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Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
 

STUDIO PHOTOGRAPHY PART #13



STUDIO PHOTOGRAPHY PART lucky #13 !


WELCOMES ALL MEMBERS WHO LOVE STUDIO PHOTOGRAPHY AND PORTRAITURE .
WE ENJOY WORKING TOGETHER AND HAVING FUN!!
WE WORK THROUGH STUDIO SET UP , INTO THE OPERATIONS OF DOING THE BUSINESS OF STUDIO PHOTOGRAPHY
This is now part #12 of the on going Thread on Studio Photography,OVER 6 months long.Don't be affraid to jump in and ask away, if we've answered it we can tell you where to find the answer, or get a answer for you.
From start to finish we discuss Buying equipment,Setting up your Studio(home or moblie) and the Business of..

Grab a cup of coffee(or...) and catch up and join us, here are the other links:
PART1:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=17534
PART 2:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=18585
PART3:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=19127
PART 4:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=19665
PART 5: http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=20008

PART #6:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/qnaDetail.asp?threadID=20255

PART #7:http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/qnaDetail.asp?threadID=20455

PART # 8:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/qnaDetail.asp?threadID=20773

PART #9
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/qnaDetail.asp?threadID=21098

PART #10:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/qnaDetail.asp?threadID=21439

PART#11:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=21744

PART#12:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/qnaDetail.asp?threadID=21855

IT IS GREAT WE HAVE SO MANY NEW PEOPLE JOINING IN AND ADDING SO MUCH FUN!!!!
We have started a STUDIO GROUP MAP
For those intrested in sharing where they are and if they would like to be involved in extra get together type meetings:
http://www.frappr.com/studiogroup




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1/23/2006 8:38:56 PM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  On behalf of the dial-up members, thank you Debby.

Such beautiful photos on the last thread. I'm really enjoying seeing different styles from everyone.


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1/23/2006 8:59:41 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Tonya- Gorgeous pictures!! Lighting and everything is just perfect! Beautiful job!

Michelle- Good luck with your shoot! I'm sure you'll do awesome! Sounds like you have some great ideas. Have fun!


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1/23/2006 9:03:25 PM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2006
  Tonya - your baby girl photos are GORGEOUS! I love them. :)

Erinn - Thanks for the advice. I've never tried bouncing the flash but I will give it some practice tomorrow. I have awhile before this shoot occurs (she just said the next time I'm in the area I can do it) but I'll be sure to post the photos. :) And actually all of the photos of my nephew in my gallery are done with natural light as well... and it's those photos that got me this job in the first place. I love natural light. I just don't know how readily available it will be in this woman's house.

It's a LOT easier doing natural light photos with my new camera though. With my old one if the baby moved a fraction of an inch the picture would be blurry. That took a lot of patience!

Thanks everyone!


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1/23/2006 9:04:11 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  Thanks for the new thread Debby, I need to be in bed snuggling with my hubby b-4 baby joins us, but this place is so addictive! I had to get my post in on the new thread so I don't get behind!!!

Gosh, thanks so much everyone! Does anyone else get a pit in their stomach..even posting pics here? I just get so nervous, I hope I did a good job...ya know. I am so thankful for the compliments! There are so many good photographers on here, a compliment from you all means so much!

Danielle, bouncing the flash helps soooo much. I started doing that a while back and you will be amazed! also, if you can diffuse it in any way it helps allot as well. Natural light is great, but is not always available...sadly :(

well...MUST-GO-TO-BED.....haha
see ya'll tomorrow!


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1/23/2006 9:12:08 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Okay .. . I really am trying to go to bed here LOL . .. but this addiction won't go away . ..

checking in . ..

Tonya I love the last one of the Rosey Toseys. . .


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1/23/2006 9:14:30 PM

 
Amber Bigelow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/15/2004
  ok, all I do is try and type a quick message and while I'm doing that you start a new thread! LOL

Yipee!! I have my first shoot scheduled for next week!!! It's my husbands coworker's kids. ages 2, 4 & 11. All girls. Any posing suggestions? She wants some indoors now and is going to schedule another shoot for outdoors when it gets warm enough. I was thinking of keeping it simple with jeans & white t-shirts. I'll be getting individuals too. I can't wait!

Tonya - great job on the newborn shoot! I love all of them.

Michele - You could find out what the dad is into (ie - sports, hunting, cars, etc) and go from there.


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1/23/2006 9:14:58 PM

 
Amber Bigelow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/15/2004
  i totally agree that this is so addicting. My husbands thinks I'm nuts. LOL I'm constantly running to check the thread for new posts.

Tonya, I know how you feel about posting, but everyone here is so supportive. I love it


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1/23/2006 9:20:48 PM

 
Rebecca A. Steed
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/6/2005
  I had 86 new messages in my inbox this morning. I just can't keep up!
Dawn - beautiful photos of those girls!! I bet their family was soooo happy with the results. Love roses are red and fairy girl.
Tonya - your baby photos are so precious!! my favorite is too sweet. It sure is!! you better enter that in the contest.
Danielle - Do you have a tripod? in stead of using your flash, get close to the window. Babies are great b/c they are so small, so you could set a table near a window, cover it with nice soft blankets (dark or white would probably be best) and shoot away. Or have the mom or dad hold him near a window. Any dark material can make a neat black backdrop. My first black backdrop was a 2X3 foot black guns and roses material flag my husband had in his practice room. We turned it around and I shot close. I also underexposed it one stop. I'd say play around with it and try different camera settings. Erinn had a great suggestion. Turn your ISO up, but I can't go higher than 400 on mine or it gets too grainy. Hope this helps and good luck! can't wait to see what you post.


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1/23/2006 10:55:46 PM

 
Melissa Farnsworth
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/5/2005
  Good morning. off to work. will post later.


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1/24/2006 5:03:10 AM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
  Tonya and Dawn, great images on last thread!


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1/24/2006 5:20:43 AM

 
Nicole E. Rappaport
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/4/2004
  good morning everyone! :) I am just checking in...

beautiful photos Tonya and Dawn!


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1/24/2006 5:24:22 AM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2006
  Becky - yes I have a tripod but using it with babies always frustrates me. I prefer to hold it and get down on my belly and be flexible with my camera instead of mounting it in one place. I almost always start with a tripod and then end up taking the camera off because I get frustrated. It's great for newborns who don't really move and landscapes, though. :) I will try turning up my ISO. I can go up to 1600 but I guess I shouldn't go above 400? Hopefully these people will have a BIG ol window like my parents have in their house and I can use that and all of this will be a non-issue. :)

All I know is that if I actually start getting more business from word of mouth then I hope that my pictures get as good as everybody on here takes. :)


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1/24/2006 5:30:45 AM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/29/2004
  Morning everyone!

Tonya those newborn pics were great! I especially liked the one with the rose bouquet & petals all around and the pink tulle (spelling?). Your friend must be very pleased. :)


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1/24/2006 5:39:44 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Good Morning you guys,
If anyone is near Ashland, Massachusetts
there is a ad on ebay-she doesn't know what she has! bought them in a estate sale of a old Photogra[her.
starting bid $9.99 for pick up only.
this is a great kit-all you need is a flashmastre AA power supply( it takes house current and distributes it to light heads.
here it is(paroblolic diffusion and all!!!)
http://cgi.ebay.com/3-Photographic-Lights-by-Photogenic-PICK-UP-ONLY_W0QQitemZ7584435340QQcategoryZ3860QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


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1/24/2006 6:32:29 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  HI ALL! Tonya, GREAT JOB!!!! Michelle, Good luck! Dawn & everyone else, great pics & posts!

Anyone interested in those workshops PLEASE go to the group's frappr map at STUDIO GROUP FRAPPR MAP and add yourself to the map. ONCE YOU'VE DONE THAT, below the map is a General Discussion area. Reply to the post for the session you are interested in attending. If there isn't one near enough to you and you would like to help start one, post a message with the location (ie. Houston, TX Seminar) so that anyone else near you can reply if they'd like to attend.

Does all of that make sense? Just adding yourself to the map doesn't sign you up for the seminars, you need to sign up in the General Discussion by location.

If you have questions on the map, contact me. If you have questions on the seminars, contact Liza Franco.


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1/24/2006 6:44:50 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  See why I say I AM SO JEALOUS of Lauras way of keeping everything together!!
thank you Laura for trying to tie up that TX workshop and all you do.
It is really wonderful to see people "light up" when they get these workshops in person. I have done them for years and ,it is one thing to get info. here, but when you see it done all the little details it MAKES SUCH a difference.
I have seen Photographers change the way they talk to a client and work a session right there during the workshop.
it will be so much FUN! to see you guys all go out afterwards and REALLY ATTACK your profession!
Thanks again Laura!
for keeping things on track .


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1/24/2006 6:55:43 AM

 
Melissa Farnsworth
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/5/2005
  Ok I was looking for the Houston, Tx one and couldn't find it. I would be interested.


