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Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
 

STUDIO PHOTOGRAPHY:PART 5 FROM IDEA TO REALITY


This is now part #5 of the ongoing Thread on Studio Photography.
From start to finish we discuss Buying equipment,Setting up your Studio(home or moblie) and the Business of..

Grab a cup of coffee(or...) and catch up and join us, here are the other links:
PART1:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=17534
PART 2:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=18585
PART3:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=19127
PART 4:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=19665


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10/18/2005 7:35:43 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  I'm HERE!!! Hi there, Debby!


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10/18/2005 7:50:21 AM

 
Constance Kessel
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/29/2004
  HI again...still here, was uploading as the thread was changing!! LOL So, I posted on the end of the last thread...any comments? Thanks!


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10/18/2005 8:01:53 AM

 
Delores Holloway
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/7/2005
  much better, thanks...
Just got a family shoot at local park on thursday and a 1 year old shoot (at her party on Sat.) sounds confusing.. I thik the party will end up being more like an event shoot not a portriate session....

Anyone ever done a childs birthday party?


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10/18/2005 8:02:28 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
 
 
 
Okay that was fast LOL . . . I have this dilemma. . . I did a family shoot on Saturday . .. first thing off the mom commented that she isn't photogenic. .. they arrived looking fine . . . hair wasn't what I expected but just looked very casual . . . well I know this lady really well and she was pretty self conscious about being "seen" in the pictures because she thinks she is fat, etc. . . so I knew right off that no matter how or what that she probably wouldn't like the pictures. . . and not necessarily because of what I did or didn't do but simply because of how she felt she looked. . . I sent the proofs to them on Saturday night and let her know on Sunday they were there. .. yesterday she calls and something happened and she couldn't find them all so I sent them again . . . never though did she comment on the pictures or anything .. . well she was wanting Christmas cards so I took her the sheet with the design choices on it yesterday and still she never commented on the pics until finally she just said . . .well I'll probably use the one of the girls on the card(their 3 daughters). . . and then she commented about how fat she looked, etc. . . I said I thought they looked fine . . she is hardly FAT . . . yes maybe larger than HS years but she's 40ish and face it alot of us don't look like we did when we were 18. . . so now I'm feeling kind of bad, but simply don't know what to say really . . . I will post a couple of them so you guys can tell me what you think?? and be honest. . .did I just totally screw this sitting up based on posing choices??



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10/18/2005 8:05:49 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
 
 
 
WELL,
I WOULD RATHER HAVE WAITED FOR YOU TO RE-POST BUT , I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK I AM NOT ANSWERING YOU EITHER.
YOU USE A BACKLIGHT ON BLACK ONLY WITH A GEL OR FILTER. SUCH AS I WILL POST HERE- AS IN THE CASE OF YOUR HUSBAND, I WOULD HAVE USED A BLUE GEL.
EBAY -REALLY CHEAP.
THIS WILL ALSO HELP BABIES NOT LOOK LIKE THEY ARE -FLOATING THROUGH SPACE-BUT INSTEAD GIVE THE APPERANCE THAT THE ARE POSED ON BLACK FOR THE EFFECT.


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10/18/2005 8:06:16 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
 
 
 
Okay that was fast LOL . . . I have this dilemma. . . I did a family shoot on Saturday . .. first thing off the mom commented that she isn't photogenic. .. they arrived looking fine . . . hair wasn't what I expected but just looked very casual . . . well I know this lady really well and she was pretty self conscious about being "seen" in the pictures because she thinks she is fat, etc. . . so I knew right off that no matter how or what that she probably wouldn't like the pictures. . . and not necessarily because of what I did or didn't do but simply because of how she felt she looked. . . I sent the proofs to them on Saturday night and let her know on Sunday they were there. .. yesterday she calls and something happened and she couldn't find them all so I sent them again . . . never though did she comment on the pictures or anything .. . well she was wanting Christmas cards so I took her the sheet with the design choices on it yesterday and still she never commented on the pics until finally she just said . . .well I'll probably use the one of the girls on the card(their 3 daughters). . . and then she commented about how fat she looked, etc. . . I said I thought they looked fine . . she is hardly FAT . . . yes maybe larger than HS years but she's 40ish and face it alot of us don't look like we did when we were 18. . . so now I'm feeling kind of bad, but simply don't know what to say really . . . I will post a couple of them so you guys can tell me what you think?? and be honest. . .did I just totally screw this sitting up based on posing choices??


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10/18/2005 8:06:44 AM

 
Constance Kessel
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/29/2004
 
 
  lexi and todd
lexi and todd
all photos at 200, 200, f22
© Constance Kessel
Canon EOS 20D Digi...
 
  hubby
hubby
how do u avoid the floating head thing? do you light a black background?
© Constance Kessel
Canon EOS 20D Digi...
 
 
© Constance Kessel
Canon EOS 20D Digi...
 
  lexi
lexi
lexi loves her cheapie little fairy wings...gotta get some better ones!
© Constance Kessel
Canon EOS 20D Digi...
 
 
okay...here we go again!!Still here....:) Recovering from concert hang-over...hehehe...a mom's gotta get out, right? Yes, this thread def helped with my studio! Sorry I haven't posted...Got a shoot for a 3 year old Thurs after school...Should be cool...gonna do the hay /overall thing...any other suggestions would be appreciated!! Thanks for the focusing tips...was having the same prob going to try the tips! Also, for those new to PS, if you soften a pic, amke sure you use a layer and go back to sharpen the eyes, something that took me a while to learn-I'm a self-taught PSer, so i'm still working on it. Here are a couple of pics from last week. Might have the oppertunity to shoot some concerts soon-that would be so cool!!


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10/18/2005 8:08:05 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
 
 
 
WELL,
I WOULD RATHER HAVE WAITED FOR YOU TO RE-POST BUT , I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK I AM NOT ANSWERING YOU EITHER.
YOU USE A BACKLIGHT ON BLACK ONLY WITH A GEL OR FILTER. SUCH AS I WILL POST HERE- AS IN THE CASE OF YOUR HUSBAND, I WOULD HAVE USED A BLUE GEL.
EBAY -REALLY CHEAP.
THIS WILL ALSO HELP BABIES NOT LOOK LIKE THEY ARE -FLOATING THROUGH SPACE-BUT INSTEAD GIVE THE APPERANCE THAT THE ARE POSED ON BLACK FOR THE EFFECT.


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10/18/2005 8:08:34 AM

 
Angela K. Harter   michelle, I think the pictures are good! and I don't think she looks bad in them at all... some people are just not going to think they look good in ANY picture, not even a head shot:) don't worry too much~they are good!


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10/18/2005 8:14:15 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Okay the Blue Gel looks awesome on the black . . . I could definitely use this for my shoot on Thursday . .. anything you can sub for a gel??? I don't have any. .. is this something that just snaps over the flash head??


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10/18/2005 8:34:05 AM

 
Delores Holloway
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/7/2005
  michelle,

the pictures of the family are fine.. it is not the pose or the pictures.. I think your first thoughts speak more to the issue than the pictures.. she does not like herself in pictures..


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10/18/2005 8:43:03 AM

 
Constance Kessel
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/29/2004
  michelle-i have to agree with angela-the pics are good-i really loke the last one. and you can't really see her body, and her face is not fat...Some peolpe just need some extra reassurance about they're looks. I don't think there is anything wrong with your posing either...take a deep breathe and relax...it's not you...don't forget, even if we do a awesome job, we still won't please everybody all the time!!

thanks debby, I will check out e-bay!!


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10/18/2005 8:45:46 AM

 
Debbie Vega
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/23/2005
  Hey everyone, I am still here I promise and have not left, my computer has been breaking down as and when it sees fit!!!
My new computer is coming today with a bunch of new software and high speed internet, cannot wait.... I have been following the thread though and think you are all doing amazing.

Laura, you have come so far I cannot believe it!! So proud of you and your pics are fantastic.
Debby, Ilove that blue gel, can I get those at a camera store and do I need the back light behind the backdrop of can I just aim it towards the backdrop? My space is alot smaller that I expected and am struggling to fit all these lights in. We are going to sell the futon thank god!!! Anyway, My computer coimnes today and I can get some pictures up. Will be back later....


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10/18/2005 8:48:53 AM

 
Sandy Landon
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/24/2005
  Michelle you did a great job!!!! She is just selfconscious! I know how that feels, I did a family shoot for my husbands whole family and I have yet to show it to them because I hate the way I look!!! She looks great! The poses are great!! No worries! Your work is fantastic!


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10/18/2005 8:49:50 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Thanks for those that have responded so far . . . I know they are nothing spectacular per say but I didn't think she looked bad . . and I know from my ownself in pictures how she is feeling so I can certainly understand what she is thinking. .. but I guess I know what I look like going into a studio or whatever so I kind of expect to look "how I look" too LOL . . . Did I mention this is my husband's cousin(and boss)? I left that part out intentionally LOL .. . I was not looking forward to the shoot either because I was afraid this would happen . . . do we say never do work for your own families. . . Anyway ... thanks for the encouragement. . .I guess I'll wait and see what she ends up doing . . .

My husband said .. . why did she bother even setting up the appointment if she knew she wouldn't like how she looked. . .


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10/18/2005 8:55:38 AM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
  OK...I go away for a minute to get some coffee & you all have switched on me...hehe..LOL!!!! GEEZ!!!! I will look at everyone's pics in a minute, BUT I wanted to tell you Michelle that I like the pictures. It is DEFINITELY hard to take pictures of people who DO NOT like theirselves in them. We are all our own worse critics!!! I personally really like the pics you took & she doesn't look HUGELY FAT!! For cryin out loud when you have children your body changes..THAT is just a FACT!! At least she has some family pics & if she chooses the cards to be with their 3 daughters then that'll have to be her decision. I think she is making a mistake choosing that way, BUT we can't change people's minds. My maternity pics I took of my bestfriend..the one holding the cat..She's having twins & since we've been in grade school that woman HATES her picture taken..ALWAYS has...I made her let me take her maternity pics..FOR one thing I can boss her around..heheLOL!! We're like sisters!!! For another I wanted her to have them to remember her pregnancy with twins & she had to go through A LOT to EVEN get pregnant & I wanted her to have some remembrance, BUT though I LOVE the pics..She isn't too impressed..THOUGH she'll put some in the girl's baby books, BUT I think she's beautiful & she's ALWAYS hated how she looks!! My whole point I guess in all that long rambling is we can't change how people see themselves. We can just give them the confidence they need!!!


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10/18/2005 9:10:39 AM

 
Jeff Dadey
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/14/2005
  Keepin up with the Jones' !!


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10/18/2005 9:20:08 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  ACTUALLY MICHELLE,
HERE'S WHAT I WOULD CHANGE-
#1) She should have liked this one but...
You could also have the daughter extend her elbow into her lap as you did with the one on dad's side,this would hide her more.have Mom rest a handon the daughters arm with hand on shoulder.(moms elbow would be at daughteds hand area)-this stuff is hard to explaine in type,lol.
#2: Please try to angle them more-They do look wideer then they should and this is what her VERY critical eye is telling her. *the pose is good but,angle Dad's right shouldertowards you and then Mom's left toward you -bring them closer maybe let them rest thier arms around each other(see they are closer and warmer)
Girl on Dad's side is good.
Girl on mom's side -right shoulder back more holding little sisters hand and angle her more she is flat in the portrait.(when you add warmth,people who are Real critical can be soothed by the warmth in the portrait)
# 3: Again taking the Daughter next toMom and streching her elbow into Mom's lap would hide Mom's mid-drift, and haveing dad holding her hand,these two differences will warm up your portrait and make it harder to say NO to them- MOM and DAD NEED to sit up straighter in this portrait, never let a subject of any wight sit fully on a seatand slump. sit them on the edge and straight this will make them look thiner.
I thoink you did a very good job , but these things may help,
Debby


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10/18/2005 9:28:10 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Thanks Alisha. .. I know what you are saying ... I guess I just needed some reassurance if perhaps I could have posed differently .. . that is one area I struggle with the most . .. I hate my picture taken too for the most part LOL . . .

BTW. . . and not to change the topic really . .. but I'm from Kansas and know a few where a few others are from but what about the newbies here. . . ??


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10/18/2005 9:32:14 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Thanks Debby for your help . . I understand what you are saying .. . on the third one the are we were in wasn't the easiest because of the pond thing behind them . .. but I liked the rock area. . . I think that is the hardest for me is to create that "warmth" because people tend to think it looks goofy .. . I did have them angle inwards I thought but it just wasn't enough. .. people become soooo stiff when it comes to posing LOL . .. thanks again for your help. . .


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10/18/2005 9:48:43 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Yes they do Michelle,
and it takes some time to get used to ,
This stuff is also easier to teach in the workshops, but...
I usually say something like " ok guys were going to angle you a little bit heres what i'd like you to do , Mom bring that shoulder towards me and Dad would you bring that one also toward me, how about you move a little closer and put your arms around each other, common like you LOOoove each other." they usually laugh and start to loosen up and thats the BIG trick to posing -
getting people to loosen up!
Some say I'm a goofball-ok-I got this way by playing with my clients and the more I yap and keep thier minds off what i'm doing the better the pose is coming out-
Laura, DO NOT LAUGH-
I used to be very shy,really,but my Job requires me to get the most out of my clients, so now they are just
"my dolls" and like any kid,
I talk to my dolls and twist them into the funniest positions that look great on film.
I do hope this helps,
Debby


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10/18/2005 10:03:06 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
 
 
 
Ok, Ok witch one of you dirty rats -Sniped my cloud background from me??
lol,lol,lol
I love sharing with you guys but I knew when it came to these backdrops, I should have waited until I got all the ones I wanted first!,lol
I posted the Sniper on my Ebay Store to help you guys win your auctions and heres what happened:
I set my snipper for this back drop, then DID NOT worry about it-
I GOT SNIPPED!
so whoever you are -thats ok, I am glad we helped ya out -BUT , I BETTER see some potrtaits posted with that on here.,lol,lol


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10/18/2005 10:31:10 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  OK and here is the link for any of those who did not get it the first time.
(oh and I do see this as a fun game, that I need to win now and then-I will snip ya back,lol)

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZwalls*of*artQQhtZ-1


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10/18/2005 10:46:21 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
 
 
BetterPhoto.com Editor's Pick   Dreamy Newlyweds
Dreamy Newlyweds
This photo was taken in Savannah, GA. The couple is extremely romantic and this shot just seemed to call out for that dreamy effect. I used the Dreamy filter offered by Optik Verve.
© Liza M. Franco
Sony Cyber-shot DS...
 
  Hold You Forever
Hold You Forever
© Liza M. Franco
 
  On The Granite Steps
On The Granite Steps
© Liza M. Franco
 
  United
United
© Liza M. Franco
 
 
Woo Hoooooooo!!! I got back from Savannah late last night and am thrilled to see a part 5.

Gosh you guys, I'm going to have to spend days catching up on all my reading, ya'll have been busy since I left.

I spent the most incredible week in Savannah with friends who are one of the most romantic couples I know. We had a blast doing wedding portraits and I want to share them with you.

I missed all my BP buddies while I was gone.


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10/18/2005 11:01:39 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Thank God you got home,
I was worried but did not call this morning because I didn't want to disturb any one,I just complained to Laura that I was worried.
And Liza ,I tried to stop 'em from thread 5-I didn't want ya to get lost-but NOOO they insisted!-but they were right in the end -you didn't get lost-you found us.lol,lol
Welcome Home!!:-)


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10/18/2005 11:08:35 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  She was so worried about you that she didn't even call me back!!! LOL! I have to put the kids down for naps, but Debby, call me when you can in about a half hour or after. THANKS!!!!!


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10/18/2005 11:37:51 AM

 
Cyndee Wanyonyi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/7/2005
  Wow :). This goes really fast. That whole thing with the black backdrop...good to know you people don't use a Backlight on Black. I could have used that info awhile ago, but it is good to have it now!

Off the subject...my black backdrop gets very dirty (shows white specks and stuff). Do y'all clean it before others come in (it seems to look terribly unprofessional when it's dirty, but it would be impractical to clean it every time..especially since drycleaning is recommended)?

Liza & Debbie,
I am still trying to get a class together sometime. I have one person interested...I do not know that many other photographers. I am taking a class here pretty soon, so I hope to find more!
Cyndee ><>


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10/18/2005 11:40:10 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  ok,-ring my phone when you have the time and
i'll call ya right back-since my phone has blocked your calls,lol,lol,lol????????


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10/18/2005 11:41:41 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  you know we should all IM on yahoo.com
Liza and I both yahoo-do you,especaily you Betsy!


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10/18/2005 11:42:49 AM

 
Angela K. Harter   well, ladies, I just had my first real big OOPS and wanted to share.... I flipped a picture and the mother loved it...i loved it! but niether of us realized that the saying on his shirt was backwards now!!!!! so I just got my mpix order and noticed for the first time! now I have to try and fix it (it was in a collage) and order another! hope my other shoot wants to order soon!!!!! hate paying the shipping for one...luckily this mom is a great friend of mine and has been with me from the begining so I know she won't be upset:) just glad it happened with her and not someone else!!!!


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10/18/2005 12:19:55 PM

 
Connie J. Turner
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/22/2004
  Hi everyone, my name is Connie and Laura pointed me in this direction, I was reading over some of this and I had no idea it had so many great ideas in it. So I would like to jump on board!
Angela, I never even thought about wording being backwards on a shirt. Thanks for sharing that!!


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10/18/2005 1:22:03 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Hey welcome Connie,
but life sucks for ya , because now this monster of a thread is 5 pages long- and I hear your so busy these days you may not find the time to read them all,lol
I hope you stick around and between the kids,the husband and your 2 jobs,you get the time to enjoy this thread.


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10/18/2005 1:28:06 PM

 
Delores Holloway
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/7/2005
  welcome connie,

i'm new here too..
lots of knowledge here.. enjoy..


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10/18/2005 1:36:26 PM

 
Connie J. Turner
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/22/2004
  Yeah, I am a little busy with the Studio, kids and we have a glass shop and I help out with paper work occasionally. But I still love my computer time. Thanks for the welcome, I'm still waiting for Laura to post the rest of those baby shots.
I have a question, does anyone have any ideas, for posing and 8 and 10 year old then a four week old baby together? I'm not really sure on how I'm going to do that? The eight and ten year old are boys and the baby is a girl.
Thanks


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10/18/2005 1:51:01 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Cyndee,
I am sorry I jave forgotten-where are you from?
and then just post it here- is anyone intrested in a Workshop in Cyndees state- it's amazing what pops up-then we recommend that you go to photo clubs ect. in other towns near you or so to advertise-sometimes local collages or camera stores will help.
thank you


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10/18/2005 2:48:09 PM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Hi guys,
Just catching up on the thread. I was wondering why my email box had slowed down so much!!!


