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Katrina McMeans
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/9/2005
 

Interested in Critique?


This was just an idea I had...it seems like lots of us want to get more serious critiques of our work, and not just 'great shot' comments. So I was wondering if maybe folks would be interested in forming a little critique club. We could either post certain pictures we wanted critique on here in this thread, or maybe we could just randomly critique pictures in each others galleries. Just an idea, and I would be curious if this seems like a good plan or not.
~K


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12/18/2005 7:40:47 AM

 
Ray  Clarke
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Sounds a good idea to me Katrina, should be fun, as long as people keep it informative but friendly!


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12/18/2005 7:59:18 AM

 
Ray  Clarke
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  We actually belong to a site that offers this facility , but unfortunately if people do not like what you say about their photo they very often hit back at one of yours and there is alot of backbitting which rather spoils the site.


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12/18/2005 8:03:24 AM

 
Gregory LaGrange
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/11/2003
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12/18/2005 8:27:38 AM

 
Gregory LaGrange
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12/18/2005 8:29:11 AM

 
Gregory LaGrange
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  you mean like this-
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/Discussiondetail.asp?threadID=359768


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12/18/2005 8:30:20 AM

 
Brendan Knell
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/17/2005
  I think that's a great idea Katrina!


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12/18/2005 8:47:46 AM

 
Carolyn  M. Fletcher
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  I just looked at that thread, Greg..I rest my case!


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12/18/2005 9:21:12 AM

 
Diane Dupuis
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/27/2003
  Ha ha ha Greg! I offered critique on that photo - but things got out of hand.
I think it's a great idea Katrina, as long as the person is requesting critique. What happened with John is that he didn't request it - but the first person who commented put it under constructive critique which opened the doors.
I think as long as someone is asking for it and the person offering it words it in a nice way it could definitely work.
DDK


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12/18/2005 9:25:54 AM

 
Katrina McMeans
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/9/2005
  Nice to see all the responses! I agree, unless one of us puts our entire gallery up for critique, we should only critique the one they want opinions on. And no insults! Everyone has different ideas of what looks good, and what we want to share is our opinions and technical knowledge, and not belittle someone else's lack of know-how or their own personal tastes.
So, I have very many pictures in my gallery, I know many of them are not good, but I have just not gotten around to updating yet. However, ALL comments are welcome on ANY of my pictures at ANY time.
Look forward to hearing form all of you on what you prefer! ; )
~K


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12/18/2005 10:01:43 AM

 
Brendan Knell
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/17/2005
  I agree with everything Katrina said. I would also appreciate any critique on ANYTHING in my gallery.


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12/18/2005 10:09:29 AM

 
Stan Lubach
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/1/2005
  Count me in. I'm my own worst critic, so I don't think there's anything you can tell me about my shots that would cause me any more grief then I've already heaped on myself ;o)


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12/18/2005 11:24:12 AM

 
Katrina McMeans
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/9/2005
  ; )


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12/18/2005 11:26:27 AM

 
Sharon  Day
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/27/2004
  I think this sounds like a great idea, but in order for it to work you'd need people who know composition as well as other aspects of photography that are willing to offer critique. It seems to me there are far more people wanting critique than there are people willing to do the critiquing.


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12/18/2005 12:20:14 PM

 
Sharon  Day
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/27/2004
  Gregory, that thread is begging for your expertise and wit! I fear you would be misunderstood as well though.


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12/18/2005 12:21:48 PM

 
Katrina McMeans
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/9/2005
  I see what you mean, Sharon. I was thinking we could all kind of chip in on each others photos/galleries. Not that we are experts, but with possibly several different opinions and fresh views on a picture, I think that would give us new ideas for ourselves, or maybe we would notice something we hadn't noticed before.

And Gregory, if you post to that thread I will definitely have fun reading it! ; ) LOL!
~K


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12/18/2005 12:26:48 PM

 
Stan Lubach
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/1/2005
  It would also make for a nice reality check. I don't know how many times I've fixated on a particular aspect of my composition and completely missed something that should have been obvious.


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12/18/2005 12:32:45 PM

 
Katrina McMeans
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/9/2005
  Me too! SO often!
~K


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12/18/2005 1:00:54 PM

 
Bob Cammarata
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/17/2003
 
 
  Ghosts of Dolly Sods
Ghosts of Dolly Sods
At Dolly Sods Wilderness in West Virginia, these huge rock monoliths stand like sentinals against a year-round brisk icy wind. Their "faces" chronicle the harsh conditions there.
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Friendly, constructive critique is always a good thing as long as it doesn't translate to others reading the same thread as a personal attack.
This type of response gets creative people on the defensive and whatever merit the one posting their opinion might have had could be lost.