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1/24/2006 7:28:33 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Laura, thank you so much for your help. Just so everyone knows, Debby and I each work hard at perfecting our workshops, but Laura is a special person who has put forth effort to really get our joint venture going and has been wonderful in helping us organize them. Thank goodness she knows what to do with the map. Every time I try to post something, I end up putting it on multiple times and ask Laura for help. I just want to let you know that we really appreciate you and thank you for giving us the extra help.


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1/24/2006 7:53:40 AM

 
Melissa Farnsworth
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/5/2005
  Yes thank you Laura! It is very nice of you to do all that!!! YOU ROCK!


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1/24/2006 7:56:04 AM

 
Betsy Labuschagne
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2005
  Hi Everyone!

Tonya and Dawn, your work is beautiful, congratulations!

I've changed everything I'm doing again today, for the hundredth time since I've started the studio, and am very happy with the results, just need to work on one thing still. Luckily my children are very co-operative lately, I just buy them toys for all their help. It's the only way I can get them to set foot in my studio!


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1/24/2006 8:41:06 AM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Thanks everyone for your nice comments.
The girls in the pictures are my neices. My sister was very happy with the pictures. We'll be doing more of the older neice (6yrs) next week as a fairy with plants and flowers and a darker background, so we'll see how that turns out. My younger neice is 15mths, she was harder to get cause she was a bit cranky so that's why we put her big sister in with her and it seemed to help.
Anyway, thanks again to you all, you are so helpful here, I love it!!
I don't suppose there are any people here from Canada are there?? I'm on Vancouver Island.


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1/24/2006 9:08:33 AM

 
Sandra 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/31/2002
  Good Morning,
Debby, Thanks for thread #13. WOW #13...
Laura, Thanks for all you do to keep us together.
Tonya, WOW!!! LOVE YOU PICTURES, GREAT JOB.
Liza & Debby can't wait to host or just attend a work shop. Anyone interested in Louisiana please let me know. I'll even go to Houston. I know these workshop would be lots of help (and tons of FUN)
Thanks to EVERYONE for sharing your ideas and your pictures.
Laura, How is your knee?


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1/24/2006 9:40:39 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  WOW ALL! I'm blushing here!

If you click at the top of the map on Group Forums, it will show you the entire General Discussion area where all the posts are. Just click the one you are interested in and reply so we can see who wants what and where.

Sorry, I didn't realize they had been pushed off the display by new posts!

HI, SANDRA!! My knee is hangning in there. It was doing great through two shoots last week, then over the weekend with rain and walking through the grocery store, it's not so good today. I HAVE to call today about PT! I put it off because "I'm fine" (or so I've been telling everyone... Queen of Denial!) Sandra, was it you who had several others who wanted to attend, or was that Tonya (he he, and you thought I was keeping it all together! Those college acting classes sure paid off!! LOL! :) )

Whoever is willing to come to Houston, please add yourself to the frappr group and reply to that Houston, TX Workshop post with how many will attend with you so we can get a tally! THANKS!!!


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1/24/2006 9:47:50 AM

 
Melissa Farnsworth
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/5/2005
  I am curious to how long the workshops last, and would they be on a weekend or during the week? And how much would it cost to attend?


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1/24/2006 12:02:37 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  hey Melissa,
the cost depends on how many sign up.
but we all really work hard to keep the whole weekend @ no more then $200.00 per person. Again though it does depend on if we have a full house or not-Liza has exact amounts.
and we have said we would stay as long as you guys want to stay-but maybe not to far past 10:00 or 11:00(I should REALLY be dragin by then,lol)
but with all the personal attention and playtime you all should be tired to and have gotten your moneys worth!
that brakes down to $100.00 or less a day.
I will bring lights, and we'll scrounge some props and hopefully we'll have some kids to play with .
we'll have handouts and info. for you.
You all get to see how easy it is to use lights,and set up a studio on site
and yes they are on weekends- unless someone wants different.
I hope this helps,


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1/24/2006 12:13:46 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  well, the thread seems slow today...haha
all this talk about the workshops...I would like to go to one, but texas is so big, even laura is 10 hrs from me. That is a big trip. I don't really know any aspiring photographers around here that would be interested if I hosted one.
:(


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1/24/2006 1:16:36 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  maybe someone would share a hotel room with you-Thats what Liza and I have to do.
I would love it you were there Tonya!
where are ya at anyway-maybe some would car pool as well- or if I drive out maybe I can pick you up if your on the CA side of TX.


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1/24/2006 1:31:15 PM

 
Cyndee Wanyonyi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/7/2005
  Ummm about the tripod thing...

My lights don't fire unless I am at the "exact" right spot. If I am anywhere but right next to the strobes, they don't go. What's wrong?


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1/24/2006 1:37:15 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Cyndee,
I know your using Briteks, but I don't remember witch ones- I had the 500 and HS1000 and ever had that problem- sometimes the PS200's would miss fire.
are you using sync cord or radio controllers?
try wiping off the sencer before you start-maybe it has some dust or something not allowing it to fully see the light.


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1/24/2006 1:41:50 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Hi everyone!
Just wondering if anyone knows of a site that I could go to to set up a website. I don't have a credit card so I don't know if they bill you or what.
Please help!


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1/24/2006 1:47:27 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Dawn,
try looking at Photoreflect.com this will allow you to set a free web store.
you can see mine at
www.tabbphotography.photoreflect.com

it is free, you upload , edit and store all on this one site.
they also have a option where you can have orders taken and sent straight to a lab, then your site sends you a check less 15% and lab fees( there are a lot of labs to choose from) and you set your own prices.
let me know if it helps,
Debby


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1/24/2006 1:54:22 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Wow Debby, you are fast! I'm going to check that out right now.
Thanks!


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1/24/2006 2:04:44 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Dawn mine is at:
http://www.photoreflect.com/scripts/prsm.dll?storefront?c=0EJ8


here is the site address:

http://www.photoreflect.com/scripts/prsm.dll?default?ts=0


sorry


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1/24/2006 2:05:16 PM

 
Cyndee Wanyonyi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/7/2005
  I don't have sync cords or radio controllers....are these something that I *need*? If so, can you give me some recommendations? I have no idea where to start...I'm wondering if they may have come with my lights (BTW, I have 1000). Any idea?
Cyndee ><>


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1/24/2006 2:20:24 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  It's a COMPUTER DAY!!lol,lol
I am stuck here today, so it's nice to be needed as well,lol,lol

Cyndee,
Yes difinatley they should have come with your kit! they are long cords that one end plugs into you camera and the other into the back of the Main Light.
got radio controllers not to long ago and LOVE them.
try looking at the Calumet Litelink they are cheaper and better then Pocket Wizards(in my opinion)
they work as both receiver and trasmitter with a flip of a switch.
you need :1 set as receiver-that goes on your main light.
1 set as transmitter on your camera.

here is a link:
http://www.calumetphoto.com/item/CE1560.html?ac.cat.CatTree.detail=y&type=PRDINDEX

They do show up on ebay now and then.
I forgot to look at what camera you use if it is a D70 you will need a :AS15 adaptor to take the sync cord, super cheap on ebay all the time.
I do hope this helps,
Debby


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1/24/2006 2:36:02 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
 
 
 
Well .. . there's no such thing as two good shoots in a row LOL . . . the appointment was at 9:30 and she was running behind and got there around 9:40 . .. anyway . . . he was crying when they got there but I was hoping it was because his head was covered from the wind. .. no such luck. . .So she fed him a little bit and we stripped him down . .. got a few good shots and he got mad again . .. so then . .. (and why me) the mom asked about the older sister coming for a few shots with this "special" outfit. . . I said well if you don't mind the backdrop I have up then it will be okay but otherwise it won't work very well . . . I wasn't really into surprises LOL but I knew she wouldnt' want a ton of them so we took a few which wasted a little bit of happy time but he wasn't that happy most of the time . .. so anyway . ..she fed him some more and he fell asleep so we took some while he was asleep which wasn't much because the lights woke him up . .. but then we did get a few minutes of happy time, unfortunately my composition just wasnt' there today and I'm not that crazy about them . . . she was okay with what we got though so hopefully it all works out . . . maybe I'm an idiot but that boppy pillow just didnt' work . . .he kept slouching no matter how I tried it . .. and it didnt' go up high enough on his back to keep him "upright" . .. so that was a flop . .. needless to say I'm less than impressed with the shoot today . .. and didnt' get near my "goal" of proofs for her. .. here are a couple. ..


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1/24/2006 2:56:31 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
 
 
 
Okay ... trying again as always


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1/24/2006 3:02:48 PM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2006
  Well I dont really know if i'm allowed to do this or if it's against the site but...

