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Doug Royal
 

Cannon 20D or a 70-200 2.8l IS lens


I currently have an original canon digital rebel (6.3mp), I now have the opportunity to buy a Canon 20D or a Canon 70-200 2.8L IS lens. I am wondering if anyone has an oppinion on which one to buy first. Thanks for the input.


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December 11, 2005

 

Doug Royal
  By the way. I am taking a lot of indoor sports pictures (hockey, basketball and indoor track), with various lighting issues.


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December 11, 2005

 

Justin G.
  I don't shoot digital but I used to shoot Canon. I'd personally get the lens. I mean a camera is nothing without a good lens so if you got the 20D you'd have two good cameras with kit lenses (well depending on what lenses you own) that aren't that great. I'd go with great glass on a decent camera, then later upgrade to the 20D or whatever is out then.


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December 11, 2005

 

Jon Close
  Ditto, I'd go for the lens. The EF 70-200 f/2.8L IS USM is a terrific lens, a huge step up in speed (ring USM autofocus and f/2.8 for faster shutter speeds) over the kit zooms, as well as the IS feature to counter shake from hand-held shooting.

Indoor gym lighting can be dark, especially in small schools that don't have lighting for TV. You might even consider forsaking the convenience of the zoom for a couple even faster prime lenses.

EF 70-200 f/2.8L IS USM is about $1700 less a $50 rebate = $1650.

v. 3 primes (with Canon's triple rebates):
EF 85 f/1.8 USM = $350 - $45 = $305
EF 135 f/2L USM = $900 - $105 = $795
EF 200 f/2.8L USM = $660 - $75 = $585
for a total of $1685. Of course this set is greater weight, more time changing lenses, and no IS. But it is one stop faster aperture at all but 200mm. Just a thought (I'd probably still go with the 70-200 zoom).


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December 12, 2005

 

Sharon Day
  I have to agree with Justin & Jon! I had the choice of getting a lens I've been wanting or getting the Nikon D200 when it came out. I opted for the lens I had been wanting.


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December 12, 2005

 

Justin G.
  Jon, now that's temptation. It would really take me weeks/months to decide on which to go with. While the 70-200 f/2.8L IS is probably Canon's most sought after lens, The quality of those three primes you listed is superb and for the prices, why not?!? But also I'm more into portraiture and stills instead of sports so maybe for indoor sports Doug would probably be better off with the 70-200. And also I believe the D Rebel is a 1.6 FOVCF so that gives him a tad more reach, and he'll probably never notice any weaknesses on the edges. Good call though, because that is a TOUGH call!


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December 12, 2005

 

Chris Macer
  I'll opt for the lens I think. I assume that you are still using the kit lens that came with your 20D?? If so you will see a huge difference when snapping on the sexy bit of L glass that that the 70-200 2.8L IS is :)

I own the non IS 2.8L and use it on the 350D/XT and I am very pleased with the results. I don't shoot indoor sports however so I agree the IS will probably be more useful to you.

With the 20D option you still won't have the telephoto reach that you require for the sports anyway so worry about the body later. I hope that helps!


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December 12, 2005

 

Doug Royal
  Thanks, Justin, Jon, Sharon and Chris.
I guess I will get the lens first, then decide later on the camera. Who knows maybe the 5D will get cheaper? Thanks Jon for the list of prime lenses, maybe I will have enough left over to buy that EF 85.

Thanks again.


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December 12, 2005

 

Peter K. Burian
  Doug: Before buying the f/2.8 lens check it out at a store. It is massive and very! heavy.

I sold mine and bought the much smaller EF 70-200mm f/4L USM. Still a pro lens but much smaller/lighter.

Unless you have a specific reason why you need an f/2.8 zoom, I think the f/4 model is a lot more practical. And affordable.

See http://www.photographyreview.com/cat/lenses/35mm-zoom/canon/PRD_84503_3128crx.phpx

Regards, Peter Burian, Instructor,
Mastering The Digital Camera and Photography
http://www.betterphoto.com/photocourses/PBN01.php


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December 13, 2005

 

Doug Royal
  Peter, you're absolutely right. The lens is massive and heavy. Luckily the store I go to also rents out these two lenses. So this weekend I'm renting both the f2.8 and the f/4 model lenses to see which one will best suit my needs. Thanks for the input.


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December 13, 2005

 

Peter K. Burian
  That's a great idea, Doug. You're lucky to have a store of that type nearby.

Peter

www.peterkburian.com

http://www.betterphoto.com/photocourses/PBN01.php


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December 13, 2005

 

Chris Macer
  Indeed you are lucky to have the opportunity to rent them!

Doug, please let us all know how this works out for you. I have a feeling that you will find the 2.8L more useful for indoor sports as it is in theory 5 stops faster than the 2.8L (2 apperture stops + 3 from the use of IS). This will surely help with less than ideal lighting and fast action sports.

Combine it with a monopod if handholding gets the biceps a tad sore :) The 2.8L even comes with a tripod collar unlike the 4L. Either way, have fun and let us know what you think!


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