Here's one photo I'd like to throw out for discussion. I took this a few months ago and when I viewed the resulting slide, it really moved me...especially when I converted it to black and white.
It was passed over in October's contest but I think it's powerful and dramatic.
I would be interested to see if anyone else agrees.


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12/18/2005 1:32:03 PM

 
Carolyn  M. Fletcher
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  I do. Resubmit it!


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12/18/2005 2:03:49 PM

 
Katrina McMeans
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/9/2005
  I REALLY like it, Bob! The shadows and highlights are SO dramatic! Plenty of the contrast in there that I so love!
I think this is stunning. By all means, definitely resubmit it!
~K


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12/18/2005 2:27:49 PM

 
Margie Hurwich
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/16/2005
  OK...I'm in, but I can't submit a photo to this thread as I am logged on from vacation and don't have access to my c: drive. Nonetheless, I would welcome all comments...even sarcastic as I can usually take it. Mostly, I would love your critiques on A Forever Family. This shot means quite a bit to me and it has been passed by in the contest twice. Wasn't really sure which category to post it under either. Thanks! Great idea, Katrina.


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12/18/2005 2:56:33 PM

 
Bob Cammarata
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/17/2003
  Margie,
I like "A Forever Family" a lot.
The sepia tone fits in with the "forever" theme.
I like the inclusion of the chew toy in the composition.
It seems to be cropped a little too tight but the message is clear and well presented.

...As to which category to post under,..probably Elements of Design would be most appropriate.


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12/18/2005 5:08:19 PM

 
Margie Hurwich
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/16/2005
  Thanks so much Bob! I actually did the cropping from the original. I'm going to try and re-crop once I'm home (on vacation right now). I'll try and post a new version.


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12/18/2005 5:29:02 PM

 
Stan Lubach
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/1/2005
  Bob, the tones in your shot remind me of the opening beach scene in that old movie 'The Seventh Seal', especially the sky---that came out great. There's definitely a heavy sense of drama to the image. The only nit I can find to pick are the black dots in the sky which I assume are birds. You can barely see them, but at that distance they just look like bits of dust. I may just be overly sensitive to that kind of thing.

Margie, in "The Forever Family" ( it is 'The' not 'A', right? ) I think having the one shoe on top of the other is a cute touch. I also like how two of the pairs of shoes are tied, but the big ones aren't. I agree with Bob about the crop, more so on the left side rather then the right. I think cropping the shoes just inside the edges might look good, keeping it a little, but not so much that the shot looks too crowded.


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12/18/2005 6:06:13 PM

 
Bob Cammarata
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/17/2003
  Stan,
WOW,..those "birds" ARE specks of dust!
I never even noticed them when I was cleaning the slide prior to scanning.
Thanks for pointing them out.

I just finished brushing the slide and re-scanning it. I'm going to upload the speck-free version and delete the other one from my website.
Thanks again!

Bob


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12/18/2005 6:55:28 PM

 
Corinne M. Thompson
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/31/2005
  Well....If "Newbies" are allowed to join, I would like to. I can't say that I have much "technical" knowledge but I can offer my "polite" opinions. I think for the most part, I have at one time or another commented on photos in most of your galleries.


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12/18/2005 8:02:18 PM

 
Sharon  Day
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/27/2004
  Bob, you have a lot of outstanding images in your website. I enjoyed the ones I was able to browse tonight. I'll be going back. I really enjoyed the fungus shots. I've only seen jack-o-lantern mushrooms once in my life. I think they are the neatest things.


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12/18/2005 8:27:59 PM

 
Katrina McMeans
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/9/2005
 
 
 
I owuld like critique on pne picture in particular...Humming in the Rain. I'll see it I can get it to post here, but if not, it's on the first page of my gallery. Thanks!
~K


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12/19/2005 4:41:27 AM

 
Katrina McMeans
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/9/2005
 
 
 
OK, I don't think that was the right one! I'll try again!
~K


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12/19/2005 4:43:55 AM

 
Justin G.
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/13/2004
  Good image. I like the composition and character too it when you notice the little grasshopper climbing up. I personally would like to see more DOF. I noticed that the little bulb things (my poor flower terminology) and the front petal are a tad fuzzy while the back petal and water drops are very crips. To get the whole thing in focus would be awesome but a reshoot is probably OOTQ considering the bug. Overall very nice.


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12/19/2005 8:15:45 AM

 
Ric Henry
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/29/2004
  Hi Everyone,

Good idea! I would love for people to look at my gallery and give me some honest feedback on what they thing.