I'm actually a web designer. Or I try to be. So if any of you don't really like template sites (I personally don't) and are looking for another option... I can help you out. And I'm pretty cheap in that my policy for friends is usually "whatever you can afford... I don't care." So if you want to go that route then I'm game. :)


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1/24/2006 3:04:48 PM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2006
  Michelle - I love the first photo with the bear. Very cute. :)

I see what you mean about the boppy. At the portrait studio I work at we just got new posing instructions (it's a department store) that involves a boppy and I had the same problem today with a 6 day old. I don't know how old your baby is... he looks a bit older than that. But for ones that are little like that... I'd say that instead of the boppy just put a blanket under the blanket he's lying on and make it all in a ball so hes just propped up a little bit but not too much. Does that make any sense at all?

I think they're cute though. I'm sure the mom loves them. I think we just tend to expect perfection from ourselves. :)


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1/24/2006 3:10:07 PM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2006
  Wow I'm writing three in a row!

I need some more advice. My mum has a friend who is actually already married but never got a chance to have a ceremony. So she's having one in February and she wasn't planning on having a photographer so my mum offered my services (free). So I know I shouldn't be TOO worried because anything is better than nothing but I could really use some advice on this one. I can do the outdoor shots with the wedding party and all that (I've been in enough weddings for that) but I don't really know what to do DURING the event. Is it appropriate to use flash? Any ideas? Thanks!!!


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1/24/2006 3:41:53 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Great photos, Michelle!

Just a quick hit and run post from me.

Would it be easier for everyone in TX, KS, LA etc if we moved the workshops from Houston to Dallas??? Would that make it easier to get a bigger group together faster AND it would bring more of us together!! Let us know!


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1/24/2006 3:44:43 PM

 
Melissa Farnsworth
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/5/2005
  Michelle-sometimes I don't think you give yourself enought credit! I love the pictures and your gallery is wonderful!!! But I know what it is like to want everything perfect!

I acutally live right out of Dallas like 5 minutes so that would be awesome. Too bad my house is not big enought to actually have the workshop!


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1/24/2006 3:54:37 PM

 
Cyndee Wanyonyi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/7/2005
  Thanks, Debbie. Well, I suppose this may be why my lights haven't been working so well...it's so hard to know what goes where when those lights don't come with an instruction manual :D.
Cyndee ><>


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1/24/2006 3:59:58 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
 
 
 
Okay ... here are a few more . ..


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1/24/2006 5:25:23 PM

 
Kristy  L. Hargis  
 
 
HI everyone!!
I have been meaning to post for sometime now!! Now I finally get the chance! I dont know if you guys remember me talking about restoring a photo (30yr old one)? But I think I got it figured out!! Let me know what yall think!!

In other words of good news I have almost got the guest house converted to my studio!! I am so excited!! I got so many wanting pictures done & now I am almost ready to make those appointments LOL!! Thanks again to all the wonderful photographers that have taught me some new stuff!! I am just so excited about this! LOL!!
Kristy


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1/24/2006 5:37:54 PM

 
Kristy  L. Hargis  
 
 
Would help if I signed in!! LOL!!


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1/24/2006 5:39:01 PM

 
Kristy  L. Hargis  
 
 
Would help if I signed in!! LOL!!


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1/24/2006 5:39:02 PM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2006
  I think you did great Kristy! Baby Chad is 30 now? Well I hope he enjoys his newly restored photo. :)


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1/24/2006 5:55:40 PM

 
Kristy  L. Hargis  
 
 
HI! Danielle, Yep he is now 32 or so! I did it for his mom cause he has a new son & they look alot alike!! She wanted it restored! I told her I would do what I could LOL!!
Thanks for the nice words!!
Here is one of his son! He is the spitting image of him!! LOL!!
Kristy


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1/24/2006 5:59:43 PM

 
Kristy  L. Hargis  
 
 
I had to sign in again!! LOL!!


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1/24/2006 6:00:44 PM

 
Liz Hincka   Michelle,I really like 018, great job. and Cyndee, did you figure out your light problem? I have the Britek too, but new to the whole thing so not much help on trouble shooting.


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1/24/2006 6:43:02 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Oh my goodness!!! Michelle, those pics are gorgeous!! As a mother, I would love a portrait like that of my child. Beautiful job! You could never even tell that he was having such a bad day.
I think all artists are critical of their own work. I'm bad for that myself. I always think that it could be better, or I don't really like it, but you know what? Everyone tells me that they are great, etc. and the client is usually totally happy with the outcome. I think you did an excellent job with these shots.
And as for your story about the cranky baby boy.....it allows others to see that it doesn't just happen to them. These are situations that really do happen "alot" and if you can get even 1 picture that turns out, you've done a great job.


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1/24/2006 6:45:14 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
 
 
 
Hey everyone! This thing surely picked up after I said it was moving slow!

Debby, I think it would be a blast to do the workshop and meet everyone! I can't believe you are going to drive...whooo...that is a commitment! I am on the CA side of texas acctually...I signed up on the frapper...small west texas town, you would probably come close at least...however...
yes Laura, at least to me it would be easier at Dallas, it is only a 5-6 hr drive opposed to 10 to Houston, and more centrally located, could we do that? I would have to REALLY try to go if it were in Dallas.

Michelle....I really think you did fine, but I know how it can feel. I love 16,18 and 21, they are all great shots, the others are fine as well, but I see your issue with the boppy. I have a boppy and I really like it for pics, but you have to use it just right and re-pose allot. When my son was little bitty, I took pics of him in it and placing a cotton blanket over the opening helped allot, it would 'catch' and kind of make a holder for baby, I see you have something covering it though. THe other thing is in the pic where you have him on his tummy, pull him up onto the boppy more, where his arms are fully on top of it, and he is just almost hanging over...
With the wee little ones, I just wrap them in a blanket and use the boppy to prop, in my pics I took yesterday, the ones in the pink blanket were with the boppy...I will post again....
it is just trial and error, but a good prop if you can hold your tounge just right...lol


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1/24/2006 7:05:30 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
  I have never photographed a baby before; Perhaps this may sound like a silly question but when you are photographing a baby are you placing them on top of a table and then climbing onto something to shoot or setting them on the floor on top of a bean bag, etc.?

Suzy


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1/24/2006 7:44:07 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Actually I didnt' use the boppy .. . what is in the picture is my satin pillow in a basket and he's propped up over the edge. . . the other day the little girl it worked fine .. . today nothing seemed to work :-(


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1/24/2006 7:52:46 PM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
  Michelle,

Your photos are wonderful! I love the first one with teddy. This is definately a case of being too critical of yourself. the mother will LOVE them! now quit your whining! lol they are super!
Erinn


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1/24/2006 8:02:46 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Michelle, can I ask how much you are charging for these portraits and the sitting fee? Just trying to get a rough idea of what people are charging.


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1/24/2006 8:06:40 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  oh michelle, that looked like it just might have been covered with satin...my mistake. I do agree that you are being to hard on yourself, the photos are great. Not every shoot is going to be easy, but remember Ansel Adams even said "12 great pictures in a year is a good crop", you have to snap snap snap, they are not all going to be the masterpiece, and if the cliet is happy, that is what you wanted!

Suzy, I do both with babies. This shoot, I did some on the floor and some on a table just lower than my waist length, I use a card table right now, but hope to get a posing table that is adjustable someday. It just depends on the angle you are going for and the baby as well.


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1/24/2006 8:12:45 PM

 
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Hi all! looks like a busy day!! :)

I love all the baby photos!

well, I had my first maternity shoot this evening! I was sooo nervous!! Anyway, I've posted a few of them...please let me know what you think!!


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1/24/2006 8:13:41 PM

 
Kristy  L. Hargis   I have to tell you guys!!
All of those infants portraits are simply priceless!! I cant wait to do my first baby pictures!! I bet it is exciting! I know my kids get so tired of the Camera LOL!!
BTW!
Michelle dont be so hard on yourself! you did an awesome JOB!! You are very talented!!
You know I would like to know what everyone is charging!
Kristy


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1/24/2006 8:18:39 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Christine- They turned out beautifully. I especially love the one with the saying on it. I love the way her belly button sticks out. :)


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1/24/2006 8:20:37 PM

 
Sandra 
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  Christine,
GREAT JOB, Love the belly shoot.
Michelle,
You have some BEAUITFUL baby pictures.


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1/24/2006 8:31:21 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Thank you everyone for your compliments. .. the images themselves I do like. . .I just had so many "ideas" and they just didn't pan out since he wasn't very happy .. . and the lighting didn't seem to work quite the same and the skin tones of course are different so sometimes that makes a difference. .. I know the mom will like them, but I just really wanted to get some close ups and didn't seem to accomplish that much. She also didn't bring clothes that really worked with what I had planned so that's something I need to make sure I plan for . . . all my other moms' it's just always worked out. .. I have soem definite ideas for my sitting in February so I will definitely call her so she knows what to plan for. ..

Pricing . . . for the Baby's First Year plan it is $100 to start. . . I get the "sitting fees" up front for all 4 sessions, that way if they try to get out of a session it's already paid for . .. then they get to choose one image from each sitting to go on the "panel". . which hasn't been 100% determined yet how I am going to do that. .. I have 6 months to decide as that is when the first baby I've done turns 1 year LOL . . . but they know they get something with 4 images on it and that is included in the $100 as well . . .

