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Christopher J. Mcgilvery
 

Noise Reduction Programs


What is people's View On Noise Reduction programs?

Do they allow you to obtain the crystal clear shots?

I have taken a photo of this Bird in the sky. And when I cut the photo down and get closer th distortion is really not there and it is clear.

Just the background blue part is a fraction sketchy, like it's pixels are abit differentiated.

Just really wanted to no would program like Noise Ninja or Neat Image fix this.

Or is there photoshop action that allows u to fix this.

First time asking a question.


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June 28, 2004

 

John Wright
  Really unknown...

I will say this - try it...
Both Ninja and Neat have free demos of their software. I haven't tried Ninja yet (I understand that many people prefer it over Neat), but I have used Neat Image many times with much success. I'd also say to be careful at how much clean up you do. I know from experience that you can over "neat" and image and can easily get halos around your photo...


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June 28, 2004

 

Wing Wong
  Hi!

I'v personally used NeatImage(demo and bought version) and it works quite well. (A friend of mine doesn't print without first using it to get rid of background noise now)

There are photoshop actions to handle noise. Check out fred and miranda's photoshop site. Lot's of cool actions and plugins.

Do you have a copy of the image up somewhere?

As John noted, too much noise reduction can affect the look of the image, rendering it "plastic" looking. So take care. :)

The sky tends to have more of that "blue" light which digital sensors tend to pick up noise on. If you have Photoshop and can edit channels, you can perform a 1px guassian blur on the blue channel to smooth out the blue signal noise. If you need to do more smoothing, you will want to mask off the section of the sky with a feathered border to ensure the rest of the picture doesn't suffer.

Good luck and feel free to email me.

Wing


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June 29, 2004

 

Peter K. Burian
  I have found Neat Image to be very effective but it's much too complicated.

NoiseNinja (www.picturecode.com) is much more intuitive, especially the new 2.0 version. It is still in beta format but already works very well. A more advanced beta version will be available in a couple of weeks. (30 day free trial is available.)

Nik Dfine is great too but expensive.

Cheers! Peter Burian


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June 30, 2004

 

Wing Wong
  Peter,

Have you tried the new NeatImage 4.2x? Its interface has been greatly simplified and starts up in basic mode where the program can auto-tune and select a profile for your picture. I agree, NeatImage 2.6 and 3.x were a bit technical to use, but with 4.2x, it is much easier. You still have the advanced mode to tweak.

I've tried Nik Dfine's noise remover and found it to be powerful in terms of options, but found the interface to be a bit restrictive and unintuitive. The delay between selecting an option and seeing it in one of the preview windows sometimes led me to believe the program had frozen up on me.

The results from the software is great, but you need a good processor to make it run responsively. Then again, I tested the 1.x demo, so maybe the 2.0 has made improvements there. ^_^ (Yeah, pricey...)

Wing.


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June 30, 2004

 

Peter K. Burian
  Wing: No, I must admit I have not tried the latest version of Neat Image.

I find NoiseNinja 2.0 (beta sample so far) very intuitive to use, but it also has advanced features, and is highly effective. At $29 US, it's also a bargain. The final version should be even better and will include a lot more features.

Cheers! Peter Burian


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June 30, 2004

 

Michael Kaplan
  Noise reduction programs can make a good picture much better. I take photos of a production for a charity event every year that consists of a musical play and song & dance cabaret. TO be able to 'stop' the action of the dancers and singers that are consistently moving without using flash I use either my 50mm f1.8 or my 70-200 F2.8L IS lenses and shoot ISO800. Even with my 10D, the noise is better than on previous cameras but is still there. I clean my pictures with Neatimage and it makes a dramatic improvement over not cleaning them.

You can see them in my pbase site below under The Becket Players from either this year or last.
Michael Kaplan
Canon EOS-10D
http://www.pbase.com/mkaplan


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