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10/18/2005 3:56:05 PM

 
Constance Kessel
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/29/2004
  EVERYONE IS SO FAR AWAY! I'M OVER HERE IN CONNECTICUT. ANYONE CLOSE? I AM IN A CLASS FROM NYIP...WHEN I GET THE TIME TO DO THE ASSIGNMENTS! LOL I DEF LIKE THE GELS ON THE BLACK BACKDROPS. RIGHT NOW I'M USING A LARGE PIECE OF KNIT FABRIC I GOT AT THE FABRIC STORE. IT DOESN'T WRINKLE, AND WASHES GREAT IT DOESN'T SEEM TO CATCH MUCH STUFF.
HEY CONNIE! NICE TO KNOW SOMEONE ELSE SHARES MY NAME!
-CONNIE


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10/18/2005 4:16:15 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  WHERE in CT??? That's where I'm from! I'm out in Houston, now, but I grew up near Danbury!!!


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10/18/2005 4:18:39 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  HI CONNIE!! Welcome! (it's about time!!!!)

The rest of the baby pictures are up... they're in the client's proof area.


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10/18/2005 4:21:24 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  My mind is thinking in phrases this evening! SORRY FOR THE MULTIPLE POSTS!

I have the first 4 parts to the thread saved as pdf files for Adobe Reader if anyone is interested in reading at their leisure. I warn you, though, you can't print them, they're a book each! LOL! Good to keep on hand, though, so you don't have to go back and find the actual threads... Contact me through my contact link if you want them!


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10/18/2005 4:24:37 PM

 
Constance Kessel
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/29/2004
  LAURA, GREW UP IN EAST WINDSOR AND NOW SETTLED HERE IN MANCHESTER-ABOUT 20 MINS FROM HARTFORD...BUT WANT TO MOVE SOON...HUBBY WORKS IN HARTFORD SO WE HAVE TO STAY IN DRIVING DISTANCE!
DO YOU LIVE IN HOUSTON, OR JUST OUT THERE FOR BUSINESS?


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10/18/2005 4:29:48 PM

 
Constance Kessel
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/29/2004
  I SHOULD KNOW THAT LAURA, BUT SOMETIMES THE KIDS STEAL MY BRAIN AND WON'T GIVE IT BACK!


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10/18/2005 4:34:09 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  I'm VERY familiar with the area. I worked in Bristol and Torrington for a while and have family in Naugatuck, Waterbury and Enfield. We live here. My hubby got transferred here about a year ago. It's really nice here, but the 6 months of summer leave a bit to be desired! I'm homesick for Autumn in New England!


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10/18/2005 4:58:52 PM

 
Delores Holloway
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/7/2005
  laura oconner

i was back reading in thread 1..

was that really you trying to figure out f-stops and lights.. taking pictures at all of the hours of your husband? if that was you then you are what this is all about..
your -that was then and this is now- is outstanding..

congrats..


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10/18/2005 5:13:24 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Well, Betsy actually started all of this! She gets credit for that! But, yes, my poor hubby is "CH" (cooked husband) Thank you SO MUCH for your wonderful compliment. I forget to look back and remember where I was when this wildfire thread started! I'm STILL trying to figure things out with every shoot, but I'm much happier with the results these days, thanks to Debby's patience and terrific sense of humor!!! She's kind of my good luck charm now! :)


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10/18/2005 5:18:38 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  I don't have Yahoo but I do have MSN if anyone wants to chat that way .. . I love it. . . my screen name is KS4HMOM@hotmail.com

I'm so excited. . . I got my postcards yesterday from vistaprint with my Baby's First Year Package info on it . .. I sent it yesterday to a mom who had a baby in August and she called tonight to set up an appointment . .. wooo hoooo . . .


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10/18/2005 6:44:52 PM

 
Debbie Vega
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/23/2005
 
 
 
Hey everyone, I am truly back now, my new computer is up and running and I really feel part of the technological world now, I love it! So now I am owrking on some pic that I have taken of my little one sophie with the lighting set up debby and laura talked about and it's working great. I have to work out why the reflection of the light is in her eyes, are my lights placed wrong? too close or do I have to fix this in PS, I am not good at all with that and haven't even really ventured there but I guess it's upon me now..... I have missed chatting with you all but have been following.

Will be back in the morning....


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10/18/2005 9:59:35 PM

 
Debbie Vega
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/23/2005
  OOOPPPS, still haven't worked out to get pics in the thread... there are a couple of mess around shots of sophie.... a ways to go but practicing... by y'all


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10/18/2005 10:06:06 PM

 
Tina Edwards
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/12/2005
  Delores, I have done a birhtday party shoot before and I set up a backdrop in a non busy area of the room and as children arrived I would get a portraits of them and a few of them with the birthday child. This might be a little more difficult since that child is only 1. You should go early enough to get the birthday child by her/his self. Be sure to have some helium balloons in the shot it looks adorable. Let us know how it goes.

Michelle, I thought the family portrait looked great, I like Debby's idea on that, I will have to remember that. Overall I think they turned out wonderful and you hid her well with the children in front of her.

Debby, I am not the one that sniped your auction, LOL although I wish I were I like that cloud backdrop. Also thanks on the info about the black backdrop. That is my main backdrop that I use and didn't realize you could use gels with it. I have a gels and have never used them.

I just love this thread. Wooooh I am out of breath, I must be tired, its not like me to ramble. zzzzzzzzziiippp okay i'll be quiet now...LOL



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10/18/2005 11:12:44 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Laura. ..which ones are they in your gallery . . . Hammar????


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10/19/2005 5:01:28 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
 
 
 
Good Morning,
Michelle, if you go to Lauras web site, to gallery. then proffs, then click on Hammar.

Tina,
Now I'll be watchin ya,the next time,lol
and as far as the black background-you do not use a backlight on it unless it does have a gel-the backlight by itself washes it out.
Laura here is a child of very dark color with the Black with red I had talked to you about, before the Maturnity shoot-took forever to find him and he's in my gallery,lol,lol


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10/19/2005 5:28:41 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Debbie V., I think the reflection you mentioned may be what is referred to as a catch light. If you have that then you've done well, keep it don't get rid of it. If you have a nice little white dot of light great, if you actually see a soft box or an actual light stand showing up, then I would remove it in PS.

Catch lights are something many photographers try to capture because they bring life to the eyes. Try it out in PS. Make a duplicate copy and then fix the reflection, compare it to the original. Many times photographers go to the extent of adding a catch light for that little extra touch. Its kind of like a twinkle in the eye.


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10/19/2005 5:34:57 AM

 
Connie J. Turner
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/22/2004
  I'm a little nervous,
In a few weeks I have a ten and eight year old and then a four week old baby. I have no idea how to pose them as a group. Can anyone give me any ideas? Pleeeeeeeese??


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10/19/2005 5:39:28 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Actually, Hamamr was my last shoot. Rabinovich is the current one! Let me know what you think!

I'll be trying to catch up to you guys this morning, then I have to go out and get groceries! Kids hafta eat, I suppose!! LOL!


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10/19/2005 5:39:39 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Liza,
Good Morning!:-)you are up and so quick this morning!
I went to get Greg OUT THE DOOR(he's into my BP time now) and got back and you had already explained to Debbie.
I hope you have a great day!
Connie,
call me ,you can get the number from Laura or email me.
Laura,
are ya up-got coffee?......


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10/19/2005 5:54:20 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  WOW Laura those are AWESOME. . . #3 and #11 are my favorites. .. How old was this baby??? I mentioned doing another 3 month old next month . .. they are western kind of people . . . so I've cowboy hats, boots and red bandana's in the plan for his shoot . .. I like the way you did the basket Laura . . . I have a basket just like that and hadn't thought about stuffing it full of towels to put them on . .. did he have just a normal diaper on . .

Does everyone do proofs in 4 x 6 format?? I do 4 x 5 because I hate it when they are "surprised" when part gets cropped off due to the enlargement. . .but I also do 4 x 5 because if they then go to Walmart to try to copy it they won't get the same size. . . and it will either have a white border or they will have to stretch it to fit a 4 x 6? but I was just curious ... a few people I have given 4 x 6 for because it just looked better but I was just curious. .. Plus I do my proofing via CD so if they try to take the CD to somewhere the same will occur as far as the format of the picture. . . plus I put PROOF across the picture in the middle. .. I tried it along the bottom but had one that was able to crop it off. .. :-(

Also Laura. . . did you use studio light or window light for those baby shots? they look VERY natural . .. I love them!

Glad to hear you are back in the technology world Debby . . you'll be zipping right along now . . .

Thanks for the comments Tina . ..

As far as the family goes . .. I know they are acceptable . . .but it was just nice to hear that it wasn't a HUGE error on my part as far as the posing . . . I know I need to create warmth in the family photos now so that's my next goal . . . I have a sitting on Sunday so that will be what I work on with them .. they will be a fun family though so I'm anxious for that . .. I'm hoping to set up a haybale backdrop . . . and put an old rustic wagon wheel in it somehow . . .I also bought some split rail fence. . .but it's much bigger than I had anticipated so still trying to figure out how/what to do with that . ..

I've got a senior boy tomorrow . .. and it's supposed to rain grrrrrrrr

and then on Saturday I have two little red headed girls that she wants a fairy theme for .. . and then they are wanting family pics too with KC Chiefs stuff. . .

oh my where will I find time for all these proofs LOL . . .

Oh and those gels.. . I have to get some . .. I will need one of those holder things for my backlight right?? and then the gels are little square things that are colored???? I kind of looked on ebay but wasn't sure I was looking at the right thing . ..

I will also need to get a bigger black backdrop . . .all I have now is felt and it's only 60" wide. .. which for headshots will be fine . . . but for other stuff the extra width and length will be nice. . .

Okay . .. Off to Ebay I go . . .


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10/19/2005 6:23:11 AM

 
Angela K. Harter   Laura, those are very good!

Michelle, I have been printing up a sheet with almost a wallet size proof on them and I put proof over them too because of them being able to copy them...i don't have a web site yet so I can't post any where on line....and I don't want to email them because I know how easy it can be to put it on a cd and play with it and get what you want:)

another question I have is how do you all do order forms???? I have been working on one but I just don't like it!

and I am going to post some pics I did and would love to get some advice....Debby, I saw where you said you were a little shy at first, well, I guess that is me:) never really thought so till after this shoot but it was hard to get them to do something that I know would look better! anyhow, any and all, good or bad, opinions and suggestion will be GREATLY appriciated!!! thanks all!


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10/19/2005 6:48:28 AM

 
Angela K. Harter  
 
 
forgot the pics:)


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10/19/2005 6:48:57 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  OK Angela,
you did a fine job but these just need some different poses,
POSE #1: Dad and Son are fine -Mom is flat and girl is just a head.Here's how you can fix it.
** Looks like Mom is short -so with out being there to see what we have to work with ...Best I can Offer:
Stand Dad where he is -sit Mom on the fence Leaning on Dads left side,legs on the oppisite side of fence and twist her body towards you -Daughter, sit on fence next to Mom,her legs on your side of the fenceangled towards dads side of portrait- Son , sit on fence on the other sid eof dad and his legs are also on your side of fence and angled towards Moms side of Portrait.
Dads arm around son.
POSE#2:
Have everyone sit up.Dad should be on the other side of the fence, between Mom and the kids.hand around Son.

I do hope this helps, the one of two on stairs is in to much shadow an dsitting back to far- Please try to remember backs straight,
and the BIG RULE in portraits, is if it is uncommortable it's a good portrait!!!


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10/19/2005 7:09:19 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Okay Angela. . . I"m far from a posing expert . . but I have found that sometimes I learn the most when I take the time to offer a critique and really think about how I would have done some posing . . it seems to stick in my brain better LOL

On #1--the sun is kind of harsh on dad's face. . . was it coming from the side I see some sun on the little girls shirt too so it's kind of hard for me to tell the direction . . and the little girl . . . her body seems to be cut off with the rail right under her chin .. . I think this is where some kind of stool or something for her to stand on would have been good to raise her up.

#2--I like them really well in this pose. . but I think I would have put dad at the back where mom is or put him behind the fence so that he is behind the boy. . . being the largest person in the family he tends to kind of cover up the little boy.

#3--this one works. . . maybe just not have them have their knees up since it appears like you are shooting up towards them?

#4--I like this one

Again these are just my thoughts . . . Debby probably has much better thoughts for you . .. I just hate sun LOL . ..

as far as order forms . . I have one but still feel it needs to be better. . . but it works for now. . .I just do it in Microsoft Word I think!


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10/19/2005 7:13:57 AM

 
Angela K. Harter   thank you both...this helps to hear it (or read it:))...practice, practice, practice!!!!


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10/19/2005 7:16:09 AM

 
Debbie Vega
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/23/2005
  Hey everyone and thanks Liza for the imput. The reflecting light I was referring to are in my gallery so you can see. Any imput would be apreciated. thanks.


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10/19/2005 7:22:29 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  HI Debbie . . I like the one light scene one . . it makes it look like natural light. .. as for the reflections I'm not sure on that .. . I'm still learning the "catchlight" think myself!


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10/19/2005 7:32:58 AM

 
Debbie Vega
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/23/2005
  Thanks Michelle, I am still learning this whole photo thing but debby and laura were real helpful and the lighting is working great, just trying to find a way to fit everything in my room. I am loaded with a new computer so this is my latest addisction, I love it!....


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10/19/2005 7:53:23 AM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
  OMGOSH Laura...I FINALLY had a chance to look at your baby proofs. THEY ARE SOO CUTE!!! I love them!! He looked like a HAPPY HAPPY baby!! Great work my friend!!!:):) I'm sure mom loves them!!

Michelle...I was wondering or anyone but do you think it would be ok to do 4x6 proofs to give to clients but write PROOF over the middle of the image..NOT BOLD where they can't really see the pic, BUT lighter where they still can't copy the proof!! I've seen the professional places in my area do that. What do you all think?


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10/19/2005 8:43:07 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Alisha . . . I think 4 x 6 proofs are fine as long as the customer realizes that one some where the subject fills the frame alot that there will be some cropping if ordering in an 8 x 10 . . . which is my primary reason for showing the proofs whether in print or on CD in that aspect ratio. .. when I do my proofs I batch process in PSE 3.0 and put PROOF across the middle in white usually and then just lower the opacity on them . . . this allows them to still see the image. .. I know some photographers just put the copy right symbol with a lower opacity © . . . the only thing I wish is that I could select where I want the watermark placed. .. it only gives 3 choices but I have just found that I have to put PROOF or something on them because even the ones you think you can trust are printing them off in some form or another. ..


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10/19/2005 9:03:20 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
 
 
 
Here is a shot we were talking about:
I keep baby blankets with the pillows in blue, white and pink for these crib shots


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10/19/2005 9:08:33 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Oh by the way- that is a white background with a blue gel.
you can use any color gel to get any color you would like.
I am trying to find the one I took of three boys- the backdrop was white and I used 2 backlights-one on each side of the posing table, one with a red gel the other with a blue gel-they were facing the background but pointed towards the outer sides of it so the end result was red , white and blue.


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10/19/2005 9:25:36 AM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
  Thanks Michelle! I am going to start doing that cause even ordering with mpix & they put the copyright law thing on the back of the pics I know people still will try to copy them & I think it's VERY easy to copy them cause all the people have to do is lie & Sam's & Wal-Mart & whoever else will still copy them. The REASON I suspect this is because the maternity pics I took of Zach & Nicole I took a CD to Sam's Club to copy some pics really fast cause I needed them that day for Kelly to take to their family reunion & so when I went to pick them up the lady checking me out asked me for a copyright release & I said..I don't have one cause I took them. She said.."oh ok"...HELLO!! ANYBODY then can say.."they're mine..I took them"!!! SOO it started making me think..that was too easy so I am wanting more security that no one can copy them without my permission!! NOW that I keep rambling...here's another question. As for the collages go do you make 4x5 proofs of them for the clients to see? How do you do that if you do? Cause I size mine to 8x10 or whatever to fit the pics I want & if I go back & resize to 4x6 or such it will cut off some of the image. If I size as 4x6 & then make the collage then it'll be too small & I can't fit the images & do the design I want. THANKS for all your help!!!

Debby..was that intended for me? THANKS if it was. I have been searching for baby blankets, BUT haven't found any that catches my eye of liking...SOOO when I leave for Colorado tomorrow & I'll be there for 11 days I'm going to Hobby Lobby & such stores to look!!! I don't have a Hobby Lobby here in Logan & we do have one in Grand Junction. I'll have to see what I can come up with!! Thanks always for the help & suggestions!!!


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10/19/2005 9:28:07 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Target stores used to carry them-lol,lol I am glad that helped you ,Laura and I just happened to be on the phone talking about crib shots so I posted one,lol.
really glad it helped.


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10/19/2005 9:36:52 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  WOW! Ok, let's see if I can catch up a bit...

Michelle, All the baby pics are with studio lighting. THANKS for the compliment, though!! Sounds like you're REALLY busy! GOOD FOR YOU! Also, the black backdrop... for a cheap solution to a bigger black bg, try two king sized sheets. That's what I use. Connie Turner actually sewed them together for me, but you could use on on the stand and one on the floor.

Angela - THANKS! I use an order form that I am changing as I go. Just figure out what works and what doesn't, change it with every order if you have to, and you'll get a perfect form for your needs!

Debbie - I'm glad your lighting situation seems to be solved! DEFINITELY keep the catchlights...they look PERFECT!

Alisha - THANKS LADY! The mom does love them, she said they were exactly what she wanted. Whew! Now for another maternity shoot tonight!

Debby - Thanks for the call and for the post! I really appreciate your time and honest opinions!!! I need to get those gels! CH probably threw them out with the packaging on my lights...if they came with my set, they're no where to be found!

Connie T: try to call Debbie for posing ideas. I'll try to come up with some ideas, too. Call me later.


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10/19/2005 10:59:26 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  WOW Laura. .that lighting is awesome . . . I have a black sheet . . .but I don't like the way it looks . ..it's not true black . . I"ll use the felt as long as I can . . I bought it super duper long . .. but as I add to my "stuff" I will just add a black backdrop in there as well . .

On my collages. . . I don't make proofs for them . . . because it's too hard to see the detail for them . . .so they have to actually see them on a CD or from my gallery . .. or I email them to them . . . I rarely make one in an 8 x 10 though . . . I usually make an 8 x 12 or an 11 x 14 and then the 15x5 ones as well . ..occasionally I will make one a 10x13. but I'm trying to just develop a style with them so I can keep my pricing consistent on them.

The collages I save at the cropped format as a PSD File . .that way if I want to make changes I can. .. I usually have to upload them as a JPEG because TIFF files can cause me problems when the files are that large. . .