For just a basic sitting fee it is $35.00. . . and then I add $10 more for each additional grouping . .. groups of 6 and larger it's $50.00 . . I actually just redid some of this so it might be a bit different but it's around this . .. I dont' have my brochure in front of me. .. for Senior pictures the Standard session is $35 for 2 hours which includes up to 2 outfits and 1 additional location(besides the studio) the Deluxe session is $50.00 for up to 4 hours, 3 outfits and 2 locations. .. additional outfits/locations $10.00 each.

I have 4 packages ranging from $45.00 up to $125.00. If they don't want to buy a package they can go Ala Carte. ..and I also have a separate price if they purchase a package. .. eventually I think I will get away from the packages and just go ala Carte exclusively. ..

my ala carte pricing is:
8x10 $25.00
5x7 $17.00
4x5 $10.00
20 Wallet $35.00
32 Wallets $45
*8x12 $40.00
*10x13 $65.00
*11x14 $75.00
*16x20 $145.00
*these are mounted on matboard.

All of my collage work is not priced in the brochure and I price them as I do them. I typically price an 8x12 at $55.00 and my 16x20 between $150-$175.00. 11x14 I have been selling for around $70 but that will have to go up since my regular 11x14 is now $75.00 and I also mount the large collages. The 16x20 look AWESOME!!

I am in a small town of 1500 people with two awesome photographers 45 minutes from me. . . (there are more but these two are the main ones people use). I am working out of our church parsonage right now but hoping to solve my temporary solution soon with my own building of some kind . . . I have not advertised other than word of mouth and a few booth set ups which had a small piece of advertising with it . .. I have had 5 inquiries for wedding in the past 3-4 months so I am considering trying this . .. but I really need to find someone to shadow for a couple first. .. and if I do weddings, I will most likely only do them during January-May. Once I see how much Senior business I do in the summer I might would expand to June and July but that's a long ways off. .. My favorite photos are seniors, children(by themselves), and babies(when they are happy). I really don't like doing groups/family photos but some are definitely better than others. . .

so that's me in a nutshell . .. . not that you asked for all that extra info . . . oh and I've only been really pursuing this since last June!

okay ..I think I really need to go to bed now . . . my dogs "played" with a skunk tonight and now the house smells because it must have sprayed them and they sleep in the garage. . . and so I have a huge headache!


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1/24/2006 8:39:58 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Michelle,
use tomato juice on the dogs. You probably already know that though.


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1/24/2006 8:50:56 PM

 
Pat Wimpee  
 
 
Hi, everyone. Here's a question for you. How could I have posed this boy better to minimize his ears? When I posed him with his brother, I had him lean in to his brother's head, which helped on one side, but the mom wanted a picture by himself also. She hasn't seen them yet.... any suggestions? Thanks


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1/24/2006 9:11:33 PM

 
Christine Herr
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Thank you for the compliments! I'm glad the first one is over. Now I want to do another one!! I think I'll be a lot more relaxed and won't forget to do certain poses that I forgot this time around.

Michelle - I've been doing a lot of research on portrait prices and have found prices to be much higher than what you've mentioned. A maternity session alone, just the session fee, would average $200. Newborn's around the same maybe a bit more. I'm finding it hard to come up with pricing. I did a shoot in a playground with two children. I charged $250 for the session, gave 20 4x6 prints and all the pics I put into a slideshow on a cd in VCD format so that prints could not be made from the CD. I touched up all the pictures, changed some to b&w for no extra cost.
This is a tough one.


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1/24/2006 9:11:34 PM

 
Pat Wimpee  
 
 
sorry, try again


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1/24/2006 9:13:07 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  Christine, GREAT maternity shots! You did a wonderful job, esp for the first one!

Michelle's prices are pretty god for starters, there are photographers out there who are much much much higher, but I think, and most seem to agree, that you have to earn those fees. You should not underprice or undervalue yourself, but you want to be available for experience as well. I am working on pricing right now and what I am coming up with is very similar to Michelle's. I live in a small town as well, but we have some studios in surrounding towns and I want to be able to compete with their pricing to keep people local. I even know of some big time photographers who charge PLENTY, but still offer some kind of special or deal in an affordable every day range to keep business flowing.
I would suggest figuring out what your time is worth to you and start there. That has been my starting place and it is working so far. If you price to low, you will know right off the bat and you can adjust accordingly.


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1/24/2006 9:26:09 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  I have been meaning to ask and keep forgetting....photoshop and raw users....
what does it mean if I adjust my raw photo in ps....exposure comp +1.00??

I know I am adjusting for exposure, but what EXACTLY? Like for the +1.00 did I underexpose 1 stop?


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1/24/2006 9:34:19 PM

 
Pat Wimpee   Michelle, cute pictures of your baby shoot. This may sound dumb but whats a boppy?


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1/24/2006 9:34:36 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Just thought since I'm here, I would answer the last question.
A boppy is one of those pillows women use for breastfeeding or sitting baby up. But they are so handy for posing babies.


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1/24/2006 9:39:13 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  okay .. t here seems to be technical difficulty in posting .. .


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1/25/2006 5:24:40 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Okay .. . I wrote too much so it rejected me . . . he's the first part:
My prices are probably a bit on the low side if you are comparing them to those that live in the cities. . . but I do have a price list from one of the photographers that is popular around here and my print prices are comparable. . . most photographers here do not offer packages though. . . and I'm going off of his Senior picture price list. I've never seen what these people charge for sitting fees though so I may be way off on that. . . but if I want business I feel that is one area I have to be reasonable in . .. the other photographer also does a baby's first year program and at one time she charged $75 for it. .. mine is $100 but I'm sure she's raised that by now . . .

coming up with pricing was one of the hardest things. . . I haven't heard directly anyone say I was too high. . . a friend of mine said she heard someone comment that but I think they were thinking I should be like major cheap since I was just starting and I don't believe in that because I think it affects how people perceive your work. . . so anyway . . . I finally just sat down and figured what I wanted to make off of a shoot and tried to price accordingly. The Collages are where I make my money because I do make sure I make those worth my time. .. and one mom has bought every special effect thing I have ever made. .. so you learn your clientele and work accordingly. ..

The maternity sessions are a fairly new concept here and maybe around the country as well . . . so anytime something "new" comes up I think the prices are higher for those services. . .

I did restructure my packages a little and raised the price and so it didn't really look like I just raised the prices. .. they get a few more wallets for that price increase. .. I kept my print prices the same though . .. and next year will evaluate raising them and eliminating my packages. I've heard some people say that they don't do packages because they don't alot of pictures they don't need(the walmart/sears syndrome of getting 108 prints for $9.98) so I tried to put quantities that they will need in my packages. .. and for me I think I do sell more by going with the packages but people think Package=deal. .. which it is a better price, but I'm not sure they would order those same quantities just Ala Carte. . . I think it all works out . .. but again if I have to raise my prices I want to do it in a way that doesn't look so obvious and by just eliminating my packages I could do that a little plus increase the Ala Carte a bit too. . .

Honestly all of this stuff is just the psychology of marketing . . .I could raise prices and then offer a special each month . . . the options are really quite numerous. . . and by offering specials you are only locked into that for that time period and if it doesn't get alot of reception from clients then just don't offer that again . . .

On two of my packages they only can pick one pose for the whole package and on the two larger ones they can choose two different poses. . . so that does keep them from packing 8 or 10 different images into one package. .. some places I see wallets priced really cheap because that's what so many order alot of, but I priced mine higher because I didnt' want them just ordering wallets and I think I would have some do that . .. the senior girls I have done have usually ordered 4-6 different wallet sets usually the 20 pack.


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1/25/2006 5:26:38 AM

 
Michelle Ross
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  the rest of the story(aka rambling)

One other thing to think about when setting your prices is . . . if you set them higher .. . you can always have "specials" and make your customers feel like they are getting a deal . . . but if you start low then that's where you are at and you don't have room for adjustments. .. There's a guy about 3 hours from here who does those Tot's Days(I think I put his website in another thread) . .. anyway . .. he does these Tot's Days like every two weeks. . . just from what I read they get one pose for a certain package price which they have to choose the day they have the photos taken . . . then they have like 2 weeks to order more at a different price(higher than the Tot's day but less than his studio prices) and then after that any reorders are his regular studio prices. .. I have on the bottom of my order forms that they have 3 months to reorder additional images at the same price . . . after that orders are subject to current brochure prices. . . which may or may not be higher. . . there are just so many ways you can be clever with this kind of stuff. . . the one lady around here I've heard is extremely unflexible . .. which is why she makes the money she does I'm sure. .. I've had several say things like "you mean I can do that" when I ask them if they want something different, etc. . . so you don't want to be a pushover but at the same time a very small gesture will go along way with alot of people. . . Again it's knowing your clientele. .. and once you start having repeat customers you will learn what they like and stuff and can maximize your potential. . .