Ric


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12/19/2005 8:59:43 AM

 
David A. Bliss   I have joined on a few threads here. I hope you don't mind if I jump in on this one. I am always looking for critical reviews. My ego might get bruised, but I can handle it ;-) I am always looking for ways to improve my work. With that said, Bob, since you asked, I will give you my opinion on "Ghosts of Dolly Sods."

I think it is a very well balanced photo. You have the tree (bush) on the lower right third, and the line of front rocks roughly on the lower left third. This gives this very good weight and balance, and pulls the eye through the shot very well. It is sharp, with good DOF. My concern with this picture is the contrast. It seems flat for how deep the shot is. Did you desaturate for the B&W, or did you use a filter or one of the channels? The reason I ask, is that I think this would benefit from a red or orange filter, if memory serves me. Right now the tree gets lost, and the sky would really pop with some extra contrast. Try some different color filters, because I think it is red and orange that will add depth and contrast to the sky, but I am not positive. Generally, it is better to convert to B&W with channels or with a filter, instead of just desaturating. Forgive me if you already know all this, and I am telling you things you already know! ;-)


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12/19/2005 10:09:33 AM

 
Ray  Clarke
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Hi , We have recently joined the site and enjoy our photography purely for enjoyment. We would appreciate anyone taking a look at our gallery and adding critiques to the disussion area on them. Any comments good or even not so good! appreciated


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12/19/2005 10:31:47 AM

 
Katrina McMeans
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/9/2005
  Thank you Justin! I hadn't noticed that! ; )
But what I HAD been a bit concerned about was that the grasshopper is the same color as the flower, and I wondered if it should have been a different color so that it was more obvious. Or maybe it is better this way, adding a bit of suprise and, as you said, character.
Thanks again! ; )
~K


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12/19/2005 11:10:16 AM

 
Justin G.
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/13/2004
  element of surprise. can't see it from far away but you look into the picture and it's like, wow I didn't notice that was there.


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12/19/2005 12:15:30 PM

 
Sharon  Day
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/27/2004
 
 
 
I was goofing around taking some shots of a bed of American lotus in the late fall, and was totally surprised when I was weeding them out to find this looking up at me LOL. NOT a contest pic, but I saved it anyway.


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12/19/2005 12:44:47 PM

 
Collette Photography
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/21/2005
 
 
 
Hey,
I will jump in here, I would love Constructive critiquing of ALL of my photos in my gallery, I dont take offense easilly, so have at 'em!!!

Here is one espesially I would like to have critiqued!

-Collette-


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12/19/2005 1:44:18 PM

 
Collette Photography
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/21/2005
 
 
 
let me see if I can add it!


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12/19/2005 1:46:39 PM

 
Collette Photography
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/21/2005
  k,I couldnt get it to upload (the story of my life!) But its the one numbered 390 in my gallery!

-Collette-


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12/19/2005 1:54:20 PM

 
Sharon  Day
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/27/2004
  Collette, the trick to getting a pic in these Q&A threads is to be completely signed in before you try to upload one. You don't have the option of using your photo number so you have to upload the pic again.


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12/19/2005 1:56:30 PM

 
David A. Bliss   Here is one that I would love to have critiqued. Please, tell me anything that you see wrong with it. It is a shot I like very much, and want to know what I could do to improve it! Thanks!!

http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/dynoGallDetail.asp?photoID=1065428&catID=&style=&rowNumber=4&memberID=119007


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12/19/2005 4:59:57 PM

 
Bob Cammarata
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/17/2003
  David,
Thanks for your comments and suggestions on my photo.
This shot was converted to black and white the same way I always did it in the past:
I scan the original color slide and use my (very basic) imaging software program to convert it to "gray-scale".

Admittedly, I'm more of a "behind the camera" type of person,...not real comfortable with post-processing finesse and techniques.

I DID do something a little different to this image when I re-scanned and uploaded it last evening...(after Stan pointed out a few dust specks I had missed on the original post.)
I uploaded a TIFF file instead of JPEG, and tweaked the contrast just a hair.
(Oh,...and I also cleaned the slide thoroughly and applied Digital ICE.) ;)

The new version can be seen on my website or at this link:
http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/dynoGallDetail.asp?photoID=1571802&catID=3889&style=&contestCatID=&rowNumber=3&camID=2154
Bob


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12/19/2005 5:21:39 PM

 
Katrina McMeans
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/9/2005
  Collette, I had already commented on that picture before...but I still think it's pretty! The rest of you guys should check it out...I might have missed something that you could help her with.

David, I had a look at your picture and posted a little post there...

That's another thing, do we want the critiques here or on the thread of the picture? Or both?
~K


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12/20/2005 4:31:27 AM

 
Margie Hurwich
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/16/2005
  I actually like them here. We can all learn something! That is just one thing I love about BP.

