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Lorraine Jones
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Bogen 3126 Micro Fluid Head


Hi. Has anyone tried using a Bogen 3126 micro fluid head on their tripod? I recently got one with my Bogen tripod and I was playing around with it thinking it could work for me, and then it hit me that I couldn't adjust my camera to a vertical position (at least I couldn't find a way to do it). Can I use this head on vertical position? Because if not, I'll have to exchange it. Can anyone suggest something that's easy to switch from horizontal to vertical?

Thanks much.


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2/2/2005 7:34:46 PM

 
Jon Close
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/18/2000
  The 3126 is intended for use with video cameras, where vertical orientation is never used. You want either a 3-way tilt-pan head or a ball head intended for still photography.


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2/3/2005 6:22:28 AM

 
Andy 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/28/2002
  Ena, if you do not intend to use the tripod for video camcoder, it's better to get a head designed for camera. I used the Bogen 3030 3-way pan head, which has the same weight as the 3126 but support more weight. It also has a quick release plate.

Although the 3030 head can tilt 90 degree sideway for vertical shot, I seldomly do that because as I mentioned in another thread, I mount my Stroboframe on the tripod and rotate the camera instead. Since I bought this tripod, I also bought the Junior Elbow Bracket (341). This elbow bracket can fit right on the 3030 quick release mechanism.

Now here's your options. You may return the 3126 head and get another one, or you can buy a quick release adaptor and an elbow bracket. I always recommend getting a quick release system if the head does not come with one and the elbow bracket if you do a lot of vertical shot anyway.

There are 5 adaptors for your head but I only recommend two. The 625, has 2 built in spirit levels and uses the hexagonal 3048 plate (the 3/8" screw, don't get the 3049 with 1/4-20" screw). You can also get the Elbow Bracket 3288 that fit right onto it. The second one, 3299, uses the rectangle 3157AN or 3157ANR plates (the 3/8" screw, don't get the 3157N or 3157NR). You can also get the Junior Elbow Bracket 341 that fit right onto it. The other 3 adapters has weird shape of plates and no elbow bracket will fit onto them.

I know it's a lot of information. It just happens I use the same brand of tripod and I have done a lot of reading to make sure everything works together. Hope this helps.


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2/3/2005 7:27:50 AM

 
Lorraine Jones
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/10/2004
  Thanks, Jon. When I was researching on this tripod/head combo I never read anything that says the 3126 was for video only. oh well...

As always, Andy, you came through for me. Thanks so much for the recommendations. I know...while I was reading your response, I was like, huh? All the specs you mentioned...very confusing to me.. but I will look into it. I guess I am not done shopping for tripods! Gosh! Never ending... Thanks again to you both!


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2/3/2005 7:47:48 AM

 
Andy 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/28/2002
  Ena, I am sorry I confused you more. Here's the site of Bogen/Manfrotto:

http://www.bogenimaging.us/

This site has all the plates and elbow brackets information under "Ttripod Accessories" and "Quick Release Systems". Also, depending on your camera, you may need the 1/4"-20 screw, not the 3/8". If you have any more question, just let us know.


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2/3/2005 8:49:44 AM

 
Lorraine Jones
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/10/2004
  Thanks again, Andy. I am returning my system and getting another one with the correct head on it!


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2/3/2005 8:55:22 AM

 
Lorraine Jones
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/10/2004
  Hi, Andy, it's me again, Ena. I need help (again) in determining what tripod I should get with the 3030 3-way head. I was going to order the 3001BN but the guy at B&H said that would only be 4.5 feet in height (w/o the center column extended) which would be too short for me (I am 5'2"). May I ask what tripod you have with your 3030 head? I am willing to pay $160 for my system. I know some tripods can go as high as $300--I don't want to spend that much. Thanks so much again.
-Ena-


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2/7/2005 1:47:46 PM

 
Andy 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/28/2002
  Ena, I have a 3444 ($400 at B&H) with the 3030 head. It's max. height is 50.4" and 64.6" with center column fully extended. So far I have use it for indoor only because it is almost 6 pounds with the head. For outdoor, I use the 719B (discontinued; replaced by the 724B - $100 at B&H) because it has a ball head and weights only 3 pounds. You may want to look at the 728B Digi Series. It is almost exactly the same as the 724B except it comes with a 3-way pan head and just a little bit heavier and $13 more. Good luck in choosing your tripod.


