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Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
 

HELP!! Outdoor Senior Portraits


HELP!!! I have had a request for outdoor Senior Portraits and it was "up in the air" for when until just now. They want them done on Sunday to make the yearbook deadline!! Any experienced Senior Portrait Photographers or seasoned pros out there want to give me some tips! I know about shooting in the morning or evening for softer light, and I know about using fill flash and/or reflector. What else???

I REALLY want he and his mom to be happy with them! Any and all suggestions are welcome!


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9/15/2005 3:19:13 PM

 
Maverick Creatives
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/1/2004
  Hello Laura.
Background. Background. Background.
If it's possible take a stroll the day before. Watch the weather forcast and hope the sun/cloud combination is similiar both days. I prefer off camera flash and would use a reflector (requires assistant) before I would resort to my speedlite.
Simply photographing people is not the real challenge. The real challenge is in "creating" the portrait. You know the people will be in attendance, now you must determine what other factors will be available, trees, sunlight, flowers, water ect.
Good Luck and Have fun.

Gary


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9/15/2005 4:56:50 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  I mirror Gary's comments Laura. .. hopefully there will be some overcast as that makes the best for light and then you don't have to worry about goofy shadows and stuff. . . I try to get by without flash but sometimes that isn't possible. . .

Gary I'd be interested in what kind of "off camera" flash system you use??

Thanks!


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9/15/2005 5:12:05 PM

 
Jeff Dadey
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Hey Laura,
I agree with Gary, background is very important and going out the day before to look for different "hot" spots is a great idea. I recently did a Senior portrait session and some of the shots were outdoors at a waterfall, they turned out GREAT! You'll find out also, the outdoor shots are most popular amoung the Seniors and their friends. A couple of other pointers for outdoor shots are, if you shoot in the morning or evening, make sure the sunlight is coming at a 45 or 90 degree angle of you subject. If you shoot mid-day, look for shaded areas or if it's overcast, you can shoot anywhere. Most of the outdoor Senior Portraits are casual shots, let them have fun with it. I hope that helps, if I think of anything else, I will let you know. BTW, love your Gallery. Looks like you have a pretty good handle on lighting and exposure.

Jeff

P.S. Here is one of the outdoor shots I did:


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9/15/2005 5:20:51 PM

 
Jeff Dadey
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Sorry... here it is:


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9/15/2005 5:23:01 PM

 
Kerby Pfrangle
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  It totally agree with Gary on background. I am very picky when I do people that the background be perfect.

Also make sure the person has serveral clothing changes and the clothes be ironed and crisp. Any wrinkles show in your pictures.

Use one outfit per location.

Look at everything around you when your shooting. What you see is what is going to be in the images.

I personally like old barnes, pretty parks or homes with beautiful floral or tree's in them, the mountians have wonderful opportunties. Nice fence lines can be wonderful. IF you have a botanical gardens near you, you have it made. That is an awesome place.

Take some time get your backgrounds in order.

The other thing I do is take 25 to 50 pictures at each location. Pick you location carefully That way you can go through and pick the best ones. With digital take as many as you want you can delete what you don't like.

These are just a few things I do. Hope this helps Laura.

Kerby


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9/15/2005 5:23:27 PM

 
Jeff Dadey
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  Sorry again... I can't seem to put it in this thread but you can see it in my Gallery.

Jeff


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9/15/2005 5:25:29 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  THANKS EVERYONE!!! OK, Here's my problem... His mom wants to have his portraits done in our community where there are a lot of fountains and lakes/ponds. The problem with this is they are surrounded by houses, construction and busy streets!!! I can't get a decent shot without a house or a tree in the background! One side faces East, bad direct bright sun in the morning, and the other faces West, bad direct bright sun in the evening. Nothing about this makes me feel comfortable about the shoot! His yearbook deadline is Sept 27, so this doesn't leave much room for error!


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9/15/2005 7:20:31 PM

 
Kerby Pfrangle
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  Do you have a botanical gardens near you anywhere within a hundred miles.

It would be worth it.

Kerby


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9/15/2005 7:24:21 PM

 
Kerby Pfrangle
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  Laura your comment reminds me of a funny story.

I took my model to a local park that had houses everywhere. I was complaining about it since she picked the park.

She asked me to put my hands together we were standing by a Merry go round.