BTW, as I am on my mother-in-law's computer, I am not able to clearly see the shots people are asking to be critiqued. When I am home, I can better view and comment.


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12/20/2005 4:43:16 AM

 
Ray  Clarke
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  I would prefer them on the thread of the picture so that I can always refer to the advice that has been given.


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12/20/2005 5:51:24 AM

 
Sharon  Day
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/27/2004
  I would prefer the critique and photo here as well. That way we can keep the thread going and as just now pointed out we'll have a reference as well. Just remember to be signed in fully before trying to add an image to the threads. If you aren't signed in it won't work. You have to upload the photo again as well. There's no option for the image #.


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12/20/2005 6:27:04 AM

 
William K. Shank   I'd like to see a number rating system. You could have a overall rating but also have a rating for lighting, composition, focus etc.


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12/20/2005 6:44:30 AM

 
Ray  Clarke
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Been there done that, ends up tit for tat marking and gets very catty


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12/20/2005 8:22:39 AM

 
David A. Bliss   Ray & Audrey, I am wondering by some of the things you have said, are you refering to a "far" site?


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12/20/2005 8:27:46 AM

 
Ray  Clarke
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  David, I dont think so


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12/20/2005 9:23:40 AM

 
Ray  Clarke
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Think if the critiques are primarily under the discussions area on the photos it would make it easier for each photographer to find their own critiques as this thread could get very long and therefore unruly. I suppose it would be possible for us to copy and paste them into here to share with others if we wished?


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12/20/2005 10:09:58 AM

 
David A. Bliss   I would like to thank everyone for their critiques! It has given me a lot to think about and experiment with. What is always fun about getting reviews is how diverse they can be. What one person likes, another can see as a flaw. It is great getting so many different points of view!


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12/20/2005 11:43:08 AM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
 
 
 
Ok I'm ready!!! I would LOVE for someone to give me some constructive critiquing of my images in my gallery! I will upload an image that was my favorite for last month & didn't make it. I so A LOT of post processing though to my images cause I like b&w photography. THOUGH I use Virtual Photographer to turn images b&w & adjust the levels. I have to say though that with my Nikon I think I'm just not getting enough light. I use natural light, BUT the lense I have is a 28-100mm 5-5.6G Nikkor lense. My original images come out pretty yellowish. NO lights are on in the room & I don't use flash. SOOO what is the problem?!?!?!...I am trying to learn as much as possible. My clients always love their images, BUT I'm starting to second guess myself for some reason when I view all the finalist images. There aren't much indoor portrait finalists & if they are they are more HEAD SHOTS than anything else. Ok I'll stop rambling. PLEASE someone give me some input!!!! You can e-mail me basic tips or leave a comment in my gallery or here...WHICHEVER..I'm just starting to think I need some honest PROFESSIONAL criticism. I think my images are "CUTE", BUT honestly I want some real advice to make myself better:):) THANKS!!! Here is the first image up for grabs!!!

Alisha


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12/20/2005 1:31:20 PM

 
Sharon  Day
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/27/2004
  Ray & Audrey, I feel a Q&A thread for critique could work quite as well as entering a pic and then selecting CC and making the first comment. I've seen images in the CC get really blasted on. This seems friendlier to me.

Alisha, I'm not a portrait photog at all. I find it intimidating. With that said, I do look at the people category and it seems to me the judges lean towards more candid or almost photojournalistic type shots of people rather than the professional portrait look. That's not written in stone, just a personal observation.

I'm afraid I don't have a clue why your baby portrait was overlooked except for the fact a lot of outstanding images don't make finalist each month.


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12/20/2005 5:29:33 PM

 
Katrina McMeans
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/9/2005
 
 
 
Alisha, I personally (but keep in mind this is NOT a professional opinion! ; ) think that the baby would look more appealing if the mouth were closed. It would look more peaceful somehow, in my opinion.
Ray and Audrey, whenever I critique your photos, I will make sure to leave it in the photo's own discussion. If that's the way you prefer, that is fine with me! I know it's easiest to get your critiques in the way that you will be able to keep track of them best! Personally, I like critiques on my individual photo discussions too...but I won't object to any way I can get them! LOL!

And speaking of critiques...if anyone wants to have a go at this...here it is!


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12/20/2005 7:11:30 PM

 
Katrina McMeans
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/9/2005
  OK, that didn't work. It's the one on the first page of my gallery, "Wanna Kiss?"
I've also submitted it under constructive critique...if you want to find it there instead! ; )
~K


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12/20/2005 7:13:25 PM

 
Bret Tate
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/12/2005
  Sorry I'm so late in getting to this thread. Critques are a great way to learn. Not just getting one but also giving one. Trying to pin down what you like and don't like in a photo is very helpful. When someone else's photos are available, you can do it without brining your own emotional attachment. SO -

All of the photos in my gallery are fair game. Go ahead and critique away. Don't worry about hurting my feelings or being insulting. I have been a teacher and umpire for years. I have a very thick skin and will not take offense at any comment.