Some customers you can give them 10 proofs or 50 and they will order the same . . . others you give them 50 and they want something of everything . .. it's all a guessing game at first!

Okay I've really just kind of rambled at this point . . . so hopefully it makes some kind of sense to someone out there :-)


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1/25/2006 5:27:38 AM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
  Pat, thank you for the response on the boppy as I myself did not know what it was. Where can you buy one? About the photo and the boy with the ears, I have used Adobe Photoshop cs to adjust peoples unatractive sides.

Open the photo that you want to retouch.
Get the Lasso tool, and draw a loose selection around your subject's ears. Make sure you don't make this selection too close or precise-you need to capture some of the surrounding areas.

To soften the edges of your selection, go under the Select menu, choose Feather. When the feather selection dialog appears, for Feather Radius, enter 10 pixels (high resolution imaes 22 pixels0 and then click OK.

Press Control T to bring up the Free Transform bounding box. Hold Shift Alt Control then grab the upper right corner point of the bounding box and drag inward. Just play around until you get the effect you want. Hope this works. I got this tutorial out of a book I purchased called The Photoshop CS book for digitial photographers / Scott Kelby.

Michelle, I love your baby images. I am the most critical person when it comes to my own work. I am always looking for perfection and 9 out of 10 and I am NEVER perfect. :) But you are doing beautiful images.

Suzy


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1/25/2006 5:39:09 AM

 
Michelle Ross
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  Thanks a bunch for the compliment Suzy and yes I want perfection also . ..


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1/25/2006 5:44:18 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Morning, All! Great pics everyone!!! Christine, grat job on the maternity shoot!!

Tonya et al... we can definitely move the workshop to Dallas if it's easier. It was just going to be here because it's where I am and we didn't have all of you out there at the time! I WILL need some assistance with finding a location without it costing a lot! If it's expensive, the cost to everyone goes up. Melissa F, you live up near there? Is there a location near you? (community clubhouse, church, VFW, anything that would be useable?) Otherwise, we can see if watever hotel Debby and Liza pick has a meeting room they can "throw in" with their stay! Let's get a definite number of attendees, then pick a date and place. Dallas anyone?


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1/25/2006 6:01:40 AM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
  Michelle, have you ever tried using some EXTRA touch ups to those baby pictures? Using either Adobe or Corel? There are some tricks that would make those photos look even more expectaculiar than they already are. You have some great beautiful babies and the poses are beautiful. Sometimes you can enhance the photos and come up with master pieces. Bring some life to the eyes, eye lashes, extra light to the cheeks, etc.

Suzy


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1/25/2006 6:03:33 AM

 
Michelle Ross
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  Hi Suzy .. I have PS Elements 4.0 and I usually do very minimal things to the images because I want them to look as natural as I can . .. when you start adding lots of fancy filters and stuff then people get the wrong idea I think . ..although I do love some of the wonder enhancements I see people do . .. It's just that I don't want to do alot of extra stuff for free and most will end up picking the basic ones anyway . .. I do have a couple of clients that would order the moon if I sold it LOL . . . and those I would consider doing special stuff for but on the whole most do not . .. Elements does not support alot of the actions and I don't have the $$$ to invest in alot of the filters and stuff that I can put with it . ..

But curiousity does get me on this . .. and what suggestions did you have in mind for the images?


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1/25/2006 6:22:58 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
 
 
 
Pat,
I like his little portrait, this is what my youngest brother looked like -A string of a kid, with big ears.
then he shot up and landed on 6'5" and I have NO clue what the kid wieghts.
I do know that, you Don't look at his ears when he is standing in front of you anymore,lol,lol.
Any way, a more low light dramatic profile will do just fine- watch and take a few shots,not a cut and dry profile-a 45 degree profile, then one with a head tilt toward the backdrop a bit-nothing to sharp.
light in his face, not to th eside facing the camera as much.
I do hope you can get what I am trying to say here,lol,lol
Just started my fuel,lol,lol


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1/25/2006 6:49:59 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
 
 
 
Any of you looking for Photogenics,WOW!!!
this is a great 2 light kit,all you need is a backlight and let me know on that.
this has everything rolling bases and 2 600 lightheads-porobolic diffusers!

http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Complete-PHOTOGENIC-Powerlights600ws-PLO6APS-MINT_W0QQitemZ7584849518QQcategoryZ30087QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


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1/25/2006 7:38:12 AM

 
Pat Wimpee   Thanks Suzy and Debby for your imput. I'm definately going to experiment with that lighting, Debby. It's seems like you learn something different from every shoot!!! Suzy, I'm trying you fix tonight for this one!! Thanks again


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1/25/2006 8:00:14 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Hope everyone's day is going well. For all of you who had asked me about seeing actual samples of what is on each cd, there are now samples for 7 of the cds. They are located on the website, lizafranco.com. Go to Template Samples and then you can click on the oval button under each description. Hope this helps.


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1/25/2006 8:10:52 AM

 
Amber Bigelow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/15/2004
  Morning Everyone.... Well... my lights are on the delivery truck right now! Yippee!!! I can't believe it! And it really stinks because I'm at work today so I have to sit here all day thinking about them. Then I have to go to my in-laws house for dinner tonight. Man... of all the nights to have to have dinner there. Oh well... I have thurs & fri off so I can play for four days in a row. Are you guys ready for all of my test shots??? LOL There are going to be a lot.

Let's see... Michele - Great job on the baby shoot. I'm a perfectionist too, so I understand, but I think the mom will be very happy. Thanks to you, and everyone, for always sharing your "rough days" because it lets everyone know that every shoot won't be easy and we're not alone when they aren't. And thanks for sharing your price list. I'm just getting ready to put mine together and that gives me a great starting point.
Christine - Great job on the maternity shoot! I can't wait to do my first one. My SIL is pregnant, but in Utah and I don't think I'll get to see her before she delivers.

Well..back to work! Darn it! I want to play!!! LOL


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1/25/2006 8:13:23 AM

 
Amber Bigelow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/15/2004
  oh, and by the way... a ways up someone asked about websites. If you're interested in cookie cutter (sorry Danielle)...I found a great website that is VERY reasonable. It's called www.winkletwebdesign.com I also found a great website that you can use as a proofing plus ordering site and it's a lot more reasonable than some of the other sites I've seen. Only a 2.9% commission instead of 15% and you can order your prints from whomever you want. They just e-mail you the order and the money goes through paypal. www.ezphotosales.com


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1/25/2006 8:22:22 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Well I HAVE to chime in here,
(sorry Amber)
Actually, I have went with Danielle to build me a web site-
Boy is she on top of it! all kinds of things she is thinking about to build to fit my needs!
I had to chime in here, as I have tryed so many others and they are so limited : from the presentation to the up grade options.
Danielle is building me something that will start me moving forward and is expandable so that there are options as my needs change.
With everything from Wedding and Golf Photography to Family,Portrait and workshops: she has taken on a site that covers a lot of areas and maybe ever changing.
I once went with a web desiger I did not know well and had never done a photography site before-well,I ended up with No codes to change or upgrade the site or pictures on it.She though requested to update-did not the whole year.
She used WRONG materials that could have gotten me sued(I had to wait a year to have it expire) This was a HORRIBLE experiance!
So then I tried the "Do it your self route." well you can all see that for yourselves. though it is there it does not offer a lot, and I and friends of mine have hit it everyday for the year I have had it and it still does not show up at times.The surch engines are not strong I geuss-I really don't know a lot about all this, but I will share this: Laura, told me she belives that is the fact that I don't have a good web site as a presentation for my work.
I moved and for a year and a half was scared to actually rebuild my business in my new community(a hour and 45 mins away from the old) Being Ill and tired made me give it a try.
It has been SSSOO difficult-part of that is the move and rebuild.
But a large Part is that I did not have a good enough site to link me and my work to the new community either.
I am so happy with the attention to details that Danielle has already shown.
I can't wait to see what she does!

beside networking together builds good business relationships.
I hope this helps,I am sure Amber gave some quality services to consider-I just had to share the struggles I have gone through-
because who knew that these days a web site would be so important, useful an dsuch apain if done wrong.
Oh and BTW, lol,lol I have actually got more "..you web site needs help..."
emails then emails requesting my Photography services,lol.
I just started giving people my gallery address.
I do hope this helps


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1/25/2006 8:54:04 AM

 
Debbie Vega
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/23/2005
  I'm here, I never noticed the htread moved to 13, wow.. debbie


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1/25/2006 9:20:01 AM

 
Amber Bigelow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/15/2004
  No Problem Debby. Other opinions (even opposite) are always important and great to have!!! I hope that in a year or so I can afford a "real" website (I found one that I LOVE and want a similar one), but right now I just dropped all my money into lights. And you're right, it's just an option to consider. Definitly good idea to check things out first. I have chatted with quite a few people (and visited their websites) who use these services and they are easy to use and updateable. I too have tried the DIY route and it's just too time consuming for me. Great advice Debby, and I hope to be able to use Danielle in the future!!!!!