I did that she stepped in my hands and said up. I lifted her up on the Merry go round and she climbed to the top.

She yelled down I got rid of the houses you have your blue sky and shoot.

I am going to post one of the images this month from that shoot.

LOL.....Kerby


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9/15/2005 7:29:44 PM

 
Jeff Dadey
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  Laura,

I can relate to your delema, I live in the city! My suggestion to you is, look at the different locations and see if there is anywhere that you can somehow hid the buildings either with trees, bushes, etc. I noticed that you have some photos in your Gallery of trains. That may be a good backdrop for you, especially since you subject is male. Another suggestion is, maybe try industrial parks in your area, sometimes they have areas with a fountain, small pond, etc. This may sound silly but, you could also check some rest stops or picnic areas on major highways. Some of them have wooded areas and flower beds around them. Kerby had a Great suggestion also with the Botanical Garden. Don't be afraid to travel a bit to get that "perfect shot", it could be well worth it. Good luck!!

Jeff


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9/15/2005 8:24:26 PM

 
Michelle Ross
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  Railroad Tracks make GREAT scenery for boys . . . they are awesome in Black and White. . .


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9/15/2005 8:29:35 PM

 
Liza M. Franco
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  Hey Laura,

I just did senior portraits last Monday and used plain old railroad tracks. Last winter I saw this girl walk into a shop in a pair of jeans with tears in the knees, cowboy boots and this really cool jacket. Well I looked at her and this image of her in that outfit on train tracks playing her guitar popped into my mind.

Well, here we are now in summer and she wanted senior portraits. I told her we could do whatever she wants, she just has to wear that outfit and let me fulfill my vision. She was a great sport and put the jacket on in our 80 degree weather. She saw her portraits tonight and was tickled with the shots. I like to play with perspective and angle. I really do have a point to this long drawn out story. Here it is. If you get a chance, take a look at the photo called Her Passion in my gallery. Normally I would do a shot like this as a vertical because it was full length and she was standing. However, the trees and the tracks draw the eye into the subject and I love it as a horizontal. Now, because I played with the perspective, I was able to work around some big ugly piece of equipment that was showing. In another shot I positioned her so that an ugly pole wouldn't show. Work around the surroundings, don't let them limit you. Shooting up towards the sky as Kerby mentioned will create great perspective and interest and most seniors love this kind of stuff because it breaks the normal rules of photography and will let their photo be unique.

Good luck with your shoot, let us know how it goes.


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9/15/2005 8:40:59 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
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  HI Michelle and Liza! That's EXACTLY the idea I had, he wanted casual portraits with his guitar anyway, and I would LOVE to take some near the tracks. Now that you guys have mentioned it, too, I think I'm going to ask his mom if we can do that, too.

The trains in my photos were taken in Galveston, about 45 minutes to an hour away at a RR museum. I think there's a little one near here, though (I'm in Houston...talk about city!!!)

We have a waterfall at the entrance to our development that is really gorgeous, nothing natural for waterfalls around here, just swamps and man made "lakes" and falls. I live pretty near Lake Houston. I think my daughter and I will take a drive tomorrow to see what we can find as alternative sites. I really want to push mom to go elsewhere. I got a couple of decent shots tonight with my nephew, but tonight is the only practice night I have with him before he goes back home to CT. There are a couple of spots where I can get a decent background at our "lakes", even if I have to clone out a house with trees. I just need to get out earlier in the evening. We weren't able to get out until 6:30-6:45 tonight and even with my speedlight (with Omnibounce) cranked up to +3 and the EV on the camera at +5, on 125/f5.6 and I was STILL getting underexposure (with bright flash spots on the face!)! I'm NOT encouraged at all.

I want to talk to the mom tomorrow to see if she's open to other locations. We are so pressed for time for the Yearbook deadline, we really don't have time to go to several locations on Sunday evening during the "good light" hour (moments)!

Do you go to several locations on the same day or different sessions?

What is the best time of afternoon/evening to shoot? It's usually BRIGHT sunshine with big puffy clouds here in Houston until at least 6:30, then we lose light fast.

I tried to shoot with my polarizer on, but EVERYTHING was too dark - even into the sun with everything cranked up. I tried shooting up toward the sky, the sky was blown out white! I think it's been too long since I've done any outdoor shooting! I've been hiding in my studio too long! LOL! I guess I need to scour the galleries and the internet for inspiration.