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2/7/2005 8:31:52 PM

 
Lorraine Jones
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/10/2004
  Thanks, Andy. I will look into the 728B Digi Series.


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2/8/2005 6:59:55 AM

 
Lorraine Jones
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/10/2004
 
 
  Bogen 3030 Pan/Tilt Head
Bogen 3030 Pan/Tilt Head
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Hi, Andy. I need your help again. I got my tripod today with the 3030 head. I assembled everything but when I put my Digital Rebel on it and tried vertical position, my camera was facing downward! Did I do something wrong? The instruction booklet that came with it didn't really explain vertical positioning and I just don't see how I could tilt it vertically so that my camera can be in a shooting position. I uploaded some photos so you can see. Thanks again.


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2/11/2005 9:36:17 PM

 
Lorraine Jones
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/10/2004
  Hi, Andy. So very sorry...I figured out how to mount my camera so I could tilt it vertically, but I don't like the way how when you turn the head counter-clockwise the screw would loosen up, so I'm having to remind myself everytime to turn it clockwise which is very awkward for me. I'm thinking of getting a separate ballhead for my tripod legs as some people say you are not limited in anyway with this kind of head but I am concerned whether a ballhead would be stable enough to hold my Digital Rebel with my 70-200mm L lens on it. What do you think?

Thanks!


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2/12/2005 10:04:54 AM

 
Andy 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/28/2002
  Ena, the 3030 is a great head. For the ball head that can support your gear, you need the 484 or above. You will have the same problem, be it 3 way pan or ball head, when tilting the head for taking vertical shots. The camera is hanging on the side. If the gear is heavy, the whole gear may slip and point downward. However I think the 3030 head would not have this problem with your gear.

The ball head is fast to lock up and use less space. But the 3 way pan is easier to level and give me more precise control. I think both has its advantage and disadvantage. Personally I think you will appreciate the 3030 more. Or you can invest in a ball head and you have the best of both world.

Anyway, go back to the vertical shot problem. You mentioned the 'screw' would loosen up when you turn the head. I am not sure which 'screw' you refer to. Is it the screw from the release plate that you screw on the bottom of your camera. If so, there are ways to solve it without tilting the head to the side.

1. I don't know what version of the 70-200 L lens. The f2.8s came with the tripod collar. You can just mount the lens with the tripod collar and rotate the camera. No need to tilt the head. If yours is the f4 version, there is an option to get a tripod collar for that lens.

2. If you do tilt the head and you are afraid that the gear may move and point downward, you can replace the plate that came with the head by the 3157NR RAPID CONNECT ARCHITECTUAL RECTANGULAR PLATE (1/4"-20 SCREW). It provides proper camera alignment for 90 vertical architectural shots with 35mm cameras.

3. Get a 341 Junior Elbow Bracket that fits right on your 3030 head.

4. Use a flash bracket that can be mounted on a tripod. My Strboframe Camera Flip can be mounted on the tripod and I use it before I got the Junior Elbow Bracket.

Hope this helps.


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2/12/2005 9:39:56 PM

 
Lorraine Jones
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/10/2004
  Hi, Andy. Thanks for all the great suggestions. The screw I was talking about was the screw on top of the legs where you screw the head in, but it seems to be holding, I noticed, so I decided to keep my 3030.

I have the f/4 version and I did get a collar for it, so no problem there. It's just for my other lenses. I will get the Stroboframe Camera Flip eventually and will also get the Rapid Connect Architectural Plate and will consider an elbow bracket.

Thanks again for ALL your help. I am so glad someone out there is very knowlegeable in this subject. You helped me tremendously.
-Ena-


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2/13/2005 10:19:03 AM

 
Andy 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/28/2002
  Ena, now I see which screw you are talking about. Your 3030 head should come with 3 tiny screws. The head screw on the plate of the center column. The 3 tiny screws should screw from the bottom of the center column plate to secure the head. Those are the screws that hold the head in place. It should mention in the instruction manual.


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2/13/2005 3:16:06 PM

 
Lorraine Jones
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/10/2004
  Hi, Andy. This is taken care of.. thanks!

I decided to order the elbow bracket and the Rapid Connect Architectural Plate for now and maybe get the flash bracket later. Can't wait to get them--I should get them Thursday! Thanks again.


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2/14/2005 9:29:39 AM

 
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