kids.

Brigette - thank you so much for your compliment. I looked online everywhere for some kind of saying....a friend gave this one to em. Feel free to use it.


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1/28/2006 8:21:03 AM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Brigette- It was just stuff I found at the thrifty stores. I bought a couple pairs of suspenders there and all my hats and my sister had that little dress for my neices picture. I've been finding alot of props lately for various pictures. Yesterday I found the biggest baby blue satin sheet. (perfect for babies) and tons of fake flowers, and lots more.

Justin- Love that shot, it's gorgeous!! I couldn't tell that you fixed it like you said.

Becky- Love the rocker! What a cutie pie!!


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1/28/2006 9:08:55 AM

 
Melissa Farnsworth
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/5/2005
  I just got back from Garden Ridge again. I found one of those 20 qt metal stock pots for 6.99 and all kinds of different veggies to go with. I can't wait unitl my nephew comes tomorrow to try all the stuff I got.

Becky- I love that pic with the headphones. He is really getting into that. How old is your son? My daughter just turned 5 and we got her a guitar for xmas too. There is a picture of her with the guitar in my gallery.

Laura- How did your family/newborn session go yesterday? I can't wait to see!


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1/28/2006 9:45:32 AM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  well, all in all not to much missed for being gone several hours!!!
I love the little rocker photos as well...my family is musical so I have some guitars lauying around, gonna have to seal some for props, that is too cute! I love the bandanna-do rag-whatever they are calling them now- on the head!!!

Oh and YES YES YES Laura, I forgot you had a baby shoot...where are the proofs...huh huh huh??? (she says exitedly!)


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1/28/2006 1:26:51 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Here I was thinking that since I was gone out all day, there would be alot to read in here. Nope! Only 2, that's it? Everyone's slowing down, you can tell it's the weekend. lol
Did more prop shopping, got the cutest little bear outfit for a baby. And more fake flowers and plants.
I also splurged and bought myself a new shirt and jeans. That doesn't happen too often. :)
I have to get ready soon to go out for dinner tonight, but I'm so tired from taking the kids swimming.
So tired!!


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1/28/2006 5:33:21 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  OK, Melissa and Tonya (and whomever else wants to peek) The newborn session is up!! My website, Galleries, Proofs, Hynes. There are A LOT! Although, from what Tonya told me about her newborn session, she has me beat! Thanks for asking and looking!! I'll try to get caught up tomorrow! I've had a 2-day marathon between the 3 hr session, the set up, clean up and proofing! I need sleep! See you in the morning, coffee in hand! :)


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1/28/2006 9:44:00 PM

 
Cari F. Minnamon  
 
 
Good Evening Everyone!! I'm so glad this thread is moving kind of slow today. I don't feel like I missed out on much! I had a busy day buying props, trying to bleach a canvas drop cloth to use as a white background and failing miserably, and editing pics from yesterday. Here is a couple that I took at my best friends birthday party last night. It was sooo much fun, and I was able to hand out a couple of cards to some families with babies and babies on the way! Let me know what you think. I need all the constructive criticism that I can get. Also, I have a question for everyone. What forms other than a model release form, and Invoice/Reciept do all of you use. I am busy making up forms and need to know all of the forms I need to have so I am all legal.
Thanks,
Cari


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1/28/2006 9:44:26 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  Laura...very good job!
So proud of you for all the proofing, but I think it was worth it, I like the b/w better on most of them, the baby's skin looks better and not so "molted" or whatever that is that baby's skin does..lol
I absolutly love 47, 51, all their hands and the two family ones. Those are Great!
You nailed the black ones, they are so great, and I think baby did better with dad...the ones where the baby is over dad's shoulder are priceless!
I think you had a great shoot!


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1/28/2006 9:57:34 PM

 
Christine Herr
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Laura - your pictures are awesome! I love the ones with the baby over the dad's shoulder and the one's with his tongues sticking out. The family must be so happy with them!


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1/28/2006 10:27:08 PM

 
Amber Bigelow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/15/2004
  Laura, I LOVE your newborn shots! You did such an awesome job. My favorite is, I think, #33, where he (or she??) is in dad's arms looking up at him. SO CUTE! I'm sure yo posted earlier, but how old? What affect did you use on the semi-colored ones? It worked so well with the little girls dress.