As for the rest of my prints. . . I save them all as an 8 x 12 TIFF FIle and then when I sent them the proofs I just crop them at an 8 x 10 format and save them in a proof folder ... I try to find out ahead of time what they are thinking in terms of size they want so I make sure I'm saving large enough . .. I then go in and lately have been uploading the sizes I need individually so it saves me time on MPix. .. I size my wallets at a 5x7 image and then I can print my 5 x 7 from it as well as the wallets. .. and my logo looks good on both . .. when I tried to print wallets from an 8 x 12 the font for my logo was too small. . . if you save as an 8 x 12 though then you can print anysize up to that from there if you like without having to worry about additional cropping such as the case of trying to print a 4 x 6 from an 8 x 10. It can get confusing . .. but I've found it just works best even if it is a bit more work and more uploading . ..

I might have misunderstood you on the logo thing Alisha. .. if you are wanting to add it for print purposes I think you would be better off to add it photo by photo . . . unless your program lets you place it where you want it specifically .. . but for proofing the batch thing in PSE 3.0 works great!

For those of you who use MPix. .. they have added a few new holiday templates to their selections . .. some very nice ones too . . . that gave me an "excuse" to call the mom of the family pictures that didn't like herself in them . . . she did comment that she liked one of them more than the others but her one daughter seemed a bit pale. . .so I went in and made adjustments to them and emailed her the file. . . hopefully she likes it better and will order the whole family on the cards instead of just the girls . . . Which brings me to another observation . . . this girl does have naturally pale skin . . . and then to top it off she chose very pale clothing to wear. .. clothing choices are so difficult to come up with for a group(speaking from experience) . . . but as I look at the pictures I noticed that neither of the younger girls wore much color and the mom is kind of pale herself and wore little color sooooo I know it needs to be something subtle and blend but I think the colors need to compliment them as well . . . does all that rambling make sense? LOL

Okay .. I think I'd better send this before it gets wayyyy tooo long!



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10/19/2005 11:26:48 AM

 
Constance Kessel
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/29/2004
  Laura-thats so cool....let me know when you come to the area to visit-maybe we can get together!!
your baby pics are awesome!!I love them!
Anyone have aol AIM for instant messanger?
I have my 3 year old boy shoot tomorrow...hoping it'll go well...going to do a fall theme and then maybe a xmas theme...and moms always love the close-ups! Anyone have any other suggestions? I want to make sure I don't run out of ideas for poses to soon.

Also, thanks for the proofing questions. Info is really helpful....My friend works at Ritz and says that stores can get fined big time for copyright infrigment...So if you know of a store that'll print copies without a letter, I'd say something to them, and tell them next time you won't be so nice. I have yet to figure out what I want to do about that...so far I have just stamped on the back...but I've only had one wedding and a bunch of family and close friend stuff! I've heard of proof cd's that are re-sized down so that if they try to print off it, the images will be bad...but some clients like to see prints-so still figuring that one out.
I've been doing forms in microsoft publisher-and changing them as I go, until I figure out excatly what I need, but haven't had to use to many yet.
Thanks for the crib shots...It gave me a awesome idea wothout having to spend any money!! Sometimes having kids comes in handy!!


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10/19/2005 4:52:32 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  I am considering using one of those websites that you put albums on for proofing I set up my account at photosite.com(I think that's it) but I just signed up for the free version for now . .. it's like $70 for year for the highest level . . . but I still run into a few people that don't always have easy access to a computer. .. and I would hate to lose a client because of that .. . but I think it's one of the safer ways to go . . .


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10/19/2005 5:05:40 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  I'll do that, Connie K! Thanks for the compliment!!


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10/19/2005 5:43:30 PM

 

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  I use photosite for my website and love it.

check it out.

www.photographicsgallery.net

amber


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10/19/2005 5:51:29 PM

 

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  my password protected folders are at the bottom of the page and my public folders are in the recent shoots category.

might make it a little easier for you to navigate.

while you are there, check out the RJ and Heidi gallery.

Those are my kids! :)

amber


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10/19/2005 5:53:20 PM

 
Susana Ms Heide
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/30/2003
  Just found this thread!! Very helpful! I'll be looking our for any additions!


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10/19/2005 9:32:05 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Welcome Susana,
There are 4 other parts to this thread, we hope you will enjoy the company here.
Debby Tabb


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10/19/2005 10:06:33 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Hi, Susana! If you would like the other 4 parts, contact me and I'll e-mail them to you!

I just finished up my maternity session about an half hour ago! I'm too tired to do anything with the photos tonight. I took a quick peek after I downloaded...I think I got some good shots.

Talk to you all in the morning over coffee!!!!!!! LOTS of coffee!!!


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10/19/2005 10:10:00 PM

 
Ruben L. Wade
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/2/2005
  Hi Guys! Just Checking in.


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10/20/2005 12:07:57 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  HI all . . .

Laura . . .can't wait to see your maternity session . ..

I'm headed out in a few for my Senior Boy session . .. fortunately he's not wanting alot outdoors because it's rather chilly here right now . .. the area we are going to is kind of down in a valley so I'm hoping the wind isn't too bad. .. it's supposed to blow from the north and it's already kind of going .. . aahhhhh Kansas . .. gotta love it. . .

Well an update to my family photo saga. .. the mom emailed last night and ended up ordering 4 5 x 7 and wallets of the family and ordered a package of her girls and the cards with them on it . . . I still feel so bad. . . I just really don't know what to say to her. . . she has never said she just hated them but she never once commented on them . .. in her email she simply gave me the order and stated Thanks for all of your effort! The daughter didn't like herself in the one the mom liked the most so they went with a different family one! :-(
Anyway ... I guess it's an order and a job done but unfortunately I don't feel good about it . .. I'm just hoping that people that see the photo like it and will comment on it so maybe she can at least feel better about herself!


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10/20/2005 4:51:55 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Michelle, good luck on your Senior shoot! For the family thing...the only thing you could do to help the situation is offer them a free re-shoot, or cadidly ask the mom about them...other than that, just feel confident that they DID place an order AND still used the photo for their cards...if she really hated them, she probably wouldn't have done either of those. (do you have a minimum purchase policy? If not, they were not obligated to purchase prints at all!) Chin up, lessons learned, there will always be a client or two like that that is just not happy with how they look, move on to the next one knowing you WILL do a great job!! Don't let it rattle you, my friend! :)


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10/20/2005 6:52:48 AM

 
Debbie Vega
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/23/2005
  Morning everyone, just checking in.....


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10/20/2005 7:42:11 AM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
  Just wanted to tell you all good bye for now & I will return on Halloween Day. I will be in Grand Junction, CO till then!!! GOOD LUCK to you all on the finalist & winner rounds!!! I will try to use a computer when I can to view your galleries!! I can't wait to use my new camera in COLORADO!! BEAUTIFUL TIME!!!:):) I'll catch up with you all later!!!

Have a great rest of the month!!!

Alisha


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10/20/2005 7:47:38 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  BYE ALISHA!!!! Have a great time and be safe! We'll miss you!


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10/20/2005 7:53:21 AM

 
Angela K. Harter   alisha, have fun!!!! and take lots of great photos! i've never been there so I would love to see what it's like out there....


on another note...i was just asked to do a HUGE family portrait....probably around 25 to 30 in the family! but I have no clue on how to light all of them!!! one of them have a beautiful, huge fireplace that they have used in the past for the background and want to use again.... background is no problem but lighting is....HELP!!!!
do you go with the whole set-up or just one that attaches to your camera...never done indoor before, can ya tell LOL!!!


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10/20/2005 8:18:16 AM

 
Delores Holloway
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/7/2005
  off to do a family shoot in the park.. i'm really nervous... very nervous..

family of four with a son who likes to grin at the camera instead of smile..

say cheeeeeeeeese..


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10/20/2005 8:32:35 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Delores,
I teach Photographers and in my workshops, never use the words Cheeeese,purely for that reason though every mom feels like it assures her a smile.
You will find if you ask Mom to please give you a chance at a real smile and explaine how Cheeese makes the face look forced- I am sure she will be more understanding- I use things like : micky mouse, candy,Mommy , Daddy,stinky feet.
with teenage boys who are a pain - I use money or Bikini Babes!
hope this helps,lol,
Debby


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10/20/2005 8:38:45 AM

 
Delores Holloway
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/7/2005
  thanks debby, i'll try that...
catch ya' later with the results


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10/20/2005 8:41:36 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Stinky Pants works well for little boys!!! Ask Connie!! I got a little boy in her studio to smile in 2 seconds flat with that one!


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10/20/2005 9:05:41 AM

 
Susana Ms Heide
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/30/2003
  I agree about the cheese part being so overdone that it doesn't get a real smile anymore! I did a photo session just last week where the mom was quite "pushy" with "helping" the photographer and she said cheese over and over and over! I guess I should have taken a moment to explain the Cheese thing to her. I like to use "Spaghuetti" or "Candy" or anything that will come as a bit of a surprise words to the kids.


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10/20/2005 9:06:38 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  OK, Debby, ready to get this thread hoppin???? All these requests for family portraits for the Holidays are apparently coming in! YIKES Angela and Dolores! I just got a request for portraits on Sunday for 5 kids ages 7 weeks to 9 years. All in white shirts and jeans. Not "Christmasy" but for a Christmas gift. She also wants me to do the kids on the other side of the famly soon AND her immediate family probably at her home or mine on the stairs or by the fireplace etc. 3 sessions with 1 phone call!! She just needs to get a hold of her sister to book the other kids session, THEN she's going to book the family Christmas session. HELP!

I've had 30 first time visitor hits on my web site this morning alone from the ad I placed on a local baby and parenting web site, and the e-mails are coming in fast for info!!! Uh-oh!!! What'd I get myself into!! LOL!!! (OK, so I'm smiling and practically coming out of my seat with excitement, but ALSO terrified!)


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10/20/2005 9:11:07 AM

 
Angela K. Harter   congratulations! holidays are busy aren't they!!!! sounds like we all need some help! and I understand the excitement along with the terrified:)


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10/20/2005 9:23:17 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Well I'm home from my Senior Shoot . . .it went well . . although my lighting just wasn't on today . . . it was kind of cloudy which was good and I used the same settings as I did before making adjustments as needed and it was just a bit blue to everything . . . I think they are editing fine but I thought things looked so good in the LCD. .. he was a good sport and it went well . . .I think he'll be pleased. .. I have some in my gallery but they aren't displayed yet because I forgot to ask the mom for permission .. .so I emailed her and am waiting for her response!


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10/20/2005 12:34:17 PM

 
Michael E. Lanning
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/26/2005
  Hello agian to all.......Wow, go away for a job and I just miss out on sooooooo much. Nice fotos Michelle.


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10/20/2005 1:15:13 PM

 
Cyndee Wanyonyi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/7/2005
  Laura,
What "local baby/parenting" website did you place your ad on?
Cyndee ><>


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10/20/2005 2:41:56 PM

 
Jeff Dadey
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/14/2005
  Anyone know when the Finalists are "supposed" to be announced?


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10/20/2005 3:06:49 PM

 
Susana Ms Heide
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/30/2003
  They are "supposed" to be out by the 21st of the month, which would be tomorrow. BUT I am kind of doubtful it will happen before the weekend. Sure would be a nice surprise though :o)


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10/20/2005 3:38:38 PM

 
Jeff Dadey
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/14/2005
  Thank You Susana!


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10/20/2005 3:56:15 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Good Evening,
I had a meeting with Ruben and Paul from Digital Darkroom today- Ruben will be needing it for the type of business he will be doing.
However, something intresting for you all and myself came out of it...
Digital Darkroom hosts a site for Photographers called Photoreflect.com Here's the link: http://www.expressdigital.com/products/prstorefronts.shtm
****PhotoReflect.com allows your photography business to communicate, market, and SELL to your valued customers 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. It is the most efficient and effective way for your customers to order prints of those precious memories and special moments. Whether you are a portrait, wedding, school, sports, or event photographer, a PhotoReflect.com internet storefront is the perfect way to grow your photography business.
YOu also have the option to have any orders that come in sent directly to the lab of your choice,as the order was placed-then you get a check (less 15%) in the mail for all the orders sold-print jobs are already on the way.
Just thought I would share.


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10/20/2005 5:43:59 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Hi again everyone . . . the mom emailed me with permission to post so some of the pics are in my gallery . ..


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10/20/2005 8:39:03 PM

 
Tina Edwards
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/12/2005
  Desperatly seeking help. I did my photo shoot of a newborn and when I started my editing I realized my camera was on its lowest setting at 640X480 72 ppi. Can I safely increase to 300 ppi? Or do I need to just confess and see if she wants to reschedule and for it being my mistake offer her a free 8x10? I already give one free 8x10 just because it is a newborn session.

Thank you for your advice


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10/20/2005 9:38:29 PM

 
Cyndee Wanyonyi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/7/2005
  Michelle,
You've done a great job with your Senior photos. He has got some beautiful eyes! Wow!

Cyndee ><>


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10/20/2005 9:54:38 PM

 
Betsy Labuschagne
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2005
  Just checking in.


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10/21/2005 4:05:59 AM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Michelle, Your senior pics look great! No.21 is my favorite.

Tina, I am not the one to give advice on the resolution, but I think it might be hard going from 72 ppi to a good 300 ppi. I would try it though, using interpolation and see what happens. Just go in small increments. I am sure one of the other photoshop people on here can give better advice. Good luck!!


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10/21/2005 4:54:37 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Tina. .I'm not sure about your situation either . . .I do know that with my old Sony Mavica camera that was just like a 1.6 MP I could print 8 x 10 prints that looked good and my setting was not at the highest. .. I would take one of the files straight from the camera or do some editing but leave the resolution as is and print it at like walmart or something and just see how it looks as far as pixelation.


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10/21/2005 5:23:42 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Thanks Cynthia. . . his eyes are causing me some havoc. . . it was fairly cold yesterday morning and a bit breezy . . . he wears contacts and commented that they were kind of bugging him .. .but he can't see without them . .. and that bothered him also . . . so then when I got home his eyes look terribly bloodshot in some of them . .. his skin is also just rough. . .not really with acne but he's a freckly kid and just doesn't have smooth skin so it's not looking the best to me . .. I guess we'll see what they think when I get them done . . .IF I get them done LOL . ..I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed right now . ..I have a shoot tomorrow morning for 2 little girls who are going to be in their Halloween fairy costumes. .. and then the mom wants family photos too in KC Chiefs. .. I'm kind of at a loss for the fairy theme. . .I know she was wanting one where it looks like they are on water(flood filter). .. but I'm kind of blank as to what else. .. I think she is bringing a tea set and some stuff too to kind of do something along those lines. .. I guess we'll see once we get there. .. I"ll do some closeups and stuff too. . .


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10/21/2005 5:28:57 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Tina,
Most of what you will learn in this life is by trail and error, my suggestion,
make a copy of it-try changing the res to 300on the copy-it easy to do and PRINT!
there you go.
lol,lol,a great piece of advise , never be constrained by the walls of "you can't ...." by others until you have tested the boundies for your self.


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10/21/2005 5:52:29 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Tina I think my WHOLE LIFE is trial and error LOLOL . . . I truly have a difficult time reading and applying so for me to be able to remember(and learn) I have to just experiment and then it seems to stick more . ..


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10/21/2005 6:25:36 AM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Michelle,
Are you going to use that pretty pink backdrop from the ballerina shots. I loved that!!


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10/21/2005 6:30:25 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  I haven't decided Lynn. . . I have that one but I don't have a white fantasy cloth long enough and on those I used white sheer curtan scarfs and just blended the seam . . . I have a lavendar fantasy cloth and I have gotten in several others that I think I'll try to layer . .. I can't remember what color she said their costumes are. . . they are the irridescent kind though . .. I think one is lavender and one is light blue. . . I'm trying to get these Senior pics done first so my brain isn't thinking too good LOL . . .


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10/21/2005 6:41:17 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Michelle, I just got some great shots of wild mushrooms while I was in Savannah. They are really tight macro shots. While I was in Savannah I took photos of the brides little girl and place her in the mushroom scene. It was a huge hit with everyone there. You are welcomed to use my mushrooms if you want to play with it. I would send you a sample, but the finished photo is on the mom's laptop right now. If I can get it I'll post a sample for you. These are a great seller and parents never turn them down, they always want a copy of these. If you decide to do it, charge accordingly. There is a lot of work in this type of project so make sure you get paid well.


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10/21/2005 7:07:59 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
 
 
 
Hey Liza.. that would be AWESOME!!! there was someone who posted a mushroom on the MPix Forum board and I played with her jpeg and was thinking of asking her if I could use it . .. if you could send the mushrooms that would be so great! She is wanting some really neat and I thought it would be a good seller.. .

Here is the one I manipulated from the other forum . . . just messing of course!


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10/21/2005 8:01:34 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Michelle, I will send you the mushrooms later this afternoon. I want you to have a full size version and I only have dial up internet at home, takes forever for a large file. I'll run up to my husbands' store and use the DSL there so I can send you the giganto version. When I did the little girl for my photo she was dressed in regular clothes because we weren't expecting to do these, but its still cute.


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10/21/2005 8:36:09 AM

 
Tina Edwards
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/12/2005
  Thank you Michelle, Debby and Lynn. I will do as you suggested and go to walmart and make an 8X10 of one that is changed and one that is not. I don't know why I didn't think of that one sooner.. DUUH!!

Liza, if you don't mind could you send me that mushroom pic also I would love to try it out with my daughter. She is wanting to be a fairy for Halloween. Thanks I appreciate it.

OOH and Debby, Thanks again on the info about the gel lights. My mom is coming over Monday and I will try the gel lights on her. I'll let you know how it goes.


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10/21/2005 8:47:57 AM

 
Andrea Tuft
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/12/2005
  Hi everyone! I know I'm jumping in this tread about 3 months late. But I love to read it and and have learned a ton. But I have a favor- I have been on BP for about 4 months and the first month I got a finalist and I haven't got one since. I was wondering if you guys wouldn't mind checking out my gallery and giving me some pointers. I would really appreciate it.


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10/21/2005 9:46:01 AM

 
Constance Kessel
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/29/2004
  Hi everyone! my shoot yesterday went pretty good...i'm waiting for mom to ok posting them up here...but can't wait to get some comments on them.
Debbie, thanks for sharing the web info, I am looking to set up a web page...but am still looking into how and where to do so. Also, I went looking on e-bay for gels and couldn't find much. If anyone runs into the link, can u post it here? Thanks so much...

Welcome andrea...love your gallery...by the looks of things, you could give me pointers!!



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10/21/2005 10:17:22 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Michelle and Tina, I have sent a few different images that may be useful. There is one of a tree that I think would be adorable if you should get a little boy to pose like a little troll or hobbit. Its hard to find good ones for boys so I thought I would throw that one in just in case you ever have a need for it.

You can adjust the hue/saturation for a more pink and purple type look instead of a natural look if you need it.