You guys are the best! Keep the advice and ideas coming! It's really helping! This is just my first Senior shoot AND my first outdoor shoot so I'm REALLY nervous!!!


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9/15/2005 9:19:20 PM

 
Michelle Ross
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  Hi Laura. . . I think this is what I would do . . . working with such a deadline will not make you feel at ease doing this shoot. . . What I would propose is that you do something NOW just to meet the yearbook deadline. . . and then try and get them to come back another time when you have more time to do the rest. . . I think in the long run everyone will be more satisfied. . . the boy may not like doing two sessions, but this way you can have a little more time to look for spots(which will help you in future sessions as well) and he AND mom might relax a little more knowing that they only need one to turn out for the yearbook LOL . .. Now this could backfire and they will say that the ones you took are fine and then not have as many to choose from but I don't think so . .. Anyway . . . this is just a thought . .. I too am getting several calls for family portraits that they want taken outdoors. . . I don't live in a large city area so choices are slim as to location . . . but what I am finding is that it is getting dark so much sooner now and once that sun starts going down it goes FAST. . . so I only have about a 30 minute window to work with so getting set up and READY to go so I have that full 30 minutes is a necessity . . . I took a shot of my boys at about 7:45 a couple weeks ago and the sun was going down and I just had them out in our yard in the open and the sun was to the side and it made a nice side lighting glow (I think). . . kind of added drama to it . . . not a perfect picture by any means but I liked it. . . it's in my gallery . . the first one I think . . . (but the gallery doesn't do the color any justice as the real print) . . .One other suggestion I might make is to take a small step stool type ladder. . . and maybe even something to set a tripod on so you are shooting DOWN rather than up into the sky or back into the backgrounds you are wanting to eliminate. . . I wouldn't want to do them all that way because sometimes it give a bit of a distorted look if the angle isn't right but at least then you could use the grass or whatever for background rather than the buildings, etc.

GOod Luck and I"m sure we'll be talking on how it turned out!


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9/16/2005 5:37:12 AM

 
Kerry L. Walker   Gee, Kirby, you're model is not only beautiful, she is smart!


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9/16/2005 7:31:35 AM

 
Kerby Pfrangle
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  Laura I think Michelle's suggestion is wonderful. Just do what you have to do to get a picture in the book and than find quality locations and do it later.

Kerry my model is extremely smart.

She has a beautiful singing voice (sings at weddings, funerals, conventions, church), plays the piano and she is gifted in sports too.

She has alot going for her. Her looks are secondary to other gifts she has.

Kerby


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9/16/2005 12:11:22 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  HI all! He actually has to get his portrait for the Senior Class done by a specific photographer, we found out. I called for more info from the Yearbook publisher and that's what I was told. He has a "Sr Ad" page he's purchased where they can have any photos taken by anyone, even just family snapshots, from the sounds of it. The deadline for submission for those are Sept 27. He's actually into the "makeup session" period for submission of his Sr Portrait for the class pages!!!!

I have scoped out some areas for shooting locations. The RR tracks, a cement slope beneath an overpass near the RR tracks will make for some GREAT edgy teen-musician shots, I pried deeper into his hobbies and personality and he's a volunteer Fire Fighter, so I want to get over to the fire house to take some shots (maybe with his gear) near a truck, I asked "What about a car???" He just got a new Yellow Mustang and is VERY eager to have his portrait done with it. So I have found 5 locations locally!!

The Lake, RR Tracks, under the overpass, the firehouse, and wherever he wants with his car.

We're going to go out at about 3 pm to the lake so the light will be at least 45 degrees behind us (lots of trees at the park) and we can use the lake as a backdrop.

I took some of my nephew last night... I HATE FILL FLASH. I want to go out earlier and use a reflector, diffuser or whatever else I need to do to avoid fill flash. If I HAVE to, I can mount my speedlight to a tripod and bounce it off a clamped umbrella.

HOW AM I DOING??? Am I headed in the right direction???


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9/16/2005 12:27:37 PM

 
Michelle Ross
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  You are definitely headed in the right direction Laura. . . and I think you will do a wonderful job . .. I hate FLASH PERIOD LOL . . . so I can understand what you are saying . . . you said you can mount the speed light to a tripod??? Do you have one of those hot shoes that allows the flash to be off the camera????