Must be the day for prop shopping. Did some of that myself, until the kids called a halt to everything. Hope to get to play with my lights (and new props) tomorrow. Man, it's been TWO WHOLE DAYS since I had them out and I'm going through withdrawl! LOL

Cari - Never tried it, but I've heard that people do half and half with white paint to get their backdrops really white and it also makes them stiffer. I'll be trying it soon as I bought some muslin today.


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1/28/2006 10:45:16 PM

 
Kristy  L. Hargis   Hi all!
I am so sorry I haven't responded to my pictures after I posted them!! Thanks for all the comments!! Oh yeah & suzy, I am going to lightin the purple halo one up a bit! I remember someone asking what light I have. I just got them from ebay, when I should have went with the alienbee's anyone know which ones I should get for around 300.00 dollars. The one I got are yin tan 260. they are nice lights, I just think I had them a little high!
I was wondering dose anyone have a templet of where the lights need to placed & how far back & low with a new born. I think I had them a little high & I had to tweek the lighting on those new born pictures in PS. I really need some advice on lights & where they should be put. I had a photographer friend said they needed to be 11 foot away!! I thought that was a little far back! Any information would hellp!
Thanks again guys!
BTW!! Becky LOVE LOVE THE LITTLE ROCKER!! VERY CUTE!!


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1/29/2006 5:48:31 AM

 
Kerby Pfrangle
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I am debating if I should run this image in the contest or not and just was going to ask your honest opinions on it. I am not totally sure about it because of it being different.


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1/29/2006 5:49:30 AM

 
Denyse Clark
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Kerby- of course run it in the contest!! Different is good.


Ok guys, I did a photo shoot w/ my 10yr old nephew this morning... days like this make me think I should quit!

I usually do outdoor portraits, so this indoor stuff is new to me, and I WAS BORED of posing him after about 20 min. So then HE got bored and it was over. I don't know, here are a few. I definately need more posing practice. And I think going digital has made me sloppy. Hmm, have to work on that...


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1/29/2006 12:13:00 PM

 
Denyse Clark
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oops, wasnt logged in.

(is this thread moving soon? getting bulky, dial up takes a while to load...)


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1/29/2006 12:15:18 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  Kerby...I think you should enter it too....you never know what it is the judges look for...

Denyse, I think it is harder with boys. I have not done any except my young son, but I would like to photography my brother, he is a race car driver and I want to get him with his car, but I am contstantly thinking of poses. Girls are easier I think...all ages


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1/29/2006 12:20:54 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  I got asked today to do portraits for two brothers who are 21 and 18. Has to be inside my studio, outside is terrible right now. Bad weather.
Any suggestions??
The mom is going to come over for tea and consultation so we can work out what she wants for their portraits but I want to give her some options.


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1/29/2006 1:02:27 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Kerby, why not?! Can't hurt to enter! I agree, different IS good!

Can you offer me any tips on outdoor portraiture? I LOVE your portraits of your model!

Denyse, Great practice session! LOL! I know, when you really don't know what to do and your subject is only half willing to help, it's tough to last more than 5 minutes!

Becky... LOVE the Little Rocker!!!

Kristy, 11 ft!!! I'd have them in another room!!! I think that's a bit much, unless you have hotlights, then I'd suggest as far away as possible while still getting light on the baby. If they have to be too close, I'd try natural light before hotlights. With strobes, 4-6 ft away should be fine, I'd think! That's what mine are (closer to 4)! Debby, can you offer any assistance on this one??

Dawn, I wish I could help! I was supposed to do 3 teenage-22 yr old boys for the Holidays, but it never panned out. Maybe Debby can help you on this, too. Otherwise, try scouring the internet for ideas.

On my newborn shoot, he was about 6 weeks old. The "semi-colored" ones were done using a VP soft filter. I added an aged look to it, then decreased the opacity of that layer to reveal some of the original color.

Thanks for looking everyone!! If anyone has some suggestions or tips for future newborn sessions, I'm open to them!


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1/29/2006 3:49:07 PM

 
Lynell South
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/29/2006
 
 
 
Hi everyone,

I've been lurking for the last couple of days. Love what I see! You've all answered so many questions for me already. lol.

I've only had my studio up and running for a year. I've learned by trial and error.

Dawn, I had 2 men in there early 20's also a few months ago and was freaking out about how to pose them. Here is a couple of them that I did. The Mom loved they anyway.

Also, a little trick I've been doing with glasses just in case, I have them take a couple of pictures without their glasses on so I have perfect eyes to steal from if I need to.