These files are huge so I'm having to send them two at a time. Sure hope you guys aren't working with dial up like I have at home, they'll take forever to download. I'm at the hubby's store so I can use his DSL. Even this one is not cooperating very well, so I'm wishing you better luck with the computer than I'm having.

Have fun and let me know how it goes.

Well as I was trying to send these I got to mail failure notices. One was because of size and I'm not sure what the other was. I sent 4 messages, let me know if you received any of them.


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10/21/2005 11:05:19 AM

 
Delores Holloway
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/7/2005
  hello everyone..
recovered from the shoot on yesterday, my nerves did not calm down until I had backed up and looked at the pictures.. I think they turned out pretty good.. i'll let you guys judge..

debby, thanks for the cheese advise.. I think it worked...(i used candy)

michelle, I think the senior pics turned out well.. and I hope you have the smae luck with your shoot today..

tina, hang in there, I went to an event and shot 184 pictures in basic mode.. I thought I was going to die...should have known since I had so many.. but it never occurred to me .. I softened most of them to take care of the grain as they were enlarged.. the event was gone.... the client bought all but 10 of the 184 pictures, and loved them ta-boot...

i realize that since you are talking about an individual shoot, so the mistake may be more obvious.. I can bet this will likely never happen again to you.. good luck with walmart let us know what happens..

andrea, your photos look great.. keep on tyring.. never give up.....


ANYONE... WHAT DOES LOL MEAN? (SMILE)


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10/21/2005 1:11:53 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Laugh Out Load


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10/21/2005 1:29:25 PM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
 
 
 
Hi guys,
I was playing around earlier with some white seamless paper and was frustrated with the lighting results on the background. I have a 2 light set-up and limited space, so making the backdrop hot is a little difficult for me. I find that when I use the bright backlight, I get uneven lighting in areas and pretty much limit myself to headshots. Today, I used a large softbox as my main and umbrella for fill flash. It gave me somewhat even lighting on the drop, but the drop is dull looking, and has a color tint on some of the shots. I usually adjust for this in photoshop by playing with the exposure settings in the RAW menu, but this does not always give me a good result. I know that a lot of you guys on here are photoshop pros, and so my question for you is: Is there an easy way to go into a photograph and lighten the backgound to give it the high-key effect? I would like to find an easy way to lighten the background, so that I can do this easily for when I have a lot of shots. I love the white backdrop - it is one of favorites because of its simplicity, but it is so difficult to light properly. My sister and her fiance are visiting next week and I wanted to take some engagement shots of them using the white drop, so hence my frustration. Thanks!!!!!


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10/21/2005 4:16:02 PM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
 
 
  white  drop 1
white drop 1
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  white drop 2
white drop 2
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Oops - sorry! Guess I didn't sign in. These are 2 of the pictures, unedited.


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10/21/2005 4:23:34 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  HI! Just checking in. I have a lot of posts to catch up on. Another editing marathon has kept me from BP! I think my business is getting in the way of my hobby!! LOL! I hope all is well & I'll try to catch up on the thread over the weekend. I'm getting sick, so we'll see how that goes. I also have a back-to-back family session tomorrow afternoon...the one with the 5 kids and then two of the kids and their parents. We'll see if I even make it! I may need to have them reschedule. DARN!


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10/22/2005 7:20:53 AM

 
Susana Ms Heide
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/30/2003
  Lynn, one way to get that background fixed in Photoshop (and maybe it's not necessesarily easy) would be to use the magnetic lasso tool to draw around the area you want lightened. Then you adjust the contrast/brightness until the background is totally white yet the subject is not overexposed. This would be A LOT of work when doing many photos, PLUS sometimes the hair of the subject may have some background showing through which would be nearly impossible to brighten up in this way. Not sure which would be an easier method. Maybe someone else has a better suggestion :o)


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10/22/2005 7:39:04 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Susana is right, I've tried to do it that way and get gray spots in my daughter's hair when I do. You can try to use the magic wand to select these areas and brighten them, but that can be A LOT of work! You acn try metering differently or setting a custom white balance, both of which have been recommended to me in the past, but I haven't actually tried either, I'll admit. I try to brighten the entire pic in PS, but that doesn't always work out with the skin and any other white in the pic. I find this happens most when my subject is wearing white that is brighter than the bg due to being closer to the lights...the backdrop then looks gray to the camera. TRY to meter off the backdrop if you can and see what happens! Sounds logical to me...I'm curious to see if it'll work!


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10/22/2005 7:54:49 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Hi Lynn, I have another suggestion. I have to use this one quite a bit myself. Open your photo in PS and make a duplicate of your background layer. Adjust this layer so that the white background is the way you want it. Lower the opacity so you can see through it and have the background layer visible. Then use the eraser tool and erase the area where your subject is and the subject should show through from the background layer. Don't forget to bring your opacity back up. Flatten Layers and print.


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10/22/2005 7:57:58 AM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Thanks Susana and Laura, I'll try that! I get so frustrated when I do the white drops. I really love how they look, but the lighting is so difficult to get right. Laura, how many lights did you use on the pregnany shots with your white paper?

Oops - my little ones are waking up. Gotta run!!


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10/22/2005 8:00:22 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Lynn,
I really don't understand why the lighting is "so difficult"
If you'd like email me with a number and I'll cam you -free weekend min.s

anyway this should not be difficult.


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10/22/2005 8:12:58 AM

 
Susana Ms Heide
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/30/2003
  The easiest thing might be to purchase another light, one that will light up your background so that it's perfectly high key straight from the camera. I think a 3 light set-up (or even 4) would solve the problem. I use a Britek strobe with a 32 inch umbrella (white on the inside and lined with black). I got it online from Steve Kaeser.


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10/22/2005 8:21:38 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Debby, I think the reason why it's difficult for her is simply what Susana said...she only has 2 lights. When I use my backlight, I don't have that problem, but with only my main and fill, I get grayish...then in PS, if you lighten it, a lot of times it turns ice blue!


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10/22/2005 8:32:05 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Yes I understand that- but as discribed before-on white, 2 lights: use one as a main in the 5:30 - 6:30 position and 1 as a backlight.
this should do it for her.
on any other darker color she can use the lights as main and fill to get more coverage if a larger group.(though you will loose the depth with out the backlight.
with no main light,on white ,as I have said before, you will always get that greyish ,grainy color-though it is great for some shots.
and as far as uneven light on the back the back light with a barn door open all the way should give you pretty complete coverage.
then clase the sides in for the tradtional arch of light in portrait shots.


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10/22/2005 9:25:57 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
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no backlight


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10/22/2005 9:27:52 AM

 
Constance Kessel
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/29/2004
 
 
 
hi everyone...just posting a few pics from my shoot the other day. Please tell me what you think...I think I'm to critical....thanks....I have more too...just got to get them done....


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10/22/2005 9:54:06 AM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Thanks for all of the advice. I know that getting some more lights would solve my problem, but I was trying to get by with 2. That is why I usually steer away from the white drops. I just love how the bright white background looks. I haven't tried a barn door, so maybe I will try that on the backlight, instead of using a fill. When I have used a backlight instead of fill, I have used an umbrella, which works fine for headshots, but gives me uneven hot areas for full body or larger shots. I don't have a barn door at the moment, so I'll have to look for one. I was trying to do the cheaper way of using my existing lights and adjusting in PS, but I might have to look at some other options instead. Thanks for all of the great info!! I really appreciate it. Hope you are all planning to have a wonderful weekend!!!!


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10/22/2005 10:01:59 AM

 
Constance Kessel
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/29/2004
 
 
 
i guess they didn't load...trying again


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10/22/2005 10:07:11 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Debby, Yours looks like a lot of mine, but the white is still a bit gray. I think that she's looking for more of a BRIGHT white high-key look.

Lynn, if you are getting hot spots when using your fill with an umbrella, I think your light may be too close to your subject. What type/color umbrella do you have? If you are using an umbrella on your BACK light, this may be part of your problem. Point the backlight directly at the backdrop up at an angle. Debby, help me here, am I on the right track?


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10/22/2005 10:33:12 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
 
 
  (c) Lynn Snow Original & Whitened
(c) Lynn Snow Original & Whitened
© Liza M. Franco
Miscellaneous Does...
 
 
Ok Lynn, I thought I would try something with your photo to show you what I meant.
Duplicate Layer
Image>Adjustments>Brightness/Contrast
set at +54 and +16
Image>Adjustments>Levels
set Input Levels at 0, 1.00, 126
Then lower opacity so you can view the original layer and remove subeject with the eraser.

This was a real quickie job just to show that you can really brighten up that background. I wasn't very careful around the edges and didn't do anything to work with the shadowing below the pumpkins and your little cutie. These would both be areas where I would pay more attention if really working on a photo. But for sample purposes I think this is good enough to show what can be done.

Getting it the way you want with lights would be a lot less time consuming for you but equipment is expensive. So until that time comes, you still can save the day with Photoshop.


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10/22/2005 10:42:22 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
 
 
 
Well my shoot is over.. . it didnt' go as planned ... hopefully the mom is okay with it . .. the little 2yo would NOT cooperate. . no matter how much coaxing we did . . I did finally get a few of her and her sister together and a couple of her by herself . . . but she wanted mom to hold her the whole time . .. the family ones went okay . .. when I'd get the kids smiling the dad wouldn't be looking . . ARGH!!! all in all in the end I think we ended up with some they will like. .. (fingers crossed) it was myfirst attempt with all white using my new vinyl backdrop . .. and Lynn I'm thinking the third light is the key if you want white white . .. Here are a couple I did . . just adjusted basically the levels is all . ..


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10/22/2005 10:48:32 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
 
 
 
Well my shoot is over.. . it didnt' go as planned ... hopefully the mom is okay with it . .. the little 2yo would NOT cooperate. . no matter how much coaxing we did . . I did finally get a few of her and her sister together and a couple of her by herself . . . but she wanted mom to hold her the whole time . .. the family ones went okay . .. when I'd get the kids smiling the dad wouldn't be looking . . ARGH!!! all in all in the end I think we ended up with some they will like. .. (fingers crossed) it was myfirst attempt with all white using my new vinyl backdrop . .. and Lynn I'm thinking the third light is the key if you want white white . .. Here are a couple I did . . just adjusted basically the levels is all . ..


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10/22/2005 10:50:21 AM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Laura, you're right - I am looking for the bright white look. I am using a white umbrella on the backlight, so are you saying to use the back light without one, just pointing upward at the drop. I am wondering if a barn door would help me get a large area of lighting. I think I just have some limitations with 2 lights. Another light is definitely on my list.

Liza, That is exactly what I was wanting!!!!!! Thank you for playing with the photo. The bright white really brings the picture alive. I am going to play with those settings with my other shots. Thanks for taking the time to do that!!!!!

Michelle, I feel for you on the 2-year-old. My twins are 2 1/2 and I think I age about 50 years when we take pictures. LOL!!! They usually have their own agenda. For mine, I think it is also because they are so used to the process now, that they just want to run around and play in the "picture room". But, you gotta love their little spunkiness LOL! I am so anxious to see how your shots went with the vinyl drop.


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10/22/2005 11:09:12 AM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  You're fast, Michelle! You posted those as I was writing. Those look great!!!! The family is going to be really happy with those. That is exactly the high key effect I am looking for. What do you use on your back light - a barn door, umbrella, or something else?


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10/22/2005 11:13:53 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
 
 
 
Hi Lynn .. . on the ones where they are sitting on the stool I can just put the light behind them and flash it up and it does okay . . . on the ones of the laying or sitting on the floor I have to put the light off to the side or try to position it behind them(if they are sitting up to hide the light).. . when I do it off to the side though it's not even at all and I get some reflection back on to the kids . .. HEre's one more that I like the best except for the light bouncing back on the one little girl . ..


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10/22/2005 11:22:35 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Michelle, those look great! What camera settings did you use? Also, did you do ANY PS??? Your white is SO white!!! How do you like the Vinyl?


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10/22/2005 11:27:48 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
 
 
 
Hi Laura. .. the settings were f9.5 and shutter 1/125 or 1/90. . . I kind of had to adjust back and forth sometimes .. . the backdrop is kind of a cloth vinyl feel and I did have to do some PS just mostly levels to kind of get their color back a little . . . it still wanted to wash them out a bit ... I think I needed to move them further back but I was afraid the backlight would spill back onto them . .. here is one of the little girl . .. she was fun!


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10/22/2005 11:46:20 AM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  What a heavenly photograph, Michelle. It looks that that was a fun theme to do!!!


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10/22/2005 11:52:47 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
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  WOW! f9.5 would give me a pure white photo!!! I keep mine at f14 and higher. I drop down to f14-18 for my high-key white, and even then I need to brighten a little in PS, but any wider aperture and I'm TOTALLY overexposed. I would LOVE a boom to but behind/above me to let my third strobe become an extra fill. I've read several books saying for High-key put a third light (second fill) just above the camera. I'd be curious to see if it works.


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10/22/2005 12:10:18 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
 
 
 
Laura you goofball,lol
that post is with out the backlight- to show who the grey can add to some subjects.
how ever to get the bright white it will have to be in the maners everyone else has discribed.
Lynn, no the unbrella won't work on the back light- however you can still get away with out buying the barn doors(it just makes things abit easier) heres what you can do, if you have any gels(some list them as filters-though filters were tradtionaly what you put on a lens)you can use the white one that will come with the group as a difuser if needed(that is if you are getting to much light and the white is way to bright)just adhere it to the reflector with a small piece of velcro or magnets.
I hope this helps,
will post examples of no backlight , full backlight used corectly and tradtional


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10/22/2005 1:14:29 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
 
 
 
Laura you goofball,lol
that post is with out the backlight- to show who the grey can add to some subjects.
how ever to get the bright white it will have to be in the maners everyone else has discribed.
Lynn, no the unbrella won't work on the back light- however you can still get away with out buying the barn doors(it just makes things abit easier) heres what you can do, if you have any gels(some list them as filters-though filters were tradtionaly what you put on a lens)you can use the white one that will come with the group as a difuser if needed(that is if you are getting to much light and the white is way to bright)just adhere it to the reflector with a small piece of velcro or magnets.
I hope this helps,
will post examples of no backlight , full backlight used corectly and tradtional


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10/22/2005 1:15:25 PM

 
Melissa Farnsworth
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/5/2005
  Hi everyone! I have read all the posts and all I can say is WOW! I have learned more from this place then any class I have ever been in. Everyone keep up the great work and I enjoy seeing everyone's progress.
I have a question about props. When doing Maternity photos I would like to have one of those drapes that the mother wraps around herself. What kind of fabric would be best and how many yards? I really like how your maternity portraits come out Laura the mothers are beautiful! Have a great Saturday everyone!


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10/22/2005 1:16:26 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
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  Melissa, THANKS, first of all! I use black and white satin that I bough by the yard at Wal-Mart...6-7 yds at $1/yd!!! They have lots of other colors and types of fabric on that $1/yd rack!!

My latest maternity proofs are under proofs and Luna...fair warning, there are some semi-nudes. Don't look anyone, if you will be offended!!


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10/22/2005 1:23:48 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
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here's the examples:


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10/22/2005 1:25:17 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
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  OK..for the second one... What is your EXACT setup??? Where do you place the backlight and do you have a bare light or use a reflector? I always have my silver reflector on mine and don't always like the arch of light it gives. So should I take that off and use the bare bulb to flood the backdrop more???


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10/22/2005 1:39:32 PM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Thanks for the tips Debby. I'll try some more shots later today using a backlight without an umbrella. I don't have any gels at the moment, so I will try this with just straight light. I'm curious also how you did the 2nd photo, so thanks for sharing that info!!


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10/22/2005 2:04:38 PM

 
Constance Kessel
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/29/2004
 
 
 
sorry-having problems uploading today...is there anything good for backlighting besides barndoors?


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10/22/2005 6:29:39 PM

 
Constance Kessel
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/29/2004
 
 
  bw colored
bw colored
200,200,f16 work in ps
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  carter
carter
same
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sorry-having problems uploading today...is there anything good for backlighting besides barndoors?


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10/22/2005 6:39:42 PM

 
Constance Kessel
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sorry-having problems uploading today..


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10/22/2005 6:45:25 PM

 
Constance Kessel
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  xmas collage
xmas collage
ps and dreamsuite
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trying again....grrrr


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10/22/2005 6:57:39 PM

 
Constance Kessel
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/29/2004
  it doesn't seem to want to let me upload tiff files, but if I change to jpeg it works...weird...and I just noticed I have a typo in my copyright...what a day!!
gotta sleep!!
michelle love the lexi pic...its soooo cute...


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10/22/2005 7:03:05 PM

 
Lisa Carpenter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/8/2004
  Hi there. I am noticing that you guys mentioned Christmas cards. I am using whcc.com for my prints. I am having a difficult time figuring how I do cards through them. Is everyone here making their own? Using a template? I would love some direction. Also, do you give a package price for holidays?

thanks for any info!


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10/22/2005 7:47:00 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
 
 
 
Liza. . . I got the mushroom files ... thanks a bunch .. . sorry I'm late to respond to you . .. it's been nuts here trying to stay ahead and I haven't been feeling the best. . . not sure if it's the flu bug or what. .. anyway .. . I"ll play with them and see what I can do . ..

Here's another I did . . . the mom liked the flood filter on another one I did . . .


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10/22/2005 9:06:47 PM

 
Michelle Ross
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Okay .. Here's one I did a noise reduction on at the most extremes and then sharpened just the face . .. I was thinking of printing it on the metallic paper?? .. . what do you think?


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10/22/2005 10:01:52 PM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Michelle, the pictures of Lexi are stunning. They have such a magical feel about them. I haven't tried the metallic paper myself, but have heard wonderful things about it. BTW, hope you are feeling better!


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10/22/2005 10:11:49 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  On the 2nd portrait-the collage- the backlight with refletor is there- it is actually behide where thier lower legs are joined together-it took a few minutes to get it just right.


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10/22/2005 10:20:37 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
 
 
 
Okay . ..Here's the latest Collage. . .


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10/22/2005 11:41:54 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Hey, Debby! I went back to look at it and it's gone! Did you delete it?? Post it again for me??


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10/23/2005 6:53:01 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
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Laura, that is sooo wierd??
I didn't delete it???