Good Luck and I can't wait to see your work from this!


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9/16/2005 12:39:59 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
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THANKS!!!

It's an SB800 for the Nikon D70. It is triggered by the commander mode on the camera's onboard flash so you can use it as a slave off camera.

I'm glad you have confidence in me!!! I'm getting excited, but still REALLY nervous. But in browsing the internet for Sr Portraits, I'm feeling better. Here's one of the test shots from last night. (the only really good one of all of them, actually. It was 6:45pm and we lost our light very quickly!)


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9/16/2005 12:46:14 PM

 
Michelle Ross
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  Okay I don't think mine has that capability .. . although I know my film Maxxum I could use some type of wireless flash . . . I don't think I have the right flash unit though because I didn't buy the Minolta model . .. I do think I can get one of those hot shoe cord things though and use my flash off camera that way


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9/16/2005 1:03:13 PM

 
Maverick Creatives
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Laura,,,DO NOT BE AFRAID TO SHOOT IN THE AFTERNOON !! First of all, lose the polarizer. They only work well when the sun is coming from your right or left side anyhow. They do not perform in frontlit or backlit situations. Put it back in it's little case for now *smile*.

I am showing you an example of how I would shoot in sunlight. I found a hill covered with grass and had Sarah stand at the bottom in the shade. The sun was illuminating the trees in the far background which I blurred to keep the highlights only. I also had her change into white to contrast the grass which now acted as a backdrop. There are so many ways you can have fun with this. I don't see a problem with houses either. Look for door frames, wood, brick ect. Wish I was there with you, we'd have a ball inventing.

Regards
Gary.


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9/16/2005 1:12:54 PM

 
Maverick Creatives
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  shooting with bright sunlit background
shooting with bright sunlit background
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ok,,try this.


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9/16/2005 1:14:57 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
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  I'm with you there, Gary. I tried the polarizer again this morning, put it back in its case where it will stay for a while (actually, it slid off my daughter's sroller canopy onto the concrete and broke apart...so I don't have a choice!!)

I'm getting TONS of ideas popping into my little head now, so I'm pretty confident about the locations and potential poses. It's the lighting I'm most concrned about!! I wish you were here, too! At least I stopped praying for rain...it's a step in the right direction! LOL!


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9/16/2005 1:37:03 PM

 
Sandra 
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Hi Laura,
I'm going to try to add some SR. photo's to this thread, I've tried this before but counldn't get photo's to upload!!!
Sandra


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9/16/2005 1:39:49 PM

 
Michelle Ross
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  Gary this is helpful to me as well . .. Thanks for posting . . . Sun scares me to death as well as I've seen some REALLY bad pictures taken with sunlight . . . the problem here is we have nothing but FLAT BARREN LAND. .. I'm assuming you use your lens hood to avoid the flare from the sun onto your lens???

I've been asked to do a family sitting which will be outdoors in a field. . . they want their John Deere tractor in the background but they don't want to look like little ants amidst the tractor . . . so my thoughts were to fill the frame with the John Deere tractor(allowing for an 8 x 10 crop in my view finder) and then have them stand in the foreground so they are closer to the camera and then use like f11 or 13 or whatever I need to so the tractor isn't totally blurred. . . Depenidng on how bright the light is though I may have to go to like a f 7 or 5.6. . . we planned an evening session . .. but anyway .. . I am hoping to have the tractor as the "backdrop" to the North with the nose angled a little bit south and pointing west. .. then I'm hoping they can be in the front of the tractor. .. I will be on the south facing north maybe angling a bit northeast depending on where the sun is angling from (it will be mid-October) so that the sun gives a nice side lighting effect with a warm glow to it . .. I did this with my kids a couple of weeks ago and I liked the effect of it. ..they weren't with a tractor though and just out in the yard about 7:45p.m. What do you think . . . it's hard to visualize I'm sure. . . I would love to have the sun be somewhat of a hairlight so I may have to adjust depending on where the sun sets. . . is it more north or south west in the winter???