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1/29/2006 4:30:17 PM

 
Lynell South
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Oops, I need to figure out how to show images. lol. I'm running out the door so will try again later.


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1/29/2006 4:39:10 PM

 
Sandi DeBondt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/12/2006
  Good evening everyone.

Kirby, I think you should enter the photo as well.

Laure, great photos.

Well I had my first paying shoot yesterday. I had a six-month old and two-year-old. The baby was absolutely great. The two year old was horrible. Then I had my neices' 2 two-year-olds and one four-year-old. WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH THESE 2-YEAR-OLDS???? None of them would cooperate during the shoots. I did not get one portrait that was good. I tell you what though, the baby was so much fun!!! Can I put in advertising that I will not take 2 & 3 years of age (LOL)? Can you tell I have no children? I will try to download them tomorrow. Well, I was just checking in and catching up on this thread. I'll talk to all tomorrow.


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1/29/2006 4:48:05 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
 
 
 
Lynell- Great poses, thanks! My biggest problem now is finding a better backdrop that's big enough. I do have a blue one.
I'm including a picture with the backdrop I'm talking about. Tell me what everyone thinks. Is it good enough, or should I try to get a black one?


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1/29/2006 5:08:43 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
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  Blue backdrop
Blue backdrop
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Lynell- Great poses, thanks! My biggest problem now is finding a better backdrop that's big enough. I do have a blue one.
I'm including a picture with the backdrop I'm talking about. Tell me what everyone thinks. Is it good enough, or should I try to get a black one?


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1/29/2006 5:15:45 PM

 
Kerby Pfrangle
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  Hi Laura,

First off look for the most beautiful locations you can find. Examples are parks, floral area's, beautiful backyards, aquariums, and if you have a botanical gardens near you that is the jackpot area.

Take note of what is around the shooting area. Any junk or unwanted items remove them.

Look at props closely. What kind of furniture do you want in your image? Does that pad on that chair fit with what you want in your image? These are just a few examples.

As photographers we have to take responsibility for what we do.

I do not care for naked baby or children shots. These shots make me extremely sad. These children have no say in what is post on the internet. I look at these kind of shots and ask myself the question (Why would someone do this).

As for young girls be extra careful of what they are wearing. I will not photograph in swimsuits, clothes that are really super tight or extremely short.

There is an innocence and beauty that comes with childhood and our youth and I think as photographers we have a responsibility to preserve and be the stewards over our images. Especially images we put up on the internet or use for promotional purposes.

If you are taking images of family or for a profit this does not apply.

But if you taking images for your personal portfolio pick out the most beautiful person (child or adult) you can find. (Mine just happened to be a child.)

Also look for personality. That can come through your images like a fright train.

Ask teacher friends for recommendations. Talk to the parents if it a child. Always offer time for prints (that is where you give free images to the parents or person you are shooting for their time). If you pick the person this is the correct thing to do for use of these images for promotion or for use on your website.

If it is a child always insist the parents be there. This protects you.

I am sure some people will disagree with some of what I think but that is ok.

Laura if you have any questions feel free to email me.

Kerby


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1/29/2006 5:53:54 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
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  Thank you for your input, Kerby! I do disagree about "naked baby shots" but I do agree that at a certain point, they have to stop. Newborns are just adorable! Moms and dads (mostly moms) want to preserve every wrinkle, roll and dimple. Tastefully done, I think these can be the most touching, expressive and natural images in the world. I don't think parents think of it as an "outsider" would. Parents just want the memory of their precious newborn/baby to cherish forever. Even if no one else sees them.

I am DYING to get outside for another shoot. I would love to do a family or child session outdoors again. I will most definitely take your recommendations into consideration. I want to go back to some of my clients and offer free sessions/prints in exchange for building up the natural light & location side of my portfolio. I find the more of one thing I do, the more bookings I get for that same thing! Thus all the maternity shoots I've done!

Thanks again for your time and advice!