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10/23/2005 9:50:44 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Laura,
Please let me know how the shoot goes and if the CD's helped you at all.
for the others I ran accross a thread today called " hobbiest for hire" basicly it's are they good enough to be a pro:
I thought my responce may help those of you -I hope you know I am sooooo PROUD of all of you who have ask:"what kind of lights do I buy " and the next thing I know-YOU HAVE CLIENTS!!!
*** This is something that comes up a lot- may I say : if you think your work is something of pro level-then try to sell some of your work or do a family portrait sitting and charge them a fee- Professional means you receive payment for your work.
You can take all the classes in the world -that won't make you a pro.
A PRO is someone who has honed thier skills in this artform to the point where it is accepted and desired by others who will pay for their work-does that mean every one else should shoot like they do?-NO- just means that they are persenting their work on a level that is desireable.
We have a thread going
"Studio Photography" where a lot of people have become successful in building a home studio and are useing them to make moeny an dget their Photography Buisness off the ground- does it mean they are still learning? YES! but they have also been successful in opening their studios and becoming Professionals in thier area. Does it mean the way they do things is the only way? NO. they were just taught (by mayself at times) the quickest way to get to the point of Quality results- will they go on to develope and HONE their skills ? YES!
and they are PROS, and haveing FUN, doing what they WANTED to do with their lives. Pro-I geuss it means "A person who has followed thier dreams, though others might have said they couln't and made a life!
I hope you will join us on our thread-watching them "RUN WITH THE BALL"... it is wonderful-there are 4 other parts though-were we all discusseverything from creating a studio in house or mobil to business practises and posing.
I hope this helps.
wishing you the very best in your ventures,
Debby


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10/23/2005 10:15:38 AM

 
Melissa Farnsworth
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/5/2005
  Thanks Laura for the info. I just looke at your latest Maternity shoot, and it is beautiful and very tasteful on the nudes. I took a fine art class before so I am not offended at all.
Michelle- that collage is gorgeous, I love the colors. The family should be very happy with that!


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10/23/2005 10:19:58 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Thanks Melissa.. . and Laura. .. ONCE AGAIN you did wonderful work . .. wow that is sooooooo great how you do that lighting . .. is that on the f22 setting??

The best of the ones I took of the little Lexi are in my gallery plus one of the sister. .. I forgot to ask her to put them on but I know her pretty well so I don't think she'll care. ..but if you go there and they are gone then you know she emailed me back and said no . . . I'm trying to upload to MPix so I can order these on Metallic paper.


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10/23/2005 10:27:18 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
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  HI ALL! Debby, The CD did help...but the client cancelled. I warned them about my sore throat yesterday and she called to say they were still going to come, but this morning she called and said her brother in law wasn't comfortable bringing the kids. They want to reschedule for two weeks from today (one of the kids is his step son and he only visits every other weekend). But by then, it may be a TRIPLE shoot. She said her sister and her kids may be available that day, too. SO... one session with the 5 kids, then with 4 kids on the other side of the family, then with the family of 4. What stinks is... I'm not getting any session fees and all of my prints are buy one get one free to start, so I'm not getting paid for my time at all! I can't wait for this promotion to be over! I haven't made hardly any money at all!!!

Thanks so much, Melissa and Michelle! I'm really happy with how my latest maternity shoot turned out!! The semi-nudes other low light shots were done with my main on full, also sometimes on half power, sometimes without the fill and other times the fill also on half. Yes, it was done at f20 or f22. I basically played with it all!

Michelle, great work on those! They should look great on the metallic paper. I've ordered a B&W and a Sepia print on metallic and they looked awesome. I got a paper sample pack from Mpix, and they have a pretty scene with two little girls, on with red hair, and it looks beautiful on metallic!! The mom will LOVE it!


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10/23/2005 11:40:52 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Thanks Laura. .. I got that same paper sample pack and those girls are so cute. .. I'm hoping these turn out . ..


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10/23/2005 11:54:52 AM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Hi guys, I realize this is probably pretty basic to most of you, but I have never made a collage before using PS. I would like to put together a business postcard with maybe 3 images and some text on a colored background. Does anyone have any easy steps they care to share. I have been sitting here reading the Adobe CS2 book and am now totally confused. I had been using Publisher, but wanted to try out Vistaprint, and they don't accept Publisher files. Thanks for any tips!!!!!


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10/23/2005 12:49:54 PM

 
Lisa Carpenter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/8/2004
  Did anyone have advice on the cards?


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10/23/2005 1:15:08 PM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Lisa, I've been using mpix and they have already designed postcards which are really cute.


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10/23/2005 1:18:48 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  So does prolabexpress I believe on both you can either use their templates or design your own.


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10/23/2005 1:52:31 PM

 
Debbie Vega
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/23/2005
 
 
 
Hey everyone, now my new computer is up and running, I thought I would chime in with a little medley of pictures I did of my little one this past week.

Laura, congrats of the maternity shoot, they are beautiful.
Michelle, congrats on your shoot, I think the pics look great.

Will be back later, my little one is waking up.....


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10/23/2005 2:46:58 PM

 
Debbie Vega
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/23/2005
  Ok yet again, I cannot work out how to get pictures onto the thread, I promise I will write it down this time of someone can tell me...thanks!

I put a little picture grid ofmy little one in my gallery if anyone wants to take a look.

Happy Sunday!!!


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10/23/2005 2:56:42 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
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  1. Size your photos to the 500x750 or 750x500 for web upload.
2. Sign into your gallery.
3. Come to the thread.
4. Post your reply, select the number of photos to upload.
5. Click submit.
6. Browse and select each photo in the uploader, add your title and any description.
7. Click Upload.

That should do it!

You always have to size the photos first, it's an old uploader, not the one that we use to upload to our galleries for some reason.

You ALWAYS need to sign into your gallery BEFORE you try to enter your reply to a post and upload, or it won't allow you access to the uploader from here.

Hope that helps!


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10/23/2005 3:33:20 PM

 
Michelle Ross
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Okay ...working on some pics from today's family sitting .. . overall I"m happy ... I am still struggling with my flash helping me ... we had sun popping through here and there so I was having to move them here there and everywhere and still didn't avoid it all . .. the color seem a bit dull. I set this up at my house and I like the overall effect but know now what changes I need for next time I use it . ..


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10/23/2005 4:37:37 PM

 
Michelle Ross
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Okay ...working on some pics from today's family sitting .. . overall I"m happy ... I am still struggling with my flash helping me ... we had sun popping through here and there so I was having to move them here there and everywhere and still didn't avoid it all . .. the color seem a bit dull. I set this up at my house and I like the overall effect but know now what changes I need for next time I use it . ..


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10/23/2005 4:38:49 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
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  Michelle-GREAT JOB!!!!!!!
these look comfortable and warm!!!!
I haven't looked really close, but so far mostly flawless!
such a great family group of Family Portraits.
thanks for sharing,
Debby


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10/23/2005 7:46:04 PM

 
Michelle Ross
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  Thanks Debby! That means alot for you to say that . .. we were literally trying to "THINK WARM" as it was freezing LOL . .. Anyway ... these were my favorite 3 . ..the sun was causing me all kinds of chaos and since it was at my house(my studio is in town) I didn't have alot of choices of places . . . learn as we go . .. I should be a pro at trial and error that's for sure!

:-)


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10/23/2005 7:57:36 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
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ok Michelle-I'm back.
Just looked again(I had to go make dinner as it was getting to be 8:00 and I hadn't fed the guys yet.sorry)
* pose 1 and 3 flawless!!!!! great!

*pose 2 this is the one I saw out of the corner of my eye and knew there was something -but it is a very common mistake you'll laugh but PLEASE don't say anything to them-something will probubly always bug them a little if they buy it and they most likely will the expressions are perfect.
both dad and son were in the feminine sitting pose "the little mermaid"pose.
the male version would have been to bring dads right leg up with elbow resting on knee-and sons left knee up with elbow resting on knee but still leaning into mom.
I teach this in my classes-I let them pose me as a man in a full body pose and they always do that-then when I change it and ask if they like it better-they always bust up laughing . and ss the difference.
other then that -PERFECT SET!!!!
* and a TRUE pro is a Master of the trails and errors! So , my friend your right on track,lol,lol.


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10/23/2005 9:13:18 PM

 
Andrea Tuft
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/12/2005
  Debby I have a question about that pose, the last two shoots I did the guys weren't flexible enough the bend one knee like that. Is there another masculine why to sit in a situation like that?


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10/23/2005 9:23:49 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
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  It's funny the only men I have met who could not get into that pose were either quite older or much younger.
The younger ones that said they couldn't sit like that -belive it or not-the probelm was handeled by just asking them to get up and pull thier pants up-when the crotch of their pants is riding really low-lol,lol almost to their knees-well their jeans won't let them bend.
* now, if you have a older man who can't get down like that -then in most cases it is really best to re-think the pose for saftys sake-if older he could hurt a knee or something.- I know mens poses can be difficult-
if your looking for some I can shoot some tommorrow of greg or my son and post the pose as it should be croped and then the full lenght shot to show how I got it? whould this help?


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10/23/2005 9:35:47 PM

 
Michelle Ross
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  I was going to ask the same thing as Andrea. . . this man just wasn't flexible and was having a hard time with the posing ... the knee up is my favorite but I was trying to do some things different and make him still comfortable . . . I will remember that though as "feminine" LOL . . .oh geez I can never tell them that . . .


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10/23/2005 9:39:19 PM

 
Andrea Tuft
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  I can't do it!
I can't do it!
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One guy was late twenties and the other 16 years old. I thought it was crazy I even sat down that way to show them. Here's a pic to show-


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10/23/2005 9:40:51 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  wow, ok guys then you just have to choose a different pose- maybe the ladder pose- or have him on one knee behide the wife sitting as feminine.
the guys you both had should have been able to do this-I am much older then either one of them and Andrea,I laughed because you sound like me " here guys like this..." and down I go-depending on how long the session has been tells you how long it takes me to get up,lol,lol.
ok got Matt up my 13 yr. old he was watching TV in bed-drug his butt up just to do man poses for you-when I post these were studio- improvize with outside shots-ladder, hay bales, old tires a tree stump-anything that says boy.they will post either in a hour or about 6:00am CA time.


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10/23/2005 10:10:16 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
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ok here are 5 basic male poses- guys may not be the best but it was 9:30 when we moved stuff and set the lights up.forgive us.


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10/23/2005 10:50:22 PM

 
Constance Kessel
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/29/2004
 
 
BetterPhoto.com Editor's Pick   carter
carter
200, 200, f16 and pse3
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Debby-thanks so much for posting the guy poses! its so helpful!! cute son, too!!here is another shot from my 3 yr old shoot-please tell me what you guys think on this...and the rest? Thanks!
Michelle I love the fam shots! I love the hay and wheel...what a great idea!


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10/24/2005 7:21:40 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  HEY Connie, K! I LOVE the shot! PLEASE don't take offense...The B&W looks a little flat to me, though. I've found that if I play with the levels or even just increase the contrast you get more definition with shadows and highlights and it increases the 3-D quality of the subject. If you have PS7 or CS, you can also play with the channel mixer turned to monochrome, adjust the sliders. Bring the red WAY down to like 50, then adjust the blue and green until you like them. Then using the Selective Color option, select the Black, White and then Neutrals from the drop down and for each adjust only the black slider to the desired amount. Play with it, it's FUN! I got these tips from another BPer that does some amazing B&W work.

I wish PSE had the channel mixer and selective color options! I DID have a "borrowed" copy of PS7 I was using, but it started crashing my computer, so my hubby got me PSE 4.0 for my birthday. I hated it at first, but now it's all I'm using, but I still miss curves and these other two options!!!!!


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10/24/2005 7:33:05 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Cute head shot Constance! he's all boy!
lol,lol.
you know I was going to wait until today to take some shots to do this for you and will get some other poses together-how ever in my home (such as in Lauras) I figuared I better do it right then while there were 3 men in the house and they weren't expecting a thing-
*well Greg came in from the garage (and caught me setting lights)and said"humm it looks like you gonna do some photos..." last I saw of him.he hid.
** Bruce, saw the set up and suddenly there was homework-I knew nothing about-sneeky little monster- but hey,it got done .
** Matt, is really the slower of the bunch and much easier to catch off gaurd- he "vegs on tv" (and they won't help him or tell him-because they know there is going to be a victum)
So I went in his room, he was in the bed watching TV(i had to say Matt twice-before he realized I was standing there???) I said hey can ya help me with something? and before he knew what happened he was on the stool.
lol,lol,lol
needless to say- in my hurry to catch my prey off gaurd-I forgot the back light, and the first couple taken were a bit washed , I had grabbed the camera that was still set for the golf turnament-
so maybe not the best but , you got the poses.and I got my victum,lol


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10/24/2005 7:35:44 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
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  LOL! LOL! LOL! Debby, you are TOO funny! Morning!


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10/24/2005 7:38:15 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Good Morning Laura,
but isn't it the truth!!!
I was typein' so fast -Liza is going to get a major headache from my spelling!
lol,lol Morning Liza,!!!!!


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10/24/2005 7:40:36 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Laura. ..Did you ever use PSE 3.0?? I was just wondering if 4.0 was similar. . . I need to upgrade my computer and was thinking of upgrading to 4.0 as well . . . I have a version of 3.0 that someone gave me that came with their wacom tablet or something .. . so I have no manual or anything . . . So I thought it might be nice to have 4.0?


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10/24/2005 7:42:08 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  No, I'm new to PSE. It apparently has some new fun features like adjusting your photo for skin tones! Pretty cool! It's NOT that expensive, especially with the upgrade rebate! Whe you buy it, you basically just send in your receipt with the registration info from your new and current versions and they give you like another $20+ off! I couldn't take advantage of it, but oh well! At least I have a legit version now that I can update along with windows so it won't keep crashing on me!


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10/24/2005 7:47:25 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  What kind of computer do you have Laura? As I said I'm wanting to upgrade. .. I was set on Dell . .. I have HP now but get tired of not being able to understand their customer service people .. . and I've heard Dell is the same way . . . so I was thinking of Gateway .. but I used to work at our High School and the Gateways there seemed to get lots of glitches. .. I think it was called
K-I-D-S Virus(hehe) but I was a bit leary. A friend and customer has a Gateway and that's what they have always used and said they work great. .. plus having Customer SErvice in the US. Dell just always has some awesome priced packages but I haven't checked with Gateway!


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10/24/2005 8:01:09 AM

 
Angela K. Harter   hi all! busy weekend....i get on here and there is at least 35-40 new posts!!!! what fun:) i've got some reading to do!!!

anyhow, was wondering about that flood filter....i love that effect!!! I have pscs (i believe:)) and wondered if you could tell me a little on how to do that....i keep playing with it but can't find that....


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10/24/2005 8:05:18 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  The flood filter was one I had to download from somewhere. .. I think it was flaming pear but I don't have the website any more . . . for me it takes the absolute right picture to make it work therefore I dont use it all that much . . . but it's nice to have. Since I have PSElements so many of the filters and things don't work with it :-(


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10/24/2005 8:13:18 AM

 
Angela K. Harter   thanks for the info!!! and by the way...i have a dell and love it! haven't had any problems with it at all...(if I have problems it's usually with my internet service, which I hate!!!)


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10/24/2005 8:21:41 AM

 
Andrea Tuft
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/12/2005
  Wow thank you Debby for going to all that work. I have learned so much from these threads. It's so nice how willing you are to help.


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10/24/2005 9:27:38 AM

 
Cyndee Wanyonyi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/7/2005
  ANOTHER WAY TO CHANGE LEVELS OF BW PHOTOS:

1. Go to "create a new layer" in the pallette menu & choose Levels. Click ok.
2. Go to "create a new layer" in the pallete menu and lower the saturation to 0. Click OK.
3. Go back to the levels layer that you just created and double click. On the top of the newly shown box, there are the red, green and blue channels. Adjust for red from left to right. Adjust for green and blue from right to left. I've found these adjustments are great for BWs. Such a difference. You'll never go back!

P.S. Studio shots for the first time this weekend. AT AN EVENT...my stinkin lights wouldn't flash all the time. I lost a few customers because of the time it took to make sure they were working...they HAD been working before...as soon as someone came up to the backdrop...no more lights. I will be posting some of these later to get some critiques. Come back soon...
Cyndee ><>
Cyndee ><>


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10/24/2005 9:40:11 AM

 
Cyndee Wanyonyi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/7/2005
  Could my flash delay if my camera's flash is in a different spot? Where does the camera need to be in relation to the strobes in order for the slaves to fire (right wording???)?


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10/24/2005 10:22:24 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Cyndee,
I honestly don't know why your having such a hard time ,I am sorry that you are-I think what it sounds like is that your aren't getting enough light to trigger them-why???? but here is a solution-Laura , had to do this and it seems to have worked for her,she doesn't seem to have problems,Laura??
Go to the nearest Phototorium and ask them for these little sencors: they will be about $6.00- those helped Laura, if they still don't help-you may need to go to radio controll units.
** please note-you can use lights outside but they maynot pick up the singal to flash in daylight.but a radio controller or more sensitive sesors will help.


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10/24/2005 10:41:50 AM

 
Glenn S. Bruno
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/24/2005
 
 
 
Hi Debby, It's Glenn, Glad to have made it.
Can't wait to start learning


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10/24/2005 11:20:46 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Welcome Glenn,
I am glad you could join us- hopeing all is well,
Debby


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10/24/2005 11:32:35 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  I guess I don't understand the light situation either . .. are the lights you are using Cynthia not plugged into like a powerpack thing?? I don't have a sensor I don't think .. .I just plug my lights in and they fire as long as the powerpack is on. . .


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10/24/2005 11:59:28 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  The sensor I have is an FS-330 Flash Slave Sensor System. It's just a little thing that I plug into the PC connection, it has a chord and the sensor is on the end of the chord, and even has a suction cup to hang it if you have a place to hang it. WORKS GREAT and it was CHEAP!

Well, I went to the ob/gyn office to check out space for them to hang my prints. The nurse midwife/mom-to-be is SO extatic about the portraits. Wants to hang a 16x20 framed collage in her office, have a proof book/album on her desk and a card holder for my cards. She said I'm her family's photographer for life!!!! GREAT NEWS!!! What I'm REALLY bummed about is the head of the practice, my own Dr. She apparently has decided not to hang any prints in the front office or anywhere else for me because she HATED the dramatic lighting shots and said that they just looked like I didn't use enough light. She also REALLY HATED the images with the pink rose. She hasn't even seen the rest of my web site, and she's judging my work solely based on those few photos that didn't appeal to her! Now, I know that not everyone will like every photo I take, and not everyone likes dramatic lighting, etc, etc... BUT, at least check out the rest of my work before blacklisting me!! I think she's even avoiding me, I tried to make my annual appt the other day and no matter when I tried to make it for, they kept saying she was "unavailable" and encouraged me to see another Dr. I could just cry. I'm SO bummed!!!


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10/24/2005 12:33:51 PM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Laura, I'm so sorry to hear that she is being like that. I would be extremely bummed out if it was me and I was hearing remarks like that. I'm very sensitive when it comes to harsh criticism. We try so hard to achieve perfect lighting, perfect composure and an overall wonderful shot. You did a wonderful job on those and I thoroughly enjoyed looking at them as did many of the other members on our thread. Don't let this woman bring you down.