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9/16/2005 1:52:13 PM

 
Sandra 
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Hi Laura,
I'm going to try to add some SR. photo's to this tread, I've tried this before but they didn't upload. But I'll try.
Sandra


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9/16/2005 1:57:13 PM

 
Sandra 
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Hi Laura,
I'm going to try to add some SR. photo's to this tread, I've tried this before but they didn't upload. But I'll try.
Sandra


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9/16/2005 2:08:06 PM

 
Sandra 
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Hi Laura,
I couldn't get but 1 to upload, you could look in my gallery to see more.
Sandra


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9/16/2005 2:16:04 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
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  WOW! Thanks, all! No one has commented or critiqued my test shot. Can I assume it stinks and isn't portrait-worthy?


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9/16/2005 2:56:33 PM

 
Maverick Creatives
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  ok Michelle, first of all, after trying to follow the North South East West description I got dizzy and the ceiling started to spin. Your shoot isn't that difficult, especially if there is GAS in the Tractor, after all N/S/E/W is always the same but the Tractor can MOVE. It sounds to me as if you are approaching this shoot more as a "prison break" than an enjoyable moment in time that can and will be captured. You have the Clients, you have the prop (tractor), all you need now is a SMALL amount of preparation.

YOU are the director, try to convey your vision to your clients. For example, who cares about a John Deere Tractor as a full backdrop. If they wanted a picture of their Tractor they don't really have to be there. The object is THEM,,correct? You could use the green, perhaps the Logo, the fender, the headlight. THE CLIENT WILL SEE THE WHOLE TRACTOR as they are familiar with it and that will enable you to capture a finer close up of the real subject,,,,The People.

Salesmanship and Photography go hand in hand.

Play with it, develop your OWN vision and shoot it. Do as your client asks, however I find that it's my photographic pose they usually purchase and not the one they origianlly sugguested.

In answer to your question earlier in this thread. I shoot with a Canon 20
D and for outdoor portraits I use a ST-E2 SPEEDLITE TRANSMITTER to trigger my EX580EX on a tripod for off camera fill flash (when necessary).

Gary


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9/16/2005 3:11:22 PM

 
Michelle Ross
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  Thanks Gary .. . I have never been good at giving directions LOLOL . . . The client basically just said they want the tractor in the photo . . . and that they don't want to look like ants in it sooooo I don't think different options will be a problem with them . .. this "vision" of the NSEW thing was really MY vision maybe it's more of a nightmare LOL . . .

I don't think my camera has that transmitter thing but I think I can some how use a hot shoe adapter or something but it will have a cord. . .

Laura. . . I forgot to comment on the test shot . . . as far as the scenery I think it looks fine . . . it did seem a bit dark but I think you can compensate for that without too much trouble . . . take 3 if you have to with different settings . . .


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9/16/2005 3:19:35 PM

 
Michelle Ross
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  I forgot to mention .. . the reason I was saying use the whole tractor is because they had a relative take a picture of them in year's past but she indicated she wanted the tractor to show . .. and since we will be out in a dusty dirty field I just figured it was better to fill the frame with color rather than dirt and dull sky. ..


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9/16/2005 3:23:10 PM

 
Maverick Creatives
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  Michelle, here are some friends that have sugguested I remind you that when shooting in Kansas Black and White or Sepia are also Options. *smile*

Judy Garland .... Dorothy Gale
Frank Morgan .... Prof. Marvel/Emerald City doorman/The cabbie/The Wizard's guard/The Wizard of Oz
Ray Bolger .... Hunk/The Scarecrow
Bert Lahr .... Zeke/The Cowardly Lion
Jack Haley .... Hickory/The Tin Man
Billie Burke .... Glinda, the Good Witch of the North
Margaret Hamilton .... Miss Gulch/The Wicked Witch of the West/The Wicked Witch of the East
Charley Grapewin .... Uncle Henry
Pat Walshe .... Nikko (the Wicked Witch's head winged monkey)
Clara Blandick .... Auntie Em
Terry .... Toto (as Toto)


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9/16/2005 3:45:52 PM

 
Michelle Ross
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  Too Funny Gary . .. Did I tell you I was from Kansas or did you see it in my gallery?? (wink) Actually "Dorothy's House" is only 40 miles from me and every year in October I think they have some Oktoberfest thing and some years the munchkins have been here. . .

I do have a B/W collage in my gallery of my son in the JD tractor wheel . .. who needs green and yellow? hehe


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9/16/2005 3:52:56 PM

 
Maverick Creatives
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  LAURA;
The test shot.