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1/29/2006 6:19:43 PM

 
Kristy  L. Hargis   Hi laura! Thanks for the input on the lights! I really need help in that department! LOL!! WHat type of light do you have? I got these one I got off ebay & I am not happy with them after I used them in the newborn session! Hopefully it was just not being used to them, I was using the basic photo flood lights & little strobe. I was wondering what kind do you have (lights) I thought maybe the briket lights I seen some on ebay for about 400! Then thought I might sell all my others! Dont know what to do LOL!!
Thanks again
Kristy


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1/29/2006 6:29:08 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Laura- I agree with you 100% about the baby shots. It's just like the whole thing about taking pictures of bare feet. It's a look of innocense. And nothing is cuter or more precious then baby's skin, rolls, dimples, toes, etc.
They are so cherub like!!
If it bothers someone, I have to wonder what is going on in their minds.


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1/29/2006 6:29:18 PM

 
Kerby Pfrangle
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  Dawn there is a place for naked baby shots in a childs album.

I just do not feel the place is on the internet.

Kerby


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1/29/2006 6:50:47 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
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  That's fine that we all have a difference of opinion, I respect your honesty. I certainly don't expect everyone to agree with me. I respect the wishes of my clients. If they don't want those types of photos, we do plenty of others. If they do, but want them kept private, they aren't posted publicly. My job as a portrait photographer for families, parents-to-be, babies and children is to capture who they are and how they and their families want to remember their precious moments.


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1/29/2006 7:02:28 PM

 
Chris Van Antwerp
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/1/2005
 
 
 
LEt me first start by saying that I have spent the last two weeks trying to catch up on this thread. There is no way that I am going to be able to read it all. I just don't have that kind of time. My kids would disown me if I did.
I have enjoyed so much of the information that I have read here. I am really green when it comes to studio photography and have been reading this thread to get some usefull information without needing to run out to Borders and buy up their entire stock of studio lighting books.
I saw all of you talking about using the person's name to make a collage and this is my attempt at it. I am also trying my best to learn PS.
I will certainly have a bunch of questions to ask but I don't want to double the size of this thread with my post alone LOL.
The first thing I want to know is "How long do you give a client to decide what they want?" I feel I'm being taken advantage of because I didn't set a time limit.
I hope I posted this image correctly and it comes through
I will try to keep track of this post and I will hit y'all with a bunch more questions later.

Chris V.


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1/29/2006 7:06:10 PM

 
Chris Van Antwerp
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Here it is, I wasn't signed in.
Chris


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1/29/2006 7:11:22 PM

 
Kerby Pfrangle
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  Laura I guessing I am a little older than you and Dawn.

I do respect your opinion but I disagree with it.

In an album if this is what the parents want it fine. But that child has no say that the picture of them is being posted on the internet.

Plus you never know who is running around on the internet looking for pictures like these. That a scarey thought to me.

Kerby


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1/29/2006 7:23:35 PM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2006
  Sandi - welcome to the world of portrait photography! Those two year olds are a handful, aren't they? Sometimes they can be a blast but MOST of the time you have to work extra hard to get just the most basic of shots. They are a lot easier when they're alone, though. Normally you can keep their attention for a short period of time so cherish that and take as many photos as you can. :)

We have a woman who comes to the portrait studio I work at with two year old twins. They are SO cute and abnormally cooperative. But she expects the world of their portraits. And she expects them to sit there for an hour and a half while we take picture after picture after picture. Obviously she doesn't know her own children well enough to know that that never happens with a child that age.

Okay I'm rambling. But my point is... I sympathize. :)


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1/29/2006 7:24:13 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  WONDERFUL JOB CHRIS!!!! WELCOME to the runaway thread!!! LOL! It's almost impossible to keep up, just do your best and participate as much as you want! We have A BUNCH of new people joining in these days! We'll probably be moving on to #15 soon!!

I have to wonder whether anyone from BP has followed the thread and what they must think of all of us rambling on in here! LOL!

My answer to your question is "too long!" I haven't enforced a time limit either and I'm STILL waiting on 5 sessions to place an order from the past two months! I fortunately (&unfortunately) have done A LOT of maternity sessions, and by the time their proofs are up (even though I typically have a 48 hr turn around) and they and their families decide what they want, the baby is born and they have bigger things to worry about. I started collecting a $60 minimum purchase at the session for just that reason. If they don't order, I've made $60+tx free and clear of expenses. I am thinking of offering a free 8x10 if their order is placed within 2 weeks, though. Added incentive I guess(as if their $60 loss wouldn't be enough!)


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1/29/2006 7:27:56 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Kirby- I do respect your opinion and all but it doesn't matter what's in the picture when these weirdo's look for whatever, they could use those pics you took of that young girl with the curly hair just as well. She's a pretty girl and they don't look very childlike. The point is that there are some really creepy people out there who just look for pics of kids in general. (naked or not) And it's not like we in here are posting them all over the internet. But at the same time, photographers have websites to promote their business and these people have access to anything.
Does that makes sense?