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1/25/2006 9:23:32 AM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/29/2004
  Hi everyone! Thanks for all the tips on the lights Debby! It's amazing how quickly you find those and get the info to all of us.

My 2 cents on the websites... as long as you are pleased with the outcome, it doesn't matter how or where you got it. I can't wait to see Debby's new site by Danielle! If I didn't have a hubby that did my website, I would have called Danielle too.

The newborn shots that have been being posted have been so great! I just tried to take one this morning of my almost 2yr old, but he wanted nothing to do with jpics this morning. So as I sit here and try to play catch up, we're playing blues clues tic-tac-toe on nick jr and he's having a blast emptying all my paper clips and putting them back. Well at least most of them are making it back in the holder.

Have a great day everyone!


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1/25/2006 9:35:22 AM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
 
I am learning so much about studio lighting with you all that I cannot wait until I get my Allien bees this weekend. My husband had them up graded and after a year of sitting in the closet not doing anything I cannot wait to get them back. I think once I get some nice shots (freebies) perhaps I can have a website made and start looking for some paying clients. Soooo I am eating up all the suggestions with prices that everyone here is talking about. As I mention before, my clients are mainly babies from church and I only get about 2 or 3 minutes times to shoot a snap shot. Therefore, I end up with very ugly backgrounds and not the best of pictures and I have become pretty good at using Adobe for fixing stuff I do not like. Here is a before and after of one of those pictures. Constructive Critiscm always welcome.

Suzy


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1/25/2006 10:55:33 AM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
 
attached


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Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
 
Ok, having trouble uploading this pics.
I feel like a nerd!!!!

Suzy


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1/25/2006 11:16:24 AM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2006
  Suzy - that's a really cute picture of that baby. One thing I would recommend, though, is if you have ANY choice at all (which you sometimes don't) is to make the background/ground seamless. It's called the horizon line. Maybe in photoshop you could change the color of the rug from blue to the same color as the background. Just a thought!

Wow I feel like a hot topic on here! :) Don't worry I don't mind if you chose to go with a template site. I just know that there are people out there (like Debby) who either don't like them or have had bad experiences with them. But I'm certainly not offended if you choose to use one. :)


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1/25/2006 12:54:39 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Suzy- The second one is definetly better. I agree with Danielle about the backdrop though, although the 2 colors look good together but a bit uneven.


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1/25/2006 2:12:47 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  WEDDINGS WEDDINGS WEDDINGS SHRIEK!@!!!!

They are everywhere .. .and people are calling . . . and I'm frantic because I want to say yes, but don't feel like I can . .. HELP! CALGON TAKE ME AWAY!!!!

This will be my 6th inquiry in about 2 months ... I hate saying "I don't do weddings" but I don't know what else to say . .. the lady today caught me as I was picking my son up from school and the wedding is on New Year's Eve 2006(Sunday). . . Advantages would be I would have the church in my home town to test lighting, etc more easily then the last one that I did . . . BUT it's a 7:00 p.m. wedding and candlelight. .. SHRIEK!!! Anyway .. .I didn't tell her no but didn't tell her yes and told her to do some checking around. .. and I'd do some inquiries as to proper lenses, equipment, etc. .. The bride is very photogenic and I think will be very beautiful so that will definitely help . . . the men will be in black tuxes and the girls in red from the way it sounds. .. kind of christmas type decor and stuff. .. Okay ... now to take a chill pill .. .


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1/25/2006 2:38:01 PM

 
Amber Bigelow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/15/2004
  Michele, that's great that so many people are coming to you for weddings!! Relax. LOL Weddings can be scary, but with careful planning can also be really fun. I have done quite a few (on my own and as an assistant) through the company I used to work for. The biggest thing I can tell you is to have an iron clad contract that covers everything. While brides can be sweet and nice beforehand, if you mess anything up (not that you EVER would! I am not implying that at all!)they become bridezillas! Just protect yourself. And, get a set list of poses the bride wants.

If you go for it, have fun with it and make taking the pictures fun for the bride and you'll score big points.

I think you'd do awesome at it and you can make great money. (always a plus)


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1/25/2006 2:57:43 PM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
  Hi Michelle,

LOL I had to laugh at your wedding post. I know how you feel. I started out saying I wouldn't do weddings, but people keep asking me... so I folded. the first one, I accepted cause it was grooms 2nd and birdes first wedding. they were in 30's. I thought, ok, not a big event. small. casual. it was BIG, in the winter, (nightime) the room was very dark, dark wood paneling,etc. I feel like it was a disaster! however, the bride seemed to be happy enough, she just wanted the CD of images. That was fine with me since I had no resources for albums etc. yet. When people ask me for weddings, I tell them I don't have that much experience... show them my work, tell them my price. encourage them to look at others work, etc. I'm secretly hoping they decide to go somewhere else. lol but never fails, once they meet with me, they hire me before they leave the room!!! ugh! IT's really a confidence thing. I'm getting better! figuring out pricing though for weddings is even tougher than other stuff!! I have wedding booked for april, may, july, aug. and one for 2007! and many more inquires that I haven't answered yet!


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1/25/2006 2:59:30 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  LOL, I think it's so funny that many of us here are so terrified when it comes to weddings. I've been asked to do 2 recently and told the other photographer who recommended me that I'd rather not. She gave them my number and said they are still looking around so hopefully they'll just skip over my name and number. I'm more terried of the "what if's", like what if the film (yes, I use film and love it) doesn't turn out and the whole roll is black, or what if the mother of the bride turns crazy?? I guess I'm just nutty when it comes to thinking about it so much but when it's just in my studio, I can relax and I guess "feel safe".
(Just thought I'd add my craziness!):)


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1/25/2006 3:08:08 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  WOW, Michelle, Amber and Erinn!! I'm still stressing over that referral Sandra B gave me for a small ultra casual wedding on the beach! Timing has been bad with my knee and trying to recover from that, so I haven't been able to concentrate on it much lately. But Erinn, you're so right!!! Trying to price it out has been THE WORST! Especially for my first one! I got some great advice from Dale Marion telling me to set my prices as I want them to be, then discount it in a separate letter to the bride and groom for my first few weddings clearly stating that I'm expanding my portfolio and because of that, they are getting a discount. AND both she and Debby told me to have a VERY clear and iron-clad contract that states that they've hired me for my services based on my style and that photography is an subjective artform, thus they may not like every image I present to them... that way they won't come back and complain if I don't get every typical wedding shot. I will obviously meet with them and go over a shoot list to make sure we get everything they feel is important, but if I get a picture of "Great Uncle Joe" dancing a jig and they don't particularly care for "Great Uncle Joe" OR the jig,they can't come back and say I should have been taking a picture of "Aunt Suzy" blowing them a kiss before she left the reception instead. Anyway, I thought that was a great point Debby made. SO MUCH TO THINK ABOUT!!

Sandra B, if you're out there, I AM going to do this if she still wants me to! I'm so excited about it!!! I just want to come up with pricing that will be fair to us both!


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1/25/2006 3:16:37 PM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2006
  I'm terrified of weddings too but, nevertheless, I am doing one in February without ANY experience. But it's for somebody who isn't paying me and if I weren't doing it, she wouldn't have a photographer at all. So I figure I can mess up all I want.

Michelle - since you have so much time between now and your potential wedding... why don't you try tagging along with a few wedding photographers (if you can find one nice enough to let you) to get a general feel for it and ideas and such. :)


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1/25/2006 3:20:04 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  OK, It wasn't Sandra, it was Tonya C! SORRY!!! I'm going crazy being cooped up in the house for weeks on end!!!! Tonya I truly appreciate the honor of being referred to your friend. SORRY ABOUT THAT!!! LOL!!!


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1/25/2006 3:22:47 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  OOHHHH , you better do this wedding or when I come to TX,I'll smack ya,lol,lol
you just bought (after DAYS of agonizing over it) A nEW VERY expensive lens just for it-I am still droolin'lol,lol,lol
*Just had to give ya a hard time Laura,HEY!!lol,lol


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1/25/2006 3:23:21 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Yah, thanks for that, Deb! I can't even keep names straight and you have to give me crap! LOL! I can always count on you! LOL! :)

OF COURSE I'll still do it, as long as she wants me to! (If I can remember my OWN name by then!!)


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1/25/2006 3:26:53 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
 
 
  ten little toes
ten little toes
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Nikon D50 Digital ...
 
 
LOL...this is funny about weddings. I have done 3 so far and I feel totally sick to my stomach until I see the final outcome. It is crazy! I really don't want to do them, but right now they are giving me experience and $$$. They are scary as H-E- double hockey sticks! But you can get some wonderful experience and beautiful pics too.

