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Wayne Redden
 

Print Film v. Digital


Why does it appear that Digital has become the format of choice? Does anyone have statistics showing the ratio of digital to film sold?


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8/4/2005 2:45:48 PM

 
Justin G.
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/13/2004
  Wayne,

OBVIOUSLY (lol) the ratio doesn't matter, film will always be better! yes digital has its advantages but I will never fully convert. There's just something about film that makes me really partial to my shots.

No really though, I don't know ratios I'm just trying to cause a big stir in here! Gotta love it.

.justin.


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8/4/2005 2:56:41 PM

 
Christopher A. Vedros
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/14/2005
  Wayne,
Looking at the marketplace, it seems pretty obvious that more new digital cameras are being sold than new film cameras.

But what does that really tell us? Not many film shooters feel the pressure to upgrade to a newer camera every year or two because their old one is blown away by the higher-resolution new models.

You can't really compare digital cameras sold to rolls of film sold.

A lot of film photographers will stick with film because that's what they like best. Hopefully, the market will stay strong enough that film manufacturers won't feel the need to cut back on the different types and speeds of film that they offer.


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8/4/2005 3:18:55 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  IT TELLS US THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE LIKE ME, WHO NEED INSTANT GRADIFICATION!!
BUT BELIEVE ME THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A MARKET FOR FILM.
WELL AT LEAST IN MY LIFE TIME,LOL.


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8/4/2005 3:23:20 PM

 
Bob Cammarata
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/17/2003
  "Why does it appear that Digital has become the format of choice?"

That would depend upon who's choosing. ;)


..."IT TELLS US THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE LIKE ME, WHO NEED INSTANT GRADIFICATION!!"

Gratification should come the instant the shutter is pressed,...knowing that one's knowledge of his or her equipment, and experience in dealing with light and composition will produce the expected results.


I think film and processing (AND scanning equipment), will hang around as long as the market for them necessitates it.
Digital is indeed growing in popularity, and is progressing in leaps and bounds toward its goal to exceed (or at least match) film's level of accuracy and enlargement capabilities.
How long will it take?...Only time will tell.

"WELL AT LEAST IN MY LIFE TIME,LOL"

....We can only hope.



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8/4/2005 4:00:25 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  UNFORTUNITLY ,
THOUGH NOT YET QUITE AS GOOD AS FILM IN MANY ASPECTS-
DIGITAL HAS HAD DRASTIC EFFECTS ON THE WORLD OF PROFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHY.
WHILE TEACHING FOR SOME OF
THOSE
"MAJOR CORPRATE PHOTOGRAPHY STUDIOS "
AND DIGITAL CAME OUT TO THE PUBLIC IN THOSE EASY TO USE, SEE IT NOT LITTLE CAMERAS- THE PUBLIC DID NOT SEE AND UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE QUALITY ,LONGEVITY OF FILM AND
THE IMMEDIATE VIEW CAPIBLITY-
THEY FELT- WE CAN SEE IT NOW- GET IT NOW- THATS THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.
AND IT HAS HAD IT'S EFFECTS ON THE CONSUMER MARKET.
COMPANIES LIKE "OLAN MILLS"SHOOTING AND PRINTING QUALITY PORTRAITS -HAD TO GO FASTER AND FASTER- UNTIL TO HOLD ON(AND I DO MEAN TO HOLD ON TO THE COMPANY AND KEEP IT A FLOAT) THEY HAVE REDUCED THEM SELVES TO LEAVING FILM AND GOING WITH THE CONSUMERS WANT
(I AGREE NOT REALLY NEED) FOR INSTANT GRADIFICATION.
SEARS , CPI,ETC. HAVE ALL FOLLOWED THIS DEMAND(OM BEING THE LAST , THAT I KNOW OF)
AND I HOPE I DON'T SEE FILM DISAPPER
IN MY LIFE TIME.


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8/4/2005 4:18:45 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  AND JUST A NOTE - I THINK THE REAL DESSION BETWEEN FILM AND DIGIAT IS WHAT WILL BE BEST FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING IF PHOTOGRAPHY IN YOUR MAIN SOURCE OF INCOME.
THE HOBBIEST - I HOPE WILL ALWAYS HAVE A FILM CAMERA- FOR THE ART OF IT ALONE.
BUT UNFORTUNITLY SOME VENUES CALL FOR QUICKER SERVICE.
I USED TO SAY I WOULD NEVER LEAVE FILM-TWO YEARS AGO, I HAD A TARGET MARKET THAT WAS HELPING TO BUILD OUR BUSINESS AND EVERYTHING HAD TO BE DONE ON SITE-
AND THERE YOU GO.


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8/4/2005 4:23:52 PM

 
Samuel Smith
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/21/2004
  boy this is a spelling nightmare,sorry debby I know you type fast.
again,this is not sam


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8/4/2005 5:04:37 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  LOL,LOL
SURE IS ISN'T IT.
OH WELL,
PLAYING ON BP AND
I HAVE 1 WEDDING AND
1 QUINCEANERA IN FRONT OF ME ,
THAT I AM EDIETING AS WE SPEAK.
AHHH, YOU ARE WONDERING WHO I CAN MAKE A MESS OF A SIMPLE WORD LIKE DIGITAL AND YET GET THAT ONE RIGHT,
AREN'T YOU SAMUEL?
WELL, I SHOULD KEEP YOU IN SUSPENSE....
BUT I WON'T I HAVE TO KEEP IT ON A PAD OF PAPER HERE IN FRONT OF ME,LOL
AND YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE.LOL


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8/4/2005 5:21:47 PM

 
Tom Walker   Thread I was reading the other nite states that HP, and some others are dropping profits fast, #1 reason, camera phones, #2 serious photographers returning to film. Look at ebay, old film cameras are increasing in price daily.