I think you should find a new dr. and be absolutely ecstatic that the midwife loves your work and has paid you such a high compliment. Don't let the other one rain on your wonderful moment. She evidentally doesn't get the whole dramatic lighting effect. We all do though and you have a very supportive group behind you. I think when other employees start seeing you midwife's 16x20 and have an appreciation for what you've created,that is going to make it all worth while for you. Who knows, the closed minded one may even hear positive comments from the rest of the staff and realized she has made a mistake.

Cheer up, you have captured such a beautiful moment in that family's life, those will be cherished for generations to come.


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10/24/2005 12:48:41 PM

 
Cyndee Wanyonyi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/7/2005
  My goodness, Laura. That is so unprofessional of the Dr. I would want to talk with her and ask her what the deal is. It seems so childish and foolish to rid a client because of a taste in photography. I don't understand....Sorry about that. I hope something gets resolved from that. I just wonder where all of our own communication skills come from, then I see adults talk like Junior High girls. No wonder our own kids don't know how to communicate.

Don't let it get you down. You are a great photographer and if I was closer, I would be honored to have you photography maternity shots for me...
a blessing indeed, to have an OB/GYN WANT your photographs in her office. Great opportunity, and certainly the HIGHLIGHT of the last post.

Cyndee ><>


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10/24/2005 12:51:39 PM

 
Angela K. Harter   i agree 100%! and your pictures are BEAUTIFUL!!! and an inspiration to me as I strive to take pictures with as much meaning....and from a sales minded husband of mine, you will get 9 (at least) nos before a yes....chin up girl, YOU'RE DOING GREAT!!!!


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10/24/2005 12:58:18 PM

 
Constance Kessel
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/29/2004
  thanks so much laura...i take no offense to anything...i need all the help I can get!!
that dr. is really unprofessional!! Don't let it bother you! your work is beautiful!!

Thanks for all the leveling tips! I will be trying it and reposting the results!!

oh-quick question-what do you guys use to batch resize pics? I have someone who wants all their wedding pics for a dvd thing, and I don't want them making prints off the disk. I know it I resize the to 640x480 it'll be ok for tv and they can't print off of it, but it takes so long in pse3...any ideas?

thanks!!


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10/24/2005 1:11:07 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Thank you SO MUCH ladies, for your undying support! I'm so glad we're here to support eachother. The nurse midwife was the woman of color I did the maternity session for. She's SO wonderful. She had told me to "try anything you want" and that she wanted something "sassy" and "dramatic" to show her patients that they are beautiful, not just big and pregnant. That's what I was going for. I wish the Dr had let me explain that to her, but the message was simply relayed through my client and even though the Dr saw me there meeting with her, she didn't ever stop over to talk to me at all. I've really like her as a Dr, too. She's very kind and compassionate. She decorated the entire office and it is ELEGANT! She's kind of an interior designer in her spare time, I guess. She has a really great eye, which is why it surprises me so much that she's so turned off based on a couple of photos from ONE session. Oh well... I thought it was too good to be true, I guess it was. She has at least told my client that she can display whatever she wants of my work etc in her own office, and quite a few of the nurses and the other NMW said they LOVE my work, so I have to take that and say that 9 out of 10 of them loved it, so that's a pretty good percentage! I'm trying to cheer up, THANKS AGAIN for your support!!!

I also have to apologize for not being on the thread and answering too many questions lately. I've been kind of wrapped up in my own thing these days. SORRY!


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10/24/2005 1:12:50 PM

 
Connie J. Turner
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/22/2004
  Well you know what, tell her to stick it up her rear. I think she is being childish by avoiding you and won't even look at the rest especially since you are a patient of hers. I can't believe where her loyalty has gone. Don't worry about what she says, I'm sorry about not being able to post your work there but your work is beautiful. Look how many times Steven King got turned down for a book before he made it big. Its just a process of time. The client love it and you know as well as I that your work is awesome and don't let the words or should I say lack of words get you down. You know you are better than that, you are an artist and you know it!!! So cheer up, make a you a drink and relise how good you really are!!!


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10/24/2005 1:41:04 PM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Hi,
Just catching up on the thread today. Laura, I was literaly shocked at your post about the doctor. Your pictures are so beautiful!!!! I wish I had pictures of me like that when I was pregnant!! Don't let that one person get you down - she must have been having a bad day or something. You have beautiful photos that you should be truly proud of.


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10/24/2005 3:10:40 PM

 
Melissa Farnsworth
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/5/2005
  Laura-that is just crazy. I love your maternity pictures! And in my opinion I think dramatic lighting is really what makes a great maternity picture. Maybe she will come around once all the ladies brag about your work.

Another quesion for everyone...Where do you usuall find your backdrops? I have a few differnt rolls of paper and then I have one muslin that is a textured brown color that I got from Owen's Originals. I am looking for another muslin but I am not sure whats a good color. Any way have a great night.


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10/24/2005 4:04:41 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Thanks again for all the support, everyone, and thanks Debby for the pep talk. I know that art is VERY subjective and that not everyone will like my work. I just wish she had given the rest of my work a chance. She doesn't have to like the dramatic lighting, the pink rose, the satin or ANY of it, but just LOOK before you make that judgement, that's all.

ANYWAY...moving on!

Melissa, I have white paper, a black king bed sheet from Wal-Mart, a brown mottled muslin from Steve Kaeser Backgrounds' e-bay store and a blue mottled muslin from photo4u2 on e-bay (Silverlake Photo is the company name)

Connie K - For the CD/DVD, if you don't want them to be able to print off of it, can't you just do it as a Read Only CD? Otherwise, yes, resize them down and perhaps reduce them to 72ppi so that if they tried, they wouldn't get a very good print. I'd also put a CD label on it with your copyright info.

I'm trying to get the whole image CD thing together, too. Pricing those is a tough one for me! Anyone else offer CDs and give them printing rights? What do you charge and under what circumstances...do you have a minimum print order to make the CD available?

Thanks again for all of your support today...I really needed it! You guys are the best!


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10/24/2005 4:25:34 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Laura . . how bad I Feel for you . .. I'm a bit confused though . . . did you take your Dr.'s maternity pics too?? or just the Nurse Midwife and she is judging based on those??? if that's the case that is awful especially if the NMW loved them ... don't feel bad though . . .some people just wouldn't be happy no matter what .. . I delivered the proof CD to Lexi's mom . .. she never really said they were good or anything . . .her comment was . .. I thought she smiled better. .. then I went through the family ones and she had 6 proofs . .. with 3 different poses I think . . .she said that's ALL . . . she said we took a ton ... and I said yea we did but about every other one someone wasn't looking at me(I wanted to say you and the dad included) but I didn't . . .there just isn't alot you can do when the little one wasn't wanting to be in the pics. . . I told her on that day that we would try again for the little girl and I meant that . . she's really cute. . .so we'll see. . . I think she was basing my "skills" on what I was able to do with the little baby shoot of Harrison(she works with the mom) and babies are a whole different world than 2yo . . . she told me the day of the shoot that the little one has neverliked pictures . . . she's just really kind of a negative person . .. I think she just didn't think she had as many proofs as she wanted knowing I took more pictures. .. well yes but again ... not everyone turns out and I told her that on that day . .. so out of around 30 poses she had 15 proofs? is that acceptable?? we were there almost 2 hours. .. and that included the time I was trying to take the sisters pics and also some of them together. .. I just think some people will not be happy no matter what you do . .. we'll see. . .


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10/24/2005 6:10:37 PM

 
Delores Holloway
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/7/2005
  hello everyone,

Laura,
look at your work and look at how many people have bought from you in the past.. you are a great photographer and nothing can take that away from you.. your Dr. has other underlying issues that have not been discussed here ... go ahead and put the big print in the midwifes office.. word will spread and you will be blessed by your great work.. your Dr. will probably never tell you the truth behind her antics...

having a workflow problem.. getting proofs to people, resizing, cropping, bumping up hue/saturation.. I think it would be interesting to hear how others do it all in a timely fashion..


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10/24/2005 8:16:24 PM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
 
 
  Modern Day Victorian Girl
Modern Day Victorian Girl
© Liza M. Franco
Sony Cyber-shot DS...
 
  Senior Portraits
Senior Portraits
© Liza M. Franco
 
 
Hi everyone, Laura I'm still fighting with trying to get studio lighting right with a camera that will only go to an f8, so I will never be able to achieve an f22. So I'm making do with what I have for now.

I did some senior portraits today and this young girl had such a playful personality. She saw my very antique victorian dress, tried it on and came to life. We had so much fun and it was great to see her pop into character.

We had yucky weather here in NC today so we were only able to do indoor shots, not usually my favorite, but this shoot was a blast.


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10/24/2005 9:04:16 PM

 
Debbie Vega
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/23/2005
  Hey Laura, you can just let the Dr "shove it up her rear" as connnie put it. I think you are an amazing photographer and have come so far from 'the cooked husband', you photos and style are unique to you and they are fantastic, don't let anyone tell you different. I only wish I was where you were right now, I am still trying to put together a studio! I wish you so much luck Laura, enjoy doing what you are doing and turning your 'hobby' into amazing work.... Happy evening.....


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10/24/2005 9:07:24 PM

 
Betsy Labuschagne
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2005
 
 
 
Hi Everyone!!

I am way behind on this thread! Iíll try to catch up. I just wanted to share some portraits that I did over the weekend of some really tiny babies. I feel my newborn shoots are improving, any comments are welcome! The white looks a bit overexposed; the place that I do my printing has a digital lab and does the corrections for me. They printed very nicely. Iím loading them without corrections done. The baby in the petal matt was only 12 days old, my youngest subject to date! The other is two months. I did a free shoot for the two months babyís mommy just for the practice, and to use for promotion. I do my best work with these, no pressure!

I also wanted to say that I got Debbyís CDís and they are ABSOLUTELY AWESOME!!! I should have invested in them before I even started looking at props, ect! There are tons of great tips and gorgeous examples (Iíve already copied some!). I would highly recommend these CDís to anyone who is interested in learning more about correct posing and what you should be aiming at giving your customer. Thank you so much Debby for compiling these CDís and sharing all your wonderful wisdom with us!!! I have learnt so much, which would have taken years otherwise!


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10/24/2005 11:19:38 PM

 
Tina Edwards
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/12/2005
 
 
 
I thought that I would show you a few of the portraits I did of my newborn session. What do you think?

And to let you know, I talked to the mom and let her know that I made a mistake on the setting of my camera because I also do real estate pictures for my husband and I always use my lowest setting on them.
I did go to Walmart and print an 8X10 and it was very low quality. I informed the mother that these portraits are still good for 5X7's and smaller. I have another appointment for Wednesday, Hope all goes well this time.....LOL


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10/24/2005 11:53:25 PM

 
Tina Edwards
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/12/2005
 
 
 
I thought that I would show you a few of the portraits I did of my newborn session. What do you think?

And to let you know, I talked to the mom and let her know that I made a mistake on the setting of my camera because I also do real estate pictures for my husband and I always use my lowest setting on them.
I did go to Walmart and print an 8X10 and it was very low quality. I informed the mother that these portraits are still good for 5X7's and smaller. I have another appointment for Wednesday, Hope all goes well this time.....LOL


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10/24/2005 11:53:25 PM

 
Tina Edwards
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/12/2005
 
 
 
OOPS! forgot the portraits and I don't know how I post that last one twice.


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10/24/2005 11:58:45 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Morning!

Thanks Debbie! I appreciate your support!!

Liza, you do BEAUTIFULLY with your setup & camera! Connie T also has the Cybershot, as well as the D-70, so I know that's been a challenge for her, too, but you both seem to have worked it out! Your portraits are wonderful!!

Betsy, GREAT baby portraits!

All...

I also have two of Debby's CDs and they are full of great information! (yes, Debby, I actually read through them finally!!)

Tina, nice newborn shots! Mom doesn't look very happy in the first one. I need a blue bow like that for a maternity shoot (not til Dec 9th) I looked for blue ribbon like that at Wal-Mart and they don't have anything! I guess I have to go to Michaels or JoAnn Fabrics or something. Beautiful!

I'll be out for the day...Connie T and I are taking the kids to the Zoo! Be back later this afternoon or early evening!


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10/25/2005 5:27:13 AM

 
Debbie Vega
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/23/2005
  Great newborn shots Betsey.....

Hey Laura, how do you set up your studio? I have a small space and if I remember rightly you do too. It seems that my lights are just huge and if I want them placed close to the subject I have them all around like three feet away. Is this how it's supposed ot be, it just seems a little dangerous. I know you have the same lights, send me a pic if you can of your set up. Maybe I am doing it wrong...
How big is your room?

Anyway, happy picture taking....


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10/25/2005 7:30:24 AM

 
Andrea Tuft
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/12/2005
  I love all those newborn shots. Betsy where did you get that pedal blanket? It looks so sweet, I love the white. Are you above the baby? Sorry about all the queations, there is just so much to learn and a lot of great ideas on these threads.


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10/25/2005 9:09:36 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
 
 
 
Hi all . . i've been playing this morning trying to come up with my own 8x4 card templates. .. it's hard to find free clipart that doesn't look pixelated when you put them into the card. .. anyway .. here is one I made with the family I did the other day!


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10/25/2005 10:20:19 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
 
 
 
okay I really wish there was an easier way to add images . . I thought I was signed in grrrr


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10/25/2005 10:22:23 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
 
 
 
sometimes I really hate technology ... 3rd time is a charm??


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10/25/2005 10:37:24 AM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Does anyone know how to colorize a sepia photo. I added sepia using the sepia filter and would now like to go back and add color to the leaves. The history tool won't seem to do it. This must be my photoshop week. Don't laugh at the border either. I'm trying to learn how to create a painted look, but still have a way to go on it. Thanks for any tips on the colorizing!!!


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10/25/2005 4:52:07 PM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
 
 
  naomi - sepia
naomi - sepia
© Lynn Snow
Nikon D1X Digital ...
 
 
Does anyone know how to colorize a sepia photo. I added sepia using the sepia filter and would now like to go back and add color to the leaves. The history tool won't seem to do it. This must be my photoshop week. Don't laugh at the border either. I'm trying to learn how to create a painted look, but still have a way to go on it. Thanks for any tips on the colorizing!!!


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10/25/2005 4:52:20 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  lYNN,
YOU CAUGHT ME REPRINTING GOLF SHOTS TO FINIASH A TURNAMENT I DID- AND I SAW YOU POST.
IF YOU HAVE CROPED OF RESIZED THE ORIGINAL IMAGE-YOUR HISTORY BRUSH WON'T WORK.
IF YOU HAVE THE ORIGNIAL COPY MAKE A COPY-THEN CHANGE THE TONE THEN USE THE HISTORY BRUSH-THEN CROP OR RESIZE.
BEST OF LUCK,
DEBBY


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10/25/2005 5:00:16 PM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Thanks so much Debby!!! I'll try that.


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10/25/2005 5:16:45 PM

 
Cyndee Wanyonyi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/7/2005
  hi Lynn,
Another option is to select the leaves you wish to color (CTRL + Shift for more than one leaf at a time), then add a layer with only the leaves (CTRL + J). Go under ENhance, adjust color, adjust hue/saturation. Put a check in the "colorize" box. Then adjust accordingly. It should give you some good color in the leaves...you may have to adjust the opacity accordingly. If you want, send me a copy and I can fool around with it.
Cyndee ><>


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10/25/2005 5:19:30 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  So Sorry, I have been some what out of it-running , running running!
Liza, your shotts are to say the very least WONDERFUL!!!
Betsy and Laura,
Thank you so very much for your KIND remarks and I am so glad they have been of help-actually a dear friend told me today I need to add another to the collection, so it's a thought!
the last week has been a bit draning and it's really nice to know that some of you have really enjoyed the CD's as well as this thread-
Laura, I do hope all the graphs from the cd's on groups will be a help for those family groups you have coming.
Tine, you are doing so well and you bring up a subject that has not been discussed since the first thread-
when using table covers and rugs-,they should match the back drop- I know you were doing a wonderful thing by not getting floating baby- but do try to get them to match, you will see that it is then not a harsh change to the eye- blues (since he a boy , would be easier to match -or using the blue gel on a back light, -would again give you seperation, as in the little boy I used to show you gels.
but good work-I am so glad things are workin' for ya.
i do hope this helps, if you need me just call-


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10/25/2005 7:53:09 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Good Morning,
Andrea, I was working on ebay this morning and came accross this petel matt: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=30085&item=7544245723

hope he has others.
best of luck,
Debby


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10/26/2005 7:19:44 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Thanks, Debby. I'm sure it will help! IF THEY EVER CALL BACK TO RESCHEDULE!!

That particular e-bay vendor always has these petal mats. They aren't always in the colors I'd like, but they carry them all and if you contact them direcly, I'm sure they can get you one that you want! I haven't been to their e-bay store in a while. I don't know anything about their backdrops, either. The petal mats can be found at just about every studio supply company. Just look them up in google or yahoo or something. "Petal Blanket, Studio" or "Petal Mat, Studio" should do it.


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10/26/2005 7:36:02 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Good Morning all . .. In response to the ebay company above . . . I use them alot . . . however. . . do not order from them if you need something quick . . . I ordered several backdrops before a couple of senior shoots and they didn't arrive in time . . . took over 2 weeks to even ship them despite using the buy it now option . .. I wasn't happy and told them so . .. but you can't beat their ebay prices. . . they have a regular retail catalog but the shipping is absolutely horrendous compared to their ebay shipping . .. really crazy if you ask me . .. but they are a good company for the most part . . .

I am in (debt) heaven LOL . . . I just got off the phone with Gateway . .. and ordered a new computer. . . the one I have now is an HP and it's at least 3 years old and it's really seemed to be grinding lately and some of my programs are wanting to freeze up on me alot . .. last night I finally set it to defrag and when I did it told me I didn't have the recommended free space . . . I defragged anyway ...but I am down to only 9% . . . I could dump all my photos off but I hate to do that because I want them easily accessible. .. anyway ... it's got 1 gb ram and 200 gb hard drive and the new Pentium D processor .. . I also went ahead and got the powerpoint thing and publisher program .. . I don't know how much I will use them but my kids are starting to have to do some of the powerpoint stuff for school . . . it also has a dvd burner and 2 drives so I can burn one dvd to another . .. I'm going to start backing up on DVD rather than CD because there's so much more space. . . I use 3-5 disks for one shoot it seems. . . I back up the originals and the edits for sure and then if I can I also backup the final of what they ordered with my logo, etc.

Now . ..I just got an email from the mom of the boy that I did the other day ... He ended up with 46 proofs. . . to me for a boy that is quite a few . . .especially for someone who didn't want to come . ..LOL . . . anyway the mom just emailed to ask if that was all. . . the other boy I did only had around 40 also . . . girls on the other hand will have usually between 75-100 but we usually end up going more places and having more outfits. . . I took quite a few more shots but I always try to take two of alot of them in case something is goofy in the focus or something . .. so I know they are thinking she took way more than that . .. but I've been telling myself I need to cut back a little on the proofs because of the editing time involved. .. I still gave him a nice selection I feel . . so I"m not sure what he thought was missing . . we did do quite a few with his football gear and stuff but alot of them were basically the same . . . which is my fault . ..but I was having a hard time with posing simply because he didn't bring some of the stuff I thought he would so there weren't alot of options in terms of changing things around . . . I need to find something I can hang some of their jersey's on and stuff. ..

soooo in all this rambling . . .what do you all think is a "good/normal" number of proofs for a boy . .. I thought 46 was plenty considering even my girls tend to only choose between 8-10 poses IF THAT!!!