I have been going through and editing my newborn shoot, and let me tell you, I have to toot my own horn a little cause the majority of the pics were just right on! I have had to do very little editing except for the ones that were underexposed due to a lighting prob I could not figure out, but I got it corrected before we were halfway into it and the rest are just perfect! The ones where the lighting was off, I shot in RAW and they have repaired wonderfully. I am just having to do the happy dance about them!!!
So anyway, I have been fooling with making some black and white and learning about playing with contrast and curves to make the b/w more dramatic, so I am loading a couple I have worked on...please tell me what you think.


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1/25/2006 3:27:17 PM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2006
  You know almost every single time I hit refresh on this thread... there's something new to read! :)


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1/25/2006 3:28:39 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  Hey Laura, dont worry about it, it is hard to keep things straight, esp when we don't have faces to link everything to! I just thought maybe you got another referral....and I was so excited for you!
Has Stacie called you?


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1/25/2006 3:36:25 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  LOL! Thanks Tonya! Nope. I think two weddings to look forward to after NEVER doing one before would give me a nervous breakdown for sure!!! LOL! no she e-mailed me a while back. We've e-mailed a couple of times and I need to call her but I want to get my head together on all of this first! I did e-mail her just a bit ago and asked her some pertinent questions about her budget, what kind of coverage, prints, albums, etc she might want to help me pinpoint a price. I'm VERY open to suggestions!!!


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1/25/2006 3:39:30 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  S-W-E-E-T newborn pics, Tonya!!!!!


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1/25/2006 3:40:36 PM

 
Amber Bigelow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/15/2004
  Tonya - I LOVE the newborn pictures!!! Beautiful job!!!!

Laura - e-mail me if you want some wedding prices. I can dig up an old brochure from the company I worked for when they first started doing weddings.

Can't wait to see all of your wedding photos!


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1/25/2006 3:45:54 PM

 
Melissa Farnsworth
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/5/2005
  I have done four small weddings that turned out pretty good. The advise that I have is to get a wedding list of all potenital shots and go over them with the b & g to see anything else they might want to add or leave out. And if you can bring back up equipment. At one of the weddings I did my external flash gave out right before the ceremony! Luckly we had done most of the posed pictures before the ceremony. And then I was blessed with a lot of natural light for the reception. Weddings are something that I do not want to continue as my main THING! I just do them for family and friends or friends of a friend and if they are a small wedding. No Bridezillas for me!! I think a beach wedding would be awesome!!! and I love Galveston! We went there every summer when I was growing up.


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1/25/2006 3:58:33 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
  Hey Michelle, GO FOR IT!!!!

Weddings I have done quite a few and they are not as difficult as it may seem. However, the more your business grows liabilities you will encounter. Always carry an extra camera, in case something happens to the one you are shooting with. True story, I had a Medium Format MAMIYA that the shutter froze in the middle of one wedding, THANK GOD we had a replacement loaded and ready to go. Shooting with digital make sure you carry enough memory cards and because they usually tend to lower the lights inside the ball rooms if you can afford to spend money on a slave (or two) they are great on the spot studio lights together with some inexpensive flashes. Another word of advise, in weddings there are MANY photographers! You have everyone invited trying to shoot at the same time you are (stealing your poses!!!) I love those that come with their cell phones trying to catch that special moment. Therefore, if you spend money on a slave, make sure it goes off only with your own flash and not every guess in the room. Then you shoot a lot of pictures!!! We all have seen your work, your pictures will be expectacular I am sure. :)

Suzy


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1/25/2006 4:00:35 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
 
Some bride pics


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1/25/2006 4:07:41 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  so you all think the black and white contrast and such is good?


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1/25/2006 4:08:57 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
 
I love those BW baby photos. They are great.

Suzy


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1/25/2006 4:14:00 PM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2006
  I love your pics tonya! Especially the little foot pic. And yeah... great on the black and white. :)


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1/25/2006 4:14:23 PM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
  Laura,
I did my very first for my daughter's dance teacher's daughter. THey paid all film and developing and voluntarily gave $400. I was going to just do it for free.
I did my first Digital one for $500.. it was 5 hours of shooting. and I gave her an edited CD. end of story.
next....wedding..I got $550 +$300 for edited CD. Now I have a 4 hour package that includes an album and other things for $1400... 8 hours...$2000
I figured out how much I wanted an hour. then figured out how many hours total, including my time editing, my assistant, my costs, etc. so hopefully that will give you an idea. I am actually UNDER priced compared to most of the local comp or about the same.


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1/25/2006 4:37:00 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  I did 1 wedding (my sisters) and the pics came out alright. She likes them. But I was also the Maid of Honor, made the flower girls dress, made the bride's veil, did both their hair, photographer, and baby sitter of my neice the flower girl (4yrs old) and my nephew (5yrs old) plus watching my own children. (My husband had to work late so didn't make it until later). It was the busiest day ever!!

Suzy- Beautiful wedding pics!
Tonya- I love the baby pics!

There are so many talented photographers here, you guys ROCK!!


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1/25/2006 5:30:40 PM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/29/2004
  Dawn, I got exhausted just reading that list! Did you have to make the cake too? hahaha

Michelle, I've not done a wedding before, so I'm not really qualified to say this but GO FOR IT! There's always going to a "FIRST"... so just jump in.

You are an amazing photographer and for you to be getting that many inquiries, apparently people are noticing your work and love it.

Just wear loose legged pants so no one sees your knees shakin'! :)


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1/25/2006 6:15:05 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  Ya know, we were tending to make weddings sound like an awful job...they are not. I love doing them, they are just so stressfull, knowing that there is no chance for a do-over. But getting to photograph such a special moment, taking pictures of a bride...priceless! I think you should do it michelle, they are right, if people are asking, then they like your work. I scoured the internet for pose ideas, lists, etc,...you have plenty of time to do that, even take a course here at bp if you wanted.

Suzy, great pics of the brides! thanks for sharing!


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1/25/2006 6:31:24 PM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/29/2004
  I have a PS question.... I have seen plenty of pics on BP where they have used the "BUZZ" effect in PS. Well, I'm a PS novice and I can't find anything anywhere that tells me "BUZZ". Can anyone steer me in the right direction?


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1/25/2006 6:36:34 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  WOW! LOTS of great info on the wedding questions!!

HEY BRENDA! I believe that Murry Grigsby here on BP uses the BUZZ a lot and may be able to point you to a tutorial, if I remember correctly. Here's the gallery address... http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/gallery.asp?mem=28223


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1/25/2006 6:47:39 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Okay ... you guys are too much LOL. .. now will you all just want to kill me when I tell you that I have actually already DONE a wedding LOL . . . it was the absolute most stressful thing I think I have ever encountered LOL . . I absolutely loved the atmosphere of it all but it was for a friend's daughter so honestly I wasn't that nervous until AFTER the wedding and then I got literally sick to my stomach worrying about the pictures I felt I didn't get . . . and then I made the mistake of looking at the pictures when I got home . . .wrong thing to do . .. they looked horrible in my mind. .. alot of that had to do with the church surroundings and things I couldn't change/control. .. but alot had to do with the lighting too . .. I was an absolute wreck until I heard from them . .. all they wanted from me was the images on a CD and they would take care of printing . . . I way underpriced it considering I ended up doing alot of editing to them that I hadn't agreed to do but I felt I had to do it or else they would hate them . .. anyway ... they said they loved them. .. they did not want alot of posed shots and wanted it to be very casual and photojournalistic so that is what I worried alot about also . .. the fact that they very few formal type of them together. .. she also didn't want him to see her in her dress prior to the wedding so we had to do any and all shots that included the both of them afterwards in about an hour and a half and the whole time we were doign those shots they were just antzy to get to the reception . .. sooo looking back I can definitely see that alot of the reasons I'm reluctant had very little to do with the actual photography and more to do with the events of the photography!


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1/25/2006 7:24:10 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  okay had to divide this up because it booted me last time I typed too much . .. so anyway ... I want to say yes sooooooo bad but I am absolutely terrified. .. and someone mentioned being a shadow . . .if I could only FIND SOMEONE close by to allow me to do that . . . I would be in heaven . . . I ahve a friend in south Oklahoma that has said to come on down and gave me a huge list of dates. .. but it's a long ways to go . .. and she's just getting started as well and so I would love to really shadow a experienced person so I could see the equipment they feel is necessary and know what I'm up against. .. pricing could be an issue because since people know I haven't done them they will want a real bargain . .. and I don't really have a problem with that I guess, but I need to make money at this too . .. I have a huge list of suggested poses and stuff from the last time I did all this research . .. I bought my tamron 28-75 f2.8 lens for the last wedding .. . it's great for the low light but not near enough for zoom and I was up REAL close so I woudl definitely need a different lens? What lens did you get Laura?? the lens I'm thinking I would want/need would be around $900 but I could use it for other stuff later and I have been wanting to get another one anyway . ..but just can't justify it right now . .. so even doing this wedding I would probably make VERY LITTLE just because of the stuff I would have to buy . .. another problem I had was all the nasty shadows from teh flash .. . the ceilings were very high so I couldn't bounce the flash . .. I had bought the omni bounce but I couldn't figure it out . . .now that I've used it some I could probably do better with it . . . but I hate using flash .. hate it hate it hate it . . . but i"m not sure how to avoid it especially wiht a 7:00 p.m. candlelight wedding . .. and I hate shadows. .. they look awful .. . I don't have the wedding images on this computer but if I have time I will upload a few from my other computer so you can see the horror. .. I did this wedding last March and to be honest it was my first big job . .I had only done still life stuff and one other portrait job(the couple's engagement pics) prior to that. . . so needless to say I do havemuch more experience with things now . . . oh and did I mention I had only had my digital camera for about 3 months. ..and that's something else I would have to invest in . .. a backup camera. .. and with the Minolta mess and them selling to Sony I don't know what I would want to do on that . .. geez . . . will this make me crazy or what!