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8/4/2005 8:46:48 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  NO DOUBT TOM,
I DO WATCH EBAY ALL THE TIME AND I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO PICK UP A CANON AE1 FOR SOME TIME NOW-BUT THEY ARE ALWAYS A FIGHT.
STILL QUITE A DEMAND FOR THAT STURDY LITTLE CAMERA


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8/4/2005 8:58:32 PM

 
Samuel Smith
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/21/2004
  no debby,there is no second e in editing?
boy am I going to hear about this.
sam


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8/4/2005 9:43:46 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  THANKS FOR WATCHIN' OVER ME.
I JUST CAN'T PROFESS TO BE A GREAT SPELLER WHEN I AM GOING TO FAST.
BUT IT'S NICE TO KNOW YOUR THERE.
:-)


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8/4/2005 10:02:17 PM

 
Diane Dupuis
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/27/2003
  Thought I'd give you a couple of sites to look over...
(Debby - did you know typing in all caps is like yelling?)

http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/filmdig.htm

http://www.tawbaware.com/film_digital.htm

http://www.ltlimagery.com/film_v_digital.html

http://194.100.88.243/petteri/pont/Pontification/e_Film_versus_digital/a_Film_vs_digital.pdf

http://www.naturephotographers.net/articles0105/dw0105-1.html

http://www.acdsystems.com/English/Community/ColumnsArticles/PhotoTips/photo-2001-02-07.htm

http://www.apogeephoto.com/july2003/tgrey72003.shtml

http://www.digitaldog.net/files/Filmvsdigital.pdf


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8/5/2005 6:08:35 AM

 
Kerry L. Walker   Debby types in all caps because of a vision problem. After I understood that, I just toned it down in my mind - what little there is of it.

I can't believe I'm saying this but there are applications where digital is the best way to go. For magazines, where speed and the ability to quickly send a file, digital has an advantage over film. The same goes for newspapers and fast breaking news. However, for my uses, film is my choice.

I have never been one for instant gratification. There are some things in life that are better when we take our time. I like to let my coffee brew!


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8/5/2005 6:24:04 AM

 
Samuel Smith
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/21/2004
  ditto on the yelling kerry.
debby,i couldn't even find that word in the dictionary'but I think I got your drift,i think I edited about 6 last nite?
cheers,sam


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8/5/2005 3:27:36 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  WHAT WORD SAM,
QUINCEANERA?
SHOOT I COULDN'T EITHER- AND THE PEOPLE THROWING THE PARTY ASKED ME HOW TO SPELL(SAM, DON'T YOU EVEN FALL OFF THAT CHAIR LAUGHING...)
I SAID I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU?
DROVE US ALL NUTS-TILL I TOLD GREG-HE GETS UP TYPES IN- HISPANIC GIRLS 15TH BIRTHDAY AND THERE YOU GO.
QUINCEANERA.


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8/5/2005 5:54:04 PM

 
Gregory LaGrange
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/11/2003
gregorylagrange.org
  Special tradition for Hispanic girls. Celebrate entering into womanhood.


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8/5/2005 8:39:54 PM

 
Kerry L. Walker   Well, now I know why I didn't know what it was. I'm not Hispanic; I'm not a girl; and I haven't seen 15 since Lincoln was president.


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8/5/2005 8:39:54 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  LOL,LOL
YOU NUT-WHAT ARE YOU DOING UP SO LATE?
YOU HAVE TO HAVE COFFEE WITH ME IN THE MORNING.LOL


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8/5/2005 9:17:05 PM

 
Samuel Smith
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/21/2004
  i thought it was some kind of wine,i was editing beer?


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8/6/2005 4:25:14 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  I have to agree with Debby on the instant gratification of digital . . .it's such a relief to be able to see what I am doing as I do it and for me it's a learning tool as well . . . I understand aperature and shutter speed fine but sometimes when I think I have the correct setting things are still a little off. . . being able to make the adjustments right there and think about WHY I made the adjustments and talk out loud, etc helps me learn and understand even more. Of course if I had grown up in the pre-auto everything camera stage things would probably be almost easier because then I would have HAD to learn it. . .I want to enjoy my hobby turned career and if I'm always having to make notes about aperature and fstops which may or may not be the same even photographing in the same place the next time I just get stressed and spend more time worrying about that then I do about shooting. . . I think though that there are alot of misconceptions that if you go digital you will automatically be a photographer. . . which simply is not true. . . many people however delve into the digital world simply to enjoy life through their pictures by capturing memories and I will say in that case digital may actually provide more of an interest for people to take pictures because they aren't spending money on film and processing only to find 2 or 3 shots that are good on a roll . . . there are times though that it's just nice to get out the film and shoot a roll send it in and live with what I have instead of having to resize, crop, upload, print, etc. I kind of liked the days that I sent the film and got prints. . .however. . . for my portrait work I would never feel comfortable shooting film and worrying the whole time if I exposed correctly, if the film will get lost, etc. The biggest advantage for me and digital is the speed in which I can deliver things to my customers. I took some family pics last Thursday and was able to deliver the proof CD to them on Friday(I'm a night owl). . . they are thrilled and even more so because of the speed of the work. Clients like instant gratification too :-) Okay it's late. .. we just hit a cow :-( and did lord knows how much damage to my pickup . . . and I need to get some sleep not to mention the fact that I'm basically just rambling!!


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8/6/2005 9:52:29 PM

 
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