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Imrahil Dol Amroth
 

Shutter Speed for Telephoto


I recently purchased a Tamron 70-300mm zoom lens. The camera I have is a Canon EOS Rebel Ti. When I hold down the shutter half way in AF mode, the camera selects the appropriate shutter speed and aperture for the conditions.When I tried focusing on an object using the 300mm in a given circumstance it put the shutter as a 90th of a second. Wouldn't this create blurry photos? Is there not a rule that states that the shutter speed should be equal to the lens length. ie. 1/300th of a second for 300mm? Any help appreciated.

Nathan


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July 12, 2004

 

Steven Chaitoff
  Hey Nathan, I'm not positive but I've got a good guess.

I have the Rebel 2000 which is similar, & when you shoot automatic with the flash, the shutter speed is auto set to 1/90. Were you using flash? Also, if you were shooting totally automatic (the little green square on the dial,) & if it was low lighting, the flash will pop up automatically so that may have been your case.

90 is, indeed, slow for your shutter and if your shooting anything like moving cars or something, it wouldn't be acceptible, especially telephoto. However, I am assuming the camera chose 1/90th because that is the flash sync speed. Again, I'm assuming you were using flash. If you were to use the flash and then shoot at 1/300th like that rule you mentioned says, the shutter wouldn't make it up in time for the flash to fire, so only the part of the film would be exposed.

Hope that helps...
-Steven
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July 12, 2004

 

John A. Lind
  Nathan,
It's not a "rule" so much as it's an heuristic (rule of thumb). You can get away with slower shutter speeds hand held if you take greater care with your stance, how you hold the camera, control your breathing, etc. I've use an 85mm at 1/30th second successfully . . . shooting bands in dimly lit small clubs . . . and everything is in motion; the band member I'm concentrating on and me (sometimes nearly crawling on the floor).

Welcome to "program mode" auto-exposure systems. Likely the camera doesn't know what focal length you're using when selecting the aperture/shutter combination . . . or it could be that the lens was opened up as far as possible and the only thing left to get enough light was a slower shutter speed.

In these situations when keeping a shutter speed relatively high is important, switch it to aperture priority auto exposure and move the lens aperture manually to move shutter speed around to where you want it.

-- John Lind


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July 12, 2004

 

John A. Lind
  Steven is exactly correct if you're using flash . . . your camera needs to use 1/90th, its X-sync (or slower).

When you're using flash, the shutter needs to be fully open across the entire film plane when it fires and the fastest shutter speed at which it's fully open is the X-sync speed. In addition (with flash) your exposure is controlled by much more by lens aperture than by shutter speed . . . the "effective" shutter speed being pretty much the flash duration which (with electronic flashes) is quite short . . . shorter than 1/300th.

My reference to 1/30th with an 85mm was without flash using only available light in the club.

-- John Lind


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July 12, 2004

 

Steven Chaitoff
  Hey Nathan...it looks like we've pinpointed the problem! But think about this to get a good grip on what's going on...

Say your in a pitch black room...I'm talkin 0 light at all. Now say people are movin around everywhere in there...you can't see them though but you want to get a picture.

Say you set your shutter speed to 3 seconds and DON'T use a flash. Now your picture will be black, obviously (no light.)

Now say you set your shutter speed to 3 seconds and DO you flash, & also say your flash illuminates the scene for oh...1/1,000th of a second. Now you picture will be nice and brightly lit and crispy and sharp, even though your shutter speed was very very long.

This is because, really you have taken a 1/1000th exposure; the other 2 and 999/1000ths of a second didn't register at all because there was no other light when the flash was off.

So in this totally exaggerated situation, ONLY the APERTURE controls light intake. That's why you can work in slower speeds. Now, obviously you aren't always using a flash in the pitch dark. There will be ambient light to expose the scene (& register motion) during the time the shutter is open, which is why you need a relatively fast shutter.

But really, the bulk of the light from the exposure comes from that one instant the flash fires, so the shutter speed is unimportant (as long as it's slow enough to incorporate the flash [X-sync].) That's what John is saying when he mentioned "your exposure is controlled by much more by lens aperture than by shutter speed."

That's all...
-Steven


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July 12, 2004

 

Imrahil Dol Amroth
  Thanks guys, that helps alot!

Nathan.


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