One of the exercises that our photo club does to help people critique is for people to bring several good and bad images for critique. That way the viewer knows that the photographer does not think all of the images being shown are good. The club's job is to honestly critique then we find out what the photographer thinks.


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12/21/2005 5:59:03 AM

 
Kate Jackson
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/9/2004
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  I would also love any critique rather than "great shot". I would often like to give my opinion on other members shots but am far too worried about upsetting them so I guess the best way is to put yourself into CC.
Alisha I adore your baby on the towels. It is such a great idea but for me personally I very rarely like effects which make things look too soft and out of focus. I can see you would not want anything too harsh for a baby but I think you have overdone the effect. I do however know that a lot of people like it that way.


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12/21/2005 7:41:01 AM

 
Ray  Clarke
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Could anyone enlighten me as to what CC is please?


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12/21/2005 11:25:55 AM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
  Constructive Criticism. Thanks to all who gave input on my image!! I really do appreciate it & see your thoughts!! THANKS!!!


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12/21/2005 11:36:03 AM

 
Collette Photography
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/21/2005
  hey all, I tryed to get to a few galleries today to offer my oppinions as far as CC goes, hope they were helpfull!!! Can't wait to get more CC on mine!!!=)

-Collette-


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12/21/2005 1:36:05 PM

 
Margie Hurwich
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/16/2005
 
 
  The Forever Family 2
The Forever Family 2
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OK...I'm finally home from vacation and have played with the original of my shoe shot. What are your thoughts on this version?


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12/22/2005 11:57:00 AM

 
Bob Cammarata
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/17/2003
  Margie,
I like the crop of this version better than the original.
As I mentioned in my post on the original, the sepia tone fits in with the "forever" theme.
...And I really like the chew toy. It includes "Fido" as part of the family.

The focus seems a little off on this version, especially on the shoes to the far right.

Great story-telling image!


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12/22/2005 12:56:39 PM

 
Brendan Knell
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/17/2005
 
 
BetterPhoto.com Editor's Pick   Hidden Beauty
Hidden Beauty
ISO 64, f/8, Focal length 18.0mm, Exposure 1Sec. Entered 4/29
© Brendan Knell
Sony Cyber-shot DS...
 
 
Right now, I'm interested in some critique on some of the waterfall pics in my gallery. I'm uploading my favorite and by far most popular.


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12/22/2005 1:18:44 PM

 
Jennifer C. Hoffmann
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/14/2005
  Hi Everyone!

I would love it if someone could critique the images in my gallery, I am still trying to learn all the different aspects of photography and any input good or bad would be great! Thanks and have a Merry Christmas :)


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12/22/2005 1:29:12 PM

 
Ric Henry
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/29/2004
  Has anyone had a chance to CC any of my photos in my gallery? I haven't seen anything here or with the photo itself. Just checking to see if anyone has.


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12/22/2005 2:18:30 PM

 
David A. Bliss   Ric, would you like the critiques on your photo discussions, or here?


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12/22/2005 2:22:53 PM

 
Ric Henry
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/29/2004
  Thanks David for responding here is fine, or what ever is easiest for you.


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12/22/2005 2:31:39 PM

 
Susan L. Vasquez
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/24/2005
 
 
 
I'll join this happy conversation...
I am curious why one shot made the finalist and the other (better shot in my opinion) did not. Both shots were taken at the same time, but on "Fire 1" I did change the levels to make the color natural, on "Fire 2" I left the image as it was straight out of the camera. I feel "Fire 2" has the lovely sunset lighting and overall more appealing. Seems like the judges preferred "Fire 1" What do you think?


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12/22/2005 8:47:06 PM

 
Susan L. Vasquez
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/24/2005
  I'll join this happy conversation...
I am curious why one shot made the finalist and the other (better shot in my opinion) did not. Both shots were taken at the same time, but on "Fire 1" I did change the levels to make the color natural, on "Fire 2" I left the image as it was straight out of the camera. I feel "Fire 2" has the lovely sunset lighting and overall more appealing. Seems like the judges preferred "Fire 1" What do you think?
Both are in my gallery.


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12/22/2005 8:49:24 PM

 
Susan L. Vasquez
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/24/2005
  seems I am so excited, I'll join it twice ;)


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12/22/2005 8:50:03 PM

 
Sharon  Day
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/27/2004
  I preferred Fire 1 myself, Susan. I think that's an awesome cat portrait! Very well done!