One of the very good photographers that some use offers around 70 proofs for the girls . . . boys just can be much more limiting(for me anyway) because I seem to not have alot of "masculine" poses. . . with girls you can shoot over the shoulder and so many more angles than you can with boys.


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10/26/2005 7:50:55 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Good Morning Everyone, I feel like I don't get to get on here much anymore. I miss you guys. Thanks for the kind compliments on the senior portraits. She was so much fun to work with. Laura, I think this is the best that camera will let me do as far as lighting. I feel it is still lacking something, I just can't figure out what I need to do. I've only been working with umbrellas and I'm wondering if a softbox may give more of the look I'm hoping for. As far as the model, wow, she really pulled off the whole dress up thing really well. And her hair is incredible, oh how it love to have hair like that. It is all natural too except she straightened the front a bit. I was so nervous when I saw how pale she was, my lights have a tendency to wash pale people out. I just played with them a bit and got close to what I wanted. Still have to adjust the lighting in PS, but that's cheaper than buying a new camera:)

All the new baby shots are so beautiful. Makes me wish a newborn would come along. Wait, clarification, somebody else's newborn, not one for me. I have my hands full with 3 year old Malena. This isn't as easy at 40 as it was with my first one at 20. You all are doing such beautiful work. This thread has been awesome, what a great group we have here.

Debby I owe you a phone call, Duffy has me working at this darn Haunted House every night and its cutting into my spare time. Its cutting into my BP time too, darn it.

I don't have much time to post lately, but I pop in every chance I get to see what photos you all have posted. Its always exciting to see how well everyone is doing.


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10/26/2005 8:03:11 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Michelle,
That is more then enough poses, but if shes going to complaine then she's going to.
it can be a hard line- but the more you give them the longer if they ever place the order.
Laura and I were just talking about this the other day,lol.


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10/26/2005 8:09:14 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  I agree with Debby...if she's going to complain, there's nothing you can do. I think there's more than enough to pick from. If she persists, maybe ask her what else she was looking for or what she feels is missing, and YES! I have yet to make any money off of most of my shoots due to my intro offer of no sitting fee AND the number of proofs I've given them! I took so many because I wanted to try new things and build my portfolio, but by offering them all to them, they can't decide what to order and can't afford all the ones they want! It's really become an issue! I think you have more than enough!

Liza, that's just my point, though! Your portraits look GREAT! A softbox might give you the look you're going for better than the umbrellas, but there's NOTHING wrong with the ones you posted, in my opinion!!! You've done great for feeling so limited! It sure doesn't look like you've been limited at all!!! :) I know what you mean! I wanted to get my hands (camera) on a newborn, too. My first mom got too busy and wants to do 3 mo shots, my second and third are due in a couple of weeks and swear I am going to have sessions booked the minute they're born, one for the following week and one at 4-6 weeks old. I CAN'T WAIT!


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10/26/2005 8:15:40 AM

 
Angela K. Harter   i just don't know what i'm going to do this weekend:) we are off to gatlinburg, which will be beautiful! but I won't be able to get on here:(

40 does seem like more than enough but I haven't done seniors yet....one mom told me I gave her too many choices! I think it was around 19 or 20....she said it was too hard to choose and next time not to give her so many proofs,lol! guess it just depends are who you are working with huh?! just thought i'd share that...

well, hope all of you have a wonderful weekend!!!! i'll miss being on here but i'm sure this will be the first thing I do on sun. night when I get back:)


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10/26/2005 8:21:19 AM

 
Andrea Tuft
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/12/2005
  Debby thanks for that link. I love the picture above where the baby is sunk in the pedals, looks so comfey and sweet.


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10/26/2005 8:30:59 AM

 
Andrea Tuft
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/12/2005
  Debby thanks for that link. I love the picture above where the baby is sunk in the pedals, looks so comfey and sweet.


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10/26/2005 8:31:18 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Okay well I feel better. .. I think part of my "situation" and something I may have to stop doing .. . is that I sometimes give them a sneak peek in the LCD. . . so they see that I took a ton .. however I never know how many until I get home . .. I did go back adn look and I think I took around 120 . .but some of those were test shots and like I said some were simply duplicates probably 20% and some simply just didn't work . . . so I figure for a boy 46 proofs was gods plenty . . . and although I didn't take this into consideration when I did the shoot I know money is an issue with them already . . . so I just don't foresee a really HUGE order . . . probably in the $200 range which may be large for some but the girls I've done have been in the $400 range usually . . . in fact I'd be surprised if they even spent $200 but I may be surprised as things add up quickly. And learning from experience . .. out of those 46 they will probably choose 2 main ones and then whatever proofs they might want . .. so you are looking at the max of around 10 -12 choices if they get one of the folios. ..

The mom really wasn't complaining per se .. just more inquiring I guess and probably because she knew we took so many . . . and there could have been more but because of the colder morning some simply just looked horrible because of his red bloodshot looking eyes. .. (I didn't tell her that though) ... I fixed the proofs they saw but some just didn't look good even edited. .. anyway .. . I'm really not worried. .. but I think having them on CD makes it sometimes seem like you just zip through them really fast and they don't think there are that many then if they had them in their hand showing them and could see the "stack". . .

As far as placing the orders. . . I give them around 7-10 days to view the CD .. .I figure that's more than plenty . . . and then I'm calling to get the order. .. if you don't then they could put it off forever . . . So it's kind of pressure sales in some ways. .. because most don't want to have to worry about ordering more later so they are picking all that they "might" want . . .

Anyway .. thanks for the reassurance!


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10/26/2005 8:36:19 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Laura, thank you so much. You really made me feel better. I think we all rely on each other as sounding boards on this thread and I do appreciate your pep talk. I'm such a perfectionist and it makes it hard to just say, hey this portrait turned out great. Instead I nit-pick about what could be better. So thank you for your support.

I brought the mom the cd yesterday with all the photos on it so she can start picking out which ones she wants. I think she is really going to be a great source of advertisement. She owns a nail salon and is planning on telling all of her customers about my work. This could be a wonderful help. It is so nice to have my work appreciated, but I still get kind of embarassed when people make a big deal about it. I'm such an outgoing person, and usually one to shower praise on others, but when its directed towards me I find I get almost shy about it. I'm trying to find a good balance. Every now and then I remind myself, you are doing what you want to do and people like it, you are doing something special for people. I'm by no means getting rich with this work, but it is gratifying.

I thought it was important to pour my heart out here for a moment because we are lucky to be doing what we enjoy. Many of us are moms and photographers and we are actually juggling both and doing a good job at it. Not everyone can say they enjoy their work. I'm feeling fortunate at the moment and appreciative so I thought I'd share that with those of you in the same situation.


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10/26/2005 8:50:39 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Liza.. I mirror your comments. . it's so nice to be able to express our joys and frustrations with others that can truly understand . . . I like you get kind of gunshy when people start raving about things.. . I don't like being put on a pedestal but would rather just like to know they like what I've done LOL .. .

My son just came home yesterday and at school they were talking about jobs/careers in a business class and weighing the pros and cons of having a "job" that you make for example $100,000 and absolutely hate or doing a job for $50,000 that you love . . .examples of course . . . and how they determine what is the best choice. .. speaking from experience I say go for what you love . . . it doesn't always make it easy to pay the bills but you gotta love what you do .. . I worked for the USPS for 3 years and made wonderful money . .. great benefits. . . but the government just isn't for me . . . I was a wreck all the time . . .working every Saturday and then they started throwing in middle of the nite stuff and having to drive 40 miles to do it . . . I hated it. . . I loved the work but just hated what went with it . . . it was a big sacrifice to give it up but thanks to lots of family and friend support (locally) and now the support I get from all my online family and friends it makes those decisions so much easier.. .


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10/26/2005 9:09:28 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  hey all . .. another quick question . .. I have that sitting this Friday for the mom with the 5 kids(the switch heads mom LOL) and I need some help concerning sitting fees. .. My base fee is $35 for individuals and small groups ... then I have a $10/location or outfit charge and also a $10/sub group taken at the same time fee. . . now . .. for this family on Friday . .. she wants a group photo and also individuals of all the kids. .. so basically it will be six sittings. .. I don't want to be unrealistic but need to be paid for my time as well . .. so would it be too much to ask for $35 + $10/kid?? that would be $85 . .. I have those fees in my brochure but as I read them they aren't as clear as I would like them and I don't want her to be offended when I charge her $85 for it . ..

Also . . she isn't wanting props but more just pics of the kids. . . since we were discussing proofs earlier what would be a fair amount of proofs in this situation per each kid and the group? the ages are 2-11 and for the most part they are pretty photogenic kids. . . I figured closeups going both directions and some natural light stuff . .. there are 4 boys and 1 girl . ..

I know we've talked about this a bit before but was more curious about how many proofs everyone thinks. .. plus if she's paying a sitting fee for each one I want to make it worth her while too . . .


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10/26/2005 11:31:56 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  To me, that's very individualized and subjective. I have in my pricing that I will do up to 4 people and 3 wardrobe changes for my $25 (or $50 on location). Then $5 per person or wardrobe change after that. For that they get a full session, including each person individually and then in groups or pairs or however they want. So I don't charge for separate sessions to do each person. To me, that's what a family session is. You'd do the whole family in several poses, the parents without the kids, the kids as a group, the mom with the kids, the dad with the kids, each member of the family alone... It's all part of one session. So for MY prices, in-studio, two parents and 5 kids for up to 2 hours and 3 wardrobe changes would be $40. (the $25 + $5 per person over 4). For the wardrobe changes, it's $5 for each over 3 for the group, not per person.

For # of proofs, I'd probably want to get 4-6 good proofs per grouping/person. Debby???? HELP!


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10/26/2005 11:57:43 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Thanks Laura for your thoughts. .. I just didn't think about this type of situation . .. I think I'll just charge her $45. . $35 for the base and then $10 for the individuals which is basically a 2nd outfit because I think they are wearing different things in their individuals than they are as a group . . . this mom will be a good customer if I can win her trust and give her confidence in me . .. My large group fee(over 6) is $50 . . . so I could just charge her that . . .


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10/26/2005 12:08:06 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  NOW I remember...Debby calls those "Approvals" or Approval Sets. You take every combination of people during a session...really, which one would the mom NOT buy??? You'll sell more prints doing it that way than charging her as separate sessions, and get more repeat business, I think. If your brochure states that is how you charge, does it state how big a "small group" is? For instance, if a "small group" is listed as 4 and there is a $10/sub-group fee, I guess the way you stated would be correct. $35 session fee plush $10 for each sub-group you shoot, so the whole family together, then each child individually. I'd make it clear to her before she gets there, though, just so there's no misunderstanding. Just call or e-mail her a confirmation of what you've discussed and remind her of the $$ due at the time of the session and breakdown what it is for. That way there are no surprises.


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10/26/2005 12:09:42 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  I think we were typing at the same time Laura. .. I do have a number on my large groups and it's 6 or over. .. so up to 5 is $35 plus $10 for each subgroup . .. but I think I"ll still just charge her $45 total and call it a group session and individual session and that way too if I don't get alot of proofs from one child for some reason then she doesn't feel like she got shorted. . . I'm thinking she's used to paying around $50 which is probably the norm around here. . . I don't do proofs in print and they are on CD but for her I may have to do in print because she likes to see them and she's the one who wants those fancy cards too .. . oh my . . . am I up for this . . . yes Michelle you are up for this . . .she will be a good customer .. you can do this . . . SHRIEK!!!


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10/26/2005 12:20:02 PM

 
Andrea Tuft
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/12/2005
  Hello everyone! I was wondering how u guys sharpen your pics??? I just use unsharpen mask, but I don't know much about it. I would love it if you could tell me how you do it step by step.


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10/26/2005 7:39:21 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  I use unsharpn mask as well . . . and try to never go over 100% and the radius is 3.0 and threshold is at 2. That was just settings someone recommended to me and so that's what I use. . . and mine look fine. I've heard of people that don't sharpen or do anything and just let MPix do all their correcting(or other lab) but I guess I just don't trust that method. I'm thinking too . . . Andrea was it you that was having issues with soft images in your new digital??? My camera has a place where I can adjust some settings and I think sharpen is one of them .. . I wonder if you tweaked that(if your camera has it) if that would help!


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10/26/2005 8:24:09 PM

 
Debbie Vega
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/23/2005
 
 
 
Hey all, I just found a nice blanket that I thought I could use as backdrop, too much pull on those pursestrings....lol.. I took this picture, what do you think of the lighting..?
I find that the lights are really close to me, are they supposed to be that way? Just a couple of questions I hope you can help me with.. Thanks everyone..


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10/26/2005 10:03:26 PM

 
Debbie Vega
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/23/2005
 
 
 
Just to mention, I converted this pic from colour. I'll also post the original. Thank everyone.

And Debby, Ilove you for teaching me that whole 200/f22. Thank You Thank YOU.


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10/26/2005 10:09:08 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Debbie,
You worry to much,lol,lol
there is no set distance for any one studio,we are all working with different sizes of rooms-
HOWEVER, the color you are getting right now is PERFECT!!!!!!
don't change a thing!
just turn up or down the lights if need be-
********YOU ARE DOING GREAT!! ********


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10/26/2005 10:40:21 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Oh and may I add- every time you are worried and upset about the amount of space you have - just take a stroll down to the nearest K-Mart Olan Mills Studio and you'll feel SOOOO much better!
However, this may be the best Idea,go there and take a look at thier space saving ideas-they may help.
** no kidding some of those are like shooting in a closet!


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10/26/2005 10:59:07 PM

 
Betsy Labuschagne
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2005
  Thanks for the compliments!

Andrea, I bought all my props to start from Fairytale Portraits and Props http://www.fairytalesportraitprops.com/angels.html. I am getting ready to place my second order. Their props are great!

When I did the shoot I used a bean bag, made a nice little Ďholeí for baby to lie in, then I stood right next to baby and took the shot from above. Hope that makes sense. I had to move my fill light a bit, so that I wouldnít be in the way of it. I love how these came out. I could have just used a little less light. Fairytales also have other colours available. They say not to wash these, but I have washed mine (by hand) quite a bit and it still looks fine. (I wash everything; if it cannot be washed it doesnít belong in my studio!) The petals are just glued on however, so you may find that you have to glue a couple back after every wash.

Iím so excited tonight; the mommy that I did the free shoot for over the weekend wants me to go and do the annual shoot at the mommy and baby group she belongs to. I told her I couldnít, my studio isnít portable, but she insisted. She said you just bring a backdrop and do a few themes and mentioned that theyíre so sick of the photographer that does it every year. At first I was overcome by fear, but now Iím actually very excited! There will be about 50 babies and Iíll have to do the shoot in an afternoon. Iíll take my sister-in-law to assist. I may also buy a portable backdrop stand and backlight and some more backdrops. I canít wait!!! Iím looking at it as a learning experience, also a chance of gaining 50 potential customers and just a way of promoting myself.


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10/27/2005 12:00:44 AM

 
Debbie Vega
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/23/2005
  Thanks for the imput debby, I guess I just feel like there are too many wires/umbrellas etc close to my subjects, literally like 4 feet and it feels tight. Maybe when I have talked hubby into getting rid of futon it'll be alittle better, until then I am just happy practicing.
I really appreciate all your support. Must go get coffee now, soph woke early this morning... aghhh


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10/27/2005 7:17:46 AM

 
Andrea Tuft
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/12/2005
  Thank you Michelle for your sharpening tips. I don't see any settings on my camera for sharpening pictures. I wish it did. I just don't feel like my pictures get sharp enough. I'll post one from yesterday. I had great window light and my external flash for fill.
Betsy, I like the prop site too, I bought my angel wings there. I love that picture the baby looks so sweet and relaxed. I'll have to get a mat. Thats awesome 50 babies, great experience. Good luck!


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10/27/2005 9:34:34 AM

 
Andrea Tuft
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/12/2005
 
 
 
I know digital isn't as clear as film but I see other picture taken with my same camera that seem sharper.


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10/27/2005 9:36:39 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Andrea, What camera do you have again? What are your camera settings? Maybe your shutter speed is too slow? Try to speed it up a bit, and then you may need to open up your Aperture a little more, if you do that.


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10/27/2005 9:56:37 AM

 
Andrea Tuft
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/12/2005
  I have the canon digital rebal. I had it on auto settings. I need to learn more about settings.


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10/27/2005 10:00:31 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  That will definitely make a difference. Connie T and I went to the zoo the other day and with it on pre-programmed settings, most of our photos came out blurry! The shutter it was using was too slow to catch the kids and animals. My personal recommendation..and it doesn't mean it's correct or that it will work perfectly every time...Try putting it on S and setting the shutter to at least 100-125 and let the camera choose your aperture (f setting) based on the shutter and the available light. See what happens & post one!


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10/27/2005 10:08:54 AM

 
Andrea Tuft
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/12/2005
 
 
 
Okay! I think my Tv is the same as S. This picture shutter was 125 and 5/f. It's weird because sometime on auto they are all clear and sometimes they are all blurry. I thought it was because of the light but yesterday I had a ton of light, she was moving but not really fast.


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10/27/2005 10:46:52 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  I have NO idea what the Tv setting is! I've never heard of it! S is the Shutter Priority setting where you set the shutter and it picks the Aperture. You'd definitely have to check that out in the manual. You may need to speed it up to 200 (what we've recommended for most, if not all, studio situations) and see what happens. Not sure how it'll work out with natural lighting, as opposed to studio lighting. The auto setting will adapt to the lighting conditions, but not all the little movements a child makes, so if you have a baby trying to sit, but swaying just a bit to keep it's balance, you'll still get a slight blur if the camera has slowed the shutter down to accommodate the lighting. Even right now with a lot of natural light in my bright studio, Auto gives me a shutter of 80-100 at f4-5. To me that shuter speed is way too slow to catch my kids!!

Anyone else have a suggestion as to why she's getting soft images?


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10/27/2005 11:25:27 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
 
 
 
Here's one of mine and Connie T's kids at the zoo. The camera selected shutter 80, Aperture f4 in VERY BRIGHT outdoor sunlight. Too slow to catch these monkeys!!!


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10/27/2005 11:29:52 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
 
 
 
Here's one at 100/f4 Still slightly blurry, but that step up on the shutter made a BIG difference!