Lose the fountain, it's competive and if I'm correct it isn't a fountain, it's part of an air conditioning system. Is there a large building nearby?

Lighten up the background or have your subject wear clothing of a lighter color, there is a lack of contrast in this photo.

tip. When I work with Amateur Models we spend time looking through Magazines for poses. Give your models a goal, get them involved, after all it's a group effort and requires participation of all involved. MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS HAVING FUN AND ENJOYING THEIR "15 minutes of fame".

Gary


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9/16/2005 3:59:15 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
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  Actually, it IS a fountain in a manmade lake in our development. The fountains are necessary for water circulation and are used for beautification of the community.

My nephew would only be so cooperative, and he actually smiled. Getting him in a white shirt is a WHOLE nother story! I've already told my client to wear lighter colors. This was taken at about 7:15pm. I had everything on as high and exposure as I could, including the fill flash. This is AFTER I lightened it in PS! What settings would you normally go with for outdoor shots. Obviously it depends on the amount of sun, but where is a good starting point?


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9/16/2005 4:23:45 PM

 
Maverick Creatives
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  For portrait shots I like ISO100 for detail. Using a 70-200 mm F4L canon lens I like f5.6 to f8 for test shots and correct from there.

I'd still lose the fountain Laura. The implied movement distracts from the subject. I realize you are trying to create a beautiful picture however portrait photography isn't the place (in my opinion). The point of your shoot is to capture an image of the client and I wouldn't make my client compete with other features in my photography.


Regards
Gary


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9/16/2005 4:39:29 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
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  Gotcha. I totally understand what you mean. I've already swayed his mom from being SO set on portraits by the fountains (she insisted, so I wanted to try to make it work). I came up with a bunch more exciting, yet simpler, ideas for him, and she loves them all so far!

My Nikon only goes as low as ISO 200, and that's what I use for portraits. I also used mainly f5.6-8, so I seem to be on the right track, I just need a better location and/or light.

I should use my 70-300mm lens, then. Better DOF to blur the background, I assume? OK. ANYTHING ELSE!? It's getting to be crunch time! Thanks so much for everything so far!! I've scoped out my locations and tested some shots at the park on the lake this morning. I'm starting to get REALLY excited! His mom said that his girlfriend will probably come along to help him relax for the shoot and we'll probably do some shots of the two of them together.


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9/16/2005 4:53:22 PM

 
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9/16/2005 5:08:11 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
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  LOL! Ha Ha! I have no doubt! Beautiful shot, BTW!

I'm doing HIS Sr shots, and adding a few of them together. If she wants some shots, we're going to do another session for her. (that's the story right now, anyway!)


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9/16/2005 5:11:11 PM

 
Jeff Dadey
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  Laura, how did your Senior Portrait session turn out?


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9/21/2005 7:14:58 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Great! Thanks for asking! I meant to post this before, but I'm in Houston and we've been preparing and fleeing from the hurricane. Here's the url for the client proofs. Let me know what y'all think!

http://www.lifeimagesbylaura.com/-/lifeimagesbylaura/gallery.asp?cat=19029


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9/23/2005 4:11:18 PM

 
Maverick Creatives
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/1/2004
  *smile* way to go Laura ! Did you have fun and are you pleased with the results? I think you did a great job and certainly offered many choices.
My picks are #010 and #033

Regards
Gary


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9/23/2005 4:40:50 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  THANKS! I'm very pleased, although I definitely wish I did some things differently with lighting and posing, but overall, I'm happy, and more importantly, the client is THRILLED! His mom wants to buy a TON of prints and is even going to get him a full-page senior ad which accomodates 8-10 photos, rather than the quarter page they currently have which only allows for 3. She's spending another $200 on that alone, just because she loves the portraits and can't decide. She, and many others, have chosen #015 as a favorite, which I LOVE...PLUS she wants lots of prints for family and friends, AND his girlfriend wants photos of just her after homecoming, so we can do some with her dress, too. And they've ordered a couple of collages to be done... AND I may be getting work at the firehouse doing portraits and group shots!! YAY!!!! Thanks Gary, Jeff and everyone for all of your help, support and encouragement!


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9/24/2005 11:44:14 AM

 
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