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12/22/2005 9:01:05 PM

 
Tamera S. Phillips
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/28/2005
  I admit it - I'm a newbie. I joined this site to learn. I apologize ahead of time if I may ask questions that seem so simple to any of you but I guess I was under the impression that people were here share information. There have been a few people who have offered so much to me and for those - I always say "Thank you" and it comes straight from my heart. I welcome anyone who would like to take the time to look at my gallery and offer suggestions or CC. Welcome it!!! I am starting classes in January so this is more than just a hobby to me. I want to learn - I want to be able to produce photo's that others enjoy. I really like this site and am happy to have found it.


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12/22/2005 9:02:56 PM

 
Maverick Creatives
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/1/2004
 
 
 
MERRY CHRISTMAS !!


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12/22/2005 9:05:00 PM

 
Bret Tate
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/12/2005
  Gary, I thought you were going to sleep. I did check your gallery out earlier this evening(from Craig's thread). I really like the photos of the female at the cabin. Very nice.


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12/22/2005 9:11:43 PM

 
Susan L. Vasquez
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/24/2005
 
 
 
Thanks Sharon, I still won't change my mind about which one I prefer :) Fire makes it really easy, very much a ham.

The only other shot I'll submit tonite for critique is "Portrait of a Swimmer"
This shot speaks volumes to me, and I must say I was disappoined it didn't make the finals.


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12/22/2005 9:16:13 PM

 
Christopher A. Vedros
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/14/2005
  I've been watching this thread for a while, but hadn't joined until now. I feel guilty that I haven't spent more time reviewing other members' galleries and offering constructive criticism.

I'm just always so busy jetting off to Hawaii or California to shoot weddings for gobs of money. --- No, wait, that's that other guy, not me. ;-)

What I meant to say was that my time management skills stink, and I already spend more time on BP.com than I should, considering I'm supposed to be working right now. Yeah, that sounds more like me.

I have two resolutions for the New Year: I will try to spend more time reviewing galleries and offering CC for people who want it. AND I will update my gallery. I haven't added any images since before Katrina. I've taken a lot of pictures, I just haven't felt very inspired by them lately.

But everyone is always welcome to critique any of my images - I promise I won't pull a "schwentner" on you. ;-)

Chris


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12/23/2005 6:24:14 AM

 
Ric Henry
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/29/2004
  David & Brendan thank you both for commenting on my pictures. I will get to your galleries later. Susan I like the Fire 1 also it looks more natural. And Chris you are funny I read some of the Schwetner thread and could not finish reading it. I don't think that guy nows what he talking about.


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12/23/2005 7:08:24 AM

 
Kerry L. Walker   I'm just always so busy jetting off to Hawaii or California to shoot weddings for gobs of money. --- No, wait, that's that other guy, not me. ;-)


LMRO Chris!

I think you guys are taking John the wrong way. Many of the comments attacked his choice of subject matter, not the technical aspects of the work so he got defensive. When people have made comments that were not attackes on the subject, he responded more positively. I made a comment on something I would have changed and he responded in what I consider a positive manner regarding how he preferred it the way it was. That is art. Different folks have different ideas of how it should be done.

John had the same thing happen when he first joined here and posted another photo that I personally think is a great photo. He was attacked for the subject matter, not the work itself.


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12/23/2005 7:23:23 AM

 
Bob Cammarata
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/17/2003
  Isn't the choice of subject matter a major part of "the work itself"?
What one chooses to portray is as important as how he or she portrays it.


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12/23/2005 7:38:00 AM

 
Stan Lubach
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/1/2005
  Hi all. The holidays have kept me away from my computer, so I haven't been able to contribute as much as I'd like, but I would like to add to this discussion.
I admit that I get a little disappointed when someone is critical of one of my shots. They are my babies, after all. But I know that the critical eye is important for me to grow as a photographer, so I welcome all comments.
I look forward to getting a good look through everyone's gallery after the holidays. Until then, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to everyone!


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12/23/2005 8:12:23 AM

 
Margie Hurwich
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/16/2005
  I am back from vacation, so am going through this discussion one critique at a time. Please forgive me if I don't get the terms correctly as I am a newbie (just picked up a camera for the first time 6 months ago).

Ray and Audrey, which other websites do you belong that offer cc?

Katrina, I attempted to cc "Progressive Freezing" but kept getting errors. This is a wonderfully composed shot. Love the angle.


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12/23/2005 8:16:24 AM

 
Katrina McMeans
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/9/2005
  Thanks, Margie! Sorry you were having trouble with it!
~K


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12/23/2005 12:09:59 PM

 
Kerby Pfrangle
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/19/2005
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I love to have this photo critiqued.

I am not sure I like it because it so different my husband thinks it a little wild and I like your opinions on this one good bad or indifferent.