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10/27/2005 11:33:03 AM

 
Betsy Labuschagne
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2005
  Hi Andrea,

I have the Canon 350D. The TV setting lets you set the shutter speed, and automatically sets the aperture to suit your subjects brightness. I noticed that my studio shots looked very soft and sometimes you could notice a bit of a blur. I increased my shutter speed to 125 f8 and am much happier with the results. You could also change your ISO settings and see what that does. ISO 200 is a good setting. Hope this helps.

Liza, your portraits are stunning. Michelle your family portraits too. I have a family shoot this Saturday, and I really don't look forward to it. It's my sister-in-law's sister-in-law. They have three children, I've only done tiny baby with parents. To make it worse, when I just started out the studio I really wanted to use this woman's little girl to pose for my portfolio. I offered her a free shoot for the little girl and baby. I asked via my sister-in-law, who then told me that she asked her 'Can she take photos?' She never brought her children and now she wants family portraits of all things. I was hoping to have my backlights and new backdrops by Saturday, but can only have them by next week. I really don't feel like this shoot! I surpose I'll just have to get over myself and do my best.


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10/27/2005 12:32:26 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Thanks for chiming in on that Betsy! ISO was going to be my next question! What does Tv stand for???

I agree, definitely 125 or higher on the shutter speed, then let the camera decide the apeture for natural lighting.

I know what you mean about not being into a shoot. You'll get excited when it comes time for it and you'll do your thing and be great!! I was starting to dread my triple shoot last week with the 5 kids in one session, 4 kids in another and then a family of 4, but when the day came I was really excited and was REALLY bummed that they cancelled beacause of my sore throat. She promised to reschedule, though, so we'll see! GOOD LUCK TO YOU, YOU'LL DO GREAT!!!


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10/27/2005 12:42:18 PM

 
Betsy Labuschagne
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2005
  Andrea, just thought of something else that may help. I noticed when using my focusing points in the studio that the camera takes forever to achieve focus. Then I read on another thread to set the camera's autofocusing method to Al Servo. Now if I set a focusing point it focusses immediately. Al Servo is for moving subjects when the focusing distance keeps changing. It really made a big difference ! Our camera's are not identical, but see if yours has these modes as well.


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10/27/2005 12:47:28 PM

 
Betsy Labuschagne
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2005
  We posted at the same time Laura. Thanks for your encouragement!

TV stands for Time Value - fast or slow shutter


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10/27/2005 12:52:41 PM

 
Betsy Labuschagne
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2005
  Ok, just one more thing I want to mention Andrea. I did my first shoot in the studio on Auto and realised I will never get the desired results if I stick to Auto. You have to try M - Manual and set your own shutter speed and Aperture. Just try it! It's easy to see if you're going wrong when you're using digital. A lightmeter also helps to get the right settings quicker. I know some people on this thread have mentioned that a light meter is unnecessary if you're using digital, but I have found mine quite useful.


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10/27/2005 1:00:10 PM

 
Andrea Tuft
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/12/2005
 
 
  gdaughters
gdaughters
This a collage I did for my mother-in-law of her 3 little girls.
© Andrea Tuft
Canon EOS Digital ...
 
 
Thank you guys for all your help!! I took some pictures on manual mode 200/5.6f and I told my son to move his arm around, I'll post them. I don't see a way to change my auto focus but I'm trying to figure it out. That is good to know about the auto mode. I guess I need to do some more research. I'm not sure how to set my ISO. There is a website I can look at to find some of this stuff out.
I have another question for you. My mother-in-laws birthday is coming up and I wanted to do this college of her 3 grandaughters. It stinks because the pictures are kind of blurry but I don't have time to redo them. What do you guys think of this college? any suggestions?


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10/27/2005 2:00:01 PM

 
Cyndee Wanyonyi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/7/2005
  Andrea,
Try going through
http://www.photoworkshop.com/canon/index.html

It's a great website with great info on the Canon Rebel XT. Let me know what you think.
Cyndee ><>


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10/27/2005 2:09:19 PM

 
Andrea Tuft
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/12/2005
  I think we posed at the same time! Ya I'm looking at that website right now! Soooooooooo much info!


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10/27/2005 2:15:52 PM

 
Michael E. Lanning
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/26/2005
  Hello all........I have very important question(like any really aren't) But anywho, I have contracted with apartment complexs to shoot the residents christmas/holiday photo's.....where can I get some templetes for cards and also I will shoot on white background and put in digital scenery....any ideas or advice???????


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10/27/2005 3:18:04 PM

 
Betsy Labuschagne
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2005
  Hi Michael, I think Liza may be able to help you.

I wanted to ask for my shoot tomorrow. Is it absolutely neccessary to get full body when doing family portraits. I was thinking of doing a few of the whole family together and then getting more full body of the kids. Will this be silly, would they expect full body of them all together. I'm really not geared up for family portraits at this stage. Any advise welcome, please.


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10/28/2005 8:49:57 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Good Morning,
Betsy,
it really would be best- but if the room does not allow-why not do all 1/2 to 3/4
or do the whole family as 1/2 body with a casual feel- don't know the ages so it's had to suggest. then do the approvals in full body at a angle where when you hang them it will look like mom and dads are looking toward the full family and the kids are doing the same from the hanging on the other side.
I you can post more info-great.
wishing you the best,
Debby
*Oh see the CD's for approval sets and Graphs on family groups.


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10/28/2005 8:57:27 AM

 
Betsy Labuschagne
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2005
  Thanks Debby! I thought of doing the approval set exactly like that, really, I must be getting better at this.

O, and I have studied the CD very closely, believe me!

I just actually looked up in the thread and saw Michelle's nice posing. Perhaps I can try the woman in the mermaid pose and the husband in the male pose. I'm going to try and squash them all on my posing boxes. I'll just take a few of these, just to try. I think I need to go practice with my family before I make a fool of myself tomorrow!

Thanks again!


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10/28/2005 9:02:55 AM

 
Betsy Labuschagne
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2005
  Tried that and it looks ok. Just read your note again Debby. The room does actually allow for full body, but I don't have anything large enough for them to sit on and I don't want them on the carpet. I should have thought of it earlier. It will be the parents with a boy, about 12 years, a girl, about 5 and a baby, 1 year. I'm not sure if I should put the little boy with the father or the girl. He is the little boys stepfather, although I think he pretty much raised him from small.


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10/28/2005 9:50:12 AM

 
Andrea Tuft
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/12/2005
  Does anyone have any suggestion for my angel college? I need to print it today. I just wanted to know if there is anything more I should do to it? With writing or without?


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10/28/2005 10:23:57 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  jUST A QUICK NOTE: FOR ALL OF YOU LOOKING FOR SOME EQUIPTMENT-I AM LISTING SOME THINGS TODAY ON EBAY.
WITH MY EQUIPTMENT AND RUBENS EQUIPTMENT STORED HERE MY HOUSE LOOKS LIKE A PHOTOTORIUM.
JUST THOUGHT SOME OF YOU MAY NEED SOMETHING.


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10/28/2005 2:17:52 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Well I'm home from my shot .. . and I just don't feel good about it at all . .. the 2yo did not want to cooperate at all .. . and of course with 5 kids trying to get them to all look at ME was not working . . . mom was blowing bubbles, etc but no one wanted to look at me . . . I"m working on these now but I'm just not feeling good about it at all . . . I think I'll just stick to senior pictures LOL


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10/28/2005 2:30:13 PM

 
Constance Kessel
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/29/2004
  just my quick 2 cents...i'm stilol here been busy, which I guess is a good thing.....but andrea, your coolage looks like you might have put the softness there on purpose, I think it'll be fine and she probably won't even notice....
Thanks for all the advice, i'll post when I get more time...

connie k


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10/28/2005 2:45:28 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  GUYS ,
WHEN I POSTED I FORGOT TO AD THAT YOU CAN SEE THE AUCTIONS BY CLICKING ON THE STORE AND LOOKING IN "OTHER" CATOGORY.
SORRY


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10/28/2005 2:50:49 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
 
 
 
hey the mail guy just came!yeah!
and I had ordered the cloud backdrop someone snipped out from under me.
I am so excited I wanted you guys to see what it looked like in a portrait.

Now you know this 14 year old boy loves his MAMA to do this for me!!lol,lol
don't tell him -they really aren't a good example-due to dof-i just through it over the couch and through up a light and very quickly before he had time to think twice about it.
poor kid walked in the door from school " hey PPLLLEEEase do mommy a favor- poor kid!:-)


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10/28/2005 3:36:42 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
 
 
 
Okay .. here are a few from today ... Like I said .. . it definitely wasn't my best day . . . what do you do when the mom is sitting there saying "fake" meaning smile when I thought they looked nice??


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10/28/2005 7:16:40 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
 
 
 
Okay .. here are a few from today ... Like I said .. . it definitely wasn't my best day . . . what do you do when the mom is sitting there saying "fake" meaning smile when I thought they looked nice??


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10/28/2005 7:17:17 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  GOODNESS MICHELLE,
I NEED YOUR PHONE NUMBER SO I CAN REACH THROUGH THE LINE AND SHAKE YA WHEN YOUR BEING TO HARD ON YOURSELF!!
THSES AREN'T BAD AT ALL AND YOU REARLY GET PERFECTION WITH CHILD GROUPS OVER 3-4.
HEY ANY TIME YOU GET DOWN(AND WHEN I FIND THESE I'LL POST THEM) THINK OF A DAY I ONCE HAD-I KID YOU NOT: 5,YES 5 NONE OVER TWO-3 ADULTS CATCHING KIDS AND ADMIST IT ALL THE TRIPOD BROKE AND THERE I AM WITH THAT BIG OLAN MILLS BEAST OF A CAMERA ON MY SHOULDER TRYING TO GET THESE SHOTS- THE PARENTS AND MYSELF WERE LAUGHING SOOO HARD!! I COULD HARDLY HOLD THAT CAMERA UP!!!
WHAT A DAY! -
ANYONE WHO HAS MY CD'S HAS SEEN IT-
I ONLY WISH I HAD A COPY OF THE FINISHED PRODUCT- IT WAS SO CUTE-FOR A SEC. IN TIME THEY WERE STILL!

*** HEY FINALLY MY AUCTION SNIPER SNIPED A AUCTION FOR ME!!! YEAH!
I LOVE THAT THING-THE LINK IS IN MY EBAY STORE(IT WAS NOT ABLE TO BE PUT ON HERE-???) GO TO MY GALLERY AND USE THE LINK TO MY STORE , IT'S ON BOTTOM LEFT.

*** NOW TO TELL YOU - MY CLOUD BACKGROUND CAME FROM THE SAME LADY WHO MADE MY CHRISTMAS ONE -IT'S THE SAME WONDERFUL QUALITY:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZwallsQ2aofQ2aart


*** AND ANOTHER WONDERFUL VENDER IS AT THIS SITE- I BOUGHT FAKE CHOCOLATE CHIP COOKIES FOR "WAITING FOR SANTA" PORTRAITS-THE FAKE MILK YOU MAKE BY PAINTING THE INSIDE OF A CLEAR PLASTIC CUP- REAL CUTE IN THIER PJ'S OR PLAYING LIKE THEY FELL ASLEEP WAITING FOR SANTA-HERES THE LINK:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4412589435&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1

WELL AS I FIND 'EM I WILL POST THEM.
BETTER CLOUD PICTURES SHOULD BE THERE TOMORROW AS I AM SHOOTING A CHARITY DOG WASH!!


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10/28/2005 8:12:24 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Thanks for the vote of confidence. .. the sad thing is I DO like them . . but knowing she was so critical of every smile just makes me kind of lose my enthusiasm for the whole day .. . I thought the little girl had a very sweet and pleasant smile . . . but just kind of deflated me when mom came in and said "What's that Fake stuff". .. I can remember being frustrated with my own kids too and wanting the "best" smiles but I never remember being that picky . . . as long as they were sitting up and looked acceptable I was fine with it . .. she didn't really have me take all that many individuals and said she was sure she would find some she liked. . .well there was only ONE of the baby . . and she wants tight crops and I don't think I did that enough . .. it was definitely a workout and the $45 didn't go very far considering the length of time we were there. . . the last time I felt this sick over a portrait thing was when I did the wedding back in March . .. I think I'd rather have done a wedding today LOL


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10/28/2005 8:56:36 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
 
 
 
I meant to add a few more individuals. .. these are cropped pretty tight so I'm not sure how well they will enlarge.. .


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10/28/2005 9:03:47 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
 
 
 
okay ...


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10/28/2005 9:05:00 PM

 
Andrea Tuft
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/12/2005
  I think they are all really cute. If these were my kids I'd be very happy about these pictures. Some days your just "not feelin' it". But my "not feelin'it" days don't look nearly as good.


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10/28/2005 9:32:50 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  sometimes we all sound like such artists! lol ,lol
knock it off- do your job, the best you can- if you didn't , admit it and re-shoot if possible.
But if you guys did a good job and really feel you did- then try,TRY to blow it off.
Remeber Laura, last week? blow it off.
Michelle the smiles you got were mostly genuine(you can tell by the eyes)
if the Mom is too critical then she will be with anyone- let her know the portraits are beautiful and look very real! and that you feel very good about this job-then if she wants to walk-LET HER WALK!!!!
see the venue I worked in for so long told you (unfortunately ) alot about people- some times they feel like if they say something nice-it may cost them more- or if they don't they may get a discount or free stuff-
sorry but it's real- or they honestly don't value, portraits enough.
or maybe they really just don't like your work! and not every one will.
we just have to find our own happiness with the work we've done.
I do hope this helps- it will never make it all better - but I do hope it helps,
Debby


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10/28/2005 10:20:47 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Thanks again Debby . . . I think as far as the individuals go she will be happy with those . .. other than thinking the two older ones are fake smiles. . . it's the family ones that she will want perfect more so than anything else. .. and it was just very difficult because she kept asking me . .. do you think we have some good ones . . . and I said yea I think so . . .but you're the one who will choose. . . not the right thing I know but that was the truth . .. I guess time will tell . . . she'll either stay or go . . . at this point I think I'd buy her next session to her former photographer LOLOL . . (just kidding)


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10/29/2005 5:01:41 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Michelle you did a GREAT job! The mom I was speaking to for the shoot with the 5 kids (7 weeks to 9 yrs old) asked if that was going to be difficult. I was honest and told her depending on the child and the mood their in that day, ONE child can be difficult, but we do it and we work with them and get the best results we can for that particular child on that particular day. She laughed and said "sounds good to me!"

I think you did a great job and yes, if she's going to nit-pick there's nothing you can do about it. Like Debby said, some people are purposely negative to make sure they get the best deal and as much of a discount and a freebie as they can. It's just the nature of people. If she comes back and says "I hate them all" (which I SERIOUSLY doubt she'll do), then that's her opinion and she can go to another photographer next time.

Just like my Dr situation, 9 other people in the office plus you guys all said they loved my maternity shots from the Ashley session. So one hated them, so what. It was very much like being punched in the stomach... I was caught off guard, got the wind knocked out of me for a while, regained my composure and got over it in a couple of hours. At least get them ready for her to see, be really positive and up-beat about them when you speak to her, and then wait to see what SHE says before you beat yourself up! You did a great job!!!


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10/29/2005 7:45:50 AM

 
Constance Kessel
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/29/2004
  My goodness michelle!! If she is fussing over those tell her to take her own!!I think they came out wonderful....they could have been so much worse with five kids!!

debbie-where do I find info on your posing cd's? I keep hearing about them and posing is definatly something I need help with!!

Thanks

Connie k


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10/29/2005 8:20:26 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Connie, Just go to her gallery an click her link to her e-bay store.


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10/29/2005 8:26:06 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  GOOD MORNING GUYS!

I HAVE POSTED SOME ITEMS ON EBAY BUT I AM RUNNING OUT OF TIME- SO LATER I WILL POST SOME FLASH UNITS, TRI PODS AND POSIBLY A VINTAGE KIT.
CONNIE, MY CD'S ARE AT A SPIECAL PRICE FOR BP MEMBERS -CLICK ON THE COVERS TO OPEN FOR INFO-THE WHOLE SET IS 40.00 + S&H 4.50
THEY ARE ON SPECIAL ON EBAY AS WELL FOR THE HOLIDAYS-$40.50 + S&H.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR INTREST.
JUST A NOTE- A SET OF THE COME WITH THE BACKDROP HOLDER AND MUSLINS.
HAVE A GREAT DAY-I'LL BE BACK


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10/29/2005 8:30:54 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  OH SHOT FOR GOT TO TELL YOU - YOU CAN EITHER PAYPAL TO : I1DAMSEL2@YAHOO.COM
OR EMAIL ME FOR ADDRESS TO SEND.
THANKS AGAIN


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10/29/2005 8:32:37 AM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Hi guys,
I just wanted to check in here. I have family visiting right now, so I am pretty busy at the moment, and can't check in as much as I would like to. But, I am very fortunte to be able to visit with my sister.

However, I just had to tell Michelle that her pictures are great!! I can't imagine taking how hard that was getting all of the kids to pose and smile just right all at once. The group and individuals came out wonderful. I would be ecstatic if those were mine!! Michelle, you are a very talented photographer!


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10/29/2005 9:41:24 AM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Oops, I just read me own response. Sorry about the typos!! Brain isn't working right today (not that it ever really does) LOL!!


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10/29/2005 10:30:29 AM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Aargh!!! I just did it again! I need some caffeine!!!


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10/29/2005 10:32:05 AM

 
Betsy Labuschagne
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2005
 
 
 
Hi Everyone,


My dreaded shoot went better than expected. They ended up taking 65 photos! I also did a theme with small baby. I'm posting some for you to see, I can see mistakes, but all in all I don't think it went too bad. Any comments welcome.


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10/29/2005 11:35:54 AM

 
Betsy Labuschagne
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2005
 
 
 
Trying again...


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10/29/2005 11:39:06 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Good for you! The only thing I can add is that I might have had mom only put her arm around her son, then dad put his around mom, instead of having mom with both arms out. But WOW! Did they BUY 65 photos, or did you MAKE 65 photos?

Glad to hear you're happy with the overall outcome, Betsy! Another shoot under your belt!! YAY!


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10/29/2005 5:51:58 PM

 
Cyndee Wanyonyi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/7/2005
  Michelle,
Where's your photos?
Cyndee ><>


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10/29/2005 7:55:56 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  OK YOU GUYS I STARTED PART 6- I THOUGHT I HAD BETTER ,BECAUCE WITH WHAT I AM GOING TO POST LIZA FOR ONE WOULD KILL ME FOR THE TIME IT WOULD TAKE HER COMPUTER TO LOAD.LOL,LOL
HERE IS THE LINK:

http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=20255


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10/29/2005 7:57:18 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Hi Cyndee. .. I had to delete some photos because my gallery was getting full :-( Hopefully I'll have them in my gallery soon!


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10/29/2005 8:07:41 PM

 
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