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1/29/2006 7:32:33 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  I also wanted to add that so far, I have not seen one picture of a "naked" baby that showed any private parts or anything like that.


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1/29/2006 7:34:53 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
 
 
 
Like, Danielle, I can sympathize, Sandi! My daughter is 2 1/2... I consider any session (be it 2 minutes or 10) a success! The high-key images I recently posted of her were done in 5 minutes or less. She walked away, so I cleaned up. Now, I was on the phone with Debby at the time, so she can attest to the fact that my daughter actually cried and begged for more!!! She said "No Mommy! More Pictures!" I was SHOCKED! Seriously, don't expect their attention span to be very long. you may need to try bubbles or making voices and playing with a stuffed animal, or peek-a-boo. Whatever it takes. One thing that worked for me was rolling a small ball (actually an un-breakable Christmas Ornament) back and forth with the child (she was 18 mos). I got the following image from it...


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1/29/2006 7:35:22 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
 
 
 
Like, Danielle, I can sympathize, Sandi! My daughter is 2 1/2... I consider any session (be it 2 minutes or 10) a success! The high-key images I recently posted of her were done in 5 minutes or less. She walked away, so I cleaned up. Now, I was on the phone with Debby at the time, so she can attest to the fact that my daughter actually cried and begged for more!!! She said "No Mommy! More Pictures!" I was SHOCKED! Seriously, don't expect their attention span to be very long. you may need to try bubbles or making voices and playing with a stuffed animal, or peek-a-boo. Whatever it takes. One thing that worked for me was rolling a small ball (actually an un-breakable Christmas Ornament) back and forth with the child (she was 18 mos). I got the following images from it...


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1/29/2006 7:36:25 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  WELL GOOD EVENING GUYS!!!!
Laura, great job as always! We will I am sure talk about the rest of the shoot soon.sorry, I had to go last evening-and today I have not felt well,so I have spent my day in front of Overhaulin'.
Well,at 48, I have taught Photography in so many Studios and companies, and as I have suggested to Laura along with countless others over the years.
There is a huge call and place for these presious momories(Please note this is said with all due respect to my friend Kirby's opinion-I so value your work)
but , it is something that really is not "pretty Portrait work" after 2 years-and I do teach not to do it after two.
Now , MOM's that are Photographers,that of course does not include your own children.
but you should consider directing the parent of a child over 2 yrs. to take the shot them selves in the privicy of there own home or yard.
As professionals WE MUST have boundries, as to what we will shoot and what we will allow where children are concerned.
*I have had this request and expained that I do not shoot 2 yrs and up in Naked shots.
*I have had people bring sick kids and want me to literally tourcher them into Portraits and I have had to tell them that is enough and I think we should rescedule.
*And the worst I had a mother(and I use the word with distain)bring a sick 3 week old baby in to my studio and as I tried to get the pictures she demanded-she yelled and then slapped that child.
I WAS going to KILL her!!
What I had to do was : very nicely end the sitting and tell her how wonderful it was to have her baby there ,and I was SOO looking forward to seeing them again.
Nice so she didn't take things out on the baby any further and then called the Police and gave them all the info.
( by the way, snapped her doing it on film-catch what you can in those momnets)
So see YOU as studio/business Owners have to place the rules and the guide line of what is exceptable.
And just because a photographer would not like to see or take those types of shots-
only means they have set guide lines for them selves and their businesses.
I do hope this gives everyone some insight _ there is NO WAY to prepare you for what you may face.
Just some experiance to share,
Debby


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1/29/2006 7:48:24 PM

 
Lynell South
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/29/2006
  Sandi, I totally understand the 2 yr old thing. There have been a few times that I just gave them props to play with and hoped for the best with casual shots. lol.

I love the lettering with photos in it. I am going to have to learn to do that.

Laura I LOVE the pictures of your little girl in the white outfit with the white background. So cute! I have to practice doing that. I haven't used a backlight yet but one came with my kit.

I have a question. I am using 2 Britek ps300 strobes with a softbox and an umbrella. I received a little backlight with my kit but not sure what kind. It's different than what was supposed to be included. Anyway, What kind of lights do you use for the backlight? And it sounds like I need one on each side. I want to expand my light system a bit and was wondering what I should get that would work with what I already have.