Thank you.

Kerby


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12/23/2005 1:48:45 PM

 
Kerby Pfrangle
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/19/2005
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I am trying to add the ball now it did not take the first time.


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12/23/2005 1:50:26 PM

 
Margie Hurwich
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/16/2005
  OK...almost the end of the day and I think I've gotten through many of your galleries if you have asked for critiques. I hope anything I said was helpful.

Stan, re-reading this thread, I wanted to comment on my shoe shot. I had never, with all of the times that I looked at that shot, even noticed that the large shoes were untied! How funny!

Susan, I like Fire 1 as well. Although the lighting in Fire 2 looks like it was taken during the golden hour, I like the natural look of your beautiful cat!

Tamera, you will LOVE the classes here at BP. As I mentioned above, I just picked up my first camera 6 months ago. I've taken 2 classes (with a 3rd one in January) and have learned so much! I was very lucky to have found BP. With that said, while looking at your gallery, I know you already have all of the basic knowledge of photography...correct exposure, rule of thirds, PS knowledge, etc. Great job.

Gary, a very Merry Christmas to you too!

My gallery is open to any of you that would like to offer up continued critiques other than The Forever Family. I truly welcome it!


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12/23/2005 2:51:44 PM

 
Rob Zuidema
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/19/2005
  My gallery is open for critique as well. I am just a newbie with a camera, so any comments, suggestions, critique, etc. would be very helpful. Of course, if you really like something, you may post that too! :-)

I would like to offer critique on photos of others, but that would presume a foreknowledge of photography, but....well, you know.

However, I do sometimes comment on a photo that really strikes an emotional chord, and is one that I really like.

Sometimes I feel so inadequate among the talent here, that I think I should just put my camera away, but I am not going to, photography is just too fun!


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12/23/2005 5:43:33 PM

 
Collette Photography
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/21/2005
  Ok, Im going to try and get through some more galleries today and offer some CC, not that my oppinion should be highly valued, but hopefully it will be somewhat helpfull!!!=)

I am also uploading some new photos today, and some of the ones that I have fixed using the suggestions that BP'rs have given me, so if you get the chance I would love some more CC on any photos that I have!!=)

I thank you all that have given CC on my photos, its greatly appreciated!!

I Hope you all have a Verry Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!!!=)

-Collette-


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12/24/2005 11:22:09 AM

 
Wanda-Lynn Searles
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/13/2004
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  Hi Everyone,
I would love for people to look at my gallery and give me some honest feedback on what they think.
I am always looking for ways to improve my work.I would appreciate anyone taking a look at my gallery and adding critiques any comments good or even not so good! My ego might get hurt,but I can handle it :).
The first photo in my gallery "Jager" was my very first photo session last week.I would like some feedback on it and what everyone thinks.
Count me in.I'm my own worst critic but think it would be great for everyone.
Take care everyone and Have A Very Merry CHRISTmas and Happy New Year!


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12/25/2005 2:33:50 AM

 
Wanda-Lynn Searles
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/13/2004
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  I also forgot to tell everyone as well as my gallery you can check out my website which has more of my photos that I sell on it and gifts.
The link is in my gallery but I'll add it here also.It will be on the main page it says Lynn's Photography.
It's www.lynnsdreamshop.com


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12/25/2005 3:03:08 AM

 
Ray  Clarke
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  our gallery is open to all for critiques as well... always welcomed


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12/25/2005 2:58:21 PM

 
Dr. Evil   Hey Chrisy, you forgot mexico. Sounds like you got a cushy job if you got time to play around on this amatuer site.

Looks like Jerry F. left, great pictures, but very snoby.

And Kerry likes one of John Schwenters photos, jeez, I thought he had a little taste


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12/25/2005 9:02:19 PM

 
Dr. Evil   Here it is on the line. 75% of you here shoot weak pictures, which is understandable, because I was once there myself. Your biggest problem is that other amatuers are helping with your problems. If they were really great they wouldn't have time, they'd be shooting. If you really want to learn you need to assist a professional(probably for free at first) but the pay off is big in the end


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12/25/2005 9:16:04 PM

 
Katrina McMeans
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/9/2005
  Thank you for your opinions, Dr. Evil. We realize that few if any of us here are professionals, we just want to get some different ideas and opinions from each other that will make us think, and perhaps view things differently. You know, keep an open mind and that sort of thing.

Having said that I realize I am not a professional, suppose I was at that skill level, just not following it as a career. I would be really great AND would have time to help others.
Also, your idea of helping a professional to learn it yourself is great...but unfortunately won't work for those of us who hold down full time jobs elsewhere.