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1/25/2006 7:35:48 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  I have to say, Why in the world, if you have done a wedding where people liked your work, would you go on about the stress _ to where you have everyone building you up?
I don't understand that?
If you don't enjoy them , none of us are going to judge you on that.
We can all understand that-I do them and enjoy sopme aspects and hate the stress levels of some mambers.
So believe me would all understand that more.


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1/25/2006 7:42:42 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  That should read..don't enjoy the stress levels of some members.
so beleive me we would all understand.

sorry, just so confussed about that.

think it is time for a new thread and a subject change.
lets go back to 12.lol,lol
just kidding-it was just such a info packed thread.


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1/25/2006 7:46:12 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Sorry for the intrusion! I'll go to my corner now . ..


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1/25/2006 7:51:12 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  ok, I will change the subject...back to websites. I posted this on the other thread, but it was movin and groovin...so I will post it again. I use yahoo for mine and I really like it. I do it my self, it is a template based, but you can upgrade to different types. I pay $10 a month, and I get my domain and their software for that. I really like it and it is fairly easy to use.


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1/25/2006 7:58:44 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Michelle,
I know you're having troble with some aspects of weddings.
No one accused you of intruding,But the sorry is a nice thing to say.
You did kind of lead us all to belive you were stuggling with a aspect of photography that you wanted to do.
YOu said yourself you hate saying NO,but you weren't quite sure...
So, we all have spent time building you up and reasurring you -
we were trying to help you.
And here all along you had been there and done that.
All I am saying is, Please be honest with us and we will help to address those problems.
But you do kind of put us in a place of feeling stupid.
When all of a sudden, you say:
"Okay ... you guys are too much LOL. .. now will you all just want to kill me when I tell you that I have actually already DONE a wedding LOL"


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1/25/2006 8:05:03 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Well first of all I was thinking that I had mentioned way back when many threads ago that I had one a wedding and relayed some of those aspects of it then.. . since then we of course have many many new people which I didnt' think about them not knowing about that until I was reading through the posts and realized that they werent' aware of that. .. AND the one wedding I did do I did not feel the best about it and since it was so long ago many of the things I researched and stuff are dim memories. . . it is my impression for quite some time that you have not really cared for my involvement in this thread and that is okay . .. I guess I enjoy this thread for the fellowship as well as the learning . .. and I have contemplated considering doing them and knew that others had mentioned them so was just kind of getting some feedback . . . I never meant to make anyone feel stupid and you never hardly respond to me anyway unless it's to point me to the corner so to all of you I am sorry I intruded on your thread in the wedding information . . I meant no harm and certainly wasn't posting just to have you all feel like you needed to build me up. .. if it came off that way I truly apologize. . . I know when I've overstepped my bounds and once again I apologize for that! I'll let everyone get back to the intentions of this thread which is Studio Lighting and not Wedding Inquiry questions!

Feel free to email me if you ever want to chit chat!


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1/25/2006 8:24:06 PM

 
Melissa Farnsworth
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/5/2005
  -deep breath- :)

major subject change- Who loves the tv show LOST? I am so obsessed with that show! My 5 year old goes to AWANAS (church thing) on Wednesday night and I am literally dragging her out of there when it is over so I don't miss LOST. I need to get that tvo thing! anyway, everyone have a nice night. I finally will have my nephew come over Sunday for his 6 month pics. YEAH!!


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1/25/2006 8:28:09 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Can't we just all get along???
Even though someone has already done a wedding, I still think we need to build eachother up. I've done a wedding also, but hardly really count it as a job since it was my sisters wedding. Hey, we still need to hear nice comments from other photographers, it's very uplifting and it's kind of the whole point of being here isn't it? It's just nice th hear kind words from others.
So let's get along and not argue about silly little things.....Please?!


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1/25/2006 8:35:36 PM

 
Amber Bigelow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/15/2004
  Michele - I don't feel stupid for responding to your question since quite a few people are about to do weddings. No need to apologize. I remember reading that you had done a wedding. Don't sweat it.

Soooooo..... I GOT MY LIGHTS!!!! YIPPEE!!!!! Wooohoooo!!!! I am soooo excited! LOL I could not WAIT to get home tonight and have been feeding the kids and getting them ready for bed, all the while staring at my beautiful B&H box. LOL. It was killing me. Anway, I have one out and am going to get the other out, but had to get my daughter a glass of water (bedtime stalling). Just stopped to check the post and tell you how excited I am!!! :) LOL


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1/25/2006 8:36:10 PM

 
Melissa Farnsworth
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/5/2005
  I think some people just need to be constantly reassured. And for the most part I think that is what most people tend to do here. But I think you can only reassure someone so much.


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1/25/2006 8:36:28 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Michelle, you would be wrong, I have said to others that your work can be very good, a few small fun to fix details and you would be havein' even a better time. I have enjoyed the posts where you were sounding more positive and you then were so fun to hear from!
I was really hoping that the positive Michelle would stick around and share-you can be so enjoyable when you seem to be haveing fun.
I am sorry you caught me off gaurd with this-and if you could just have said "het sorry.." Instead of that, sorry I intruded stuff,Please Michelle,You are better then that,you just made a mistake,please just understand it wasn't quite nice and move on.
nd this cornoe stuff is silly, It just gets tiring hearing so much negitive-I am not the only one who liked the happy Michelle.
Look back through the thread Michelle-you will see I did respond to the possitive stuff.
I just love my job always have and I teach and do everything else I do to see others enjoy theirs as well.
It WAS very nice to se you enjoy yourself for a while.
and others noticed to.
All Photography stuff is great to talk about here and you do know that.


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1/25/2006 8:37:47 PM

 
Melissa Farnsworth
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/5/2005
  congrats Amber!! Have FUN!


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1/25/2006 8:39:15 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  My husband tells me all the time that I'm a talented photographer, and do great pictures, but it's never enough.

Amber- Congrats on your new lights!! I know how you feel, I recently got my first strobe and I was so excited. (I took the cowboy, biker, fairy pics with them that I showed everyone) I'm just loving it! Can't wait to see the results of your "testing" them out.
Have fun!


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1/25/2006 8:39:58 PM

 
Melissa Farnsworth
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/5/2005
  Well I understand that feeling.


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1/25/2006 8:43:49 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
 
 
 
k, I won't open my big mouth anymore! :)
I got asked today to take pictures of a 1yr old boy. I took his pics when he was a baby. Any suggestions or ideas would help.
Thanks!
Here's Max when he was younger.


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1/25/2006 8:44:07 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
 
 
 
k, I won't open my big mouth anymore! :)
I got asked today to take pictures of a 1yr old boy. I took his pics when he was a baby. Any suggestions or ideas would help.
Thanks!
Here's Max when he was younger.


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1/25/2006 8:44:52 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Lets try a CLEAN slate,Thread #14:

http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=22019


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1/25/2006 8:47:11 PM

 
Melissa Farnsworth
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/5/2005
  Dawn-
i think the whole birthday cake would be a fun idea. I would love to do something like that. is it for his bday? it is not then scratch that idea. do you have any kind of little chairs or a stool. Maybe you could do some kind of theme of something he likes.


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1/25/2006 8:47:25 PM

 
Cari F. Minnamon   Hello Everyone!! My name is Cari and this thread has truly been a Godsend!! I have been trying to catch up by reading all of the pryor threads on Studio Photography and it has helped me so much!! Better Photo has become my new favorite website. I have been a photographer pretty much forever, but I am now going into business for myself now that I am getting the equipment that I feel with capture the quality in portraits that I want to portray. I have totally fallen into this field right now out of sheer blind faith, and circumstances and I am having to give myself a crash course in Studio Portrait and On location photography. I have soooo many questions, but thankfully I have found many answers here in this forum. One thing that I do have a question about that I havn't seen any post's on yet is posing ideas for older children, tweens, especially girls. Any ideas, suggestions, or resources would be greatly helpful. (This has been moved from another thread, which was meant to post in this thread but I goofed. If you want to see the responses to this thread that will now be combined with this one go to: http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/qnaDetail.asp?threadID=22010 )


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1/26/2006 12:15:07 AM

 
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