Thanks for any info.

Lynell


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1/29/2006 7:49:57 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  * just a extra note,
Posing for naked baby should never be on the back or side fron facing camera.
It is truely only exceptable if it is on belly or in th eparents arms , or standing with bare butt to camera(as in the very cute ones that have been posted here on the preveios thread)

I had a photographer who did not listen to this training and he being male made it worse- too spread eagle pictures of a baby girl and it took me days and laying off that photographer to calm this father down!!!
jst me last thought.
New thread tommorrow-K


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1/29/2006 7:54:50 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  THANK YOU DEBBY!! Sorry to hear you still aren't well!!! I appreciate your insight and whole-heartedly agree. You have to draw a line for you and what you will do and/or put up with as a professional and business owner. You decide what you're willing to do and stick to your limits. I also agree that 2 is about the limit for me on naked babies, even that is a little old for me. I would never consider taking naked shots of my daughter, (except maybe a funny hairdo shot in the bathtub or something like that) but not for anyone but me and my family to see. I'm SO GLAD you called the police on that woman! HOW DARE SHE!

HI LYNN & THANK YOU!! I used two PS200s on the backdrop. I have two HS1000s as main and fill. I keep hearing that for true high-key you need the backdrop 2 stops higher than the subject. With Briteks and no meter, that means nothing to me, but I doubled my back light power and it worked! Before now... PS was my backlight! I used none on those shots above... just a lot of PS work on those whites and underexposing the picture to give me plenty of room to brighten it up without blowing out my subject.

Thanks again!


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1/29/2006 8:00:44 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Hi Debby- Was wondering where you were hiding. Hope you feel better!
I also agree that there is a limit.
And posing a baby the ways that you mentioned Debby is exactly what I meant. But then I've never seen it gone past that.
The mother you mentioned just makes me so angry! Some people! I'm glad you called the cops.


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1/29/2006 8:07:34 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  I want to tell you as sick as it makes you to hear. Just Imagine, posing this tiny bundle in a baby poser,
wipeing his little nose and eyes and he smiles for a couple shots and then starts to cry.
She is in his face yelling
SHUT UP,SHUT UP then slaps him.
It does make you sick -TO THIS DAY !
and you go through your professional life , for time to time remembering that little soul and hope and pray he was not left a lifetime in her care.
So when you might wonder why I seem so "Just SO" about some things - all these years lens you experiance and memories:good and bad.
That all say protect yourself and share your experiances ,so you protest others.
Thanks for your understanding and support Laura and Dawn


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1/29/2006 8:16:44 PM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2006
  Go Debby! I wonder if the police actually did anything. Do you know?

I'd just like to complain about the fact that at my portrait studio, our age limit for little girl with no shirts on (not even naked or diaper but just no shirts on) is NINE MONTHS. How dumb. I had a family come in and want to do a diaper shot with their daughter (who was two) and their new baby but I couldn't because she was too old. I just think nine months is pushing it a bit.


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1/29/2006 8:18:28 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  HEY DANIELLA,
I WILL GET TO EMAILING YOU TOMORROW.

AND IT'S WONDERFUL TO HAVE JUSTIN(GREAT PORTRAIT)
AND KIRBY AND SO MANY NEW PEOPLE JOINING-
NOW DON'T GET LOST ,LOL HERE IS THE NEW THREAD:

http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=22094


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1/29/2006 8:29:38 PM

 
Tonya R. Boles
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/7/2004
 
 
 
Hi all.. I'm not much on portrait work, but I take a few shots of my little cousin sometimes..I've posted one in the past when he was just a baby, now he's a year old..Thought I'd post a new one, just for fun..


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8/28/2006 8:24:08 AM

 
Tonya R. Boles
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/7/2004
 
 
 
At 1 year, after playing in the pool.


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8/28/2006 8:28:43 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  oh he is sooo cute!!
I love his hair too!


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8/28/2006 8:34:46 AM

 
Tonya R. Boles
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/7/2004
  Thanks Debby..


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8/28/2006 9:24:31 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  I hope you and yours are all doing well.
we have all been so busy here, the boys now both in high school- it seems Like a never ending stream of comings and goings,lol.
well I am off, trying to find time today to go shoot at the zoo.
hummmmm
have a great day


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8/28/2006 9:28:01 AM

 
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