So are you offering your skills as a critiquer? I realize I have many poor images in my gallery on account of having gotten better and not gotten around to updating the gallery yet. Nontheless, you are welcome to critique any of my pictures.
~K


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12/26/2005 5:19:44 AM

 
Kerry L. Walker   I am sure most of you have heard of the song "Horse With No Name". Well, we also have the horse's rear with many names but no gallery. I see the Name Changer has resurected one of his old names, Dr. Evil. Are you trying to stay under the radar with the name Craig Paulsen?


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12/26/2005 6:27:05 AM

 
Christopher A. Vedros
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/14/2005
  I guess Santa didn't leave him any toys this year, so he came back here to play.


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12/26/2005 7:39:47 AM

 
Katrina McMeans
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/9/2005
  Is THAT who that is!? I remember seeing a thread featuring him/her/it when I first joined...and wondering what kind of site I had just joined!!! LOL!
~K


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12/26/2005 11:25:37 AM

 
Susan L. Vasquez
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/24/2005
  yep that is Dr. Evil. Spreading joy wherever he goes :)
I don't see much truth in his statement. I have met several professionals. Most enjoy helping others...although there are a few who won't share their knowledge. Those few must not be confident enough with their talent.

Did you have a nice Christmas Katrina? I really did enjoy your new shot of your sister...am curious what you did crop out though? I think I would have enjoyed seeing the horse as well.


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12/26/2005 11:35:03 AM

 
Katrina McMeans
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/9/2005
  I had a very nice holiday, Susan! And a great three day weekend off work! ; )

About that one picture, you know, I forget exactly what I cropped!!! It was an old picture that I think I hadn't composed very well, and this was about all I could do to fix it up! I'll see if I can find the original and post it here!
~K


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12/26/2005 11:42:00 AM

 
Margie Hurwich
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/16/2005
  Hi all. I'm going back to my request for critiques. A couple of you have been to my gallery...and I appreciate all of the feedback, but would always welcome more! Thanks! Hope everyone's holiday was beautiful.


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12/26/2005 3:03:48 PM

 
Margie Hurwich
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/16/2005
  All, Stuart U. has started a Part 2 of this discussion as this thread has gotten quite long. You can find it at http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=21400.


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12/26/2005 5:50:37 PM

 
Hayley H
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/3/2007
 
 
 
Hello all! This is a terrific thread! I would love any and all cirtiques as I find that asking family and friends only gets me a 'Well Done', nothing useful. If you know what I mean. I'll post one of my favourites up here, and so if anyone is feeling so inclined, have at it! Thank you
-Hayley


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11/11/2007 3:13:36 PM

 
Maverick Creatives
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/1/2004
  Hi Hayley. You woke us up. The last previous post to yours was from 2005. Yawnnnn,,,,good sleep.
About your photograph.
Well composed and metered of course, with a nice crisp background. The problem is,,,ummmm,,,the kiss.
It's lacking passion.
Re take the photo and this time let's get into the kiss with more enthuiasm.
lol

Nice shot. I'm sure it's already in your memory album.

Hey everyone else above ^^^^ How have you been and what are you up to?
Gary


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11/11/2007 3:29:04 PM

 
Hayley H
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/3/2007
  Hahaha wow I totally didn't even check when the last post was put up! oops I guess I should have looked. Oh well thanks for replying anyways Maverick!
I love what you said about getting into the kissing a bit more, I completely agree. Thanks ever so much for pointing it out, I knew there was something I wasn't too keen on...that would be it!
WAKKKEEE UPPPPP EVERYONE!!!! hahaha maybe we can get this awesome thread back up and running!
-Hayley


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11/11/2007 11:14:32 PM

 
Amanda  M. Freese
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/18/2007
  Hey ! are you guys still taking entries!?!

I took a look at Rob Z.'s gallery.. . "newbie with a camera"? what? If I had images in my gallery that looked like that I'd be one proud mama. Those are amazing Rob!

Please send critiques my way as well guys and I'll will be returning the favor.. I use them to grow, so don't worry im not one of the biters..

:)


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11/13/2007 10:19:01 PM

 
Rob Zuidema
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/19/2005
  Thanks for those really kind words Amanda! Actually, that was almost 2 years ago that I wrote that and, although I still feel like a newbie sometimes, I have learned quite a bit from BP. The Q&A, browsing the photos, reading comments/critique, etc, have all helped me grow in my photographic experience. And still a lot more growing/learning to go yet.


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11/14/2007 5:28:18 PM

 
Amanda  M. Freese
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/18/2007
  Oh good, then I hope I'll be where you are in a couple years then. I'm so new it hurts. :)
But Im getting there..
You're right, the conversations and help you get here are sooo helpful!


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11/14/2007 8:05:27 PM

 
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